Title: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: yahoo62278 on September 11, 2019, 06:24:01 AM I had my old list up for almost 3 years now and while it's not a huge list, it is big enough that I forget why half of the users have even been added to it. Old list can be found BLACKLIST (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1661654.msg16680971#msg16680971).
In the spirit of forgive and forget, I would like to give 99.9% of the users of the forum a fresh start. The new list will contain users from the most recent payouts who were banned for various reasons, mainly spamming/burstposting. I will be keeping separate lists in this thread as well. I don't want to have the same problem as I do now and forget why I even added someone to the lists. I also will only review accounts that are on the spamming/burstposting list. All other lists are permanent. They will get no review nor have a chance to be removed. I have been allowing neg trusted accounts into campaigns depending on the reason they have been tagged. With the New DT system we have, it's quite possible to see lots of users tagged by new DT users from the past who may not have revised their ratings yet. Also, some users just don't understand the trust system and do a lot of retaliatory tagging. Each person who applies with a tag will be reviewed regardless to see if they can still qualify for a campaign. The lists will be divided into 3 groups. -Spammers/Burstposters- These users are eligible for a review after 3 months of being added to the list. Everyone can change their posting habits but I think they need a cooling off period to prove themselves. Staying inactive for 3 months once put on the list, will not get you off the list. Burstposting definition- A person that makes a posts then 1-5 minutes later makes another, and another, and another. I will not add someone here for burstposting if they have 1 post right after another every once in awhile. Sometimes a person reads the forum and makes a reply, then sees another topic they have a constructive reply for, but if quite a few of your posts are 1 right after the other, then you'll find yourself here. -Cheaters- These users will be on their own list for being caught cheating in campaigns. Adding their alts, abusing giveaways sites may hold, etc. If you have an account enrolled in a campaign already and apply with an alt as well to the same campaign, I consider that scummy as hell and attempted cheating. You will be blacklisted. -Scammers & Rule breakers- These users will also have their own list. These users may not have even enrolled into a campaign, but have been caught scamming. I will frequently check the scam accusations section for users where the evidence proves them guilty. Anyone who is ban evading will also make this list. -Assholes- All around assholes will be added as well, I don't have to deal with abusive users and will not. Signature campaigns are a privilege not a right. These are the lost causes. Spammers/Burstposters Code: $Andreyka$ Cheaters Code: Astargath Scammers & Rule breakers Code: Apriand Assholes Code: chronicsky Hopefully everyone stays off of these lists, but obviously that's not gonna happen. I encourage users to report spammers, scammers, and cheaters to me if they are in my campaigns. Have a good day and good luck to everyone the rest of 2019. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: AB de Royse777 on September 11, 2019, 06:33:46 AM I have been allowing neg trusted accounts into campaigns depending on the reason they have been tagged. With the New DT system we have, it's quite possible to see lots of users tagged by new DT users from the past who may not have revised their ratings yet. Also, some users just don't understand the trust system and do a lot of retaliatory tagging. Each person who applies with a tag will be reviewed regardless to see if they can still qualify for a campaign. This is a very positive move. I do notice a lot of retaliatory tagging lately and with this new DT system anyone can be victim of an unfair tag. However in my opinion, a user with red flag (type 2 and 3) should be avoided being in a bitcoin paid campaign. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: yahoo62278 on September 11, 2019, 06:37:33 AM I have been allowing neg trusted accounts into campaigns depending on the reason they have been tagged. With the New DT system we have, it's quite possible to see lots of users tagged by new DT users from the past who may not have revised their ratings yet. Also, some users just don't understand the trust system and do a lot of retaliatory tagging. Each person who applies with a tag will be reviewed regardless to see if they can still qualify for a campaign. This is a very positive move. I do notice a lot of retaliatory tagging lately and with this new DT system anyone can be victim of an unfair tag. However in my opinion, a user with red flag (type 2 and 3) should be avoided being in a bitcoin paid campaign. Also added my definition of burstposting to the OP so no one has an excuse that they don't know what that is. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: TECSHARE on September 11, 2019, 07:04:51 AM Out of curiosity, why is Astargath on that list? Don't worry I am not here to argue with you, I am just genuinely curious what the concern is based on.
Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: Little Mouse on September 11, 2019, 07:07:57 AM Out of curiosity, why is Astargath on that list? Don't worry I am not here to argue with you, I am just genuinely curious what the concern is based on. As I can see a neg tag on Astargath profile from yahoo, he has attempted to cheat Mintdice signature campaign with his alt account Bardman. You can see both the user in the list.Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: yahoo62278 on September 11, 2019, 07:08:04 AM Out of curiosity, why is Astargath on that list? Don't worry I am not here to argue with you, I am just genuinely curious what the concern is based on. I was sent a pm with the 2 accounts in that list connected with each other. Now take a look at MintDice sig campaign and you'll see Astargath is in the campaign(was at least) and Bardman recently applied. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: cizatext on September 11, 2019, 07:18:52 AM Sir yahoo have been very effect, just and straight forward in his management system, he don't just tag user for unjust reason like other DT member does so any one that is tag by yahoo the whole community have to be careful about that account. And again sir yahoo I applaud you on the 99.9% forgiveness on your old blacklisted users indeed in the spirit of forgiveness there is always mercy.
Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: YOSHIE on September 11, 2019, 08:37:21 AM @ yahoo62278, I appreciate you as a professional global campaign manager. As far as I know the manager speaks based on strong and valid evidence, against cheating participants, and so on.
However, why don't you show one proof that @Bardman and @Astargath are alt accounts. Try to see this ETH, BTC address. belongs to Bardman and Astargath Related Addresses: Code: ETH: 0x1644aC14aa9C682a3B79533EA8A3a07E9Ff57eD3 And check the Evidence profile below, it's proven that the two alt accounts in your campaign are managing. Accounts Connected: 1. Bardman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459805) Proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115414.msg50224516#msg50224516 http://archive.is/FkWc4 2. b1tcoinm4ster (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2388637) Proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5026256.msg45538982#msg45538982 http://archive.is/rtBZH 3. XinXan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=440960) Proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4456572.msg39944104#msg39944104 http://archive.is/DfCbG 4. Astargath (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459781) Proof: Bitcointalk username: Astargath Bitcointalk profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459781 Current post count (Including this post): 4870 Amount of earned merit in the last 120 days: 16 BTC Address: 14u96JAhKtEuMVomRm7J1cxKmnpTpRjGxq http://archive.is/hVxDR 5. Bardman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459805) Proof: Quote Btctalk name: Bardman Rank: Hero BTC Address: 14u96JAhKtEuMVomRm7J1cxKmnpTpRjGxq Wear Appropriate Signature: Yes Wear Personal Text: Yes Wear Avatar: Yes http://archive.is/euPxq Miscellaneous: This will help you to validate your proof. (Reference) @Bardman 1. Topic: MintDice Signature Campaign(FULL) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5176221.msg52395800#msg52395800) archive (http://archive.is/Wj1VN) @Astargath 2. Topic: MintDice Signature Campaign(FULL) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5176221.msg52180196#msg52180196) archive (http://archive.is/ARlzd) Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: habibruis on September 11, 2019, 10:15:45 AM 99.9% forgiveness of old blacklisted! this is a rare example. Thank you for your kind-hearted decision for users Who want or find more chance. You are truly a man of honest and forgiving personality.
Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: Steamtyme on September 12, 2019, 01:21:00 AM This will help you to validate your proof. It didn't need to be validated, someone sent him a PM with the proof as they were attempting to cheat a campaign he was managing. You could always use that in the list of Alts thread or something, maybe it gets tied to others who knows. Yahoo, good on you. It's always nice to see fresh starts and allowing people to see the result of changing shit behaviors. You are being real generous as I believe you busted a campaign cheater just a couple months back and left them off the list. I'm guessing people should still realize they aren't guaranteed acceptance now, and could always wind up back on the shitlist. I'm sure there are other managers who appreciate you keeping a public listing. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: LoyceV on September 12, 2019, 06:05:44 AM Burstposting definition- A person that makes a posts then 1-5 minutes later makes another, and another, and another. I will not add someone here for burstposting if they have 1 post right after another every once in awhile. Sometimes a person reads the forum and makes a reply, then sees another topic they have a constructive reply for, but if quite a few of your posts are 1 right after the other, then you'll find yourself here. I think I fit this definition, but I'd like to think I'm not a spammer. Apart from just posting a lot, I often prepare posts for a long time, then post them all at once. But I assume you also check the quality of those posts, and in most cases burst posting indeed doesn't produce quality.Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: AB de Royse777 on September 12, 2019, 06:36:31 AM Burstposting definition- A person that makes a posts then 1-5 minutes later makes another, and another, and another. I will not add someone here for burstposting if they have 1 post right after another every once in awhile. Sometimes a person reads the forum and makes a reply, then sees another topic they have a constructive reply for, but if quite a few of your posts are 1 right after the other, then you'll find yourself here. I think I fit this definition, but I'd like to think I'm not a spammer. Apart from just posting a lot, I often prepare posts for a long time, then post them all at once. But I assume you also check the quality of those posts, and in most cases burst posting indeed doesn't produce quality.Quote A person that makes a posts then 1-5 minutes later makes another, and another, and another. In some cases I also fit in this criteria but I do not think it's what I intend to do. I am online most of the time. I have notifications on almost for all the boards. I also have notification on for some topics I follow. So making few quick posts is basically a very normal occurrence for me.I think this explains all and differ some of us who post a lot. Quote Sometimes a person reads the forum and makes a reply, then sees another topic they have a constructive reply for Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: Distinctin on September 12, 2019, 07:03:31 AM In the spirit of forgive and forget, I would like to give 99.9% of the users of the forum a fresh start. The new list will contain users from the most recent payouts who were banned for various reasons, mainly spamming/burstposting. That's very generous of you, the decision is good for forgiving spamming/burstposting since a member can learn from his mistake and he can also improve if he wish to be accepted in your campaign again. This is a new opportunity for those who are in the old list, so hopefully they will try their best this time to follow the rules all the time and to contribute in the forum as well. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: UmerIdrees on September 12, 2019, 03:25:18 PM In the spirit of forgive and forget, I would like to give 99.9% of the users of the forum a fresh start. The new list will contain users from the most recent payouts who were banned for various reasons, mainly spamming/burstposting. I will be keeping separate lists in this thread as well. I don't want to have the same problem as I do now and forget why I even added someone to the lists. I also will only review accounts that are on the spamming/burstposting list. All other lists are permanent. They will get no review nor have a chance to be removed. I have been allowing neg trusted accounts into campaigns depending on the reason they have been tagged. This decision of your may bring new culture in this forum. Its been a feeling here that once you are in the "Bad List" of any DT Member, you will always have to remain there. It seems like a Jail with no bail :D But this will be a healthy step for those who want to improve themselves. With the New DT system we have, it's quite possible to see lots of users tagged by new DT users from the past who may not have revised their ratings yet. Don't you think it is the responsibly of the New DT Members also to check & revise their ratings from time to time and not just tag and forget ? Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: yahoo62278 on September 12, 2019, 04:00:02 PM Don't you think it is the responsibly of the New DT Members also to check & revise their ratings from time to time and not just tag and forget ? Depends on the reason they were tagged. Decided to change a list and make assholes have their own list. Rule breakers will be grouped in with the scammers. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: Hhampuz on September 12, 2019, 06:43:24 PM Great initiative by the greatest manager. Well done yahoo!
Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 12, 2019, 06:52:52 PM 99.9% forgiveness of old blacklisted! this is a rare example. It is indeed rare--but I betcha that if the members of the old list are still active here, they'll eventually start pulling the same crap. Maybe that's me being pessimistic, but a lot of shitposters just don't have it in them to make well thought out posts and to not post-burst, etc.In any case, there aren't a hell of a lot of signature campaigns around anymore anyway, are there? I have the Services section on ignore, but last I checked there were only a handful of them--and from what I've heard there aren't even that many bounties around either. So the forgiveness might actually be somewhat of a moot point. Don't you think it is the responsibly of the New DT Members also to check & revise their ratings from time to time and not just tag and forget ? Eh, I don't review my tags periodically but if someone PMs me asking to get a negative removed I do listen to their request and will remove a feedback if enough time has passed and there haven't been any further instances of shenanigans. In fact I did exactly that for a member about 3 days ago. But it's been my experience that most negs members earn probably deserve to stay put.Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: UmerIdrees on September 14, 2019, 12:53:47 PM Don't you think it is the responsibly of the New DT Members also to check & revise their ratings from time to time and not just tag and forget ? Eh, I don't review my tags periodically but if someone PMs me asking to get a negative removed I do listen to their request and will remove a feedback if enough time has passed and there haven't been any further instances of shenanigans. In fact I did exactly that for a member about 3 days ago. But it's been my experience that most negs members earn probably deserve to stay put.There are spammers here and there who are always complaining about this system and its a general perception that DT members are rude and never listen to the people. You reviewed a member 3 days ago and probably remove the tag if he had improved. No one in the forum knew about it. :-\ There is always a black listing and spammer listing thing everywhere. Will it be good if you people also list the members whom you got their tag removed and they have become better . If these positive things are made public that will encourage other people too and the wrong perceptions will also change. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: Findingnemo on September 15, 2019, 04:08:15 AM If these positive things are made public that will encourage other people too and the wrong perceptions will also change. But it will create some chaos into his PM,people will start PMing him about to review their tags and convincing them to remove it which may kill DT members time.What can be done is make a thread here for the people who want their tag to be reviewed again. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: UmerIdrees on September 15, 2019, 07:34:46 AM If these positive things are made public that will encourage other people too and the wrong perceptions will also change. But it will create some chaos into his PM,people will start PMing him about to review their tags and convincing them to remove it which may kill DT members time.What can be done is make a thread here for the people who want their tag to be reviewed again. That won't help either because then everyone would spam the thread to review their tags. There could be an automated system whereby a button appears in front of the tag after certain time period (e.g 3 months) and a request can be sent to the person who gave the tag to be reviewed. If he request is declined the next and final review button will appear after 6 months. Something like this will prevent the spam and also help those who want to improve themselves. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: Findingnemo on September 15, 2019, 08:19:19 AM If these positive things are made public that will encourage other people too and the wrong perceptions will also change. But it will create some chaos into his PM,people will start PMing him about to review their tags and convincing them to remove it which may kill DT members time.What can be done is make a thread here for the people who want their tag to be reviewed again. That won't help either because then everyone would spam the thread to review their tags. There could be an automated system whereby a button appears in front of the tag after certain time period (e.g 3 months) and a request can be sent to the person who gave the tag to be reviewed. If he request is declined the next and final review button will appear after 6 months. Something like this will prevent the spam and also help those who want to improve themselves. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: yahoo62278 on September 15, 2019, 12:15:03 PM If these positive things are made public that will encourage other people too and the wrong perceptions will also change. But it will create some chaos into his PM,people will start PMing him about to review their tags and convincing them to remove it which may kill DT members time.What can be done is make a thread here for the people who want their tag to be reviewed again. That won't help either because then everyone would spam the thread to review their tags. There could be an automated system whereby a button appears in front of the tag after certain time period (e.g 3 months) and a request can be sent to the person who gave the tag to be reviewed. If he request is declined the next and final review button will appear after 6 months. Something like this will prevent the spam and also help those who want to improve themselves. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: mangoleaf on September 15, 2019, 06:12:55 PM I think burstposting isn't really a bad thing because some people are exceptionally fast readers and typers, You should probably be more leinent on burstposting.
Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: yahoo62278 on September 19, 2019, 02:38:02 PM I think burstposting isn't really a bad thing because some people are exceptionally fast readers and typers, You should probably be more leinent on burstposting. If a user is a burstposter then they can be burstposters not in campaigns unless the posts are super constructive and on point. Most times that's not the case though. Campaigns are a privilege, not a right. Users are not entitled to be in campaigns. If they cannot attempt to follow the managers rules, then they should not try to join. Special thanks to TalkStar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2136362). Added all the Loan defaulters from his LIST (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185763.0). Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: TalkStar on September 19, 2019, 05:41:34 PM If a user is a burstposter then they can be burstposters not in campaigns unless the posts are super constructive and on point. Most times that's not the case though. Campaigns are a privilege, not a right. Users are not entitled to be in campaigns. If they cannot attempt to follow the managers rules, then they should not try to join. Its better to make 1 quality post rather than 100 useless. Yeah its true that to fulfill campaign rules sometime participants need to increase his activity but it doesn't mean that he will have to choose the way of burstposting or spamming. If he isn't able to maintain his post standard then its pretty much clear that he isn't worthy of that spot to continue his campaign. Special thanks to TalkStar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2136362). Added all the Loan defaulters from his LIST (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185763.0). Glad to see those scammers in your list. Thanks Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: UmerIdrees on September 21, 2019, 05:11:45 AM I think burstposting isn't really a bad thing because some people are exceptionally fast readers and typers, You should probably be more leinent on burstposting. See the definition of burst posting. You need to be super human to be able to read first and then write constructively in less than 5 mins and keep on repeating the process. Burstposting definition- A person that makes a posts then 1-5 minutes later makes another, and another, and another. I will not add someone here for burstposting if they have 1 post right after another every once in awhile. Sometimes a person reads the forum and makes a reply, then sees another topic they have a constructive reply for, but if quite a few of your posts are 1 right after the other, then you'll find yourself here. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: crwth on September 26, 2019, 12:53:10 PM I hope this becomes a Global standard in BTCT. Like every manager uses this kind of system and rulings so that everyone would know how to follow and what to follow, correctly. I think it could be applied here in the forum just like the different ISO standards that are agreed upon on different industries.
Maybe it could increase the quality of members partaking in the signature campaign too. Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: yahoo62278 on October 27, 2019, 12:20:11 PM OP has been updated with all the current spammers from cryptotalk campaign. Will update the cheaters and other sections when I have time.
Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: Sadlife on October 27, 2019, 01:15:11 PM OP has been updated with all the current spammers from cryptotalk campaign. Will update the cheaters and other sections when I have time. from the updated OP this is what i think new and unique list..looking forward for whom will be added ;DAssholes Code: chronicsky Title: Re: New Sig Spammer/Blacklist (Clean start for all) Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on October 27, 2019, 11:59:40 PM from the updated OP this is what i think new and unique list..looking forward for whom will be added ;D Assholes Code: Vadi2323 Edit: I surely hadn't looked into the list yet before i made the comment, I thought @Sadlife was suggesting them to be added... my bad. |