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User humanrightsfoundation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=521521) recently start this self-moderated thread in Project Development: Donate Bitcoin to Human Rights Foundation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179072.0)

I made the following post at the bottom of the thread, which was promptly deleted by him:

He also deleted another post by bitmover asking for proof that the donation address wasn't just his own address.

Archived thread with aforementioned posts visible: https://archive.is/4qEKm

The combination of stealing the name of a well known organization, making grandiose claims with no evidence, refusing to answer simple questions, and deleting any post which questions him, makes it almost certain that this is a scam attempt.

Definitely a scammer and also a previous user of the forum, the person behind the account knows for the scheme to be successful he/she needs to make his thread self moderated to delete any post questioning their credibility. Seen some negative feedback from DT members on the account, that's great. Hope you don't mind creating a type 1 flag to make the accusations more visible. This is definitely an imposter, with scam intentions. It's just too obvious.

Edit: supported flag. Will only withdraw my support if user can proof their credibility without any doubt.

I was waiting to give the user a chance to respond to this thread, or answer the questions I outlined above, if he so wished. Instead he deleted all the other comments questioning him from his own thread and left frivolous retaliatory red trust to myself, bitmover and Vod.

Flag has been created here for anyone who wishes to support it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=666

What is interesting is that given Bitcoin address is active
so BTC movement can be tracked to see where it goes.
https://btc-explorer.com/address/18fyEQXaZQgCbNoE5Qjs6W7Pnqc9Yp4PQD

So far
received 5.37276269 BTC
      sent 5.37241998 BTC
 balance 0.00034271 BTC

Flag supported.

This was my deleted post
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It doesn't matter if your organization is based on Switzerland or whatever. You have to prove that the donations are not for you, but for the human rights foundation. And you failed to do so, and deleted the posts that proved you wrong. Scammer

Innocent users, when falsely accused, tend to answer the questions they have been asked. They don't delete those questions and lock their thread. They don't leave retaliatory ratings and support fake flags on the people asking them questions. They don't throw insults at everyone. Your actions are not the actions of an innocent user. I would have expected someone so interested in human rights to at least be able to discuss things in a civil manner.

A single post asking you some question is not abusive spam by any stretch.

You can still see my post archived here: https://archive.is/4qEKm#80%. At no point did I use the word "scam". I asked some questions which would be easy to answer for a legitimate organization. You responded by deleting those questions.

Then please answer the questions I posed to you earlier:
Can you explain why you decided to use the name of a widely known human rights organization?
Can you provide evidence of any of your claims?
Can you show how previous bitcoin donations to that address were spent?

Flag supported. A person with genuine intent would have answered the questions calmly and professionally and not just having to delete them.
Looking at the profane language used by "humanrightsfoundation" both here and the retaliatory feedback. I have no doubts that the person behind the "donation" scheme has a malicious intent.

So why did you use the name of a much larger and better known organization? You must appreciate that to an outside user it appears as though you are trying to imitate them and perhaps fool people in to thinking you are in some way affiliated.

These claims:

The Swiss government is not asking for my bitcoin.

As far as I can tell, your website doesn't actually mention a single human rights violation or provide any information on human rights whatsoever. Have these donations actually done anything at all for advancing human rights, or have they all just been spent on hosting your meager website?

The Tor page which you link to on your website is down, and apparently has been for months.

Your website also says you are "Publishing and distributing uncensorable reports, articles and media about human rights violations". Can you provide links to some of these reports please?

Attitude shown here by founder of 'human rights foundation' is very arrogant.

Maybe he is having genuine intentions or not, but with this he is falling deeper in the 'quicksand' of Bitcointalk forum.

So now explain to me why was my comment deleted.
You said the proof that you are not a scammer is that you have a blockchain.com tag. I proved you wrong, because that's no proof of anything. Wrong and a lier. And you deleted my post.

You can still answer me now and provide some proof that this address belongs to that organization and not to you only.

I read through your website and I'm wondering, what have you accomplished in 5 years of operation? I would have asked this question in your own thread but you seem to have locked it.

Still didn't answer

We have the right to tag suspicious users also. And deleting posts without reasons is suspicious

We hope that our flag will let those intelligent users read your posts and ours before deciding to donate to you or not.

Bye... good luck scamming elsewhere.
A scammer a way each day keeps Bitcointalk clean and a much better forum compared to any other crypto forum around. You scammers are very toxic and always ruin everything you come across.

So in over 5 years and with over 5 BTC in donations, you've not received a single communication, nor have you published a single "report, article or media", nor have you "provided secure tools and communication channels", nor have you "educated the public". You haven't "promoted, protected, or upheld" human rights, because you haven't actually done anything.

How are potential whistle-blowers going to feel comfortable trusting reporting human rights abuses to you and trusting you with information and correspondence which may very well put their lives at risk, when you can't even be trusted to openly and honestly answer basic questions about your "organization"?

I think you got your answer  :D

They probably keep getting bypassed by complainants in favor of the real Human Rights Foundation. Probably should have come up with a more original name.

Kind of reminds me of this:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51934MrdQKL.jpg

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So what have you actually accomplished in your 5 years thus far? Your website has nothing except for a picture of your founder and then of course your section on how to donate. You list no plan of action, no ideas of how you plan to improve human rights, nothing tangible that would suggest you are going to improve anybody's lives anywhere. I gotta tell you, even if you were trying to do this via charity ICO, you would be ridiculed into the ground.

Perhaps its best if you seek donations elsewhere.

This is only a step up from when those Criptonians accounts kept begging for 50 BTC to magically boost bitcoin's acceptance and price. (all their accounts were banned and all their messages deleted)

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It was registered in 2001 (https://who.is/whois/HRF.org). The actual Human Rights Foundation has been in existence since 2005 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_Foundation). They've been accepting bitcoin donations since 2013, a year before you started your copycat venture.


All signs point to you.

You can't even provide evidence of a single solitary thing that you've accomplished.

I am using Qwant search engine and all I can find is your numerous subdomains for many countries....

I also don't see you on any social media platforms (including blockchain based)

And where is this Human Rights Academy located?

There is zero evidence of this on their archived website. There are zero similarities between their bitcoin donation page and yours.

Dude. They've been around since 2005. You've been around since 2014. You clearly took the same of an organization that had already been in existence for 9 years! Its your fault if you get shitty web ranking results and have a hard time with SEO -- you are using the name of a well-known organization.

For several years they used the URLs humanrightsfoundation.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20110128090534/http://humanrightsfoundation.com/), humanrightsfoundation.org and thehrf.org. Whenever they moved to the "hrf.org" domain is irrelevant.

Regardless, you've apparently accomplished absolutely nothing in 5 years.

There is no sane reason why anyone would donate money to you.

Whether or not hrf.org are fascists, CIA agents, copyright thieves, or any of the other claims you are making, is irrelevant to whether or not you are trustworthy.

The bottom line is you have ran your "organization" for over 5 years, and have taken in over 5 BTC in donations, yet haven't achieved anything at all. You haven't fulfilled a single one of the claims you made on your original post or on your website.

The site you linked to above - https://universaldeclarationofhumanrights.info/ - simply hosts a document written by the UN (without any attribution, I may add).

Yes, you definitely sound like someone who would respect and fight for the rights of all people. ::)

Charity scams using Bitcoin as means of monetary value transfer on the rise - very bullish for Bitcoin. This fake organization may not be the last of its kind here in Bitcointalk. More to come.

Look up, he does know the injustice happening. :)


I think the coins he got was prior to this scam he stunts today. But what scams did he do before this human rights foundation donation?

If he received 5btc just by concocting he is from human rights foundation, it really would mean the people here are just naive lol Scammers just think they can get money with just that kind of trick must have been dreaming.

Dude, you've already exposed yourself as being completely nuts, but you keep getting nuttier. This text is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, written by the U.N.


https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

It most certainly is NOT written by you.

You must realize by this point everyone here thinks you're a lunatic. Do you not understand this?

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So you were not only alive in 1948 but of an age where you could pen something so profound and transformative? You must be at least 100 years old.  :D

You are bragging that you have 'older' account ... but you are still a 'newbie' with no activity,
kinda same thing like with your website.... old website - no reports.

https://i.imgur.com/mB2m1FU.png

You did exactly what almost all the scammers do here... Hide behind a self moderated thread and delete any questions when asked about the legitimacy of your "charity organisation"
Did you expect people to blindly follow what you say and send donation without asking any questions?

And then to remove even the few doubts we had you went ahead and acted like an arrogant prick... again just like the sore scammers always do here.

Why should people trust you?

People created this topic to express free speech that they where denied in original fascist style self-moderated-restrictive thread.
I would like to claim a violation report to humanrighfoundation academy.

Arrogant attitude, rude language and terror threats also don't help at all  ::)

So he deleted all his comments here (or had them deleted for him) and is now attempting to tag team Bitcointalk with game-protect in Scam Accusations: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179453

It's a match made in heaven. Or hell. You know, one or the other...

Well i think this is an interesting find about the humanrights.foundation owner Zoltan Konder about his behavior towards other people. here is the 4 page exclusion order came from USPTO: https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Exclusion%20Order%20-%20Zoltan%20Konder.pdf (https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Exclusion%20Order%20-%20Zoltan%20Konder.pdf) in that order explains why he was expelled just read it yourselves and you will know that he is a self entitled human rights advocate who doesn't know how enforce human rights on others.

anyways his already a scam for me for reasons:

1. No proof of his progress about his projects. Just a bar telling us how much progess did he make. no photos, articles about his project.
2. No Information of his suborganization in other countries (seriously i am from the Philippines i didn't saw or hear about his organization at all.)

Wow, he is such an entitled asshole that its comical. He apparently tried to sue the actual Human Rights Foundation in 2016 as well:

https://www.law360.com/ttab_cases/58d7e940a2bcd27f4a00003c

Apparently, the naming conflict, and trying to take advantage of the similarity of a well known organization is interpreted as such by others. Just to show that this is not a Bitcointalk gang against the alleged NGO: see https://wikivisually.com/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/October_2015#HUMANRIGHTS.FOUNDATION

It’s pretty lengthy, so here are some extracts (see above link for full context). The first one is from the alleged NGO; the remaining from Wikipedia:

Nice behaviour and language by someone who allegedly cares for humans rights. You showed your true colors really fast, and just confirmed that all this was just a  scam attempt.

Teaming up with GP, that speaks volumes.
I'm actually surprised there is a second person who could rise to that level.
Didn't think we'd find one that quickly, if ever.

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That is what a forum is made for.
If you were searching for something else, you might be on the wrong website.

One sided? You get to respond, don't you.
You could use your responses to prove them wrong, instead of cursing and insulting.

That's what I love about this forum: I could have never dreamed this kind of entertainment up on my own in a thousand years.

I'm archiving this page (https://archive.is/gUmes) because this is too good to not.


Well, guess you should just fuck back off to Switzerland then, huh bud. Here's a few free tips:

- come up with your own name.
- actually demonstrate that you can do something for anybody.
- stop being such an entitled, insane dickhead.

You're welcome.

archived:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190828122453/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179215.msg52291340

There is another interesting fact about ZOLTÁN KONDÉR

http://www.police.hu/hu/koral/elfogatoparancs-alapjan-korozott-szemelyek/167211

How do you go from this:

https://i.imgur.com/YHfwehL.png

to this?

https://i.imgur.com/YTT1ARo.png

I'm not going to go into detail about the scam accusation originally posted, it seems many other members have already gone into grave detail... I don't know the site in question, nor do i know wether or not it's a scam...

However, i noticed the person who was the subject of the scam accusation has made dead threats against a person who he identified with both first and last name, aswell as detailing how he would kill said person... Eventough it seems he has now deleted said post? EDIT: found the original in the archived thread here (https://web.archive.org/web/20190828122453/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179215.msg52291340)

In my country this is completely illegal and you can actually be sent to jail, even for posting things like this on a public forum.

Is there anybody from Hungary who can verify if this is the case for hungarians aswell? Or is this forum under US jurisdiction, in this case the subject of the accusation might fall under us law (i'm pretty sure making death treats against somebody is illegal in the US aswell).

Nothing fascist in Switzerland indeed.

https://www.patriot.ch/archiv/2009/minarett-verbot/minarettverbot1.jpg

Death threats should not be accepted regardless of who voices them and regardless of against whom they are made.
No, nobody should be allowed to make death threats against you, but simply because you have been wronged in that way does not give you the right to respond in the very same way.
Eye for an eye is a barbaric, outdated sense of justice. Someone supposedly fighting for Human Rights should have a moral standard that is several levels above that.

A few thoughts on this ongoing drama:

Firstly, apologies to the forum for setting off this nonsense. As I do with all trolls, I will largely be ignoring him from this point forth, and would encourage others to do the same.

Secondly, I would encourage everyone to keep any dox or similar information to the Investigations board. Having said that, the information which has been found and shared goes a long way to showing the kind of character we are dealing with here. For someone who conducts himself in this way to claim to be a proponent of human rights is laughable.

Lastly, I still had some concerns yesterday that I had unfairly tagged someone who was genuinely trying their best to run an organization, despite obviously doing so very poorly. Thankfully, the information shared coupled with this user's threats of hacking the forum, constant insults and rage, and threats of violence and murder, have removed any doubt from my mind.

You were making death threats in this thread. I am responding to the death threats you make in this thread.
If you do not want to have death threats be a topic in here, you should not have started making them right here.

He's obviously a paranoid schizophrenic, however high functioning and wealthy of a background, these last few posts of his cement that. He actually believes he wrote the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was written in 1948. I'm sure in his mind the Lizard People really are out to do him in.

Is making death threats grounds for banning only if they're against another member?

Why would anyone sent a single satoshi to this self confirmed convicted criminal, ex-spy and ultra-religious extremist ?

So he can fund some terrorist group maybe?

Neither Amazon nor any ISP will give you personal information. Good luck with that.

Wow....I'm impressed, 5000km accuracy  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm waiting for a whistleblower fugitive contacting my VPN provider, my ISP, and the authorities to delete a public picture
Please make it before it goes dark and don't forget to also send them the copies of the PM's you've sent me.

Later edit
Removed all the bla bla bla as the all his shit got deleted anyway.

Maybe you should start getting the image removed at the actual location, imgur. Not at the image-proxy that bitcointalk hosts.

Well, this clearly looks to me as an attempt to threaten people by showing "virtual" powers that I highly doubt you possess. Is it an extortion sort of attempt? Who exactly gave you the authority to fight for the copyrights when things here are clearly mentioned with sources? And how can the whole forum be taken down? I mean how can you sue the owner of this forum just because a user here posted a copyrighted image with / without source? Those who do it get a ban here right away already.

@oeleo,
Jeez, can you guys please find out any similarities between game-protect and humanrightsfoundation please? I guess game-protect was enough alone to entertain us, we don't need HRF to join the rally here.

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And what are you doing here exactly?  ::)

Wait, you mean this image?

https://cdn3.imggmi.com/uploads/2019/8/28/5336b12ab70cefd7e2247390532d34ec-full.png

How do you know I was the one who uploaded it? How you do you know I visited your website, and even if I did, that I wasn't using a public WiFi, or a friends, or a strangers?

Didn't know that you were a TMAN fan... Well I mean, who isn't?

Oh yeah, let's get the court system involved. Especially international court cases, over a posted picture on a bitcoin forum. That sounds like a reasonable response.
What a rational decision, showing once again how in charge of your actions you are and how much I would want to trust you with my donations.
While you're at it, when filing lawsuit against theymos, do us the favor and file a self-indictment regarding the three times you have made death threats in this thread.
Just to save us others the time, you know.

The bigger fonts you use, the more right you are.
Following the classic principle of who shouts the loudest gets their way.

Personal? A self-moderated thread where you asked for donations and then deleting some users' posts just because you couldn't respond them or didn't want the mess to be witnessed by other forum members to probably become your victim? Is it really that personal?

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Then there remains no difference between you and a psycho criminal who commits crime and tell a sob story for which he committed it. You can make threats? Isn't your responsibility to calmly deal with situations and help others while being part of a HUMAN RIGHTS FOUNDATION?


Let me get straight to the point. I was scammed for BTC0.05 last year, should I sue Theymos for that, Mr. Human Kid?


Well, I bet you just find him first. ;)
And if you ever find him, please let us see and greet him personally at least once.

I am sorry but I can’t see the evidence In favor of your claims.
Why not take a vacation.  Come back in a month or so.

Bring us that powerful evidence of corruption.

Til then peace out and have fun on your vacation.

1. Personal. Yes. This has nothing to do with scam accusation. The comments are deleted because linked to another U.S. Corporation with the same name as this organization and that corporation also copy from our page to gain financial advantage. Criminal copyright infringers who started accepting Bitcoin in March of 2019. They also tried in May 1 2015 register a trademark in the USA (uspto.gov) what I personally protested successfully.

2. My responsibility is to keep working on my project and ignore such a disgraceful personal attacks. I said it many times. If anyone want to help I and my partners open for cooperation. Everyone can stay anonymous while working on this project. Except me of course. Until now BitcoinTalk users supported nothing or presented not a single idea. Copyright infringement, baseless scam accusations and personal attacks are booming here.

Why are you so upset that people post this picture?

https://i.imgur.com/eBotaK7.png

It is publically available on your own website. It's not like you're getting doxed.

Mr. Human is done:

https://i.snipboard.io/HIEzu7.jpg (https://i.snipboard.io/HIEzu7.jpg)

At least until he gets a new account to troll with.

I feel bad for the rights of the humans this guy is fighting for.

I think he might be working for satan: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=666

Don't worry he is here with some alternative account...

https://i.imgur.com/YigfGBl.png
(souvenir from his soundcloud)




maybe... or maybe he is  :o

That's giving me serious E.T. vibes.

https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2017/01/24/22/55/et-2006631_960_720.jpg

Hope that picture isn't copyrighted!

Luckily it is under cc0 license, I think I narrowly escaped a lawsuit there. Phew.

Could you make it any more obvious?

Welcome back. Try to abstain from death threats this time please.

The username seems like a bad start.

Clear case of Ban evasion.

@o_e_l_e_o
Please lock this topic so we can all move on now.
Enough circus show

I surely felt like i was loosing my head when i saw it  :D

Your posts are getting deleted faster than you can make them.
I must say your trolling is pretty pale in comparison to the real OG's, let's say cryptohunter and his buddies.

C -  for your continued larp as a human rights activist. I miss the compassion for your cause, the walls of text, All-caps messages, and overtly personal believe in you being right. It seems like you've already given up. There's a lot of room for improvement.

Apologies. The scam accusation has been proven, the scammer in question has been banned, and therefore this thread has reached its conclusion. I will therefore lock it before it is further derailed by said scammer on an alt account.

Inb4 stopping the thread from being derailed is censorship.