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Title: world Strongest leader?
Post by: natalia stark on September 10, 2019, 08:09:33 PM
i have been seeing so many videos and even read some news and articles about the world strongest leaders or you can say world powerful leader, but all those were based on the biasness and the made or written by the people of those countries. I want to know who is the that leader with facts and power, technology, arms and the most importantly dangerous influence.

so go ahead and present facts if you can  :)


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: xhomerx10 on September 11, 2019, 02:09:57 AM
 Turkey is a bit of a stretch but why did you put UAE in the voting list?   I want to know with facts and power, technology, arms and the most importantly dangerous influence.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: semobo on September 11, 2019, 05:28:17 AM
Kim Jong-un.

I see him as one of the strongest leader because he can do what he like to do whether its good or bad it have to be done,so his words are the final in his country.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: Jet Cash on September 11, 2019, 08:51:14 AM
All of those "leaders" are subject to control and influence by the real world elite. The strongest are in the ruling dynasties of the Rothschilds, The Vatican, and the British Crown.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: poptok1 on September 11, 2019, 09:09:03 AM
OP you forgot to add the banksters to the list, for example:
Agustín Carstens general manager of BIS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_for_International_Settlements)  ;)
All of those "leaders" are subject to control and influence by the real world elite...
Of course those as you described elites, have some serious power in the world, but I think it all became sort of diminished to a national level.
Bureaucracy and statism are the new form of despotism. That's why those mentioned by you and quite a few others, are in serious need for  centralisation of power, global totalitarian government. BIS is the emanation of such ideas that almost no one is talking about.
 


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: Indamuck on September 11, 2019, 11:08:59 AM
All of those "leaders" are subject to control and influence by the real world elite. The strongest are in the ruling dynasties of the Rothschilds, The Vatican, and the British Crown.

I agree with you, none of these leaders have any real power.  The real controllers are behind the scenes pulling the strings and people like Trump is just a puppet.  Whoever controls the banking system has the ultimate power.



Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: squatz1 on September 11, 2019, 03:57:50 PM
I mean it really depends on how you define strong. Personally strong, in the sense that they'd be able to hold their own in a fight without any sort of backup -- that's one way of going about this.

Honestly that's a hard one to look out, as you're going to have issues finding REAL stories about these leaders as most of them are just going to have people stand up for them and say their strong, doctors are going to say they're the best, and so on and so forth.

Kinda stupid metric when we have militaries, and economic control, and so on and so forth.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: styca on September 11, 2019, 06:29:23 PM
Probably Xi Jinping for me. Second place would be Putin. The reason being they are both in control of very powerful countries, and they are both intelligent and know what they are doing. This is why I'd put Trump further down the list. He's only in charge because Putin wanted him there.

Putin I would put ahead of Xi Jinping, were it not for the fact that China is more powerful than Russia.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: squatz1 on September 11, 2019, 06:58:39 PM
Probably Xi Jinping for me. Second place would be Putin. The reason being they are both in control of very powerful countries, and they are both intelligent and know what they are doing. This is why I'd put Trump further down the list. He's only in charge because Putin wanted him there.

Putin I would put ahead of Xi Jinping, were it not for the fact that China is more powerful than Russia.

This literally isn't true in the least. This is something that liberals like to say, but it's not something which is true in the least.

It was shown in multiple reports that Putins goal was to sow division in the US, not to put a certain candidate into the office.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: natalia stark on September 11, 2019, 07:27:24 PM
Turkey is a bit of a stretch but why did you put UAE in the voting list?   I want to know with facts and power, technology, arms and the most importantly dangerous influence.

As you know that the UAE leaders have the money and now they have the advanced technology along with the arms and most importantly dangerous influence over the world as they have collaboraed with americans leaders for the dangerous arms deals. thats why i ahve added them in the list.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: Cnut237 on September 12, 2019, 04:23:24 PM
Probably Xi Jinping for me. Second place would be Putin. The reason being they are both in control of very powerful countries, and they are both intelligent and know what they are doing. This is why I'd put Trump further down the list. He's only in charge because Putin wanted him there.

Putin I would put ahead of Xi Jinping, were it not for the fact that China is more powerful than Russia.

This literally isn't true in the least. This is something that liberals like to say, but it's not something which is true in the least.

It was shown in multiple reports that Putins goal was to sow division in the US, not to put a certain candidate into the office.

I'm not sure whether this is true or not, I've certainly heard the speculation, but I would agree that Trump isn't intelligent enough to be the world's most powerful leader. I suppose it does all come down to the definition of powerful, which obviously can be taken in many ways. If it is in terms of influence, then I would agree the Chinese leader is #1. China's activities in the South China Sea alone are quite astonishing. So I would say Xi is #1 for me too, with the qualification that really whoever is in charge of China would take the top spot, whether it's Xi or someone else.



Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: Naida_BR on September 12, 2019, 07:04:39 PM
i have been seeing so many videos and even read some news and articles about the world strongest leaders or you can say world powerful leader, but all those were based on the biasness and the made or written by the people of those countries. I want to know who is the that leader with facts and power, technology, arms and the most importantly dangerous influence.

so go ahead and present facts if you can  :)

I would vote for Erdogan.
The reason for that is that he is both strong in his external and internal politics. He influences so many people inside Turkey and also has  a lot of power in situations outside Turkey and as his opinion counts a lot, it makes him a strong leader.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: Juggy777 on September 13, 2019, 12:15:35 PM
Probably Xi Jinping for me. Second place would be Putin. The reason being they are both in control of very powerful countries, and they are both intelligent and know what they are doing. This is why I'd put Trump further down the list. He's only in charge because Putin wanted him there.

Putin I would put ahead of Xi Jinping, were it not for the fact that China is more powerful than Russia.

This literally isn't true in the least. This is something that liberals like to say, but it's not something which is true in the least.

It was shown in multiple reports that Putins goal was to sow division in the US, not to put a certain candidate into the office.

I'm not sure whether this is true or not, I've certainly heard the speculation, but I would agree that Trump isn't intelligent enough to be the world's most powerful leader. I suppose it does all come down to the definition of powerful, which obviously can be taken in many ways. If it is in terms of influence, then I would agree the Chinese leader is #1. China's activities in the South China Sea alone are quite astonishing. So I would say Xi is #1 for me too, with the qualification that really whoever is in charge of China would take the top spot, whether it's Xi or someone else.



Trump is the Worlds strongest leader according to me, because he’s forced all the world leaders to either accept his terms or face his wrath. If I remember correctly Kim was ruling North Korea with a free hand and no US president tried to step up to him, but Trump forced him to bend down. Russia and US didn’t have friendly relations, but Trump seduced Putin and now Russia and US have better relationship with each other. Lastly how can I forget Xi Jinping who’s at the receiving end of Trump’s trade war, and to save China’s economy he’s reduced tariffs on few goods.

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/china-to-remove-tariffs-on-some-us-products-but-not-pork-or-soybeans/2019/09/11/79d45fc0-d459-11e9-8924-1db7dac797fb_story.html


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: YOSHIE on September 13, 2019, 12:40:42 PM
Many people believe in this world many people who are in power, but it all must have the effect and ability of a person to succeed. not only that but must be supported by facts, not just talking but the people are miserable.

I will present all of this to you.

This is the list of the most powerful people.

Link: https://www.forbes.com/powerful-people/list/

#1 Xi Jinping China: https://zizihub.com/a270.jpg
#2 Vladimir  Russia: https://zizihub.com/0b67.jpg
#3 Donald Trump U: https://zizihub.com/1313.jpg

And this is the strongest person in 2019.
Do you want to see it.

Link: https://www.quora.com/Who-is-the-strongest-world-leader-in-2019

And this is the most powerful person in the world.

Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_list_of_The_World%27s_Most_Powerful_People

Besides that it must be based on the confidence of a true leader, rather than false beliefs.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: kannikaamudee on September 13, 2019, 04:36:27 PM
I nominate donuld trump as most insane leader


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: jossiel on September 13, 2019, 10:13:29 PM
Whoever is the wealthiest can gain control and power. I agree with the list of others and I also think those three leaders are the strongest leaders in the world.

  • Xi Jinping
  • Vladimir Putin
  • Kim Jong-Un

But it's also known that there are people behind them that are playing and controlling that power they have and remains off and lowkey.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: Sports Bettor on September 14, 2019, 12:14:51 AM
Only 10 votes and the poll is locked? What's up with that?


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: coolcoinz on September 14, 2019, 08:44:25 AM
I'd say Putin mainly due to the popularity he has in his country. Just think of the number of people in the US who protested against Trump, even though he was lawfully elected and it was his first term. Putin got himself elected which was proven when they counted all the votes and it came up to more than 100%. Somehow there were more ballots than voters, but he became the president again, and then changed the law to be able to stay for the third term! Imagine what would happen in the USA in that situation. Rage, chaos, neverending protests, but Putin is still loved. People have his framed pictures on the walls, like they once had Stalin's. :D


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: styca on September 14, 2019, 09:36:50 AM
Only 10 votes and the poll is locked? What's up with that?

I take it as a demonstration of authoritarian leadership by the OP. This example of 100% control and censorship of dissenting voices proves that the OP is the strongest person in this thread. It's vindication of my choice of Xi Jinping as strongest leader ;)


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: Flying Hellfish on September 14, 2019, 01:29:54 PM
I think the Clintons are the most powerful lizard leaders in the world.... LOLOLOL  ;D


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: Daniel91 on September 14, 2019, 01:45:26 PM
All other leaders must maintain at least the illusion of democracy and free elections, only the leader of North Korea rules as an absolute and untouchable leader and subjects regard him as a deity.
Grandpa, father and son Kim have been the undisputed rulers of North Korea for 3 generations.
There is no similar example in modern history in the world.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: BADecker on September 14, 2019, 05:14:34 PM
All other leaders must maintain at least the illusion of democracy and free elections, only the leader of North Korea rules as an absolute and untouchable leader and subjects regard him as a deity.
Grandpa, father and son Kim have been the undisputed rulers of North Korea for 3 generations.
There is no similar example in modern history in the world.

Korea is tiny. If the USA had wanted to use the A-bomb on them following WW2, they would have been gone long ago.

Consider that the grandfather of our recent President, George W. Bush, was a U.S. senator who helped Hitler rise to power - "How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar. This is an example of partially covert power running the U.S., and in a treasonous way, at that.

Then his son, George Herbert Walker Bush, 41st President of the U.S., manipulated the U.S. into war in the Middle East... Bush being a former CIA director. Probably the real reason for this was oil, but a second reason was Afghanistan poppy profits here and there.

Then our most recent Bush President helped set up the 9/11 inside job as a cover reason for going further into the ME, and particularly Iraq, which we now see was a great piece of stupidity and foolishness regarding what America gained out of it. Twin Tower and soldier deaths mean nothing to these guys, as long as they can get their profits.

Kim Jong-un and his predecessors, were very small fish when compared with the rule of the Bushes. What is so amazing is that after Grandfather Bush supported Hitler in WW2, that the people would elect his son and grandson to the presidency of the US. Or was it by manipulation of the vote through the hackable electronic voting machines?

How ever you want to look at it, the Bush family has to be one of the greatest manipulators of the world, ever.

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EDIT: All that being said, Bush beans are quite tasty.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: kooboat on September 16, 2019, 08:30:22 PM
In my opinion, I presume the most strongest or influential leader in the world is the US president, at any point in time the US government has a great control on many countries in the world. This makes their leader or president very powerful.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: squatz1 on September 17, 2019, 08:10:17 PM
Probably Xi Jinping for me. Second place would be Putin. The reason being they are both in control of very powerful countries, and they are both intelligent and know what they are doing. This is why I'd put Trump further down the list. He's only in charge because Putin wanted him there.

Putin I would put ahead of Xi Jinping, were it not for the fact that China is more powerful than Russia.

This literally isn't true in the least. This is something that liberals like to say, but it's not something which is true in the least.

It was shown in multiple reports that Putins goal was to sow division in the US, not to put a certain candidate into the office.

I'm not sure whether this is true or not, I've certainly heard the speculation, but I would agree that Trump isn't intelligent enough to be the world's most powerful leader. I suppose it does all come down to the definition of powerful, which obviously can be taken in many ways. If it is in terms of influence, then I would agree the Chinese leader is #1. China's activities in the South China Sea alone are quite astonishing. So I would say Xi is #1 for me too, with the qualification that really whoever is in charge of China would take the top spot, whether it's Xi or someone else.



For the record, Trump is intelligent. He may seem like a bafoon on twitter and when he talks sometimes, but I would throw most of this up to the personality that he's taken up as POTUS. You can't be a dumb person and make the amount of money that he made in his lifetime, and command the amount of respect among people as well.

He also won the presidency through a hostile takeover of the GOP -- so yeah, not an idiot.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: BADecker on September 17, 2019, 11:34:28 PM
Probably Xi Jinping for me. Second place would be Putin. The reason being they are both in control of very powerful countries, and they are both intelligent and know what they are doing. This is why I'd put Trump further down the list. He's only in charge because Putin wanted him there.

Putin I would put ahead of Xi Jinping, were it not for the fact that China is more powerful than Russia.

This literally isn't true in the least. This is something that liberals like to say, but it's not something which is true in the least.

It was shown in multiple reports that Putins goal was to sow division in the US, not to put a certain candidate into the office.

I'm not sure whether this is true or not, I've certainly heard the speculation, but I would agree that Trump isn't intelligent enough to be the world's most powerful leader. I suppose it does all come down to the definition of powerful, which obviously can be taken in many ways. If it is in terms of influence, then I would agree the Chinese leader is #1. China's activities in the South China Sea alone are quite astonishing. So I would say Xi is #1 for me too, with the qualification that really whoever is in charge of China would take the top spot, whether it's Xi or someone else.



For the record, Trump is intelligent. He may seem like a bafoon on twitter and when he talks sometimes, but I would throw most of this up to the personality that he's taken up as POTUS. You can't be a dumb person and make the amount of money that he made in his lifetime, and command the amount of respect among people as well.

He also won the presidency through a hostile takeover of the GOP -- so yeah, not an idiot.

One of the biggest reasons Trump's opponents don't like him, is because he acts like a buffoon. They don't have a clue what he is going to do next, because he changes so much.  But he changes as they change, and as foreign enemies change. This keeps them continually off-balance. That's why they don't like him the most. If he didn't continually change, they could figure out a method to get at him.

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Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: Moonmanmun on September 18, 2019, 07:09:02 PM
I voted for Trump its the truth he is


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: iamsheikhadil on September 22, 2019, 06:45:52 PM
I would say it's Putin as individual lmao. It's like a dictatorship there? He has been president maybe way before my grandfather was born (sacrasm). He knows everything by now about how geo-politics and how stuffs work. And since he's there for so long, he talks less and not driven by political benefits.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: BADecker on September 22, 2019, 08:59:39 PM
I would say it's Putin as individual lmao. It's like a dictatorship there? He has been president maybe way before my grandfather was born (sacrasm). He knows everything by now about how geo-politics and how stuffs work. And since he's there for so long, he talks less and not driven by political benefits.

And because he knows it all, he knows to toe the line when it comes to obeying the superrich, hidden leaders of the world... or else. Just like Trump and all the others, btw.

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Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: ChiBitCTy on September 28, 2019, 04:28:11 AM
All of those "leaders" are subject to control and influence by the real world elite. The strongest are in the ruling dynasties of the Rothschilds, The Vatican, and the British Crown.

I agree with you, none of these leaders have any real power.  The real controllers are behind the scenes pulling the strings and people like Trump is just a puppet.  Whoever controls the banking system has the ultimate power.



Kim Jong is the definition of a dictator with nearly total and complete control of his nation. Putin and Xi Jinping are semi-dictators that operate largely under a ruse and have a heck of a lot of power in their own right.  Trump doesn’t nearly hold the same power as these other “leaders” but has powers of his own that aren’t completely controlled by the senate/big corporations.

Imo all terrible human beings. Sad.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: Naida_BR on September 28, 2019, 06:13:42 AM
In my opinion, I presume the most strongest or influential leader in the world is the US president, at any point in time the US government has a great control on many countries in the world. This makes their leader or president very powerful.

The US president is powerful as a role, but Trump as an individual is not so powerful.
HE actually inherits the authority that his role gives him. There are more powerful leaders who are powerful due to their personality.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: yoseph on September 28, 2019, 08:39:22 AM
The Chinese and Russian presidents undoubtedly are very powerful in their respective countries but when it comes to POWER, Allies are very much important ad with that i believe that the US President is the srongest leader especially when you look at NATO and its economic strength and millitary prowess.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: iv4n on September 28, 2019, 05:27:46 PM
For me the strongest leader was José Mujica, Uruguayan ex president. He donated 90% of his monthly salary to charities, he drive his old Volkswagen, and he continued to live in his country house even thou he could use Presidential Palaces.
Without bodyguards, without expensive suits, cars.. one of the most amazing pictures of him was when he waited in hospital like in a public hospital!
This is the strongest leader of them all!
https://pics.me.me/jos%C3%A9-mujica-president-of-uruguay-waiting-his-turn-in-a-12641285.png


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: Razick on September 28, 2019, 08:01:47 PM
Kim Jeong Un


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: clickerz on September 29, 2019, 09:05:44 AM
For me the strongest leader was José Mujica, Uruguayan ex president. He donated 90% of his monthly salary to charities, he drive his old Volkswagen, and he continued to live in his country house even thou he could use Presidential Palaces.
Without bodyguards, without expensive suits, cars.. one of the most amazing pictures of him was when he waited in hospital like in a public hospital!
This is the strongest leader of them all!
https://pics.me.me/jos%C3%A9-mujica-president-of-uruguay-waiting-his-turn-in-a-12641285.png

I admired this humble president. This leader should be emulated by other leader. A person whose heart is on the poor and having a big heart to extend resources to those in need.

Article below is a good read.

Leaders are more powerful when they’re humble, new research shows (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2016/12/08/leaders-are-more-powerful-when-theyre-humble-new-research-shows/)


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: rocku12345 on September 30, 2019, 11:10:24 AM
Strength is not a real indicator. We should look at the attitude towards people in their countries and that is the true factor.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: bitcoin-shark on September 30, 2019, 07:53:19 PM

i believe that the most powerful leader in his country is Kim Jong Un, who i believe has only few opponents within the country and his decisions are never discussed, and there are no interference from other countries in internal affairs thanks to the atomic deterrent...


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: Lapatai on October 10, 2019, 11:42:13 AM
If strongest you mean by diplomatically conquering other lands, that there is no doubt Putin
If strongest is the respect, fear and obedience - Kin Jon Un
If the strongest is for making his country economically strong - then I would say leader of China or UAE.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: protEr on October 10, 2019, 12:21:10 PM
This is simple, anybody who is the sitting president of the USA is the most powerful man of the world, thanks to the financial muscle and government machinery at his exposal


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: inanilujimi on October 10, 2019, 01:42:40 PM
For me the strongest leader was José Mujica, Uruguayan ex president. He donated 90% of his monthly salary to charities, he drive his old Volkswagen, and he continued to live in his country house even thou he could use Presidential Palaces.
Without bodyguards, without expensive suits, cars.. one of the most amazing pictures of him was when he waited in hospital like in a public hospital!
This is the strongest leader of them all!
https://pics.me.me/jos%C3%A9-mujica-president-of-uruguay-waiting-his-turn-in-a-12641285.png


I agree with this statement, the leader for me is a person who is willing to sacrifice for the sake of the people, not the other way to sacrifice the people for personal gain.
A strong leader is not someone who can destroy everything but who can unite everything.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: johnpaul94 on October 11, 2019, 10:22:10 AM
Definitely Nigerian president ....age 86 and still gunning for more Years in the office while battling with serious health problems


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: Naida_BR on October 11, 2019, 05:21:25 PM
Definitely Nigerian president ....age 86 and still gunning for more Years in the office while battling with serious health problems

This doesn't make him power.
Little to no people are aware of who is exactly the Nigerian president. He might be only powerful or corrupted so as to be president for so many years.
The powerful presidency comes from the fact that he controls the international events.


Title: Re: world Strongest leader?
Post by: aiguy on September 06, 2020, 10:33:17 AM
I think in this option one person should be more added who is the supreme leader of Iran. he is not only an Irani leader but also a great leader of Shia Muslim all over the world.