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Title: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Senar Gitar on August 20, 2019, 10:17:24 AM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Metall303 on August 20, 2019, 11:20:07 AM
very often I saw that someone put a red flag for a project on this forum but in fact, the project worked and developed. you need to conduct your own investigation before participating or not participating


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: coaprotet on August 20, 2019, 11:46:49 AM
It does not mean a lot of some account on this forum is marked with red, because sometimes they are getting marked for nothing. It is much more productive to get deeper into any project, to check the development level, to speak to admins in telegram and to decide on your own.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Jating on August 20, 2019, 11:52:01 AM
Because they don't look or study the project that they are joining. The moment they found a new bounty campaign, they quickly jump in and swarm and register. And they are the first one to bitch around when the project suddenly disappear or didn't meant the soft cap or simply a scam project.

That's why it is really very important to really look and DYOR before joining a project. Because you will never know that you are working you ass off around this community or other social media sites promoting a scam project.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: toydoll on August 20, 2019, 12:19:25 PM
strange question,of course I have no desire to waste my time and energy on a fraud project(if proven that it is really a Scam).Perhaps those who participate in such projects just get paid for their work and advertising the project or do not really follow the news


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Khuongcute2503 on August 20, 2019, 12:32:46 PM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!
It's hard to check for a scam project. They only have to do a series to avoid missing out on good opportunities. I think that's how the bounty hunter takes the most effort to do.

Do you think so?


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: coin-investor on August 20, 2019, 12:36:11 PM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!

I'll also get surprised if bounty hunters will continue to promote fraud projects, nobody in his right mind will invest in fraud projects, they are promoting it because they have no idea or do not know that they are promoting a scam project.

But it's promoting at your own risk, bounty hunters should always check the scam sections if they have a report on that section, always do due diligence, always check if the announcement thread is moderated, a transparent project should not have a moderated thread, investors and bounty hunters should question it.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Oyarebu on August 20, 2019, 12:49:21 PM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!
It's hard to check for a scam project. They only have to do a series to avoid missing out on good opportunities. I think that's how the bounty hunter takes the most effort to do.

Do you think so?
I don't think so, there are series of sample or samples that can guild anyone on how to choose a good project and also on how to know a scam project around the world of cryptocurrency, so, it shouldn't be a thing so hard like you said. Note also, going through their white paper and their roadmap can also help. Most at time we are too lazy to read between lines on these project whitepaper, seriously.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: freedomgo on August 20, 2019, 12:50:46 PM
It's their decision, they are in charge of their accounts and they are matured enough to understand what they are doing and I believe no bounty hunter would want to waste his time by doing the job and get's nothing in return.

The fact that they continue to promote, that means they believe that the rating is not accurate or maybe some are not aware of the trust rating here in the forum, or some are just blinded by the good promise of reward but there's only few here with negative trust rating that succeeded in their project because they have more smart investors who investigate the substance of the rating than just conclude right away based on what is written in the rating.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Korkorjkk on August 20, 2019, 01:48:02 PM
The moment I realize a bounty is a scam, I will stop promoting it because I might get a red trust. And the time I waste in that project, I can get payment from a legit bounty.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: betty11 on August 20, 2019, 02:05:11 PM
I learn to avoid any flagged project, even though they may have good intention, but market sentiment may just press down the growth fund rising. Even projects without any tags are still struggling, so negative flagged projects won't be very good to promote, save the team has enough fund to start the project and get it going until it gains trust.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: danherbias07 on August 20, 2019, 02:07:34 PM
Good thing you saw through it.
That is what they dont do. Look at the motive of the company and also its features and management.
They just simply join every bounty that will pop out there at bounties section of altcoin.

Most of them do facebook and twitter campaigns.
Well they will be the ones getting exhausted and not us.
About thw red trust though, they can be tagged too if proven they are supporting a scammer.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: masterrex on August 20, 2019, 02:26:07 PM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!
No offense buddy, but most of bitcointalk users who promoted those shady projects are mostly newbies! let me clear this im nothing againts with newbies. but this is what ive seen. in the name of fairness some higher ranks are also promoted shady projects without noticing it. even me was also experiencing this before, thats why today im not just promote easily without a deeper analysis about the project.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: key4co.in on August 20, 2019, 02:33:41 PM
I always advise bounty hunters to spend quality time doing research about projects before participating in any form of promotions to avoid wasted effort. The fact that a project got a red trust here on bitcointalk gives more reasons why proper due diligence should be done before participating. I've seen some comments here saying otherwise, I'm not saying the red trust means the project is 100% incompetent but it should serve as caution signal.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: cabron on August 20, 2019, 02:46:09 PM
No one of course wants to work for nothing. Most of those bounty hunters who keeps retweeting and reposting facebook posts are not reading the replies in the ANN threads here in the forum. Those bounty hunters probably even just use the automation system so they keep promoting projects that its developer were marked scammers by the scam busters. Sometimes its hard to tell who are scams though. Some projects appear to be legit but next morning its already scam.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: WalkerIVIV on August 20, 2019, 02:55:03 PM
It does not mean a lot of some account on this forum is marked with red, because sometimes they are getting marked for nothing. It is much more productive to get deeper into any project, to check the development level, to speak to admins in telegram and to decide on your own.
did you think those members who are giving negative trust is not providing evidence? it looks like you must watch it even more dude, any scam accusation that will result in the negative rating should be provided reliable evidence that can be trusted. It's true we must understand a platform deeper but when someone was providing strong evidence if that can be considered as an indication if such project is a scam and why we must still to get deeper into that scam project?


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: pamsugas on August 20, 2019, 02:59:39 PM
certainly not. many bounty hunters misjudged the project they were participating in so they wasted no work for months. be careful to choose the bounty, enter into the merivie carefully before following the bounty.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: rdluffy on August 20, 2019, 03:05:58 PM
No way, I'm wearing a campaign for a project that have their rules and the administrator is awesome
I see a lot of projects that people have no idea what they are promoting, or if will pay correctly

It's up to you to choose if worths your time or not, if nobody enters on a campaign, the administrator will have to make more efforts to make a good project to people help promote


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: xvids on August 20, 2019, 03:07:35 PM
Of course not who would want to waste their time on a scam project?
They would just waste their time and effort for nothing unless they would be paid in BTC,ETH or Fiat like bounty manager or being on the team.
But for me it is not worth it, It would just ruined your reputation.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Xphenosis on August 20, 2019, 03:08:41 PM
If you found out a user that spending time with it, probably that's noob just caring for the reward they'll get but at the end it's just a wasted effort.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Little_king on August 20, 2019, 03:10:38 PM
Many project are tagged scam but end up be a good one while some believe some project are super but end up be the scam one , so which ever way just be focus and believe in your and do the little you can to be as successful in your little way.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: d_fitrie on August 20, 2019, 03:15:50 PM
They do not have the expertise to analyse the reputation of the project so they fall into the scam project, at least reading the information on the scam association thread. It's better before spending time working on a scammer


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: magnum cyber on August 20, 2019, 03:16:22 PM
of course not, I won't waste my time on fraud projects. if you join a prize campaign make sure you take the time before joining in and also make sure that the project you want to participate in has a transparent team and also the products they offer are real.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: kaya11 on August 20, 2019, 03:19:31 PM
very often I saw that someone put a red flag for a project on this forum but in fact, the project worked and developed. you need to conduct your own investigation before participating or not participating
Can you site examples of those projects that were really successful with the bounty manger who have red tags within the period of campaign? I guess nobody wants to join even the investors if the promoters are red-tag members, so it is either they have been red tag after those projects was launched long ago and later on those managers were doing bad things and included in wrong activities such as scam that is why they have been tagged.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: mirgo1791 on August 20, 2019, 03:22:15 PM
different use on customs as investors to work on tasks with evaluation and gains with confirmation as preparing use with funds to put on smart contracts as purchasing token with the initial offers on market with the ico scheme.





Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Saisher on August 20, 2019, 03:35:44 PM
No one will say that he wants to promote fraud projects, only those part of the team will promote the project, if you see someone promoting a fraud project and people already warn him that the project is a fraud, yet he continues to work on the project,  we're going to think that the bounty is part of the team or he gets paid by a tradeable coin to promote their project.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Freescan on August 20, 2019, 05:06:46 PM
it applies to beginners who like to take part in social media campaigns, most of them don't care about that. what they see is that they must take part in every project that has just emerged. and not much different as you collect a lot of altcoin and some of your investments have a good development and vice versa.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Kezacky on August 20, 2019, 05:25:48 PM
everyone doesn't want to spend their time just promoting fraudulent projects, I guess most forum users here are more thorough before they participate in the bounty project. my advice if you find a project like that you better skip and look for a better project again and most importantly you must take the time for it and do not rush to join the bounty project.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: JeotQ on August 20, 2019, 06:29:34 PM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!

In time they will learn,warning them wont change a thing because people like learning the hard way,many new bounty hunters are too lazy to do research on projects but once they start realizing that the projects they promoted are shit projects they will start learning


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Hans Groober on August 20, 2019, 08:25:08 PM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!

Some bounty hunters are people who don't give a damn about a good project or not, whether they are scammers or not. They choose bounty campaigns using ratings from various sites, as well as well-known bounty managers. This, in many cases, is a mistake in my opinion.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: tycsols on August 20, 2019, 08:30:33 PM
Sometimes the decision is very hard, i have seen projects full of scam accusations but they are still up and developing amd working on their projects with their coins trading while some good looking projects are nowhere to be found because of slow or no development or low funds or other reasons, exchanges also take no time delisting such coins that causes 0anic and more dumps. So in the end luck matters the most and you never know you will get scammed or get some massive reward.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Mila52 on August 20, 2019, 08:46:37 PM
very often I saw that someone put a red flag for a project on this forum but in fact, the project worked and developed. you need to conduct your own investigation before participating or not participating
Can you site examples of those projects that were really successful with the bounty manger who have red tags within the period of campaign? I guess nobody wants to join even the investors if the promoters are red-tag members, so it is either they have been red tag after those projects was launched long ago and later on those managers were doing bad things and included in wrong activities such as scam that is why they have been tagged.
I met successful projects by managers with a red trust on BTT. Even a qualitative analysis of the project doesn't guarantee you from scam. Therefore, hunters cannot be blamed for the fact that sometimes they advertise scam's projects in social networks.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: spydee1522 on August 20, 2019, 09:58:42 PM
Team having a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it is a sign that each and every individual is entitled to what seem best for them to spend their time with. Doing your very own research on the project at hand is what really matters because there have been projects with red trust from the team which made it out there big time. Though it is unwise to spend time on fraud projects, it is necessary you read and find out if truly the project is a fraud before you quit wasting your time on.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Cemploon on August 20, 2019, 11:29:23 PM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!

It would be better if you mention a project that you consider a scam. So we who read also can do the checking.
I also don't want to spend time just for fraudulent projects. They will only make our emotions and lose a lot of time.
But if the manager gets Red Trust, of course, we also have to be more careful.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Viscore on August 20, 2019, 11:44:54 PM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!

It would be better if you mention a project that you consider a scam. So we who read also can do the checking.
I also don't want to spend time just for fraudulent projects. They will only make our emotions and lose a lot of time.
But if the manager gets Red Trust, of course, we also have to be more careful.
No one here would really want to work on fraud projects but if you don't know from the start that you are working with it because you never study it first before joining the campaign, then it would be a wasting time for you making all your efforts useless. I suggest to DYOR first before making any decisions so that we will not regret in the end because our efforts never paid off.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: slashz9 on August 20, 2019, 11:59:05 PM
well, if you say that nobody want to spend their time to do fraud project, or not get pay after do job in that project.
because we dont not which the real and fake, so people will learn from their mistake, and can avoid bad project in the future.
but if you do to many research, you will do nothing, and you always think is this project good? or am i will get paid?
so it will make you hesitate, stop doing to much research.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: jozymens7 on August 21, 2019, 12:25:27 AM
Bounty hunters do not actually want to stay in a project that has a bad fate but the fact it that no one knows the fate of any of the projects that are listed on this forum so we have to to keep trying our hands on any of them until we one day, meet the best we ever wanted to participate in.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: glendall on August 21, 2019, 12:54:27 AM
you know, but that doesn't mean others know, many bounty hunters who prefer gambling in choosing projects,
even though it looks ugly, they still dare to do it and still hope that one day the project can be big.
just wait they are tired or conscious, they will definitely stop and will not follow the gray project (unclear and looks scam).


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: smyslov on August 21, 2019, 01:47:05 AM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!

One example that we can give is Adab solutions, it was marked as a fraud and scam projects by Jollygood and other bounty hunters, but they still managed to launch two bounty campaign and a lot of bounty hunters have promoted this project, even though, there are scam warnings and the developer and bounty manager, which is one of the team has red trust.
Maybe bounty managers have a different way to look on the project.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: mitchr4 on August 21, 2019, 02:04:54 AM
you know, but that doesn't mean others know, many bounty hunters who prefer gambling in choosing projects,
even though it looks ugly, they still dare to do it and still hope that one day the project can be big.
just wait they are tired or conscious, they will definitely stop and will not follow the gray project (unclear and looks scam).
Already know it's a project that will fail but still dare to join in. Of course, it's a wrong decision to waste time on a gray project that doesn't even promise success. Here you can still get a better project than the gray project, try to research. Don't waste your valuable time remember that time is money.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: dzhan on August 21, 2019, 02:10:52 AM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!

There are so many newbies joining the forum everyday just for bounty hunting, they don't bother taking a small look into the project itself, its potential or reputation, they just do daily tasks especially for social media bounties, even for the expired bounties. They are really wasting their time and effort.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: Free1bitco.in on August 21, 2019, 02:22:45 AM
of course no one wants to spend their time supporting a scam project. it's just that, some of us are still learning about this problem, and not doing deeper research on the project, and it's quality.

They will feel the impact when not paid for their work. it will make them learn to identify a project before supporting it. however, many of them will judge that many project scams, or the like when they have been disappointed.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: michellee on August 21, 2019, 03:42:54 AM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!

I don't think bounty hunters will want to stay in the scam project because they cannot earn money. They don't know if the project is a scam in the end because no one will know about that and if they know, I am sure that they will avoid it and search the other projects. We don't know if the project can succeed or not in the future, the team still try to convince the investor and the bounty hunters to stay with their project. But for the scam project, they will run with the money, and they will not stay for a long time to trick people because they will have a reason to hide what they want.


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: MbakNarti on August 21, 2019, 05:07:06 AM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!

Because they are a noob and easy to be fooled by the team behind the fraud project
Only the true bounty hunter that never spend their time on the fraud project...

There are so many good telegram channel to find good bounty, like:
https://t.me/BountySheet
https://t.me/bountyairdropotaku

I have subscribed all of them 


Title: Re: Are you willing to spend your time just for fraud projects?
Post by: freedomgo on August 21, 2019, 05:46:00 AM
I was quite surprised by the bounty hunters, why they were willing to spend their time on fraud projects.
I observe a project that clearly has a bad reputation or warning (SCAM) in their gifts and also the team has a red trust, but many still believe and even take part in it?
Isn't it clear that their project is not good?
Are you willing to spend time just for fraud projects?
I do not!

Because they are a noob and easy to be fooled by the team behind the fraud project
Only the true bounty hunter that never spend their time on the fraud project...

There are so many good telegram channel to find good bounty, like:
https://t.me/BountySheet
https://t.me/bountyairdropotaku

I have subscribed all of them 

I'm gonna check this, I wasn't aware that there's some platform like this, I normally just try to search at the bounty section in the forum but it's hard to find a good bounty that would give a decent reward. Hopefully this will be a big help for the bounty hunter like me.