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Title: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: ALPHA. on November 14, 2011, 04:50:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLjZoA3GaVE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Goldstein; 14 points of Fascism

3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause

The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: ALPHA. on November 14, 2011, 06:19:47 PM
Congratulations. You've discovered what everyone who reads CNN knows already.

I wish you were right, Matthew.


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: kokjo on November 14, 2011, 06:27:38 PM
congratulation! you two have just made it to my ignore list.


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: terrytibbs on November 14, 2011, 06:37:25 PM
http://gentlemanredux.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/11.17.10-The-Chase.jpg


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: kokjo on November 14, 2011, 06:40:11 PM
+1 nice dog :)


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: Jalum on November 14, 2011, 06:41:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLjZoA3GaVE

Do you consider Russia Today to be a trustworthy source of journalism?


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: ALPHA. on November 14, 2011, 06:46:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLjZoA3GaVE

Do you consider Russia Today to be a trustworthy source of journalism?

On anything besides local Russian news. Haha. They have little to no incentive to distort information elsewhere. Russia is pretty sovereign to foreign interests.


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: Jalum on November 15, 2011, 07:54:49 PM
They have little to no incentive to distort information elsewhere. Russia is pretty sovereign to foreign interests.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)#Controversies_and_criticisms

Do you believe Osama bin Laden died this year and in the way the US Government reported it?


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: ALPHA. on November 15, 2011, 09:46:16 PM
They have little to no incentive to distort information elsewhere. Russia is pretty sovereign to foreign interests.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)#Controversies_and_criticisms

Do you believe Osama bin Laden died this year and in the way the US Government reported it?


I question the legitimacy of who Osama Bin Laden is overall.


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: ElectricMucus on November 15, 2011, 09:51:17 PM
I'll do it.

But now you have to let me in on the Drama.  :P


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: Jalum on November 16, 2011, 06:37:06 PM
I question the legitimacy of who Osama Bin Laden is overall.

You didn't answer my question.


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: ALPHA. on November 16, 2011, 06:38:05 PM
I question the legitimacy of who Osama Bin Laden is overall.

You didn't answer my question.
I don't know. I certainly don't trust the US's reporting considering Osama has only benefited their destructive war policy.


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: Jalum on November 19, 2011, 04:08:44 PM
I don't know. I certainly don't trust the US's reporting considering Osama has only benefited their destructive war policy.

Again, you didn't answer my question.  I didn't ask you for facts, I asked you for what you believed.


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: Snapman on November 19, 2011, 05:10:15 PM
infowars.com


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: rainingbitcoins on November 19, 2011, 10:39:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLjZoA3GaVE

Do you consider Russia Today to be a trustworthy source of journalism?

The source here seems to be the words of an American ex-CIA agent who currently teaches a graduate course on Al Qaeda at Georgetown University.

Just because Atlas posted something doesn't automatically mean it's wrong. Only usually.

http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Hope-C-I-Interventions-II--Updated/dp/1567512526

That book was written by a Pulitzer Prize winner and has hundreds of sourced quotes from ex-CIA saying mainly the same sort of thing.


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: ALPHA. on November 20, 2011, 12:06:04 AM
I don't know. I certainly don't trust the US's reporting considering Osama has only benefited their destructive war policy.

Again, you didn't answer my question.  I didn't ask you for facts, I asked you for what you believed.
I believe in facts.


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Agent: America creates its own enemies
Post by: Maged on November 20, 2011, 02:57:38 AM
I'm just gonna close this, since I foresee nothing constructive coming out of this thread at this point. The OP has been answered sufficiently.