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Title: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: bitmover on August 22, 2019, 01:39:30 PM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

Quote
Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: eternalgloom on August 22, 2019, 01:52:18 PM
What? I had no idea that gambling was completely illegal in Poland.
I agree though, it's completely stupid to ban gambling, it's a huge source of income for the government that they're missing out on.

Like you said, people are going to gamble anyway, so why not get some taxes from it at least...


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: cabalism13 on August 22, 2019, 02:06:40 PM
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Here in the Philippines they wouldn't ban those things, necessarily because the government is corrupt and they gain so much money on these casinos, they only see gambling as illegal if they don't seem to get tax on it just like JUETENG,... and other online casinos that isn't registered by SEC,... Within those said countries I don't know what's their reason but knowing from JAPAN, they have MAFIAs running gambling games so I'm really in shock that they're on the list.

Countries that bans gambling seems to think that they're good on handling their rules but they really didn't know that in specific places their are countless of them lurking in the shadows. Even if they continue banning those things it wouldn't be gone, especially for those who're in the government position (they're the most likely gamblers in the environment).

P.S You have a good trivia there, haven't known that since you started this topic.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: squatz1 on August 22, 2019, 02:44:54 PM
This information just isn't true.

Poland had casinos that are charted by the government to operate, so gambling isn't completetly banned in Poland. The islamic countries on this list are obviously going to ban gambling, as it doesn't fit in with their religion and isn't allowed to be played -- so that should be a given.

To japan now: Only certain types of gambling are banned, check out this quote from the WSJ:

Gambling is illegal in Japan, but the government has made exceptions for sports betting including horse, bicycle, motorcycle and motorboat racing, as well as some lotteries.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on August 22, 2019, 02:46:54 PM
Gambling can be a tool used for money laundering I guess so some governments aren’t fond of it. Also some people get bad addictions & it impacts on their ability to pay bills which I guess can fuck up the economy if enough people are that dumb.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: carter34 on August 22, 2019, 03:03:25 PM
I didn't see Africa there in the above list. Does that mean that people in Africa are free to gamble their money any how that they want.

But in real time discuss, government is suppose to generate income from levying some amount on gambling site.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Saisher on August 22, 2019, 03:06:31 PM
Some of the countries banning gambling are mostly Muslim countries, it's understandable because it prohibits them although there are some Muslim regions  that allow them, North Korea is very obvious because people there are so poor that they do not have the means to gamble and they control everything, Gambling cannot be prevented by liberal and democratic countries, but countries that has full control of their citizen can impose that


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: squatz1 on August 22, 2019, 03:07:46 PM
I didn't see Africa there in the above list. Does that mean that people in Africa are free to gamble their money any how that they want.

But in real time discuss, government is suppose to generate income from levying some amount on gambling site.

Common misconception buddy, Africa is a continent and not a country.

But onto the countries of Africa, I would assume that the Northern portion of Africa -- where most of the Muslim majority nations live, there's going to be no gambling. Yet again, this is due to the fact that Muslims can't engage in gambling.

The rest of the nations, towards the middle and lower half I would assume have theijr fair share of nations that restrict certain types of gambling, and others that don't restrict it at all. Though most of these nations are going to have one thing in common, they're most likely HEAVILY taxing all of the casinos and gambling establishments to make large amounts of money.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: tsaroz on August 22, 2019, 03:21:48 PM
Gambling exist everywhere. There are a few countries which have officially declared gambling illegal inside them but that mostly doesn't include the traditional form of gambling and they don't care about online anonymous gambling. Even the so called hypocritic muslim countries can't always ban their citizens for gambling. Many such country considers gambling along with lending as well as music as evil. But I know most of it's is not true at present context.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: leowonderful on August 22, 2019, 03:26:43 PM
There's tons of countries where gambling's extremely heavily regulated as well (one example being the U.S), especially online gambling, and I've found that a ton of crypto gambling sites don't even let me login or register accounts from an IP that's located in one of these countries. The good news is that this can be bypassed by simply using a VPN outside of these jurisdictions, but it sucks that even some crypto casinos filter out these countries.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: XCANA on August 22, 2019, 03:29:49 PM
I didn't see Africa there in the above list. Does that mean that people in Africa are free to gamble their money any how that they want.

But in real time discuss, government is suppose to generate income from levying some amount on gambling site.
You could have mentioned your country and I can help if your country is  also among the Africa countries that prohibited gambling. Like my own country here; we are free to gamble which to me is neither pronounced legal or illegal here, but the beauty of this is: gamble until you are satisfy, and don't roar while you run at lost.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on August 22, 2019, 03:38:48 PM
The world's oldest past-time, as old as the oldest profession prostitution.  ;D

I would rather err on the side of regulation. Completely banning it would just put the industry in the hands of crime families. The government simply saying they won't allow it won't make people stop wanting to do it, as the Prohibition in the US has shown.

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Here in the Philippines they wouldn't ban those things, necessarily because the government is corrupt and they gain so much money on these casinos, they only see gambling as illegal if they don't seem to get tax on it just like JUETENG,... and other online casinos that isn't registered by SEC,... Within those said countries I don't know what's their reason but knowing from JAPAN, they have MAFIAs running gambling games so I'm really in shock that they're on the list.

Gambling is a constitutional right in the Philippines. LOL. Kidding aside, it truly is legal as long as you can prove you are having a wake. They also don't go after aunties spending their afternoons playing BINGO out in public.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: buwaytress on August 22, 2019, 03:55:28 PM
I have a feeling that list is suspect, because there's definitely 100% gambling in Singapore. I've seen Casinos there and they regularly put job vacancies for them.

Brunei it is outlawed, correct, but their citizens drive to the border to gamble (illegal also).

Japanese gamble all the time, sportsbetting is small but legal there to my memory of several years ago and I'm pretty sure there are casinos being built right now in several big cities.

Anyway, child labour and prostitution have been done since 3000 BC. Why are governments still trying to ban those (see the bad logic of your argument?)


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: bitmover on August 22, 2019, 04:14:58 PM
Anyway, child labour and prostitution have been done since 3000 BC. Why are governments still trying to ban those (see the bad logic of your argument?)
Comparing child labor and gambling is quiet crazy don't you think?
You are not harming anyone by gambling.
And child labor is usually forced. Does anyone put an weapon in your head and force you to gamble inside a casino?

About prostitution, it is the same as gambling. Let people do whatever they want. And prostitution is legal is some countries


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: crwth on August 22, 2019, 04:28:58 PM
What I thought about when I was reading your topic is that when governments tend to ban something, they have a motive towards it, like how they would make something more valuable. Imagine, drugs are prohibited in some countries, and yet there are people who gain a lot of money from that. If it’s legal, it wouldn’t be priced at such a high rate, but if you make it legal, it’s going to lower in price. Not talking about what could happen to people when exposed to those kinds of stuff but we’re talking about the finance part only.

Maybe the mindset starting from 3000BC didn’t change that much because it’s still in a circle. Nothing so much change regards with the gambling industry. I know that if the government has the right leaders, they would be able to control the situations that arise from the people themselves.

Gambling is hard on it by itself, imagine making it legal. What do you see? What is our future?


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Upgrade00 on August 22, 2019, 04:31:13 PM
Let people do whatever they want. And prostitution is legal is some countries

It makes sense to allow people freely do whatever they want as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others. In a way, it is a littlesimilar to the situation of cryptocurrency in many countries where governments outrightly ban or regulate it's use, tagging it a high risk venture.
They are sort of saying, let us do the thinking for the rest of you and are trying to protect their citizens from themselves.
Or maybe in those countries gambling is synonymous with some other activity which may be illegal.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Coyster on August 22, 2019, 04:40:47 PM
Making gambling illegal only worsens the case in those countries if you ask me, whether there is a ban on it or not, people would still gamble, whether it's covertly or overtly.
So rather than placing a total ban on what most people consider as a means of earning an income, what's much better to be done is to establish regulations and restrictions to betting companies, that way any violation of such laws would attract X punishment.

Gambling is no crime and should never be stopped, the government can try to advice people through various means to gamble wisely and warn them they are at a personal risk should they not.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Ucy on August 22, 2019, 05:02:23 PM
Alot of things are gambling but most people and governments don't want to admit it... Things like investing time and money to get employed but not getting picked amongst thousands of applicants.. Or investing in a legitimate investment but not making enough money.. 
Trying ones luck in lucrative but difficult-to-win things shouldn't be legal as long as they are not addictive and proven to be bad for the society.

I don't think hard drugs should be legal though.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: rosezionjohn on August 22, 2019, 05:49:02 PM
They ban because they cannot control or regulate it, they only want people to buy lottery tickets instead on betting it on some games. They only allow lottery because they can earn from it.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: cabron on August 22, 2019, 05:52:16 PM
Gambling is illegal in China. But this law I guess only applies to the mainland because if you have visited some place like Macua and Hongkong, they seem to have gambling house there. Most of the gamblers in Asia, high rollers are mostly Chinese. If you happen to watch some Asian news, the Chinese are expanding their casinos all over Asia just so they can party outside the mainland and legally do it somewhere else.

The governments can bann gambling but their citizen are still allowed to gamble somewhere, whats the point. They should just allow it and extract taxes from the casinos.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Mahanton on August 22, 2019, 06:29:44 PM
If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,
This line is indeed the truth but we cant do anything about it if certain government do ban gambling into their country.They do have the power on the things that they do like to decide.They might have that sole purpose of banning it just to project its citizens to get addicted and some of them do able to allow it for taxation matter yet we know
that these gambling places generate enourmous amounts of profit and that do benefit out the economy on said country somehow.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on August 22, 2019, 10:56:24 PM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

Quote
Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,
Singapura? Are we talking about Singapore here? There are two casinos in Singapore which is in Marina Bay Sands and in Sentosa. Singapura if I am not mistaken is the old name of Singapore. Singapura (Malay) means Lion City. Although Singapore is just a small island or islands (some are reclaimed only or man made), 2 casinos are just enough.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: jake zyrus on August 22, 2019, 11:14:42 PM
Gambling is like a part of human. And banning gambling can't stop them from gambling if they really want to. They would still gamble illegally. But for me, regulating gambling is already enough and not to the point the government have to ban it. Just like here in my country, some gambling are legal and some are illegal.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: maydna on August 23, 2019, 02:41:06 AM
Although the governments want to ban gambling industry, I guess they will difficult to close all of the gambling places, especially with the biggest gambling places in offline and online. The owner of the gambling places will negotiate with them to continue their business, and perhaps, there will be money that will be given to the government.

Although all governments ban all of the gambling places, I am sure that people will still find a way to connect to the gambling places and visit it back to playing gambling. It doesn't stop people from playing gambling because gambling will still exist for a long time. So I think that will not be a good idea if the government ban the gambling industry, perhaps, they could make a regulation that will prohibit younger people from playing gambling.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Juggy777 on August 23, 2019, 03:40:16 AM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

Quote
Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,

Governments often ban gambling to save their citizens from getting addicted and loosing their money, though I don’t really agree with their decision as citizens should be free to decide whether they wish to gamble or not. If only governments allowed gambling they could make huge amounts of money in taxes, and use it for further development of thier citizens.

Some of the countries banning gambling are mostly Muslim countries, it's understandable because it prohibits them although there are some Muslim regions  that allow them, North Korea is very obvious because people there are so poor that they do not have the means to gamble and they control everything, Gambling cannot be prevented by liberal and democratic countries, but countries that has full control of their citizen can impose that

@Saisher you’re correct countries that run on Islam laws do not allow gambling, and when I visited Dubai last year I didn’t knew this and tried searching for a casino but I found none because betting is illegal there.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: shoreno on August 23, 2019, 03:50:45 AM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens ?
if their purpose of banning gambling is because of protecting thier citizens then that is great  . its good to know that there are still governments like that thesedays but im not saying that those who allow gambling are careless or selfish type of governments .  they also care about thier citizens because they think that people will enjoy and can profit if they allow gambling on thier country  .


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: bering on August 23, 2019, 05:01:28 AM
In my country also gambling prohibited but nothing i can do because they have their own reasons why decide gambling illegal but indeed in the some of countries who legalize gambling then it can be good as source tax because i thought gambling tax is very high and government can use the money to build public facilities which is can be use by many people


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: jrrsparkles on August 23, 2019, 05:40:15 AM
One of the reason why governments made gambling as illegal is religious belief like in Islam gambling will be considered as illegal so countries like UAE ad Brunei banned gambling due to that and other religion also might say it as not the right thing to do.But personally people gamble with or without their knowledge from their childhood between friend as well which is the thing existed for very long time and it will stay even in the banned countries.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: omonuyak on August 23, 2019, 05:46:08 AM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

Quote
Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,
The list of the countries you have provided and playing of gambling is illegal in those countries is a surprise to me and I thought Japan and Cyprus are safe for gambling! The government is not safing the citizens from taking risk but because there is no flamework in the tax’s laws on gambling and they have to tag gambling as evil in other to be able to make it illegal !


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: LogitechMouse on August 23, 2019, 05:48:05 AM
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Here in the Philippines they wouldn't ban those things, necessarily because the government is corrupt and they gain so much money on these casinos, they only see gambling as illegal if they don't seem to get tax on it just like JUETENG,... and other online casinos that isn't registered by SEC,...
Gambling in our country is registered in the government so they will not ban those kind of gambling games here :D. You said it already that our country is composed of a corrupted government that is why they will not ban gambling here. Not only Jueteng but also the so called "peryahan" is considered gambling too. Anyway, that is how our country is lets just go with the flow :D.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: acroman08 on August 23, 2019, 06:16:22 AM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

Quote
Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,

because gambling is associated with illegal activities such as money laundering, gang/mob/mafia involvement etc. which the government tries to prevent or limit it's activities
in their country. and as you know there are countries that allows gambling but with strict restriction to limit the crime activities it associated with.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: swogerino on August 23, 2019, 06:26:09 AM
During my last work time in Balkan as early as January 2019 the Albanian government completely banned all kind of offline gambling as familys were being destroyed and the number of divorces and unemployment rate was really big.I saw even 11 year kids playing sport betting there and I have never seen this in any other Balkan country where I have worked.

In this case I think it was a right decision,government also blocked many online fiat bookies like bet365.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: samputin on August 23, 2019, 06:31:29 AM
The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.
We can't argue with this. Gambling is really part of our system. From its meaning, gambling is 'something that could produce a desired result or a bad or unpleasant result.' In other words, it's all about risks. So with or without money, we gamble because we take risks.

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally.
Indeed. And since we've said that gambling is human nature, once people are really engaged, they will surely find a way to satisfy their crave to gamble. And it won't matter to them whether it's the legal or illegal means. If it's the latter, it'll surely cause bigger problems to the government.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: dantee1 on August 23, 2019, 09:16:10 AM
Government would always claim they are banning gambling to protect it's citizens, and that is what it looks like at the surface. But the reality is that most Governments bans gambling to prevent the outflow of wealth from their country. Again, gambling can be addictive. So it's not farfetched for Government to legitimately claim they are banning gambling to protect their citizens from unwanted addiction.

But the reality is that human being will always find a way to gamble. After all, life itself is like a gamble. 


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Heisenberg_Hunter on August 23, 2019, 10:05:46 AM
The banning of gambling companies under certain jurisdiction can be certainly compared with banning of cryptocurrencies globally at some of the major countries by the government. In the latter case, the government is afraid of their citizens being adapted themselves to the digital currencies and their own currency might become devalued in the future. Regarding the legality of gambling, there are comparatively pros and cons when people gamble with their money. When luck and certain strategies favour gamblers they win a lot of money and become rich. Majority of the governmental practises tend to control their citizens and make them live under a centralized way of gaining money.

Another factor is that Gambling can result in loss of hard earned money if luck doesn't favour the gambler. Certain government tend to restrict such practices at a larger scale to protect their citizens. On top of that, some casinos indulge themselves in shady activities with mobs and criminals which might destroy the reputation of the government. Either way, even though Gambling is accepted as a form of entertainment in most of the English speaking countries, they tend to provide a negative impact to the gamblers on worst moments of luck.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Janation on August 23, 2019, 10:20:59 AM
I think they are thinking that it is better to ban them than people getting addicted to it, and I don't think that will help some.

There are a lot of people wanting to gamble and even if it is illegal, people would gamble illegally. They will hide, find themselves a place they can part their cards in and bet them money. Why don't they just legalized gambling and put a good taxes on casinos or gambling places so they don't need to think about it since it will be the responsibility of the gambler and not them.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Ararbermas on August 23, 2019, 11:33:55 AM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?

Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money.

 Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction.  Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: mitchr4 on August 23, 2019, 12:32:38 PM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?

Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money.

 Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction.  Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site.

We cannot deny that because gambling is indeed related to crimes cause some of them play beyond the limits. Governments only do what they are supposed to do with the intention of protecting their people to avoid it.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: audaciousbeing on August 23, 2019, 12:36:17 PM
Its kind of funny though to see how successive governments that have come into play try as much to want to ban gambling and they have continually fail in it. I think what happens to majority of governments is those whose way of governance are guided by religious connotations and because the religious book didn't change they are forced to abide by it even though they themselves knows the potential of regulations and the amount of money that could be generated from such endeavor.

For the liberal ones, they are gradually changing with rules and regulations in place to ensure that its done within the ambits of the law.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: akram143 on August 23, 2019, 12:38:00 PM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?

Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money.

 Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction.  Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site.

We cannot deny that because gambling is indeed related to crimes cause some of them play beyond the limits. Governments only do what they are supposed to do with the intention of protecting their people to avoid it.
Not really because they are not doing anything to protect people from the crimes but they are restricting gambling just because criminals also might doing gambling such a non sense thought right.But banning will result into underworld gambling industry to grow and also governments will lose the taxes from the gambling industry so it is always better to regulate than banning.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: bitmover on August 23, 2019, 02:13:25 PM
Guys i didn't made that list of banned countries, just shared it.
It is good to see so many people from those countries mentioned, so you can guys can tell if the list is wrong or not.

That list was just an example to support my argument that governments try to ban gamble in some places.

Here in Brazil casinos are illegal, the only gamble which is legal is made by the government (a lotery)


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: iamsheikhadil on August 23, 2019, 04:52:55 PM
The governments know that gambling can cause family separation, job losses and money laundering. Hence any government should take such a move. Obviously, if the Government puts a tax on those casinos, it will be a profit for them, but at the cost of others lives? That's just too selfish!


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: akram143 on August 23, 2019, 05:34:01 PM
Guys i didn't made that list of banned countries, just shared it.
It is good to see so many people from those countries mentioned, so you can guys can tell if the list is wrong or not.


From the list of countries you mentioned in OP,I have been on UAE and Brunei,not sure about the UAE but on other Arab counties it were prohibited and also in Brunei it was made illegal by their Sulthan since its against Sharia law.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on August 23, 2019, 06:25:02 PM
By trying to ban gambling, you're just letting money go out of your country. Take a look at all those Arab countries. Do their citizens stop gambling? No, they just go online. (For some reason I kept hearing Bahrain when it comes to gambling though)

Same for the Chinese. Mainlanders would just go to Macau and now that CCP is trying to "wean" Macau off gambling, where do you think they'll go? Yeah, just other Asian countries. It's so high demand for the Chinese that you see Chinese companies going abroad to build casinos just to accommodate all those gamblers.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: South Park on August 23, 2019, 06:27:16 PM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

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Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,
As far as I know governments prohibits gambling mainly for two reasons, the first reason is that they are trying to protect a segment of the population that will easily get addicted to gambling and lose their money, the problem with this approach is that those people will still lose their money by gambling in an illegal casino or will lose it in some other way, the second reason is that casinos tend to attract crime to the community, so the police department needs to receive more money from the government or criminal activities could get out of control, obviously this is not a problem for online gambling but governments do not like it because the money goes out of the community or even the country and never comes back.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: jhongzjhong on August 23, 2019, 06:35:14 PM
Banning or prohibited because it is illegal I think they are the same. I did not saw a country of China, they are banning gambling on their place, so it means, it is obviously illegal. Maybe the government wanted to protect their citizen not being addicted to gambling because there are some others did not control their selves, it makes continuously making a profit even though that is not right. Different country has different rules and regulation so you must to obey.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: zhekinsp on August 23, 2019, 06:50:25 PM
Banning or prohibited because it is illegal I think they are the same. I did not saw a country of China, they are banning gambling on their place, so it means, it is obviously illegal. Maybe the government wanted to protect their citizen not being addicted to gambling because there are some others did not control their selves, it makes continuously making a profit even though that is not right. Different country has different rules and regulation so you must to obey.
Yes in China any form of gambling activities is illegal but their government runs two official lotteries which is the only option for the people from china to gamle with their money or they can go over seas and gamble there.But people from China normally visit Hong Kong to experience gambling practices.

Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_China


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: iMark on August 24, 2019, 03:18:49 AM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?

Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money.

 Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction.  Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site.

We cannot deny that because gambling is indeed related to crimes cause some of them play beyond the limits. Governments only do what they are supposed to do with the intention of protecting their people to avoid it.
Not really because they are not doing anything to protect people from the crimes but they are restricting gambling just because criminals also might doing gambling such a non sense thought right.But banning will result into underworld gambling industry to grow and also governments will lose the taxes from the gambling industry so it is always better to regulate than banning.
Just because some people who commit crimes in gambling then generalize that gambling is bad because there are people who commit crimes, that is the wrong choice from the government. Gambling should not be banned, because today many people are smart in dealing with losses in gambling. if there are some people who commit crimes, not gamble which is prohibited, but make education for them about the risk of gambling, its will be better.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: mich on August 24, 2019, 03:49:34 AM
Let us not forget that after 3000BC there were horrible things that occurred and the Governments have still banned them
1 thing that comes to my mind immediately is slavery in America and Europe 


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: akram143 on August 24, 2019, 08:13:29 AM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?

Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money.

 Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction.  Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site.

We cannot deny that because gambling is indeed related to crimes cause some of them play beyond the limits. Governments only do what they are supposed to do with the intention of protecting their people to avoid it.
Not really because they are not doing anything to protect people from the crimes but they are restricting gambling just because criminals also might doing gambling such a non sense thought right.But banning will result into underworld gambling industry to grow and also governments will lose the taxes from the gambling industry so it is always better to regulate than banning.
Just because some people who commit crimes in gambling then generalize that gambling is bad because there are people who commit crimes, that is the wrong choice from the government. Gambling should not be banned, because today many people are smart in dealing with losses in gambling. if there are some people who commit crimes, not gamble which is prohibited, but make education for them about the risk of gambling, its will be better.
If governments make money from the gambling casinos then they won't care about who is playing or losing their life on it but many casinos are not reporting the right tax amounts and also personal hate with the leaders might cause them to be banned totally.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on August 24, 2019, 12:07:45 PM
The bans no longer work. The world has become smaller and more interconnected, thanks to internet. If gambling is banned in a certain country, then the user can just use a VPN and join a gambling site which is based in some country where it is completely legal. Or they can just travel to those countries and visit the casinos themselves.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: darklus123 on August 24, 2019, 12:45:08 PM
I think you got the wrong idea. I am certain that gambling in Japan are not all illegal, mostly yes but still people can gamble and have fun but mostly it comes to sports betting and lottery.

Gambling highly involves laundering and addiction problem (which somehow the government can't fix and thinking that the best possible option is just to ban it entirely).
 
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If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,
Even if gambling will becomes legal there can still be "illegal" form of gambling. Are you saying that we should also allow the use of drugs so it will not be used illegally even if the addict can hurt somebody? that is completely irrational


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: bisdak40 on August 24, 2019, 12:59:53 PM
Yes in China any form of gambling activities is illegal but their government runs two official lotteries which is the only option for the people from china to gamle with their money or they can go over seas and gamble there.But people from China normally visit Hong Kong to experience gambling practices.
I think they don't need to come to Hong Kong to gamble as they can do it online, just don't know how they manipulate it so they can't be detective by the authorities. In the Philippines some Chinese businessmen set-up online casinos as it is legal here but their customers are mostly Chinese. Lately the Chinese government is urging the Philippines to ban gambling as what Cambodia did.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: coin-investor on August 24, 2019, 03:57:13 PM
There are two reasons, they want it monitored and regulated because this is a good source of revenues, they are banning gambling that does not have licensed, another reason is they want total control of the wealth of their people like they do in North Korea or they are ultra-religious people and it is forbidden according to their holy book.

No government can really stop gambling its part of our nature, either they imposed a stiff penalty or they regulate it
So far regulation is the most popular because it's a multi-billion dollar business, and there are cities built for gambling only.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: noormcs5 on August 24, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

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Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,

So if anything is going on for ages and governments fail to ban it, they should make it legal ? Should they also make drugs legal just because people will not stop using it ???
The ban at least give some sort of restrictions and almost 50% of the people will follow the ban and will not try to do it illegally. The governments better know why and how gambling and drugs can be harmful for the people.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: joshy23 on August 24, 2019, 05:45:47 PM
Yes in China any form of gambling activities is illegal but their government runs two official lotteries which is the only option for the people from china to gamle with their money or they can go over seas and gamble there.But people from China normally visit Hong Kong to experience gambling practices.
I think they don't need to come to Hong Kong to gamble as they can do it online, just don't know how they manipulate it so they can't be detective by the authorities. In the Philippines some Chinese businessmen set-up online casinos as it is legal here but their customers are mostly Chinese. Lately the Chinese government is urging the Philippines to ban gambling as what Cambodia did.
Those Chinese businessman who set up their gambling site from other countries are just trying to make much bigger profits as they can runaway from the government taxes, it's a good options doing offshores and targeting the same audience, they can deal online and earned bigger than what they can get when it's been setup inside their Homeland.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: kaya11 on August 24, 2019, 07:16:01 PM
As you can see in the list you have brought to us, all of the countries mentioned above are somewhat in a great condition. What I mean is they are rich countries, so furthermore countries that are somehow not stated above and allows gambling in their vicinity: the obvious is that they most likely poor countries and populated. If that's the case then somehow those countries above have maintained law and order in their place and less crimes are done. A good government is trying to stop it's citizens from being destroyed and a bad government will let you gamble all you want and  all that they care is profits from you, not caring on what you may become later on.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: rdluffy on August 24, 2019, 07:39:26 PM
Here in Brazil casinos are illegal, but we can have lottery tickets, some private lottery and we are in a mid term about online gambling, we don't have any kind of regulation (and this is one of the best thing about crypto casinos, because it's different in the law, at least here)

I think every person should be responsible for their money, and there's no problem with gambling if the casinos or campanies have their own regulations


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Oilacris on August 24, 2019, 08:33:45 PM
As you can see in the list you have brought to us, all of the countries mentioned above are somewhat in a great condition. What I mean is they are rich countries, so furthermore countries that are somehow not stated above and allows gambling in their vicinity: the obvious is that they most likely poor countries and populated. If that's the case then somehow those countries above have maintained law and order in their place and less crimes are done. A good government is trying to stop it's citizens from being destroyed and a bad government will let you gamble all you want and  all that they care is profits from you, not caring on what you may become later on.
Neither a rich or poor country it doesn't matter.Regulation or prohibiting gambling into their vicinity does depend on them on what they do look towards gambling.

Caring for its citizens is just a propaganda and not totally having the concern.They do have other reason why some countries do ban them and majority are still
on neutral side.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on August 25, 2019, 03:58:47 AM
Here in Brazil casinos are illegal, but we can have lottery tickets, some private lottery and we are in a mid term about online gambling, we don't have any kind of regulation (and this is one of the best thing about crypto casinos, because it's different in the law, at least here)

I think every person should be responsible for their money, and there's no problem with gambling if the casinos or campanies have their own regulations

If all types of gambling are illegal, then online gambling (including sites that accept cryptocurrency) is also illegal. You won't face any issue unless you win some really big amount. But if that happens, it may be a headache to fill the tax returns. You can't say that you won the amount through gambling. They'll just send you a tax notice with 100% or 200% penalty.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: pieppiep on August 25, 2019, 06:40:46 AM
I think the reason for the government to ban gambling is good. They don't want to see people lose their money in the gambling table, and they come back to their house without any money. The government wants to prevent people become poor by playing gambling, but they cannot ban gambling itself because people will use the other way to still playing gambling. With the ease of the internet connection everywhere, people can easily to visit on the online gambling games if they cannot gamble by offline. They will use the VPN to access the gambling site, and they can use cryptocurrency to stay hiding from the government. The government needs to realize about this so they will think about the other thing to reduces the number of people who were playing gambling in their country.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: btc78 on August 25, 2019, 06:46:33 AM
As you can see most of the countries in that list are Muslim country and I believe it is because gambling is Prohibited in “Koran” as those governments are religiously run

With due respect maybe it’s better to look for the countries that wasn’t run by religion so we can find much better arguments on why and what’s the reason behind banning of gambling


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: noormcs5 on August 25, 2019, 10:46:08 AM
Here in Brazil casinos are illegal, but we can have lottery tickets, some private lottery and we are in a mid term about online gambling, we don't have any kind of regulation (and this is one of the best thing about crypto casinos, because it's different in the law, at least here)

I think every person should be responsible for their money, and there's no problem with gambling if the casinos or campanies have their own regulations

If all types of gambling are illegal, then online gambling (including sites that accept cryptocurrency) is also illegal. You won't face any issue unless you win some really big amount. But if that happens, it may be a headache to fill the tax returns. You can't say that you won the amount through gambling. They'll just send you a tax notice with 100% or 200% penalty.

It varies from county to country. If you are using vpn and bitcoin while playing online gambling in a country where the gambling is prohibited, maybe you never get caught and no government will know how much you are earning. The taxes are on the legal money which is declared in tax returns and there will be no taxes on illegal money.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: virasog on August 25, 2019, 10:50:17 AM
As you can see most of the countries in that list are Muslim country and I believe it is because gambling is Prohibited in “Koran” as those governments are religiously run

With due respect maybe it’s better to look for the countries that wasn’t run by religion so we can find much better arguments on why and what’s the reason behind banning of gambling

I do not know how can you relate the gambling to the religion and among the countries mentioned by the OP only United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Lebanon are Muslims countries and the rest of the countries are non-Muslims.
I think its government decision of making gambling legal or illegal and it has nothing to do with the religion.


Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.
United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: jhonjhon on August 25, 2019, 06:41:31 PM
Gambling is ban to some countries because of religion or culture, in some countries, gambling is considered a sin that people are prohibited to do it and thus the government banning it. We may think it’s stupid to ban something that can be as profitable as gambling but it’s their belief or it’s part of their culture so we can’t judge them.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Oceat on August 25, 2019, 07:41:14 PM
I think what the government's trying to do is to protect its citizens from involving in these addicting games were the main reasons why most of the people are getting poor. Just imagine the effect of it after they were done playing it is something that someone has to win and someone had to lose. With that said, it is not totally helpful. Let those illegal gamblers if they don't want to follow they will gonna pay for it if they get caught.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: hatshepsut93 on August 25, 2019, 09:01:29 PM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?


If you look at your list, you can notice that all those governments have some things in common - they are very conservative, many of them are authoritarian, some are ultrareligious. So, they ban gambling because they ban a ton of other things, because they like controlling every aspect of their citizens lives. And I don't think they simply try to ban it, countries like North Korea can ban things very effectively, because they imprison or kill whole families for slightest missteps.

As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

That's what the rest of the governments do.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: rodel caling on August 25, 2019, 09:36:13 PM
Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

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Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,
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We nee to respect the decision of the that 10 country's the official didn't want to get ear profits from the gambling company and law from that country is enforce strict. Now this chance of the people residing in that 10 country to play gambling via online site using crypto. And the history about gambling from time of BC is that true people gamble but the god tell to people gamble is sin(refference bible) every states have a choices for the better of their country so we need to respect believes.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: emberbekas on August 26, 2019, 09:38:41 AM
I think what the government's trying to do is to protect its citizens from involving in these addicting games were the main reasons why most of the people are getting poor. Just imagine the effect of it after they were done playing it is something that someone has to win and someone had to lose. With that said, it is not totally helpful. Let those illegal gamblers if they don't want to follow they will gonna pay for it if they get caught.

Here in my country, gambling is prohibited because of pressure from some members of the public who say that gambling violates religious rules. Gambling used to be legal, but because of the pressure, the government has to ban it. However at this time there are still many people who gamble secretly.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: romero121 on August 26, 2019, 10:35:05 AM
Historically gambling in the earlier days was much important for the kings. Most of the time it happens as a fight between two men. The winner will be given rewards, and further this was being used by common people playing between themselves challenging each other. The further progress is what we call as gambling. During the days of king rule this wasn't much played and didn't affected the common people's life.

As days passed gambling changed to be a business and more people out of greed and earning big in a short took risk and this ruined the living. This is why we've got more countries to ban gambling.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Indamuck on August 26, 2019, 11:49:33 AM
Most governments actually encourage gambling as long as it is done through legal channels and mostly state run lotteries.  They pull in a huge amount of revenue from the lottery and gullible people continue to buy those tickets not knowing the astronomical odds of winning.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: barbara44 on August 26, 2019, 02:22:29 PM
As you can see in the list you have brought to us, all of the countries mentioned above are somewhat in a great condition. What I mean is they are rich countries, so furthermore countries that are somehow not stated above and allows gambling in their vicinity: the obvious is that they most likely poor countries and populated. If that's the case then somehow those countries above have maintained law and order in their place and less crimes are done. A good government is trying to stop it's citizens from being destroyed and a bad government will let you gamble all you want and  all that they care is profits from you, not caring on what you may become later on.
Yes, most of the countries he mentioned have very great economy and they most likely do not depend on taxes from gambling to excel. Is a country like united Arab that will be in support of gambling because of the benefit of taxes? These ones understand morals and they protect it at all cost. The few countries in support of this probably intend regulating it to generate money from taxes because there is bloody money in casinos. They make a whole lot of money.

If we really want to be true to ourselves, we would admit that gambling has done more harm in the society more than goo. It may have existed for eternity but that doesn’t change the fact that it has damaged so many lives, caused many to go into depression and has made many go broke.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: swogerino on August 26, 2019, 03:50:54 PM
Here in Brazil casinos are illegal, but we can have lottery tickets, some private lottery and we are in a mid term about online gambling, we don't have any kind of regulation (and this is one of the best thing about crypto casinos, because it's different in the law, at least here)

I think every person should be responsible for their money, and there's no problem with gambling if the casinos or campanies have their own regulations

Many different countries are banning or imposing some kind of restrictions to offline gambling however when it comes to online gambling government can stop websites from being accessed by a local ISP but cannot restrict anyone who is smart enough to use TOR and Vpn services to hide their IP,this becomes easier with crypto as you can withdraw to a crypto wallet which is anonymous.Maximum governments can do is to stop withdrawing directly to your bank account.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: joshy23 on August 26, 2019, 03:55:49 PM
Most governments actually encourage gambling as long as it is done through legal channels and mostly state run lotteries.  They pull in a huge amount of revenue from the lottery and gullible people continue to buy those tickets not knowing the astronomical odds of winning.
This place of gambling being supported by the government as what you have mentioned, since the government is getting a huge amount of profits which they can use to finance charity works, with legal aspects the government will continue patronizing this kind of gambling and people who loves to take the risk trying their chances with fate knowing that there's only slim chances of winnings.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Ryker1 on August 26, 2019, 04:03:47 PM
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Many different countries are banning or imposing some kind of restrictions to offline gambling however when it comes to online gambling government can stop websites from being accessed by a local ISP but cannot restrict anyone who is smart enough to use TOR and Vpn services to hide their IP,this becomes easier with crypto as you can withdraw to a crypto wallet which is anonymous.Maximum governments can do is to stop withdrawing directly to your bank account.
Well, that is wrong. Because all online gamblings were had by their own licenses to operate and once gambling was banned in that country it means they can not operate too. There are governments that they don't like gambling in their place, just like the country of China, they prohibit gambling but there is the largest casino in Macau. If you are a Chinese citizen you can go to Macau just to gamble legally. Indeed, if your country prohibited in gambling then, just follow on it than you put on jail.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Ranly123 on August 26, 2019, 04:16:19 PM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

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Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,


This is true that even before the modern civilization, gambling already exist. What the government is doing is they try to control it since it can ruin the financial build-up of a person. Anyway, yes it is a human nature to gamble but not to the extent that you get addicted to it and even commit crime just to sustain the addiction on gambling.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Naida_BR on August 26, 2019, 07:51:42 PM
I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

Quote
Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,

The reason why governments try to ban it is because it is an addiction.
And in every addiction there are many people who cannot control their desires.
It will be an entertainment for many years but rules will be placed forever...


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: SquallLeonhart on August 27, 2019, 06:18:32 AM
There are two reasons, they want it monitored and regulated because this is a good source of revenues, they are banning gambling that does not have licensed, another reason is they want total control of the wealth of their people like they do in North Korea or they are ultra-religious people and it is forbidden according to their holy book.

No government can really stop gambling its part of our nature, either they imposed a stiff penalty or they regulate it
So far regulation is the most popular because it's a multi-billion dollar business, and there are cities built for gambling only.
I don’t  believe it’s all counties that ban it because they want to be in control of it regulation and even though they choose to be in control, I think it will be  a great idea because they would prevent a lot of immoral activities that the gambling operators on their own wouldn’t do because they want to make money. For instance, in some countries, for a gambling site to be licensed, it has to make KYC process compulsory and the requirement for age is here and the reason is to stop minors from gambling.

In a situation like this, we will now see that the countries are more concerned with Having the right gambling attitude than the money itself. Yes gambling has been on for years, but those days, it was done decently and kids below age weren’t permitted to play but to because of internet, you see children below 18 gambling.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Upgrade00 on August 27, 2019, 06:54:51 AM
I don’t  believe it’s all counties that ban it because they want to be in control of it regulation and even though they choose to be in control, I think it will be  a great idea because they would prevent a lot of immoral activities that the gambling operators on their own wouldn’t do because they want to make money. For instance, in some countries, for a gambling site to be licensed, it has to make KYC process compulsory and the requirement for age is here and the reason is to stop minors from gambling.

Almost all countries I am aware of, regulates gambling and all licensed companies have to stick to the rules and guidelines. This includes, age limit, taxations etcetera.
This is quite different from places where it us illegal and outrightly banned. These nations do not want their citizens to gamble.

And there is really no logical reason for this. Some argue that it's cause people lose from gambling, but this is based on their decisions, people lose from lots of investments, this does not mean we would ban then all.
Religious sentiments is the most common reason for countries practicing theocracy.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: pieppiep on August 27, 2019, 03:01:15 PM
The reason why governments try to ban it is because it is an addiction.
And in every addiction there are many people who cannot control their desires.
It will be an entertainment for many years but rules will be placed forever...

I think that is right. The government ban gambling because gambling can make their people addicted to gambling, and they don't want to see their citizen become lazy too without the want to get work. Once people are playing gambling all day long and they become addicting, they will forget their duty, or they will forget everything because they only want to play again and again. That will be bad for people because they cannot separate which part for having fun, which part for work for their life. Maybe the government doesn't have to ban gambling, but they can make some restriction that will only allow gambling to be played for adult people.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: panjul07 on August 27, 2019, 03:06:53 PM
The reason why governments try to ban it is because it is an addiction.
And in every addiction there are many people who cannot control their desires.
It will be an entertainment for many years but rules will be placed forever...

Is it your own opinion or is it based on a fact that you hear from the government?
IMO addiction has nothing to do with BAN, if every addiction is banned by government then many people will leave the country to other country. Addiction is not only about gambling but there are many other addiction which are still not being banned by government.
I have different opinion why gambling is banned by government especially in my country. I have two reasons which come to my mind why gambling is banned:
- It is related to religion.
- The bad effect of gambling = increase the number of criminal activity when many gamblers lost alot of money.
 


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: peter0425 on August 27, 2019, 03:16:02 PM
But the banning of gambling is not happening worldwide instead there are only few countries that has this laws but majority has not so I think this won’t even affect the gambling industry that much

But just like what you said that people will seek ways on how to continue their vices is indeed ,and I have some friends in some countries that you mentioned on whos they can still gamble even the strict law was being  implemented

And another thing is it seems that those countries are Muslims so it’s reasonable that gambling is not part of their living just like liquor and drugs and womanizing as well,.so let’s respect them and let the other countries enjoy gambling legalization


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Best Dreams on August 27, 2019, 07:02:00 PM
As you can see most of the countries in that list are Muslim country and I believe it is because gambling is Prohibited in “Koran” as those governments are religiously run

With due respect maybe it’s better to look for the countries that wasn’t run by religion so we can find much better arguments on why and what’s the reason behind banning of gambling

I do not know how can you relate the gambling to the religion and among the countries mentioned by the OP only United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Lebanon are Muslims countries and the rest of the countries are non-Muslims.
I think its government decision of making gambling legal or illegal and it has nothing to do with the religion.


Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.
United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
Yeah there is no place for region or anything else because people use to gain money is best from gaming. Not only United state Arab Imarat but all countries use to consider gambling but every one gambling is beneficial if we gamble with rules and never bring emotions in  gaming there is huge profit with good gambling.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: vintages on August 27, 2019, 08:04:40 PM
Some government feels it will make the people to become unproductive and less innovative.
In as much as I'm against governments banning gambling in countries, sometimes we human tends to fall back and seek money in ways were we have to do less work.
Imagine if the citizens of a whole country are gamblers, what a country it will be.
What government should do though instead of banning is to regulate it in a less strict way without extorting.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: South Park on August 27, 2019, 08:55:02 PM
Some government feels it will make the people to become unproductive and less innovative.
In as much as I'm against governments banning gambling in countries, sometimes we human tends to fall back and seek money in ways were we have to do less work.
Imagine if the citizens of a whole country are gamblers, what a country it will be.
What government should do though instead of banning is to regulate it in a less strict way without extorting.

It seems to me that this is the right approach, once a government bans gambling there is not much to do except to put in jail all of those that violate the law, this is both costly and ineffective especially if the ban is an attempt to protect those that are addicted to gambling, it is way better to regulate the market, this way they obtain taxes out of the casinos, gamblers have a place where to gamble without any fear of being arrested and they can use that money to create campaigns to inform the public about the dangers of becoming addicted to gambling.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Oceat on August 27, 2019, 09:07:56 PM
Some government feels it will make the people to become unproductive and less innovative.
In as much as I'm against governments banning gambling in countries, sometimes we human tends to fall back and seek money in ways were we have to do less work.
Imagine if the citizens of a whole country are gamblers, what a country it will be.
What government should do though instead of banning is to regulate it in a less strict way without extorting.

It will not going to happen since people need to make money first in order to continue living their own life. And also, not everyone likes to play gambling in the first place because there are people who are not into it. The government had the right to ban those illegal gambling in the first place since they don't have any permit but of course, this will varies from country to country who have different rules and regulation about gambling.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 29, 2019, 08:21:22 AM
Some government feels it will make the people to become unproductive and less innovative.
In as much as I'm against governments banning gambling in countries, sometimes we human tends to fall back and seek money in ways were we have to do less work.
Imagine if the citizens of a whole country are gamblers, what a country it will be.
What government should do though instead of banning is to regulate it in a less strict way without extorting.


The country will not unproductive as you say and people don't want to work to earn money because they have a short way to make money. Yes, I agree that the government needs to regulate gambling, so not all people can play gambling, especially for people who don't have work in their life. People need to obey the government if the regulations release because that is for the people itself, and the government doesn't want to see their people will become homeless and unemployed.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: Ucy on August 29, 2019, 04:38:07 PM
I don’t  believe it’s all counties that ban it because they want to be in control of it regulation and even though they choose to be in control, I think it will be  a great idea because they would prevent a lot of immoral activities that the gambling operators on their own wouldn’t do because they want to make money. For instance, in some countries, for a gambling site to be licensed, it has to make KYC process compulsory and the requirement for age is here and the reason is to stop minors from gambling.

Almost all countries I am aware of, regulates gambling and all licensed companies have to stick to the rules and guidelines. This includes, age limit, taxations etcetera.
This is quite different from places where it us illegal and outrightly banned. These nations do not want their citizens to gamble.

And there is really no logical reason for this. Some argue that it's cause people lose from gambling, but this is based on their decisions, people lose from lots of investments, this does not mean we would ban then all.
Religious sentiments is the most common reason for countries practicing theocracy.

Well, my religion does not prohibit gambling. It would be kind of hypocritical to ban gambling while other things like alcohol (red wine esp) is encouraged in moderation. Governments don't have to ban all gamblings  Some kinds of legitimate businesses have alot  in common with gambling and they are allowed in countries where gambling is illegal. Isn't that strange?


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: jhongzjhong on August 29, 2019, 04:56:06 PM
Governments don't have to ban all gamblings  Some kinds of legitimate businesses have alot  in common with gambling and they are allowed in countries where gambling is illegal. Isn't that strange?
Business is business, maybe government has been issued business permit and I don't think it is illegal. But first, let me know what is the name on that legitimate business. Because as far as I know, if you abide the government law, it should be punishable and probably put in jail. I think if gambling is banned on your place, then don't try bypass it again because you're just committing crimes if you caught in your government.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: stomachgrowls on August 29, 2019, 05:40:48 PM
But the banning of gambling is not happening worldwide instead there are only few countries that has this laws but majority has not so I think this won’t even affect the gambling industry that much

But just like what you said that people will seek ways on how to continue their vices is indeed ,and I have some friends in some countries that you mentioned on whos they can still gamble even the strict law was being  implemented

And another thing is it seems that those countries are Muslims so it’s reasonable that gambling is not part of their living just like liquor and drugs and womanizing as well,.so let’s respect them and let the other countries enjoy gambling legalization
Yes it is not happening in every country. It has happened and is still happening in some of the Middle Eastern countries and in countries like India and Pakistan and maybe China. The rest of the countries for example in Europe and in America are harnessing this industry to make money. They have built great businesses around this concept and give taxes to the governments.
Not all countries do have the same perspective and views towards gambling and some of them would definitely consider it out due to tax reasons.

We know that this is a big industry and can really generate big amounts and a part of it- government does really get some benefits from it thats why they do
allow such industry to operate on.


Title: Re: Humans Gamble since 3000BC, and Governments still try to ban
Post by: TopT3ns on August 29, 2019, 07:32:54 PM
Maybe back to what can gambling cause. Because a lot of bad thing can happen if someone keep lose in gambling games. Maybe government only prevent bad things that can happen like criminality or maybe anything else especially if someone already addicted, they will do anything to get money so they can play gambling again. If me i don't care although in my country gambling is prohibited. I still can play with bitcoin that is why i really like bitcoin.