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Title: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Lawrenzoo on August 23, 2019, 03:24:06 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: harizen on August 23, 2019, 08:24:06 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

What's the purpose of this thread? Gathering sort of info or something?

A bull can't always be a bull.
A bear can't always be a bear

Might not be useful info for you.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: bkbirge on August 23, 2019, 08:25:53 PM
I guess by your definition I'm a bull. Always putting in but not taking out. The taking out will be done by my kids I'm guessing. Whether they have anything to take out or not is a giant unknown. So maybe I'm a grouchy bull.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Oilacris on August 23, 2019, 09:11:19 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
Either way because I do have long term goals and short term ones which means I can do both things.

Theres no specific person would opt in on sticking one sided.Majority would really done things accordingly specially if they do saw money making opportunity.
As a long term investor,if you do see that you are profiting with a certain coin, would you let it pass? For sure you will consider on selling it up.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: jackg on August 23, 2019, 10:22:18 PM
As a long term investor,if you do see that you are profiting with a certain coin, would you let it pass? For sure you will consider on selling it up.

I think there's also a thing about proving it as a currency (to yourself).

I might spend a small fraction of the btc I hold (10% maximum maybe) just to check that it still works to buy physical goods and is still accepted (as I anticipate it to be)...

I plan on putting what I plan to spend in the future into bitcoin and see if it increases by the time I spend it (find a point when the coin is low and dollar cost average out of it instead), but I'd have to be pretty certain of my stance.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Strongkored on August 24, 2019, 05:28:09 AM
I am in both of them and this is all have a reason.
First for BTC will save some for the long term and part of it is used for some purposes.
Second if the form is Altcoin or Token then the frequency is because I'm late selling it so I would prefer to put it into long term, especially if the decrease is very deep, but this only applies to Altcoin whose development has been stable or continues to have development updates.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Janation on August 24, 2019, 05:37:06 AM
I think this depends.

With the volatility of Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies as a whole, obviously there will be a lot of changes in the way you are investing since you will depends on the movement of the market whether you will be holding for a long time or in a short time.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: arpon11 on August 24, 2019, 05:51:14 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I think bull or bear’s group means what you said and I will advise you change it to traders or investors! Bull are those that are interested of prices’ of assets keeps going up and the bears do complete opposite of what the bull does and they are only interested in the downward movement of price and this two force determines the state of assets(bitcoin) in a particular point in time. If your question is reframe based on the advice above then I will said I am a day trader.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: sunsilk on August 24, 2019, 10:01:38 AM
Dedicated myself to be a long term on bitcoin but I'm not going to hold forever and won't take profit if its necessary.

As a long term investor,if you do see that you are profiting with a certain coin, would you let it pass? For sure you will consider on selling it up.
Yes, if opportunity knocks to sell why you will ignore it. There's always something that you have to consider if the situation changes and I think most of us are balance into defining in which group where we belong.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: romero121 on August 24, 2019, 11:43:16 AM
Bitcoin price move is not upon the Bulls who keep investing for long term or not just because of the bears who keep on cashing out on short term or on regular needs. The usage of bitcoin as currency keeps increasing, upon the same the market is dependent on bulls or bears to some level.

One of the user has stated that people were always looking for money and never think of the market is getting changed of their activities. This is not fair, because just because of the earning access our cryptocurrency community keeps growing everyday. If there is no earning access bitcoin could've never gained such an importance as now.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: samputin on August 24, 2019, 12:17:56 PM
-snip-
A bull can't always be a bull.
A bear can't always be a bear
Yep. On point. Because of the situation of the market, which is prone to volatility as we know it, you really can't just stick to one personality or group, right? At some point, you have to invest in the long term or short term. I mean, you got to have to decide which you will be (bull or bear) when you see a good chance of earning better.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 24, 2019, 12:50:21 PM
I don't know, to be honest I can't say that I am a bull or a bear. All I know is that I am basing my investment on the movement of the price. If the price goes up, I might wait for a short period of time and sell, if it falls down I wait depends on the informations and updates I am reading.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Lucius on August 24, 2019, 01:02:10 PM
There is no doubt that there are people who invest in the long term, they are not traders and they keep they coins in safe place (hardware or paper wallets), and others who will take any opportunity to make money by trading.

I think both groups are contributing in their own way - less coins in circulation means that those on the market are worth more, and trading is very important part of crypto because it actually shows us how strong is cryptocurrency in terms of security or speed of transaction.

I'm a long-term player, but I spend some coins from time to time to buy some things, but only because I have some stores that accept cryotocurrency in my country. In some cases people just hold coins, they think trading is big risk (and this is true), and they just have nowhere to spend BTC.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on August 24, 2019, 03:24:47 PM
I'd prefer to call myself a "hodler". I don't regularly put much money in, like in your definition of a "bear" but at the same time I'm thinking about it long-term, like how you define "bull".



Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: mnsx on August 24, 2019, 05:12:28 PM
I like to be a holder of the coin because I think the price may rise one day and I would feel bad if I spent it.
This is nor being a bull and nor being a bear as I don't trade almost nothing,I just wait and wait.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: bernardos on August 24, 2019, 05:17:40 PM
I am in both groups I guess. I dont spend much of my bitcoins and will keep them for better things in the future. Since I do a bit of bounty translations those are the coins that I exchange either for BTC or ETH as I havent come across many projects that have survived in the long run. Most bounty hunters dump their coins and big number of projects never recover. 


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: hahay on August 24, 2019, 06:32:31 PM
Not both, if you realize it from what you say then it can be done by the same group. If you say there is a bull group that always puts money into the market without not making frequent withdrawals, but when he sells all of his assets then he will also make a bear trend happen, because we know the bear market will occur at least in large volumes and that happens usually after the bull's trend occurs and vice versa.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: gentlemand on August 24, 2019, 06:59:34 PM
You can be a bull and take shit tons out. Selling is not bearish. Sometimes it's necessary. And if you're selling with the expectation of buying back for less that makes you a long term bull. Most active traders have a long term balance they never touch and a smaller amount they risk with trading.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: rdluffy on August 24, 2019, 07:49:15 PM
Following your terms, I'm a Bull
Because all the money I'm willing to invest, are already in coins, BTC, ETH and a few more
I don't have fiat money at the moment to invest more


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Kakmakr on August 24, 2019, 08:46:13 PM
Based on your two categories, I can be defined as a "Bull" with hoard tendencies.  ;D  I use 10% of my monthly salary to continuously buy more and more coins, when the price is low. I believe in a long-term strategy and also to spend 20% of all coins I buy to sustain the network that supports Bitcoin payments.  ;)

So I do "sell" bitcoins regularly, but it is only to pay for services and goods that are on offer for Bitcoin payment. If we stop paying with bitcoins, merchants will stop accepting it.  :(


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: yesyes18 on August 24, 2019, 09:00:44 PM
Well, there are other groups you could have acknowledged hahaha...Anyways pertaining to your options, I think I'll be part of the long termers. that's because I've been in for quite sometimes now and I'm still riding along no matter what happens.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: samcrypto on August 24, 2019, 11:34:30 PM
Is there any group that focus on their own goals, price setting and own analysis? Maybe I will start that group because you can’t always hold, or you are not allowed to sell this will always depend on the strategy that you have. If you’re bull then so be it, just be more confident with your investment. I want the price to go up for me to sell, its not a dump group i guess, its more on hitting your goal.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Reid on August 24, 2019, 11:38:53 PM
Why not just ask if you are an investor or a trader.
Most traders do short term investing while investors tend to be  attached with their coins and keep it for the promise land.

What is this for again?
Basing on each users way of replies here, you could definitely tell who they are.
Well, there are instances it might change at the long run.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: hyipleaks on August 25, 2019, 12:14:23 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

Probably 50/50. Depends on token, current market and lots of stuff.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: marcbitcoins on August 25, 2019, 01:35:27 AM
With these given selections, I was belong to Bulls as i keep on holding my Crypto assets until now in which most of them are maybe going to be crap soon as i missed to sell them high during the Bullish time before. I don't know if this is greediness but still i am holding and hoping that the market will become bullish again so that my old coins will not going to be really useless in the future.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: nightxglow on August 25, 2019, 05:19:04 AM
I'm divided into two actually. For high value coins, i choose bull's group. I tend to invest them for a long time and rarely take them out if it's not needed.
Meanwhile for the others, it's bear's group. I will most likely use them for short term investment only. I don't plan keeping them for a long time so i often sold them immediately if the price is high. I think it depends on the value and volatility of the coins to determine which group am i belong.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: silversurfer1958 on August 25, 2019, 06:58:16 AM
I belong to the BEAR group.
In my observation, long term investment is not really one of the wise decisions. When I have knowledge of Technical Analysic, I understand charts, and I can make a lot of money from fluctuations. So why do I have to hold long term with great risk?
I believe there are many traders who think like me. ;D


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: coolcoinz on August 25, 2019, 09:16:46 AM
I belong to the BEAR group.
In my observation, long term investment is not really one of the wise decisions. When I have knowledge of Technical Analysic, I understand charts, and I can make a lot of money from fluctuations. So why do I have to hold long term with great risk?
I believe there are many traders who think like me. ;D

Really? Not a good idea? Most people who came to the forum before 2018 will disagree.


I'm a bull. I bought my coins years ago and earned some through various trades, forum jobs, giveaways, airdrop conversions, and so on. I believe in Bitcoin, not the altcoins, although I've bought ETHa few months ago when it was hitting its yearly lows. I tend to convert everything into Bitcoin and aim to hold a big portfolio at least until the next halving.

IMO, we are going to hit at least another ATH before we stabilize and I'm not planning to sell for less than 25-30k USD per coin, or preferably before I'm able to spend directly, as I don't want USD, but goods and services. I'd like to avoid conversion.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: bering on August 25, 2019, 09:40:09 AM
I might be can be called as both of them that depend on the market situations if i feel i could get short term profit then i would sold my crypto assets including bitcoin but sometimes my plan will change if there is no upcoming pump to particular coins then long term hold could be good option to do so


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Genamant on August 25, 2019, 10:48:20 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

2017 to 1st quarter of 2018 i was in the Bull Group, i literally watched my folio dissolved and turn negative
because of that i hold a lot of coins that turn shit but supposedly brought profit on the Bull run last 2017
i had lots of what if and should have done , i literally lost huge amount but definitely it was a lesson learnt
now i am more of a swing trader and  doing 50/50 , 50% on btc 50% on usdt.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: imstillthebest on August 25, 2019, 12:29:21 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

2017 to 1st quarter of 2018 i was in the Bull Group, i literally watched my folio dissolved and turn negative
because of that i hold a lot of coins that turn shit but supposedly brought profit on the Bull run last 2017
i had lots of what if and should have done , i literally lost huge amount but definitely it was a lesson learnt
now i am more of a swing trader and  doing 50/50 , 50% on btc 50% on usdt.


too bad but your not the only one that experience that . i was also from bulls group before , not because of constant buying but  because of long term hodling/investing  but after a year and two i decided to switch lanes because im not feeling well with my coins  . i sold them slowly until a few coins have only left on my portfolio   .  the year 2017 was indeed good  but the year 2018 give us all a phobia  about hodling  .


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: BitHodler on August 25, 2019, 12:32:40 PM
I'm long term speaking bullish but in the short term that can change. Currently I'm short term bearish and spend some of my coins to not lose much in purchasing power, which can be seen as cashing out.

The thing with people is that they think bears are bears for ever. Rational traders/investors follow the trend and based on that trend they are either bullish or bearish. Nothing wrong with that.

People here consider bears trolls and fud spreaders while they haven't done anything of that nature at all. Just because you don't like someone's bearish outlook doesn't mean that this person is spreading fud. Makes little sense.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: raidarksword on August 25, 2019, 12:39:44 PM
I am picking myself as the group of bear because i am short term investor, afraid of taking risk and losing my money in the end and there are nothing wrong with that because everyone are entitled to their investments even it's big or small. As long as i can take profit for a short time, it's always fine with me.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Reatim on August 25, 2019, 06:16:16 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

I belong to this one since I am for long term holding and adding some coins whenever I have  a chance and ofcourse enough capital because people like me that has family to took care is really hard to adjust my money
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BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I use to be like this couple years ago when I always withdraw if my capital gets at least 10-20% but things changed when 2018 comes and I leave no choice but to hold and now I loving what I am doing


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: yoseph on August 25, 2019, 06:46:29 PM
I am picking myself as the group of bear because i am short term investor, afraid of taking risk and losing my money in the end and there are nothing wrong with that because everyone are entitled to their investments even it's big or small. As long as i can take profit for a short time, it's always fine with me.
I think i will call myself as a short term investor because i buy when it goes down and wait for a while and hope it goes up and i then sell and make some profits through the differences. Patience is paramount in this endeavour.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: sana54210 on August 25, 2019, 08:53:11 PM
I belong to bulls group easily, I haven't put too much money into the market because I am not rich and it is only few hundred bucks but from someone who lives in a third world country that is a lot of money. I have about 7 thousand dollars worth in crypto total and I can't sell all of it since the coins I hold (bounty and airdrop mostly) have absolutely zero volume and I would have to destroy the market and get maybe 500-1000 dollars for all of them if I sold it all right now.

I actually calculated and it is around 0.25 right now if I sold all of them which is not bad amount of money for me but considering the market price would be around 0.7 instead of 0.25 it would be useless to sell them all right now. That is why I can easily say that I belong to bulls group.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: mamahdedeh on August 26, 2019, 01:59:55 AM
I personally am more suitable for the mid-term investor, because when buying bitcoin or ethereum, I hold it for a relatively long time. when I buy floating minus occurs in a long time, and I sell it when the target is met. and buy back when there is a price correction. maybe when asked by a group, I am more inclined to medium-term traders


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: kaya11 on August 26, 2019, 04:01:13 AM
I do have some savings in the crypto currencies but I take when I badly need money, such as emergencies. At times of need like health problems then it should be taken care of right away. Where does that belong to? But I do like to keep my coins if not needed and buy mire when I have spare money, maybe I fall for the bull in your poll.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Initscri on August 26, 2019, 04:15:40 AM
I'm a bit of both. I put money into the market through work (I accept BTC for freelancing work).

I then remove some of the BTC (for bills, etc) + keep some in BTC (just because I believe in BTC as a whole)


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: NavI_027 on August 26, 2019, 04:56:04 AM
Honestly, I can't decide where I belong so I guess I stay in the middle. I am a hodler, though I don't have money as huge as the whales have but still I do long term investing. However, recently I withdraw more often not because I'm a "pump and dump" guy but because of emergency expenses. I am now the one who sustain my daily needs for my review so these things are inevitable.

But after I passed my exam and able to work, quarter of my first salary will go to my digital wallet for sure ;D.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 26, 2019, 05:19:41 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I am with those group ;D

I want to make money in a short time, and I also want to make money for a long time. I am sure that many people do this too as traders want to make a short time profit. We can choose both short time and a long time in the market because we will make more profit in the future, especially if, in the future, our investment can grow higher than the first time we bought. We will have more interest if we can find the other potential coins at the market, and I am sure that we will purchase those coins and hold it for a long time.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: deisik on August 26, 2019, 07:13:28 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors

That's a false dichotomy

As there are other alternatives and some of these alternatives overlap at that. Most experienced traders can be both and definitely not in the extreme form as you describe them. Bulls are not always only putting money into the market and never withdrawing it, while bears may be reinvesting some or all of their income. Further, you can be bullish on one coin and buying it while at the same time bearish on another and selling it. In simple terms, it is unlikely you will find a real person that would match your description perfectly (an ideal bull or an ideal bear)


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Polar91 on August 26, 2019, 02:47:21 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
Me personally belong to the bull's group if I'm not mistaken. I'm more on skeptical with my investment, specially in Bitcoin. Another reason why I'm not pulling out my money from cryptocurrency for a long period of time is because I don't see any good investment out there in which I can understand and trust. Good thing to stay in cryptocurrency, I guess and then trade some of it in order to acquire more value to my asset.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: South Park on August 26, 2019, 03:35:18 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I my opinion you are really talking about permabulls who are always positive and believe the market will keep growing and permabears that believe the opposite, if you are an investor or trader you cannot really marry any posture, you need to watch the market and its indicators and then you decide what posture to take, besides those are not the only postures you can take, for example during the next days and weeks I am not really bullish or bearish since I believe the market will not move enough in either direction to justify any of those postures so I believe the price will keep ranging for a while.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: barbara44 on August 27, 2019, 03:28:25 AM
This was probably asked in more sense of "do you think bitcoin will go up or do you believe it will go down" and not really to specify everyone for good forever.

For example, I am a person who thinks bitcoin will go up in the long term but in short term it could do anything, like it could be 15k tomorrow or it could be 8k tomorrow and I wouldn't be surprised by any of it, however in 10 years from now I know it will be higher. That is why I pick the bulls group because I am a person who is long on bitcoin and bull on its price but if you take a look at it on more day trader approach than you will see that many bulls think it could be bear for a while in short term or vice versa with bears people thinking it could go up in short term. Not that there are many long term bears in crypto.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: randyboy on August 27, 2019, 04:12:29 AM
I am not belong to any of that group, I belong to a neutral way. prices in market are not predicted so that I cant choose any side of that. this time we can expect that price will go up and down, everyone will pay attention to market, each time we will sell or hold what we have, whether we going to sell it or not. or wait for the right time. that's always been in my mind, so I can't make a right decision. better to wait for a better chance.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Lapatai on August 27, 2019, 08:02:19 AM
If you really want to know, I am a bull. I make long term investments. It is not as profitable as short terms, but it is safer. I like to make safer investments, of course with lower profit.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: iMark on August 27, 2019, 09:32:47 AM
I am in both of them and this is all have a reason.
First for BTC will save some for the long term and part of it is used for some purposes.
Second if the form is Altcoin or Token then the frequency is because I'm late selling it so I would prefer to put it into long term, especially if the decrease is very deep, but this only applies to Altcoin whose development has been stable or continues to have development updates.
If you are in a bears group, and you also have backup funds for the future then you are a smart person. Experience teaches us that in the long run the price of bitcoin will definitely go up high, and it's stupid if you don't save bitcoin too for the future. so most smart people must be in these 2 groups


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: iv4n on August 27, 2019, 12:23:18 PM
I am in both of them and this is all have a reason.
First for BTC will save some for the long term and part of it is used for some purposes.
Second if the form is Altcoin or Token then the frequency is because I'm late selling it so I would prefer to put it into long term, especially if the decrease is very deep, but this only applies to Altcoin whose development has been stable or continues to have development updates.
If you are in a bears group, and you also have backup funds for the future then you are a smart person. Experience teaches us that in the long run the price of bitcoin will definitely go up high, and it's stupid if you don't save bitcoin too for the future. so most smart people must be in these 2 groups

What ever you do, in this case dealing with crypto, you always need to have backup plan. Nobody can survive in long run with going all in every time, no matter do you sell or you buy, you need to have more funds to cover yourself in case price movement change it`s course suddenly.
Anyone who deals with crypto should put some profit on a side for holding, in long term not just bitcoin price will go up, some alts have very promising future too.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: guoyu78 on August 27, 2019, 01:22:22 PM
I do have some savings in the crypto currencies but I take when I badly need money, such as emergencies. At times of need like health problems then it should be taken care of right away. Where does that belong to? But I do like to keep my coins if not needed and buy mire when I have spare money, maybe I fall for the bull in your poll.
Lol. I guess you belong to both. At one point, we will all fall within both group, so I will not say that it will be a fixed or constant situation, and the reason why we are separating it is because many of us tend to forget that bitcoin is meant to be a utility coin, it is really meant to be used to pay for things within ourselves aside of the store of value features of it, so we are actually meant to be making lots of transactions with it and not just holding it there in the wallet, if we all keep the money in wallet, how would bitcoin really fulfill its main purpose of defeating the tradition banking system and also serving as alternative to fiat.

The fact we take money out does not make us belong to the bear group completely, except maybe we do it deliberately.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: el kaka22 on August 27, 2019, 01:54:58 PM
I think most people are neutral in the way that you talk about. I mean nobody really knows what direction bitcoin will go in the short term, we don't know what it could do, we are not even exactly sure about the potential of bitcoin. Some say bitcoin will become something so huge that everywhere around the world it will become the primary currency so that people will be using bitcoin everywhere around the world without using fiat at all.

However, some people do not believe that and bitcoin will stay around here, at best case stay around 50-60 thousand dollars and can't break above that ever because it would require a lot more money to be put into it and that is why it can't have that type of huge future. While we can't even decide on potential, it would be weird to decide on the short future like tomorrow or this week.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 27, 2019, 05:33:39 PM
There aren't only two groups of investors, OP.  People who are either permabulls or permabears are insane IMO, and I see it a lot in the precious metals markets, where they'll tell you it's always a great time to buy gold or silver.  If you're looking to make a profit, you'll obviously realize that that can't be true--you have to sell eventually if you're ever going to make money.

Currenly I'm fully on the bull side of bitcoin, and I strongly suspect that it'll go higher before it goes lower.  The breakout from $3500 was huge, even if it's now stuck in a range again.  When it starts moving again, I have no doubt it will be to the upside.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: sunsilk on August 27, 2019, 07:45:27 PM
If you really want to know, I am a bull. I make long term investments. It is not as profitable as short terms, but it is safer. I like to make safer investments, of course with lower profit.
We're on the same cage but it doesn't mean that profit would become lower in the long term. How much was bitcoin during the time you've bought it? that's the matter and mostly, everyone who bought from the past except the all time high, took bitcoin when it was lower.

And as it goes on, the price is rising so if you think that profit would be low on your end from this moment whenever the all time high comes again. Why not do action and keep on stacking while there's an ample time for you to do?


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: EdenHazard on August 27, 2019, 08:00:35 PM
This was probably asked in more sense of "do you think bitcoin will go up or do you believe it will go down" and not really to specify everyone for good forever.

For example, I am a person who thinks bitcoin will go up in the long term but in short term it could do anything, like it could be 15k tomorrow or it could be 8k tomorrow and I wouldn't be surprised by any of it, however in 10 years from now I know it will be higher. That is why I pick the bulls group because I am a person who is long on bitcoin and bull on its price but if you take a look at it on more day trader approach than you will see that many bulls think it could be bear for a while in short term or vice versa with bears people thinking it could go up in short term. Not that there are many long term bears in crypto.
Well actually we could always making our own dichotomy...

a bull group supposed to be those people who loves making profit when the market is up
And
a bear group supposed to be the other way around or so.

But here we are..
I personally have a serious commitment since few years I do my bitcoin investment back in 2013/2014 that I will never cash xxx amount of bitcoin out at least for the next 20 years!
But I do actively trade in daily basis too , which group am I?  ;D


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: xvids on August 27, 2019, 09:07:18 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
It all depends on what crypto are we talking here.
If it is a good one who could survive in the long run then we could be bull's for it but if it is just new then we would be bear because we don't even know if they would make it.
So it all comes down to the crypto that we would play because there are some who are good for a long term and others are for short term.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: dunfida on August 27, 2019, 10:39:00 PM
This was probably asked in more sense of "do you think bitcoin will go up or do you believe it will go down" and not really to specify everyone for good forever.

For example, I am a person who thinks bitcoin will go up in the long term but in short term it could do anything, like it could be 15k tomorrow or it could be 8k tomorrow and I wouldn't be surprised by any of it, however in 10 years from now I know it will be higher. That is why I pick the bulls group because I am a person who is long on bitcoin and bull on its price but if you take a look at it on more day trader approach than you will see that many bulls think it could be bear for a while in short term or vice versa with bears people thinking it could go up in short term. Not that there are many long term bears in crypto.
Well actually we could always making our own dichotomy...

a bull group supposed to be those people who loves making profit when the market is up
And
a bear group supposed to be the other way around or so.

But here we are..
I personally have a serious commitment since few years I do my bitcoin investment back in 2013/2014 that I will never cash xxx amount of bitcoin out at least for the next 20 years!
But I do actively trade in daily basis too , which group am I?  ;D
You are in between. ;D Same as mine where i do have some coins that do sit for long term and i do have coins used for daily basis.
So either both ways you can be a bull group or bear group.

So this question wont really have that precise answer because everyone of us do have different way on handling their holdings.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: shoreno on August 27, 2019, 11:41:05 PM
this question wont really have that precise answer because everyone of us do have different way on handling their holdings.

thats right anyone has thier own preference  . this is the goal of this thread and the op on why he is asking if what groups you belong   .  there is no right or wrong answers on here  .  some are on the bull group and some are on the bears group while others are on the both sides  ( just like you )   .  me i think im on the bear side because i sell coins every month or two  due some valid reasons  ( i have my debts/loans to be payed  )


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: leftgirly on August 27, 2019, 11:49:25 PM
Crypto investment is mostly on the long term unless in few occasions where you would see people who are in  for the bear market. I think am a bull since I hardly withdraw my funds from crypto unless am really broke and my fiat cannot suffice me.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: OnceTwiceThird on August 28, 2019, 03:20:15 AM
I like become part of BEAR'S GROUP because could make money with short time and we get profit without have floating, its safety for investor or bitcoin and altcoin trade.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: deisik on August 28, 2019, 06:42:43 AM
But I do actively trade in daily basis too , which group am I?

You are in a daily trader group, obviously

Daily traders and those who come close to them in terms of how much they trade can be both bulls and bears depending on the state of the market at the moment. If the market is down, it can be more profitable to be on the sell side of trade, i.e. to be a cautious bear. When the market turns around, you can change sides too along with it and now be an aggressive bull. Moreover, you can in fact be a bull and a bear at the same time even with the same coin. It is called hedging, so it is kind of neither here nor there


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: pieppiep on August 28, 2019, 11:24:25 AM
I am not sure if I belong to that group or not, but if the price of the coins I want to buy is down, I buy it for some amount. And if the price can increase 2x from the price I bought, I will sell it right away because I think after the price reaches the highest price, the price will be down for a moment. So maybe I belong in that both group, but I am following the situations at the market, and I am trying to take benefits from the situations for myself. But both in that group or not, as long as we can make a profit, then it doesn't matter at all.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: coin-investor on August 28, 2019, 04:06:59 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I'm 70% in the BULL'S GROUP because of history, tells us that if you are holding a good coin it's only a matter of time that you will have a good profit when the bull trend comes, I've done it putting money whenever I can when all the coins I've believe are almost on their floor price.

30% BEAR'S GROUP I cannot the fact that there are coins that are made for short term profit, some of these are on their crowdfunding stage like IEO or ICO.

if you know how to investment in the bear market and the bull market, you have a good chance of making a profit, yes it takes time and study but it's worth it.



Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: SquallLeonhart on August 28, 2019, 05:59:55 PM
It also depends on the currency we are talking about as well. For example I am a bear when it comes to dollar because I believe it will devalue even faster for the foreseeable future, there is absolutely nothing being done about improving the worth of dollar so it will get lower and lower from now on (inflation always existed but it will become faster). There was a running joke about how if we keep this up we will buy a gum for a million dollars, that won't be too long in the future, in 50-60 years that might become a reality.

Aside from that I am bear in many of the scam coins that is going around as well, people created millions of coins but none of them actually worth anything, they will become zero and go away. However when it comes to bitcoin and some good altcoins, I am bull about them.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Viscore on August 28, 2019, 11:36:32 PM
I am not sure if I belong to that group or not, but if the price of the coins I want to buy is down, I buy it for some amount. And if the price can increase 2x from the price I bought, I will sell it right away because I think after the price reaches the highest price, the price will be down for a moment. So maybe I belong in that both group, but I am following the situations at the market, and I am trying to take benefits from the situations for myself. But both in that group or not, as long as we can make a profit, then it doesn't matter at all.
Yes. It does not matter which group we belong as long as we know exactly how we can make profits with this volatile market. We can be in a bull group and at the same time in a bearish group because we are not making only one investment but more than that. One thing i believe is that as long as you are a good trader and an experienced one, you will eventually make profits whether you're in a long term or short term investment.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: robelneo on August 30, 2019, 01:31:11 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I'm in a group one, I believe, the market will get better eventually if you invest in the right coins in the market, I am more for a long term investment, although I also invest in a pump and dump coin but the profit is much higher if you invest long term in a good coin.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Ranly123 on September 01, 2019, 12:20:32 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I'm in a group one, I believe, the market will get better eventually if you invest in the right coins in the market, I am more for a long term investment, although I also invest in a pump and dump coin but the profit is much higher if you invest long term in a good coin.

I also prefer a long term investment which is a relaxed way of growing money in crypto. Nonetheless, holding too much does not always bring good fortune. So we should choose which coin is best for a long term and which is for a short term investment.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: dengpei on September 01, 2019, 01:21:57 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I am in either of the two groups, I view bitcoin as a transactional mode other than an investment avenue because of its high-risk status. It might make sense to a speculator in the game for a quick buck or someone/group with a long term strategy where they just buy and hold for a long term like the Winklevosses ;D


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: fiulpro on September 01, 2019, 05:17:33 PM
I think I belong to the Bull's one, trust me I haven't taken out money from the market yet.. I believe in long term investments till it's legal in the market .

The government is actually making it hard for the people like me to hold money in terms of bitcoins but still the fact that it's not centralized means we can expect some good things ... If we don't wanna take out money from the market then we won't ... We could just transfer overseas ...but still nothing better than banks helping us out ..in trading.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: FlamingFingers on September 02, 2019, 03:17:11 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
Based on your definition,  I'm Bull group, not that I haven't taken out money from the market,  but I seldomly take out money from the market, 

I'm in for the long term profits,  I've been accumulating just only bitcoin, and looking forward in trying to accumulate some good altcoins also,  I'm in for the tech and next revolution that bitcoin is gonna bring,  I'm not in it for the interest of making money alone,

Only if one could see the future price of bitcoin lots of investors will also think about the long term investment and not for quick bucks


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: lixer on September 03, 2019, 02:51:04 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
Based on your definition,  I'm Bull group, not that I haven't taken out money from the market,  but I seldomly take out money from the market, 

I'm in for the long term profits,  I've been accumulating just only bitcoin, and looking forward in trying to accumulate some good altcoins also,  I'm in for the tech and next revolution that bitcoin is gonna bring,  I'm not in it for the interest of making money alone,

Only if one could see the future price of bitcoin lots of investors will also think about the long term investment and not for quick bucks
I would not believe that there is any one in this crypto market that would say that he or she has never taken money out of the cryptocurrency market, and more so, trading activities is meant to be going on with the coin which requires you taking money in and out.

I think those who are usually always changing their coin to fiat after every bull run are the ones we can call the bears, because those ones purposely came for a short term trade and always crashes the market anytime it tried to rise up back to its usual position where is stop the last time it reaches all time high, like one of my friend said, by now, if not for these second group that I call  mini bears, I am sure we ought to have crossed over to $20k territory by now and already start looking at another one.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: lumierre on September 03, 2019, 07:00:35 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

Following the explanation of these definitions (as you give it here), I belong to two of these groups. I will explain: simply certain tokens are good for short positions, and they are perfect alts for day trading. At the same time, I believe that Bitcoin is going to gain all the time, and in 4-5 years it can cost hundreds of thousands if not more. Thus, I invest in it and become a hodler, belonging to the bull group.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: hahay on September 03, 2019, 07:15:33 PM
Following the explanation of these definitions (as you give it here), I belong to two of these groups. I will explain: simply certain tokens are good for short positions, and they are perfect alts for day trading. At the same time, I believe that Bitcoin is going to gain all the time, and in 4-5 years it can cost hundreds of thousands if not more. Thus, I invest in it and become a hodler, belonging to the bull group.
So I think most people will do both even though they are more focused on one group but at least they will do both because of the difference of each token and coin. Making you just one group about this I don't think is the best way because we should have at least some income in the near future.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: vintages on September 03, 2019, 07:22:16 PM
I see being part of the bull's group but I can't say I usually put more money constantly.
Instead I tend not to take out the ones I invest too often. Though few times, I tends to fall in bearish but in a lower percentage.
One problem I encounter as a bear is finding it difficult to buy back when the price is high.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: maxreish on September 26, 2019, 05:38:15 AM
I think it is not a proper way of calling it as a Bulls and Bear group. We can  instead call them as a long/short trader groups. Just as simple as that. And if you are asking me which group am I belong, well -both! Been doing long term investments to the major coins and  some short trades in bitmex and with the other altcoins. I prefer some long term trades, less hassle and really needs long patience before the target profits will gonna hit.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: xSkylarx on September 26, 2019, 09:46:01 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I'm a long term investor but I think I don't I belong into the bull's group. I just invested once 2 years ago and let it on my wallet until next year. I saw bitcoin when it was only 400$. I can't afford to always buy bitcoin with my current income so what I bought is only what I'll have in the future.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: bkbirge on September 26, 2019, 03:20:30 PM
Some interesting responses here. Seems mostly young people are the believers in crypto but they often don't have very much money if any to put toward investing. The older people tend not to believe in crypto and they have more money but are less likely to invest in crypto. Both generations are missing the opportunity, except for the minority that are young and able or old and inclined. I suspect if you invest now, even small amounts, you will be part of the wealthy elite in the coming decades.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Lizzylove1 on September 27, 2019, 03:24:54 PM
Your definition of a bull and a bear is person and not a real definition maybe you should have use "holder" or other technical language, one can be bullish and still go ahead and sell, while plotting a death trap graph for his followers.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: micher143 on September 28, 2019, 01:32:41 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
BEAR'S GROUP!! because my when I trade I am just doing  a minute-hour trades and taking the profit just like that, I am making an everyday trade because I think that is more profitable, but I have bitcoin savings for long term basis. but what I actually do is day trade. For me I feel balance but I enjoy my day trading.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: OnceTwiceThird on September 28, 2019, 02:18:23 PM
I want become bear's group where as fast to get profit without care for investing in long term, I don't care about price at the future will higher but getting profit every day is my destination.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: BitHodler on September 28, 2019, 10:39:35 PM
Some interesting responses here. Seems mostly young people are the believers in crypto but they often don't have very much money if any to put toward investing. The older people tend not to believe in crypto and they have more money but are less likely to invest in crypto.
Risk appetite is what matters here. Older people who worked hard to get where they are financially won't be taking unnecessary risks because there is close to no way for them to recoup their losses if so.

The younger generation is where risk doesn't seem to be an issue at all, not only because they have less to lose and it's easier for them to recoup losses, but they are more adventurous overall and take opportunities as they come.

I suspect if you invest now, even small amounts, you will be part of the wealthy elite in the coming decades.
I don't think so, unless you have millions to invest and see your investment do a 10x in the next 10 years. I'm not of believe that we can do another 100x or even 1000x as some people think is still possible where we are today.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: darkangel11 on September 28, 2019, 11:39:09 PM
I'm a permabull and a long term holder. When there's a bear market I go to sleep like the bears. I don't check the price and I don't participate in the forum . I don't trade the bear market and try to survive it somehow. In a bull market I come back to trading investing posting and participating in giveaways. I even gamble in a bull market because rising prices make me feel happy and alive and bear markets make me depressed.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Willitivity on September 29, 2019, 03:27:00 AM
Well, from the description, I basically belong in the 'Beaars Group'. But I am very bullish about the market. The market is so volatile so, sometimes I take out profits which is very necessary to avoid losing it. Am still  bullish on crypto making a rebound.






Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: xSkylarx on September 29, 2019, 04:09:50 AM
I'm a permabull and a long term holder. When there's a bear market I go to sleep like the bears. I don't check the price and I don't participate in the forum . I don't trade the bear market and try to survive it somehow. In a bull market I come back to trading investing posting and participating in giveaways. I even gamble in a bull market because rising prices make me feel happy and alive and bear markets make me depressed.

Only people who are willing to risk or who have plenty of buying power trades on bear market condition. Even on social media many crypto enthusiasts are silent and just observes how the market moves. But when there's a bull market many people are showing up showing their analyzation of the current market, even the moonboys are awaken from their deep sleep.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Ailmand on September 29, 2019, 04:21:35 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I am both at the same time. I earn crypto as my part time job and I also have a full time job. A portion of my salary goes to crypto for a long-term purpose and some of my earnings from crypto are sold for a short term purpose or trading.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: tonyvo2017 on September 29, 2019, 06:02:36 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I'm a bear group and I have no idea bull groups. because each person has their own choice and investment strategy. But from what I see, the crypto market is very volatile, sometimes we can win over 20% in a day. So why do we have to hold in the long run just to win tens of percent?
I always follow the trend of the crowd to make money because it is safe and reasonable, going against the community often has a lot of risks.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: marcuslong on September 29, 2019, 06:10:47 AM
I'm in a Bull's Group but  I'm not a long term investor, I always lose money in investing because when I need money, I always sell my crypto balance in low price even if I buy it at high price.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: sulendra12 on September 29, 2019, 06:18:00 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.
BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I'd rather do both, I mean if you are only sticking to one way and then you can lose the opportunity to earn something whether it's bull or bear. By doing both I think you could get something when either the market is bearing or bullish on that time.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Oasisman on September 29, 2019, 06:31:04 AM
I'm in a Bull's Group but  I'm not a long term investor, I always lose money in investing because when I need money, I always sell my crypto balance in low price even if I buy it at high price.

Wait, what? It seems like youre contradicting yourself here, base on how the OP define "Bulls Group". You cant be in the Bulls group if youre taking out money from the market more often. Thats a short term investment which happened to be a very poor decision by you, because youre not certain with how you manage your investment. Selling it in a lower price because you need money. No wonder why you always run out of money lol.

I think you should change your mindset in terms of managing your investment. You should set a goal where you can actually make a profit out of your invested capital, no matter how long it would take. Thats what I always do, I dont panic even the market is bleeding, because I know the market condition doesnt always favor the bearish trend. Might as well, Its safe to say I belong to the Bullish Group .
In your case, you should learn to make money without even touching your invested capital in the crypto market.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: cosmofly on September 29, 2019, 06:42:40 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I really like long-term investing because I know what takes time and patience. For such investment, I like to see the business I invest grow strongly every year, I don't like to crowd with people to buy cheap and sell at high prices in a moment. That made me feel tired and stressed because I always had to analyze the chart.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: marcuslong on September 29, 2019, 06:44:21 AM
I'm in a Bull's Group but  I'm not a long term investor, I always lose money in investing because when I need money, I always sell my crypto balance in low price even if I buy it at high price.

Wait, what? It seems like youre contradicting yourself here, base on how the OP define "Bulls Group". You cant be in the Bulls group if youre taking out money from the market more often. Thats a short term investment which happened to be a very poor decision by you, because youre not certain with how you manage your investment. Selling it in a lower price because you need money. No wonder why you always run out of money lol.

I think you should change your mindset in terms of managing your investment. You should set a goal where you can actually make a profit out of your invested capital, no matter how long it would take. Thats what I always do, I dont panic even the market is bleeding, because I know the market condition doesnt always favor the bearish trend. Might as well, Its safe to say I belong to the Bullish Group .
In your case, you should learn to make money without even touching your invested capital in the crypto market.

I mean my mindset is set as a long term investor like in Bull's group but when I need my money like few months ago I sell it at low price. But I learn from this mistakes, Next time I will invest in crypto I will not invest all I have so that when emergency happen I will not do the same mistakes again.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: teosanru on September 29, 2019, 06:53:34 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
You know what's the best group to be in? It's the oppotunist group you make money the way up and you also make money the way down. But you need to know a bit of trading for this because Markets are comprised of some big whales and manipulators who know how to play with feelings of masses. moreover what I have seen with my experience is that if you are in one those groups you will always end up losing or waiting. Because btc market doesn't stays in one phase for a long time which means reversal are a routine thing so if you will be on one side you will end. Up at breakeven or pretty low profits.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: trumpman on September 29, 2019, 06:55:36 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

Well, considering how I try to accumulate more and more with every means I can (buying, airdrops etc), I'd say i belong to bulls group if I was to use your definitions. I might take some to buy myself nice things here and there but that's it. I am in for the long game :)


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Oilacris on September 29, 2019, 07:06:08 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I really like long-term investing because I know what takes time and patience. For such investment, I like to see the business I invest grow strongly every year, I don't like to crowd with people to buy cheap and sell at high prices in a moment. That made me feel tired and stressed because I always had to analyze the chart.
You wont need to analyze charts if you are doing long term investments because it will just add up on the job and just stressing yourself.

If you can do both things like short and long term hodls then your choice but you should know on how to minimize risk as small as you can.
We are almost bullish people on here but we cant really avoid to have those bear minds.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Polo7 on September 29, 2019, 07:01:34 PM
50% Fiat.
50% btc


When Price Goes up i sell.
When Price Goes down i buy.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: kodtycoon on September 29, 2019, 10:26:21 PM
I'm in a Bull's Group but  I'm not a long term investor, I always lose money in investing because when I need money, I always sell my crypto balance in low price even if I buy it at high price.

that means you are in both groups, basically no one is really a permanent user in one group about this problem because we can't avoid panic buying and selling, even though in buying and selling there are certain purposes and objectives but at least every crypto users will place themselves in both groups


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: randegibran on September 30, 2019, 02:37:02 AM
Long term investor is my hobby because we can take profit above 100%, when bitcoin price still higher more higher profit we got not only from holding altcoin but also could be from bitcoin.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: coin-investor on September 30, 2019, 03:09:36 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I really like long-term investing because I know what takes time and patience. For such investment, I like to see the business I invest grow strongly every year, I don't like to crowd with people to buy cheap and sell at high prices in a moment. That made me feel tired and stressed because I always had to analyze the chart.

But there's always profit to be made doing that, I once tried that when I have big amount of money to invest, I note or record my entries or time that I bought a specific coin and record when I will sell those coins at the price where I deemed the right time to so.
But it's always constantly checking the prices and the risk is still there, you have to follow the movement and feedback about the coins you've invested so you'll know if you are going to cut your losses, or you'll wait and give more time to HODL it.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Vinalians on September 30, 2019, 03:12:34 AM
I will always be the long term investor though it is not in our favor this year but for sure in the near future, the value of BTC will come up and those who small time investors will regret they didn't follow us long term investors. I am glad that I am long investor but now, I am still waiting for the right timing. I still have enough money to buy some more.
Being long term investor for me is difficult but I am hoping that it is worth it.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: meliodas on September 30, 2019, 04:37:54 AM
I will always be the long term investor though it is not in our favor this year but for sure in the near future, the value of BTC will come up and those who small time investors will regret they didn't follow us long term investors. I am glad that I am long investor but now, I am still waiting for the right timing. I still have enough money to buy some more.
Being long term investor for me is difficult but I am hoping that it is worth it.
Most of us here are long term investor and we got rekt because last year was one of the worst year in crypto while this year there's not much recovery that we've seen. Hopefully we will get the price of our patience in the future, just like those early investors of BTC that never panic in selling their BTC despite there are times that BTC has struggled a lot, this is a challenge now for long term holder since its been almost 2 years that crypto is still bearish.
With the type of market, we don't have a choice but to be a long term holder for our cryptocurrencies. Even though the prices of the cryptocurrency that I got goes uptrend, I will still choose to be a long term investor because I believed on what I invest in and probably after 5-10 years of holding, I can easily say that I can retire because of the profit that I got from being patient.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: finzyoj on September 30, 2019, 04:45:56 AM
I also belong on the bullish group. It sounds good for our ears huh but the reality is it was very hard. It was very hard to be a hodler in a sense that you can't do anything to change the fate of your money because you will mainly depend on time. Unlike daytraders, we just wait over and over again until we met the high price wherein we can finally made a profit. That's why sometimes I understand those weak-hearted investors who suddenly sell their coins despite of the bearish market, not all of us can handle the pressure and frustration to see your money declinining :(.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: jmigdlc99 on September 30, 2019, 07:49:26 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

Talk about black and white!

I'm a BuLLear - always put money into the market (when crypto is in hype mode) but then also always take out part of the money whenever i suddenly need extra cash. So essentially it's like i'm slowly investing in crypto but at the same time using it as an emergency fund. I love how easy it is to stay liquid with crypto (even if some would argue its not).


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Harlot on September 30, 2019, 10:56:38 AM
I'm on neither side. You see if you want to take advantage of every situation you cannot really be part of one group and just do a certain trade based on what you like to happen you are personally limiting yourself in the opportunities you will have in the market and by doing so you are increasing your chances of accepting more losses compared to having all the options you have. If you really want to protect your capital you will be open to cutting losses, buying on break outs, and maybe shorting and not just the one that fits in a particular group.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: clarityfund on October 01, 2019, 12:37:36 PM
Im definitely in the BULLS group. I am expecting BTC to rise a lot higher than it is right now. Probably aiming for 1M$ and above


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: yazher on October 01, 2019, 01:23:38 PM
I belong to the Bear's Group at some point and mostly to the Bull's Group, I'll explain.
That is because some certain coins that I'm currently holding are not that high enough to hold for too long so when I think the price is high enough to sell that coins I will sell it as soon as possible. this is what I mean that I belong to the Bear's Group.

As for the Bull's group, it's exactly contrary to what I said at first I'm also holding a certain coin that I think will gonna make me rich in the near future. I will hold it until it becomes so expensive than its price today so the waiting period is about 5 years or more and this kind of holding that I do will let me belong to the Bull's Group. there you have it, I hope you understand my explanation.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: cryptoknightt on October 01, 2019, 04:59:21 PM
at this time I think the cryptocurrency group that has a purpose for pump and dump is not very important anymore because the price condition of cryptocurrency has been very difficult to predict so I chose not to be in any of the cryptocurrency groups so that I am not easily fooled.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: ShooterXD on October 01, 2019, 05:07:18 PM
Theoretically I am part of the two, because sometimes I need to follow the market to make a good profit.
But the main focus is always to apply more and keep buying bitcoin, and save it for posterity =D

I think the best choice is follow the market and keep your health


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: SummerBliss on October 01, 2019, 05:14:18 PM
I'm on neither side. You see if you want to take advantage of every situation you cannot really be part of one group and just do a certain trade based on what you like to happen you are personally limiting yourself in the opportunities you will have in the market and by doing so you are increasing your chances of accepting more losses compared to having all the options you have. If you really want to protect your capital you will be open to cutting losses, buying on break outs, and maybe shorting and not just the one that fits in a particular group.

Agreed. Trading is not black/white sort of thing. It is grey, you have to follow mix of different strategies. You can't stick to one plan and hope it works everytime. Crypto Market is highly dynamic, things change here at the fraction of time so there is no fun holding any coin for long. One has to take advantage of every market curve.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Faxmate on October 01, 2019, 09:39:03 PM
Theoretically I am part of the two, because sometimes I need to follow the market to make a good profit.
But the main focus is always to apply more and keep buying bitcoin, and save it for posterity =D

I think the best choice is follow the market and keep your health
That sounds like a perfect saving and beneficial plan. Indeed long term investors get the most out of bitcoin in terms of profit as compare to those who sell bitcoin whenever they see even a little rise. In order to be a long term investor, one not only needs to put his believe in bitcoin but also understand the future of money and the role digital currencies will play. Ultimately, both groups get money for sure.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: UstadSoleh on October 01, 2019, 11:36:09 PM
The two ways that you mention are part of the strategy that I use.
Long-term investments, in my opinion, are great to do.
Given that experience like the year 2017, it is able to generate many advantages.
But since 2018 many long-term investments experienced the dilemma as many coin selling prices declined.
Short-term trading is a great option for making a profit every day.
All very good to do only time and patience that makes you can make a profit.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: ene1980 on October 02, 2019, 02:27:59 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.
BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I am mostly into the smart group where i play according to the market situation rather than playing along any specific rules where i only invest or sell, i am in this market for a very long time and i invested some during that period and that gave me a fortune which helped me to diversify my investment further into the stock market as well and i am playing smart which means I am always a long term investor :P.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Fredomago on October 02, 2019, 02:45:33 AM
The two ways that you mention are part of the strategy that I use.
Long-term investments, in my opinion, are great to do.
Given that experience like the year 2017, it is able to generate many advantages.
But since 2018 many long-term investments experienced the dilemma as many coin selling prices declined.
Short-term trading is a great option for making a profit every day.
All very good to do only time and patience that makes you can make a profit.
Dividing your strategy from both ends allows you to generate decent profit. Choose solid projects for long-term investment then combine it with moving coins that you can sort for short-term or day-trade investment. You should have a good practice and a good setup of system that's able to differentiate these two types of investment process. Also a plus factor if you have the patience so you can apply the right attitude when you place your entry position both for short and long-term assets and stick with how you understand the system that you've created along the way.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: ajaymukund on October 02, 2019, 03:03:39 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
Maybe I'm the Bull type. I had read about Warren Buffett before and really liked his thinking about long-term investing. he invests in the people and economic advantages of some businesses. so I like that and I decided to invest in some coins that have good economic advantage and are being fomo. such as Ethereum and Bitcoin2.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: timerland on October 02, 2019, 07:06:36 AM
There doesn't always need to be a group that you are a part off, the smart investor will know what time it is to be a bull, and what time it is to be a bear.

I personally haven't been a fan of investing in BTC in recent years, we haven't really seen a lot of movement, it's mostly been small price bumps, up or down.

Although, if I was to choose what group I reside in I'd pick the bulls.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: meliodas on October 02, 2019, 08:23:11 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I think i have this two options because i do also a short term but i am not selling my coins if i saw that i lose the price and at the same time i also love long term trading because i can freely choose what price do i have to sell my coins.
I agree, I also do both, some of my money I placed to market and just let it stay there and some are put in the market but sell it when i see that the price of it was increasing. Honestly for me it is much better to do the long term investment because I believe that I can profit more from it.

Anticipation on the market condition is the best way earn. Regardless of pumping or dumping you had something to do to make money whatever the situation is. I am a holder too when the market drops I will bought a little and wait until I make a profit of 20% which I really need to wait for a long run to achieve that numbers.
I would suggest to you to start doing some exploration in buying and selling cryptocurrency because that 20% target of profit is not that hard to achieve in a couple of weeks of trading. It is better for you to trade rather than just wait for the value to be in your favor. Try different things because that is how you will discover your passion.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: FanEagle on October 02, 2019, 10:58:52 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I'm a long term investor but I think I don't I belong into the bull's group. I just invested once 2 years ago and let it on my wallet until next year. I saw bitcoin when it was only 400$. I can't afford to always buy bitcoin with my current income so what I bought is only what I'll have in the future.
Since you don't often move your coin, I would say that you still belong to the group of the bulls, the money might look small to you, but the fact that you are still holding it up in the market has made bitcoin to retain the value that it has not, imagine that 1 million people have that $400, and then decide to pull it out of the market, do you know what will happen to the price of bitcoin, it will definitely crash, but for the cash that you and many other people who believes in the future of bitcoin still have their money there, you have helped by not  allowing the price of bitcoin to zero which is why I will also count you and myself as part of the bulls, but we can also belong to the both though, like now, I don't care if someone calls me the bear, all I know is that I am using the coin to trade and cashing out all my profit which I think that I deserve.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on October 06, 2019, 09:01:26 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I do all of this because 50% of my capital goes to bulls group and 50% goes to bears group. I usualy do this to all of my investments just to make sure that if the coins have in my wallet will pump i still have it.
This will be the safest investment (tho there is no actually safe investment, this is just to lessen the risk of losing it all at once), I'd rather not put all of my investment in one place. It's best to split it in a long term and also for the day trading to make your money circulate from time to time. Having these done will not put your money to sleep, because you are keeping an eye on it all the time. A wise investor wont put all investment in one basket, every investor should make it as a habit.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: xSkylarx on October 06, 2019, 11:58:49 AM
I am considering myself as a bull but if I need some urgent money, I withdraw minimum amount that helps me. But I am not happy about this and looking forward to have additional sources of incomes. I will probably regret all the withdraws in the near future.

Almost everyone is in the bull's group but never knows when they should sell. They believe in some speculation of a bigger price after a pump. Even if they are already in profit they are too greedy wanting to have more. Until for a long time they hodl at loss waiting again for a pump.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Zeke_23 on October 06, 2019, 03:51:08 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I do all of this because 50% of my capital goes to bulls group and 50% goes to bears group. I usualy do this to all of my investments just to make sure that if the coins have in my wallet will pump i still have it.
This will be the safest investment (tho there is no actually safe investment, this is just to lessen the risk of losing it all at once), I'd rather not put all of my investment in one place. It's best to split it in a long term and also for the day trading to make your money circulate from time to time. Having these done will not put your money to sleep, because you are keeping an eye on it all the time. A wise investor wont put all investment in one basket, every investor should make it as a habit.
Diversifying your money is a good strategy but if you will just diversify to invest it in day trading then it is not a good idea because you will probably face a high risk type of source of income or an investment. It is better for you to stick to long term investment and just diversify your money into different good coins in the market for better investment sustainability.
Having long term investment with different kind of crypto currency will give you more opportunity to make a profit than doing day trading. It is very risky if you do not have enough knowledge and experience. Its possible to lose half of your investment, and it will result to eagerness to get your investment back by using your remaining investment.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: serjent05 on October 06, 2019, 05:09:11 PM
Perma bull here, the image of increasing adoption and Bitcoin reward halving is the reason why I always think Bitcoin will definitely go up.  I know there are hiccups along the road but nevertheless that law of supply and demand has never been broken and always show the true effect even though it maybe hindred from time to time.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: cotton ball on October 12, 2019, 05:53:44 AM
Just belong with how faster get much profit with bitcoin and altcoin trading, what have waste much time with investing without get much profit, only take profit very soon for me is first on my mind, I will sell if price higher although little because holder is not profitable with us, we have keep money with altcoin without can raise to higher price and waiting very long time.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Google+ on October 12, 2019, 07:01:46 AM
for the moment I am not too concerned about wanting to join any chat group because I see many chat groups that actually make a lot of people stuck at expensive prices because cryptocurrency groups are usually many who try to influence the price of cryptocurrency by writing bad news or good news on chat with the aim that many traders panic.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: ajqjjj on October 12, 2019, 09:39:02 AM
for the moment I am not too concerned about wanting to join any chat group because I see many chat groups that actually make a lot of people stuck at expensive prices because cryptocurrency groups are usually many who try to influence the price of cryptocurrency by writing bad news or good news on chat with the aim that many traders panic.
Nowadays all the chat groups are make panic so most of the margin traders and beginners are hard to survive, But it is helpful for most of the time so chat groups are important to join all the traders. May be few only disappointed the chat groups and many traders are said it was useful. So we can accept and gain the knowledge of chat groups it make positive response.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Genemind on October 12, 2019, 02:00:43 PM
I could join two groups depending on the coin that I have. I do sell coins which don't have strong potential and I would hold top coins which are good for long term investment. There are coins which are good for a long term holding just like Btc and Eth while there are also altcoins which are only good for day trading. It all depends on the coins that were holding and how we deal with the market situation.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: ReiMomo on October 12, 2019, 02:19:05 PM
Of course, I ama belong into a bull group, I did not sell my bitcoin nor convert into altcoins. I prefer to hold and accumulate dif there is a fund that I can afford to invest in the long term. In this strategy, you can also help the bearish the market to become bull because of accumulating and investing bitcoin. Even whales there's nothing they can do if they will belong to bull group.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: gabbie2010 on October 12, 2019, 03:31:34 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I am more of a BEAR group I do read the chart and analyze those cryptos pairs with daily high volume and market capitalization using the candlesticks patterns and Price Action to determine the most appropriate time to buy and sell using stop loss and take profit I also have some portion for long term hodling ie not taking those coin often thus meant for a long term investment.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: iMark on October 12, 2019, 03:40:32 PM
I am considering myself as a bull but if I need some urgent money, I withdraw minimum amount that helps me. But I am not happy about this and looking forward to have additional sources of incomes. I will probably regret all the withdraws in the near future.

Almost everyone is in the bull's group but never knows when they should sell. They believe in some speculation of a bigger price after a pump. Even if they are already in profit they are too greedy wanting to have more. Until for a long time they hodl at loss waiting again for a pump.
how do you know most people are in the bull's group? not everyone is a long term investor dude, instead I know traders more than long term investors. And I think the long term investment is not wrong if they want a much higher price, because their commitment is long term. if what you mean is to sell every pump prices happen then you can be classified as a short-term investor or bear's group. in my opinion long term investors or bulls groups are those who wait patiently for several years and take high profits in that long term period.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: ecnalubma on October 13, 2019, 03:58:53 AM
I consider myself belong to both, It really depend on situation and sometimes I my shift decisions and strategy. I'm just being practical specially that this market is far way from traditional one. I learn a lesson from the previous bull run, some decisions are really regretful and I could have done it right I when I know how to analyse things.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Apes on October 13, 2019, 04:13:42 AM
I choose neither of them, I don't make routine investments and I withdraw investments whenever I want, because my investment or withdrawal is not fixed on the buying or selling value. I use crypto for savings, not for chasing profits, I will sell when I need money.
perhaps there are others people like me, who make investments like this.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 13, 2019, 05:03:21 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I am more like a mix of these two. I would call myself as a long-term investor, but every now and then I sell some of my coins to cover my monthly expenses (and also to diversify my portfolio a bit). I first entered the world of cryptocurrency in 2012. Back then, the price was around $10 per coin. I sold many of my coins (around 70%) in 2015, when I was facing some financial issues. I no longer do mass selloffs like that one, but I still sell around 0.05 BTC every month. If I want, I could avoid that, but right now 70% of my portfolio is made up of cryptocurrency and I don't really like that. I want to reduce the proportion of crypto to around 50% level.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: kayvie on October 13, 2019, 05:36:31 AM
I am considering myself as a bull but if I need some urgent money, I withdraw minimum amount that helps me. But I am not happy about this and looking forward to have additional sources of incomes. I will probably regret all the withdraws in the near future.

Almost everyone is in the bull's group but never knows when they should sell. They believe in some speculation of a bigger price after a pump. Even if they are already in profit they are too greedy wanting to have more. Until for a long time they hodl at loss waiting again for a pump.
how do you know most people are in the bull's group? not everyone is a long term investor dude, instead I know traders more than long term investors. And I think the long term investment is not wrong if they want a much higher price, because their commitment is long term. if what you mean is to sell every pump prices happen then you can be classified as a short-term investor or bear's group. in my opinion long term investors or bulls groups are those who wait patiently for several years and take high profits in that long term period.
Most of investors are considering both bull and bear investors. Anytime the price of cryptocurrency can increase, and you can be considered in any of these type depends on what price you sell your investment. Both type of investor is profitable as long as an investor will take care of its movement. Most of them are really careful and takes more months to hold their investment before selling it.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: jostorres on October 14, 2019, 11:30:24 AM
Just belong with how faster get much profit with bitcoin and altcoin trading, what have waste much time with investing without get much profit, only take profit very soon for me is first on my mind, I will sell if price higher although little because holder is not profitable with us, we have keep money with altcoin without can raise to higher price and waiting very long time.
There are some altcoin investments that I would rather belong to the group of the bears than to be counted as bulls because with altcoins, people need to be very smart and calculative. Most altcoin are very good to invest in for a short term and when we see the profit, we quickly pull out, there is no point staying with the project since they cannot be very much reliable.

I think the coin that we can still continue to invest in alone is the bitcoin, which is what I can say I am proud to be counted as bulls because I think ever since I invested in bitcoin since it crashed from $19800 and bottomed, I have never for once withdrawn from it, except from another wallet which the bitcoin I have there is for transaction and not for investment, but I think for investment, I am a full bull.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: TrevorS on October 14, 2019, 11:51:40 AM
I can’t attribute myself to any particular group. Rather, I relate a little to bears and bulls. When I need money, I take it from the market, it is desirable that they already bring some kind of profit.
And vice versa, all the free funds I invest mainly in bitcoin, and some altcoins. Although I certainly would like the market to be entirely bullish, I would gladly invest even more in it.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Xxmodded on October 15, 2019, 02:47:22 PM
BULL'S GROUP and BEAR'S GROUP have the same way to earn profit with bitcoin investment, just different way with how long you want to get profit with your investing, maybe Bull's group better for long term investment with higher profit, Bear's group become short term how to earn profit with bitcoin and altcoin investment. You can take one or both term investment if you can control your investment money with both way.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: shield132 on October 15, 2019, 04:44:55 PM
Bull's and Bear's group, haha, well it's maybe interesting to know which group our users belong to but at the same time it's interesting to know which one benefits bitcoin and crypto world.
For example let's start from first one: What they do? Only hold and hold for long term, what's benefit from them? Nothing, but benefit for them? Huge. Money has to be in circulation in order to develop, especially us at first. So hodlers make everything worse in this situation, they freeze money which can be used for a lot of things.
But now let's talk about second one - Bear's group. What's benefit from them? Usually they are the ones who decide bitcoin's price because of their daily activity, that benefits bitcoin community in overall and hodlers too but daily trading is very risky because you can't always catch good moments.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: carlfebz2 on October 15, 2019, 04:48:48 PM
BULL'S GROUP and BEAR'S GROUP have the same way to earn profit with bitcoin investment, just different way with how long you want to get profit with your investing, maybe Bull's group better for long term investment with higher profit, Bear's group become short term how to earn profit with bitcoin and altcoin investment. You can take one or both term investment if you can control your investment money with both way.
Which simply means that you can be either on that way where you can hold up some coins for long term then goes short for some daily income or short term profits.It will just vary on how you do trade because profitability wont really have specific time before you would able to hit the right spot.Neither way you can make money it will just depend on you.
Answering up the question then im a bull and a bear one because i can ride up with the flow of this market.Pumping or dumping it doesnt matter.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: EdvinZ on October 16, 2019, 05:26:03 AM
I think that every small investor adjusts to the market situation. Sometimes he can be on the side of the bulls, but if the market falls, it goes to the side of the bears. This is a market, it does not spare anyone, survive those who have a flexible approach and are able to adapt to the situation.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: carriebee on October 16, 2019, 06:47:45 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
Of course I'm in bull's group because even the market is bearish I'm still positive to what I invest in the market. I'm not hurry to my profit as long I know what the benefit I will get to cryptocurrency I have I will hodl it. Always grab the opportunity in the market as long you can manage well your investment it will grow even the market is on down season.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Inkdatar on October 16, 2019, 08:00:42 AM
I think that every small investor adjusts to the market situation. Sometimes he can be on the side of the bulls, but if the market falls, it goes to the side of the bears. This is a market, it does not spare anyone, survive those who have a flexible approach and are able to adapt to the situation.
We can be in a bull and bear’s groups, the market is volatile and we can fit into the market condition. True, as long you can manage the market level we can seize the opportunity of taking profit. Just control your emotions towards the market when trading.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Jating on October 16, 2019, 08:30:30 AM
You can't really tell that a bull or a bear will stay on that group forever. Because this is one way to lose money here. Wise speculators knows how to adjust their trading strategy, of course we all wanted to be bulls here, but remember that the price won't go on a parabolic rise. At certain point the bubble that forms are going to be burst.

BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
So I will tell that I'm not neither, I just react to the market situations and what it can bring to me to make money in either bulls/bears scenario.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: darthmaul on October 16, 2019, 08:37:36 AM
I think one can never be a complete bull or bear. Bear too once invested all the money in market which is why he is taking money out now. While bull also will take money out from market one day. SO this definition is wrong I think bear Trades on short side while bull does on long side.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: alyssa85 on October 16, 2019, 09:05:19 AM
There is a third group of people. They arn't bulls or bears, but have embraced crypto as a source of income. So they earn their income from crypto and they sell crypto to pay bills, and are treating it as a real currency. This group would like there to be less volatility and more of a steady price.

One of the saddest developments in the last five years is cryptocurrency being seen as a purely speculative asset.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: familiaverde on October 16, 2019, 09:39:37 AM
I belong to the bulls group I dont think anyone who has invested in bitcoin can ever go into that bear group. Being in bear group is a very negative thinking as in long term falling prices can never help anyone so it doesn't makes sense to be on the bear side. Bulls always win in long term.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Oneandpure on October 16, 2019, 12:01:35 PM
Belong with BEAR'S GROUP I thin interested with get much profit while short time, many investor want to get profit as soon possible without less risk when altcoin price back down, with BEAR'S GROUP we can make profit very soon without have waiting bull group's with hold for long term, but both option have the same thing to make profit although just little different way.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: CarnagexD on October 16, 2019, 04:16:31 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
Maybe I belong to the group of bull's which I prefer to put all my in different investments then I will do the long term investment. Long term investment will totally help you to gain better income but, if you want to do this kind of investment you should have a lot of patience because it totally takes time to earn huge and better income. But, it still depends on the person who will invest but, if you going to invest in top rank cryptocurrencies you should the long term investment.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: doomistake on October 16, 2019, 04:48:43 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I'm both, I put the money in the market if I feel it is necessary to do so, to earn profits, and I take it our whenever I feel I have to, you can't be either of two if you want profits, you have to be both. I always trust my instinct and my own analysis, just my opinion.

do what you feel you'll be benefit the most :)


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: TrevorS on October 16, 2019, 08:15:05 PM
I think the real bears present on this forum can only be traders. All the rest, one way or another, probably would like to earn and increase the amount of funds in the bull market.
Because it is simpler and safer. The current bear market is a heap of manipulations.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Bezobraznike on October 17, 2019, 05:45:31 AM
There is a third group of people. They arn't bulls or bears, but have embraced crypto as a source of income. So they earn their income from crypto and they sell crypto to pay bills, and are treating it as a real currency. This group would like there to be less volatility and more of a steady price.

One of the saddest developments in the last five years is cryptocurrency being seen as a purely speculative asset.

   Bears and bulls are speculators, your suggestion Alyssa85 is about people
who earn crypto-currencies and they spend it, without any speculations. But
there are people like me who invest in long-term, without paying attention on
the current price, manipulations. We invest in the future, cause we believe
crypto-currencies are the future.
   No need for trading, spending crypto-currencies, it's like saving, when I have
some extra money I buy it and put it on a side for future.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: ReiMomo on October 17, 2019, 06:36:20 PM
I think the real bears present on this forum can only be traders. All the rest, one way or another, probably would like to earn and increase the amount of funds in the bull market.
Because it is simpler and safer. The current bear market is a heap of manipulations.
This time since I have a capital I think I belong to bear's group since I always take out money and investing in crypto market often so that I can have money to spend on my daily to invest in crypto and also I'm interested in making money in a short period of time but if I can have more capital I would like to invest for a long term. Just like what happens now, for me it is the right time to invest while Bitcoin is in a bear situation and after a month we can go in bull run situation.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Xxmodded on October 18, 2019, 04:46:24 AM
I guess by your definition I'm a bull. Always putting in but not taking out. The taking out will be done by my kids I'm guessing. Whether they have anything to take out or not is a giant unknown. So maybe I'm a grouchy bull.
I will only take profit with investment with both way bull and bear group I think both this way give profit, for faster way get profit is better than we have hold for long time, maybe I will allow bear's group if price down and have big chance to get profit for long term, you can get profit with bull's group because is faster.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: smyslov on October 18, 2019, 06:36:14 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I do both of these, I put money on some coins for long term investment and I also take out money more often in a short period of time when I realized that I already made money from these coins, some investors can do both because some coins are made for short term and some for long term you cannot just concentrate on one group alone, because there are profit to be made on both method.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Aying on October 18, 2019, 06:50:59 AM
I literally choose bear's group but not in negative way. I am a shorterm investor. I am not a huge risk taker, it is fine to invest what I carry to lost. in this field there are so many groups that you'll belong and your investments are not just playing a games that you can revive your funds. It is a common way to learn thing from the very beginning but let yourself improve and choose one of that groups of method to earn a lot.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: nasipadang on October 18, 2019, 07:37:21 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
You want to express some opinions about the condition of the cryptocurrency market ? I think I'm in both, according to the moving market, right now I'm in the bull group because I believe in halving. But if in conditions and cases last year, I was in a bear group. Depends on the conditions which are favorable for me.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: yulionoo on October 19, 2019, 01:56:48 AM
maybe I belong to the bull group. because I only have the top coins like bitcoin, ethereum and ripple. and I will sell the coins when they have experienced a 50% increase. This is called a long-term investment because the coins usually take quite a long time to pump. I prefer to make long-term investments rather than short-term investments. because short-term investment is very time-consuming, we must always look and check prices every time, it makes me tired.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: supercanada1 on October 19, 2019, 02:01:13 AM
I guess by your definition I'm a bull. Always putting in but not taking out. The taking out will be done by my kids I'm guessing. Whether they have anything to take out or not is a giant unknown. So maybe I'm a grouchy bull.
I will only take profit with investment with both way bull and bear group I think both this way give profit, for faster way get profit is better than we have hold for long time, maybe I will allow bear's group if price down and have big chance to get profit for long term, you can get profit with bull's group because is faster.
No matter which group you belong to as long as you are making profit, it is fine to be a bull or bear. However, this is the fact that bears can make more profit than bulls if they have good understanding of how to play the market. Moreover, in the beginning a person should be a long term investor because for earning money in short periods, one needs to have good experience with crypto currencies.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: BennyK on October 19, 2019, 03:16:08 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
In fact, how can you make profit and withdraw without first inputting something. We're all in the bull group by inputting or investing our money or other resources into projects or coins and later withdrawing to make profit when we see deem fit. The fact is, some investors are short term ones whereas others are long term. Others are also swift with their withdrawals and never hesitate to withdraw.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Oneandpure on October 19, 2019, 03:38:05 AM
I guess by your definition I'm a bull. Always putting in but not taking out. The taking out will be done by my kids I'm guessing. Whether they have anything to take out or not is a giant unknown. So maybe I'm a grouchy bull.
I will only take profit with investment with both way bull and bear group I think both this way give profit, for faster way get profit is better than we have hold for long time, maybe I will allow bear's group if price down and have big chance to get profit for long term, you can get profit with bull's group because is faster.
No matter which group you belong to as long as you are making profit, it is fine to be a bull or bear. However, this is the fact that bears can make more profit than bulls if they have good understanding of how to play the market. Moreover, in the beginning a person should be a long term investor because for earning money in short periods, one needs to have good experience with crypto currencies.
No matter which one group will be if consist get profit with bitcoin and altcoin investment, many investor look interested with investing in bitcoin by long term target where they have save bitcoin with lower price on 2015 where bitcoin under $200, maybe they will get the same moment to hold bitcoin with long term way where can earn much profit for bitcoin price at the future.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: meliodas on October 19, 2019, 03:46:25 AM
I guess by your definition I'm a bull. Always putting in but not taking out. The taking out will be done by my kids I'm guessing. Whether they have anything to take out or not is a giant unknown. So maybe I'm a grouchy bull.
I will only take profit with investment with both way bull and bear group I think both this way give profit, for faster way get profit is better than we have hold for long time, maybe I will allow bear's group if price down and have big chance to get profit for long term, you can get profit with bull's group because is faster.
No matter which group you belong to as long as you are making profit, it is fine to be a bull or bear. However, this is the fact that bears can make more profit than bulls if they have good understanding of how to play the market. Moreover, in the beginning a person should be a long term investor because for earning money in short periods, one needs to have good experience with crypto currencies.
The trader makes the most money in the market not the long term investor in my opinion. Traders are the one who can easily find an opportunity in every market price movement and they can make profit out of that by just trading from the volatility that the market offers. Long term investor is kinda like for the people who don't want to stress themselves out from the volatility of cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: supercanada1 on October 21, 2019, 01:50:57 AM
I guess by your definition I'm a bull. Always putting in but not taking out. The taking out will be done by my kids I'm guessing. Whether they have anything to take out or not is a giant unknown. So maybe I'm a grouchy bull.
I will only take profit with investment with both way bull and bear group I think both this way give profit, for faster way get profit is better than we have hold for long time, maybe I will allow bear's group if price down and have big chance to get profit for long term, you can get profit with bull's group because is faster.
No matter which group you belong to as long as you are making profit, it is fine to be a bull or bear. However, this is the fact that bears can make more profit than bulls if they have good understanding of how to play the market. Moreover, in the beginning a person should be a long term investor because for earning money in short periods, one needs to have good experience with crypto currencies.
The trader makes the most money in the market not the long term investor in my opinion. Traders are the one who can easily find an opportunity in every market price movement and they can make profit out of that by just trading from the volatility that the market offers. Long term investor is kinda like for the people who don't want to stress themselves out from the volatility of cryptocurrency.
Indeed trading is far beneficial than simple holding. With the volatility that bitcoin offers, a trader has more chances of getting rich than a long term investor but both have their own pros and cons. Trading is a risky profession or you can say a bit difficult and tricky one. In order to succeed in it, one must have very firm knowledge of asset he is trading into and that asset also needs to be bitcoin.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Xxmodded on October 21, 2019, 03:20:18 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
Either way because I do have long term goals and short term ones which means I can do both things.

Theres no specific person would opt in on sticking one sided.Majority would really done things accordingly specially if they do saw money making opportunity.
As a long term investor,if you do see that you are profiting with a certain coin, would you let it pass? For sure you will consider on selling it up.
Short while very interested looking money with bitcoin and altcoin investing, we less risk investment assets down price because just waiting one day to sell coin, if price dump cut lost without have lost all assets, every day we know with profit if use short term way to invest money with bitcoin and altcoin, faced with long term very big risk with altcoin some time delist from exchange market.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: BennyK on October 21, 2019, 03:31:12 AM
I think that every small investor adjusts to the market situation. Sometimes he can be on the side of the bulls, but if the market falls, it goes to the side of the bears. This is a market, it does not spare anyone, survive those who have a flexible approach and are able to adapt to the situation.
Adaption is one of the best skills that every investor whether long term or short term must acquire in order to maximize the profit making margin. This is because adapting to the current market trend means, the investors takes time to study the market, make the necessary analysis based on the current situation and come up with the decision on which coins, when to invest, how long to hold and when to sell to make profit.


Title: Bulls and bears, or foxes and squirrels.
Post by: Jet Cash on October 21, 2019, 09:03:25 AM
Bulls and bears are short term speculators. I'm more interested in the foxes and squirrels. I tend to think of myself as a fox, but in reality I'm probably just a simple squirrel.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: DaveWave on October 21, 2019, 09:28:54 AM
I always wanted bitcoin in the bullish side, even if I am in a situation that I don't have bitcoins. Because I have no problems buying them at an expensive price knowing it will continue to move upwards. And I dislike companies that offers leveraging like Bitmex. They the reasons traders can short bitcoin. :(


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: meliodas on October 21, 2019, 11:18:55 AM
I always wanted bitcoin in the bullish side, even if I am in a situation that I don't have bitcoins. Because I have no problems buying them at an expensive price knowing it will continue to move upwards. And I dislike companies that offers leveraging like Bitmex. They the reasons traders can short bitcoin. :(
I don't think that there is a concrete reason to hate trading platforms like Bitmex and other exchanges that offers leverage because they are helpful to traders and if you want to make money like the other margin traders then you should learn to become better in technical analysis because that is their secret to their success.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: coin-local20 on October 21, 2019, 02:31:17 PM
depends on the definition of what is the meaning by bull and bear, i think i will choose bear.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: ivakar on October 21, 2019, 02:47:21 PM
i'm russian, that mean I'm a bear  ;D
regarding your question, I guess market situation means a lot! same person can be bull or bear depending on the market I think
also the source of the money can  matter, if you need to return some loan, you'll target shorts, right?  ::)


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: riso2015 on October 21, 2019, 03:08:45 PM
I am included in point No. 2, Yes I prefer to look for profits in the short term because I always have enough free time so that I can always control market conditions. I think being a short-term trader can provide an instant profits than a long-term investment.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: dioanna on October 21, 2019, 03:13:12 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I can say that I am a crazy long term holder, and I really regret it especially last 2017 Bullrun
 I have alts from airdrops that already had value before but did not sell now its a garbage in my wallet.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Meowth05 on October 21, 2019, 03:27:59 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I think it is better not to stick to a certain group. It's much better if we learn to adjust what the trend is. Bull and Bears have their own advantages and disadvantage, for instance, in the bull market, the best option to do is to sell since the market is high on the other hand bear market is a better time to buy cheap coins. Basically, what I am saying is that alteration is the key to having a better income.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: yulchatar on October 21, 2019, 06:56:40 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I can say that I am a crazy long term holder, and I really regret it especially last 2017 Bullrun
 I have alts from airdrops that already had value before but did not sell now its a garbage in my wallet.

I have exactly the same situation. Unfortunately, I missed the right time to sell some tokens and coins at a good price due to the chosen long-term investment strategy. Then it was necessary to trade, now I understand this. But still I use two strategies.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: RapTarX on October 22, 2019, 04:51:58 AM
I'm none of these. I have been collecting some of my service payment with bitcoin and saving little from these. Apart from this, I barely have purchased BTC, once in a month or two.
Most people holding BTC are short term investors. Long term investors are holding btc from a long time.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: EdvinZ on October 22, 2019, 09:00:31 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I can say that I am a crazy long term holder, and I really regret it especially last 2017 Bullrun
 I have alts from airdrops that already had value before but did not sell now its a garbage in my wallet.

I have exactly the same situation. Unfortunately, I missed the right time to sell some tokens and coins at a good price due to the chosen long-term investment strategy. Then it was necessary to trade, now I understand this. But still I use two strategies.
It's called “ buy experience.” Experienced investors say that the assets should be sold when the sale price is already comfortable with you. And wait for the X50, for example, is in my opinion stupid. There is such a saying-better a small bird in the hands of, then mountain eagle in the sky. That is, it is better to have a small profit for real than to have a hypothetical profit, which may not be.


Title: Re: Bulls and bears, or foxes and squirrels.
Post by: BennyK on October 22, 2019, 10:22:29 AM
Bulls and bears are short term speculators. I'm more interested in the foxes and squirrels. I tend to think of myself as a fox, but in reality I'm probably just a simple squirrel.

Perhaps I need to read more into the behaviors of both foxes and squirrels in order to liken them to cryptocurrency strategies. Anyway, being a bull or bear depends on the investors goals and how he intends to achieve them. This is where is becomes necessary to act smart and work hard towards achieving the goals.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: erickastella on October 22, 2019, 12:21:06 PM
I choose both
because it was challenging for me, but I had a reason for choosing both,
1. if I suddenly need money I will use the short term because it is faster to make money despite the high risk.
2. Long term, I will invest my money in some good long-term altcoin / coins and of course I see market conditions, good and bad news so I know the condition of altcoin before I buy  ;D


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: cotton ball on October 22, 2019, 12:33:07 PM
I think that every small investor adjusts to the market situation. Sometimes he can be on the side of the bulls, but if the market falls, it goes to the side of the bears. This is a market, it does not spare anyone, survive those who have a flexible approach and are able to adapt to the situation.
With market price situation many investor become watcher and lovely to wait when bitcoin or altcoin price back to higher price. Very risk if invest with bitcoin or altcoin right now because not have good news about bitcoin will adopt by many countries, bitcoin still look hard for raising to higher price with many cases faced by investor afraid if bitcoin hacked cases again.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Peashooter on October 22, 2019, 04:02:00 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I am probably belong the the Bull's group in which I most prefer to just stored my coins and tokens to my wallet and wait for the right time in which I can sold it when the price of my coins and tokens pump up. This probably is one of the longest waiting that we the crypto people are waiting for and this is the bull run. Why I prefer long-term investments? Simply because long term investments will filled up the losses that we are getting into.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: jrrsparkles on October 22, 2019, 05:00:39 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I am probably belong the the Bull's group in which I most prefer to just stored my coins and tokens to my wallet and wait for the right time in which I can sold it when the price of my coins and tokens pump up. This probably is one of the longest waiting that we the crypto people are waiting for and this is the bull run. Why I prefer long-term investments? Simply because long term investments will filled up the losses that we are getting into.
I guess here people talking about coin like bitcoin so if you are storing tokens in very long term then you will be seeing no value for them in five years later so don't be just stupid,its not about the time period its about making profits in long or short term.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: mazdafunsun on October 22, 2019, 05:49:04 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

You are not giving a fair choice. a BULL is not always putting money in, it is someone who is putting money in periods when he or she believes it si time to do it and taking profits in periods when he or she believes it is time to do so.

In in any case , with your notation I am more an a bear nowadays .


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: White Christmas on October 23, 2019, 12:21:24 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
Right now on the current situation of the market, I am on the Bears side that is taking out already the money when I've got already my desired income. I prefer the making of money in a very short period of time, it is more profitable than waiting a long period of time to take the money, and there is no assurance that it will grow big so I am taking the money if I think it is good enough for me. Anyway I am on the side of the Bear's group.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: clickerz on October 23, 2019, 03:16:53 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

You are not giving a fair choice. a BULL is not always putting money in, it is someone who is putting money in periods when he or she believes it si time to do it and taking profits in periods when he or she believes it is time to do so.

In in any case , with your notation I am more an a bear nowadays .

Indeed, you cannot classify a person whether bull group or bears group here. It depends on the situation and most are going with flow.If there are more bearish sentiments then its bearish and its profit taking or cutting losses and same with bullish. Most people are trading for a profit and its a fact.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: jakoylantern on October 23, 2019, 03:34:26 PM
For me, I belong to both groups because it depends on my calculation and to the cryptos that I trade. I have some cryptos that I planned/calculated to make it a long term investment, and I vice versa. The reason is the limited analysis that I can do because I'm not a full-time trader. Also, I have some various cryptocurrencies that why it will be difficult for me to calculate it all daily to my profitable range. :)


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: ice18 on October 23, 2019, 05:00:44 PM
Im in the middle of this two groups if I felt the bull is coming I usually put majority of my savings into bitcoin but when the market turns into bear I immediately saved my losses after 2018 I did not anticipate what will happen thats why I have lost a lot and learned my lesson not too bullish anymore.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: doomloop on October 25, 2019, 02:01:47 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
Right now on the current situation of the market, I am on the Bears side that is taking out already the money when I've got already my desired income. I prefer the making of money in a very short period of time, it is more profitable than waiting a long period of time to take the money, and there is no assurance that it will grow big so I am taking the money if I think it is good enough for me. Anyway I am on the side of the Bear's group.
I do not understand why are you taking out money when the market is clearly going through dip and we all know that sooner or later, all the potential coins will rise up and there are high chances that bitcoin will reach 20k dollars within first quarter of 2020. It is good that you set some target and sell out when that is achieved. This way you make profits but how about setting even bigger targets and moving forward.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Wintersoldier on October 25, 2019, 03:33:27 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

There are times that I can consider my self as a in a Bear's Group because Even if I am 3 years already in trading, I sometimes make a decision to panic sell my altcoins and bitcoins. But most of the time, in a big trade or decision, I do consider analyzing the market first through the technical analysis and updates provided by cryptocrunch so I can be aware of the next market price and volume of a particular crypto.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Question123 on October 25, 2019, 04:20:23 PM
You know man I do shoterm and longterm investing to the cryptocurrency, I think it depends to the ability of the trader and the coin that they purchased if they are good in longterm or  shorterm. For this the other is longterm because some od obly who are have oatient and mostly for the trader are really shorterm because they want a fast profit even they get few also because of the shorterm.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: bitbunnny on October 25, 2019, 04:42:15 PM
I can't say that I strictly belong to one of these groups. I.combine everything, depending on the situation in the market. To my opinion you have to be flexible enough and able to adjust if you want to make profit. But I guess that for majority of people it's easier to stick only to one strategy they choose.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: agentx44 on October 25, 2019, 05:23:56 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I think I can consider myself as a part of Bear's group but I am also looking forward on being in the Bull's group soon. I am not yet financially stable that's why I always keep on taking money out of the market to use it with my personal necessities. It may be seen as less beneficial compared to being a long term investor but I don't have a choice since I am also a self suffecient person.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Webetcoins on October 26, 2019, 11:15:22 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I think I can consider myself as a part of Bear's group but I am also looking forward on being in the Bull's group soon. I am not yet financially stable that's why I always keep on taking money out of the market to use it with my personal necessities. It may be seen as less beneficial compared to being a long term investor but I don't have a choice since I am also a self suffecient person.
It is good to hear that you are able to meet your needs with your investment. There is nothing bad in it. But I would suggest you to try bringing back your coins as the future of digital currencies is a very bright one. You should try to make as much money as possible with the help of digital assets. Moreover, if you have not invested in bitcoin, go for it and start trading. This is the most beneficial profession at present.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Wysi on October 26, 2019, 01:51:23 PM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I think I can consider myself as a part of Bear's group but I am also looking forward on being in the Bull's group soon. I am not yet financially stable that's why I always keep on taking money out of the market to use it with my personal necessities. It may be seen as less beneficial compared to being a long term investor but I don't have a choice since I am also a self suffecient person.

Yes that might be working for you as it's little difficult for most of us to keep a track of the market situation for short term gains as things changes over hours as we have some unpredictable fluctuations in last 72 hours and if you comfortable with short term profits then that's good and I used to do that as well but after 4 months I gave up as it's not a cup of tea for everyone. Wish you all the best.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: supercanada1 on October 27, 2019, 11:04:53 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I think I can consider myself as a part of Bear's group but I am also looking forward on being in the Bull's group soon. I am not yet financially stable that's why I always keep on taking money out of the market to use it with my personal necessities. It may be seen as less beneficial compared to being a long term investor but I don't have a choice since I am also a self suffecient person.

Yes that might be working for you as it's little difficult for most of us to keep a track of the market situation for short term gains as things changes over hours as we have some unpredictable fluctuations in last 72 hours and if you comfortable with short term profits then that's good and I used to do that as well but after 4 months I gave up as it's not a cup of tea for everyone. Wish you all the best.

That's the storyline of the crypto world that you continue to experience until now. There is no certainty that you can leave the money you have invested in all types of coins that exist today. All have the potential to be great in every type of Altcoins.
Well, I hold a bit of different opinion in this regard. Not all of the altcoins hold potential of returning huge or even rewards at all. There have been scams too in altcoins. We have only few crypto currencies that can be trusted with benefits. Bitcoin is at the top of that list and then there is ethereum which is slow but still has a huge support from community due to its perseverance and continuity.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: bitcoin31 on October 27, 2019, 12:42:07 PM
Im bulls and bears group because both of that is I do that . I have coina for longterm and that's a lot of coin and I have for the coins who are in shorterm like holding few weeks upto few months depends on the movement of the coin. What ever you groujp as long as you know how it works between the two you will earn miney but better if you do both like mine.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: redsun114 on October 27, 2019, 03:26:26 PM
I always wanted bitcoin in the bullish side, even if I am in a situation that I don't have bitcoins. Because I have no problems buying them at an expensive price knowing it will continue to move upwards. And I dislike companies that offers leveraging like Bitmex. They the reasons traders can short bitcoin. :(
First, you have to know that there is going to be a price that bitcoin will get to that it will no longer move any further, we have limited supply of bitcoin and once this supply is getting low, the volatility of the coin will reduce and the coin will start becoming stable, buying at that time is actually a very big mistake and I don’t think that is going to be suitable for investment.

The only time that bitcoin should be purchased is when there is a dip in the price, that is the best time. When it comes to leveraging, I don’t think it is the company that you should hate but the traders that are over using leveraging and most especially those that are using high leveraging at the ones that are quite greedy. If you know how to trade well, and you use low leverage, there is a chance of actually losing your trade and giving chance to those company to make money.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: barabarian1 on October 28, 2019, 06:44:18 AM
if I more often do both long-term investment and short-term investment. I do both because in my opinion there are coins that are more suitable for long-term use like bitcoin. and there are also coins that are used for the short term is altcoin. but when there is a bear market like this I think almost all crypto users will invest more long-term or be included in the bull group.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: huu78 on October 28, 2019, 07:04:57 AM
I always determine the market situation first. If it is bad maybe I will choose the short-term to get profit little by little.
If when the market is good maybe I will hold it longer to get profit. So I chose both to get the profit.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Serco on October 28, 2019, 07:14:07 AM
if I more often do both long-term investment and short-term investment. I do both because in my opinion there are coins that are more suitable for long-term use like bitcoin. and there are also coins that are used for the short term is altcoin. but when there is a bear market like this I think almost all crypto users will invest more long-term or be included in the bull group.
in market we will see opportunity that suitable for day trade or long trade.we have to identify and take this  chance to earn every profits and for improvement our portofolio value.if we could identify  coins for day trade from technical analisys maybe  we will love it and give small portion for long term .it very interesting day trading, we only need short time and able to take our profits.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: dentolas on October 28, 2019, 07:19:34 AM
I think there is no such thing as these two groups you mention... people are sometimes bulls, others bears, they can have a tendency to be one of them, but they wont behave always with the same profile
I also do not fit into these two groups


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: iamsange on October 28, 2019, 07:35:13 AM
I am on bull's group,  because sometime i only can do buy and hold. Not really can do daily trading, it is hard and stressful for me. Maybe it is not like that for other people, but for me, i never can do pick good coin to do daily trading. Maybe i will stay with my own strategy although only can do buy and sell. If down, so i will hold until get profit back. But not buy tokens in market. Usually what already listed in my local exchange.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: bitzizzix on October 28, 2019, 08:32:03 AM
I am on bull's group,  because sometime i only can do buy and hold. Not really can do daily trading, it is hard and stressful for me. Maybe it is not like that for other people, but for me, i never can do pick good coin to do daily trading. Maybe i will stay with my own strategy although only can do buy and sell. If down, so i will hold until get profit back. But not buy tokens in market. Usually what already listed in my local exchange.
You choose the right and safe strategy without worry when the market goes down and you are in a long-term method, and if you are not interested in daily or short-term trading don't do it because trading requires expertise and knowledge in analyzing the right and profitable coins and if not will be risky for you.
I support your strategy, and Never do things that you have never done before in cryptocurrency without being based on prior knowledge because the results will be in vain.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Fappanu on October 28, 2019, 10:23:37 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.

I was in those two groups.

I invest in altcoins to earn in the shorterm trade. Usually I buy in the finish initial coin offering , because the price  is cheaper and drops right away. And in bitcoin for longterm holding I usually have 3 to 5 months before im selling bitcoin. But when the price goes up I sell it right away.


Title: Re: WHICH GROUP DO YOU BELONG HERE
Post by: Oneandpure on October 28, 2019, 11:24:35 AM
BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.

BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I think I can consider myself as a part of Bear's group but I am also looking forward on being in the Bull's group soon. I am not yet financially stable that's why I always keep on taking money out of the market to use it with my personal necessities. It may be seen as less beneficial compared to being a long term investor but I don't have a choice since I am also a self suffecient person.

Yes that might be working for you as it's little difficult for most of us to keep a track of the market situation for short term gains as things changes over hours as we have some unpredictable fluctuations in last 72 hours and if you comfortable with short term profits then that's good and I used to do that as well but after 4 months I gave up as it's not a cup of tea for everyone. Wish you all the best.

That's the storyline of the crypto world that you continue to experience until now. There is no certainty that you can leave the money you have invested in all types of coins that exist today. All have the potential to be great in every type of Altcoins.
Well, I hold a bit of different opinion in this regard. Not all of the altcoins hold potential of returning huge or even rewards at all. There have been scams too in altcoins. We have only few crypto currencies that can be trusted with benefits. Bitcoin is at the top of that list and then there is ethereum which is slow but still has a huge support from community due to its perseverance and continuity.

I'm not telling you to believe in all kinds of virtual currencies that already exist today. You just need to be smarter to find coins that make you profit instead of buying all the coins and leaving them alone.
I think become bull group and bear group is the best solution for earn profit with bitcoin and altcoin investment, just how to know best and good moment with bull and bear group because we have control condition with both way to earn profit with bitcoin, some time we have use bull group and some time we can use bear group way to get profit with bitcoin and altcoin investment.