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Over the past few days, it has been difficult been an African immigrant, living in South Africa. There isn't any assurances of carrying out your daily activities without the fear of getting abused/assaulted by either the South African police force or citizens. Businesses and (in some cases), home residents of these immigrants have been targeted, burnt/destroyed beyond recognition.

Warning: Very graphic images.
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Yes those images are correct, there have been reports of immigrants, cars, businesses etc getting burnt (alive) for no just reason. From my point of view, the South Africans are just displaying selfishness and a little bit of jealousy. These immigrants pose no threat to their economy as they claim, accusing them of stealing their wealth etc. It saddens me seeing my fellow Africa brothers & sisters doing this to others. If we can treat each other like this, what message are we sending to the world.

Here's a message from Travor noah explaining clearly the reason behind this Xenophobic attcaks. It's simply a misdirection of anger towards the wrong set of individuals.
https://i.imgur.com/w1ydiTq.jpg

The sooner they realize that, we as Africans have to stand up for each other to protect what we have, help ourselves achieve success, the better the continent will become. It make no sense Africans killing Africans, enslaving each other, hating on each other etc. I stand against Xenophobia. South Africans need to grow up, they need to realized that they're no longer under slavery. What's your take/stand on this xenophobia issue?

It would make more sense them killing whites eh?

The message it sends to the rest of the world is that africans cannot be reasoned with, even by close to their own kind, and they get very violent..

Who wrote that bastardized English?

Do you have any posts you can quote about how saddened you are about the terrible violence against south african whites these last couple years?

This violence against fellow blacks/africans is just "misdirected" and should really be aimed toward all those terrible whites who are somehow able to create value (make money), and you just don't understand why they can but africans can't so they MUST be stealing it from the africans right?
What was anything worth in SA before whites came there at all?

Don't misunderstand me please, it makes no sense when humans kill their fellow humans, especially when it's done unlawfully. I'm very active on my twitter page speaking against the Xenophobia attack, using the hashtags associated with the xenophobia attact to spread my message across. The focus here were Africans hating on each other to the extent of burning ourselves alive, destroying what a fellow hustler, survives on.

Generally, we using ourselves as scapegoat instead of focusing the anger lawfully on those who're stealing our resources in the name of rendering humanity services etc is just stupidity [Africa isn't poor - Africa is being raped (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5107086.0)]. I'm a civilized individual and I advocate for things to be done in a civilized manner. I would never support them attacking whites unlawfully neither do i support their attack on the blacks. There are right ways for things to be done, they should go do that instead of misdirecting their anger towards those they know their government won't retaliate. This can't be done to the Americans or any Westerns counties immigrants as they'll be hit immediate with sanctions to the extent they'll seized to exist as a country😄. The xenophobia attacts has been ongoing and very active in the last 10years although this time around they went too far.

Africa is raping itself. You talk of scapegoats, but you simultaneously speak of your own favorite scapegoat. You know what really separates places like Africa and China from the rest of the modern industrialized world? A sense of common wealth, and high levels of social trust. Without these things, even if all the other world's nations ceased to exist, Africa would still be raping itself. Clean up your own backyard before pointing at the neighbor's.

Does that mean you would support attacks on white people if they were lawful? I bet most of black people would like to be able to kick those rich whites out of their back yard and have a go at their own policies and laws, just like the people of Liberia did. You guys never learn. When you are ruler by white people it's bad, when you are ruled by black dictators like Idi Amin it's even worse, but when you are able to set up your own governments you end up with Liberia, Zimbabwe, and so on.

This ain't stopping any time soon. Kinda reminded me of what happened in Rwanda. Thing is, people can get so tribal that they'd just try to oppress every other group. Also doesn't help that these groups probably never wanted to be in the same country to begin with and of course, that hate will spill over to newer groups.


He would have definitely supported Mugabe's "lawful" policies of driving out people to the point that the fields aren't getting worked.

The same happens everywhere. The elite creates inequality and blame the immigrants. Poor and ignorant people agree. This is old but still works.

The recent attack on humanity in South Africa by South Africans is babarick and in strong term should be condemn by all. It seems to me that the young people who are carrying this babarick activities have forgotten or not aware of how they got freedom from the white supremacy. Some African countries like Nigeria contributed over $60 Billion them to get freedom and now they are fighting the the same hand that feeds them in the past. Time will come they will regret there action.

It's so sad to see these attacks by South Africans on immigrants. The leaders of these countries need to sit down and solve these issues. The hate portrayed by South Africans is out of fear caused by the Apartheid. These killings should also be condemned by international organisations.

This is a terrible thing to do to someone like you. There are better ways to fish out individuals engaging in crime, the law enforcement agencies can help stop crime committed by foreigners. Citizens should not be allowed to take law into their hands.

I feel so sorry for people living in these conditions. It is simply... literally.. hard to live and make a living in such hostile conditions. I would understand why, so many try to leave this place. See the crucial contradiction here is that "nationalism", in terms of national identity, can be perverted into "racism" and xenophobia.

Indeed there are many precedents in history for this kind of occurrence. Sadly, if we go to other countries, we will see the same pattern over and over and over ad infinitum. Tribal identification prevails over any sense of civic mindedness. Blood is thicker than water so to speak.

At this juncture, I can only wish the people living in such my best, and hope you can leave and migrate to a more peaceful country.

well thats called national economic selfawareness, somehow the "immigrants" have to be put into the economioc machine even the so called "muslims" who think they are the most just people in the world, have to do that.

if they would stop being racist the social order of the south african financial cartel would collapse and south africa would get back into stone age and end up in civil war.

All I see from an average black South African is insecurity and it seems they didn't read how many African nations especially Nigeria supported them during apartheid. Many of them are lazy and businesses and endeavors that they should be doing are the ones African immigrants are doing and they are getting more successful than their host which create this hatred and insecurity. Also, many black South African ladies prefer men from other African countries which further increases the hatred against them and stylishly south Africa government support their people in this heinous attack against fellow black men.

What in gods fuck is this.

Holy shit why isn't the media reporting on this happening. Or at least, why isn't this front page news like it should be? I haven't seen any of this and this is a horrible thing to see in the world.

Not liking immigrants, while despicable, is one thing. But burning them alive and physically assaulting them (and even killing them) in the streets is another thing. This is a whole other level of how horrible humans can be to one another.

This is a great demonstration of why you should include a wider range of sources for your topical information. There is no such thing as bad information, only useless interpretations of it. The key is recognizing the source and its motives.

It's one of the horrors the first world nations fear the most - that these, as a certain powerful individual would say, "shitholes" are going to eventually reach a boiling point and spill over to their borders. To be frank, there's a huge role to be played in this by big corporations and centuries of colonialization by the various European powers.

They left one gigantic mess - that cannot be cleaned. And now, they will reap what they sow.

Hence, the "build that wall" and "Brexxit" and apocalyptic tv shows inundating us with horrors that are all becoming too real.

[sees Africans slaughtering Africans]

[types furiously on his iPhone]

"It must be the corporations! Evil colonialists!"


Why is it Africa doesn't hold responsibility for Africa? Has anyone considered if Africa stopped eating itself, it might be strong enough to be independent? No, lets just keep eating each others faces and blame corporations and "the whites", that is easier.

Sub Saharan Africa, it is at the same time incredibly beautiful, and terrifying.

This isn't me saying that I don't go into other news sources, this is me stating that I think it's horrible that the MSM companies avoid these sorts of news stories.

Also - most of the news sources that you post (or people on this forum at least) are from shitty blog sites, zerohedge, etc.

The media does avoid reporting on events in S Africa, many of which are quite interesting or news worthy.  S Africa is in my opinion a success compared to Nigeria, Zimbabwe, Libera, many other places. In my opinion this is because whites have been down there for a LONG TIME, 400-500 years. And that means their cultural influences have been there. Hence, productive industries and a fairly high standard of living.

I didn't say it was. I was specifically alluding to a previous response you have had in the past to "shitty blog sites, (like) Zerohedge". You aren't hearing about it because you are convinced there are such things as good sources and bad sources instead of just examining the merit of the content on an individual basis. This blind spot exists specifically because you maintain this idea that CNN for example has any more credibility than any shitty blog site you pick out of a hat. They are both equally capable of presenting facts, and you will never know if it is factual if you don't examine it first.

Sorry for not updating on the resent development concerning this matter, have been busy lately. Here are some update;
Nigerians return home, fleeing xenophobic attacks in South Africa (https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/09/africa/nigeria-to-evacuate-citizens-from-south-africa-intl/index.html). This came after the second attack on foreigners living in South Africa were recorded days after i created this thread. No updates yet on immigrants from other countries.

UPDATE: Four Nigerians Wounded In Latest Xenophobic Violence In South Africa (http://saharareporters.com/2019/10/22/update-four-nigerians-wounded-latest-xenophobic-violence-south-africa)

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I think this issue might get out of hand if it continues. The last time I heard about it,  governments of both countries intervened and it cooled that. This new update goes to show that South Africa hasn't had enough yet. With the way the xenophobic attacks are going, It might turn into a full blown war. War isn't my thing. I just hope South Africans desist from such attacks. Good thing nobody died this time.

A black South African explained it to me once. He said basically, the blacks, coloreds, are all tribal. Different tribes will fight and have hatreds of each other going back a thousand years. The Whites are the peace-makers.

Given the recent Marxist President and his attitudes toward taking everything away from the whites, what you say is not unexpected.

Semi-related, when I was in Durban the Nigerians were the drug lords. Of course that was likely a small percentage of Nigerians and doesn't justify the violence you mentioned.