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Title: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: rexxarofmoknathal on September 19, 2019, 07:16:23 PM
So it looks like KSI and Logan Paul are going to be having their rematch on November 9, after more than a year of waiting.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/RE5TMrpIVWzpmpjXgeV03BAMTdA=/0x0:1920x1080/1200x800/filters:focal(804x128:1110x434)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/65163987/EDjbXdCXoAE0Cuk_2.0.jpeg

Who do you think will win the rematch? Odds currently have Logan Paul as the slight favorite, whereas several pro boxers have said it's too hard to call.

https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/ksi-v-logan-paul/winner


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: Ranly123 on September 19, 2019, 10:24:41 PM
So it looks like KSI and Logan Paul are going to be having their rematch on November 9, after more than a year of waiting.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/RE5TMrpIVWzpmpjXgeV03BAMTdA=/0x0:1920x1080/1200x800/filters:focal(804x128:1110x434)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/65163987/EDjbXdCXoAE0Cuk_2.0.jpeg

Who do you think will win the rematch? Odds currently have Logan Paul as the slight favorite, whereas several pro boxers have said it's too hard to call.

https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/ksi-v-logan-paul/winner

Logan has a light edge over KSI since he is mch bigger and much taller fighter. But I guess if we base on quickness, then KSI is above Logan. That's the reason why it's hard to predict which of the two will be the Victor of this rematch. Their first match has been a draw and I think it will also be on their next match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: batang_bitcoin on September 19, 2019, 10:39:31 PM
I didn't know these guys but I've heard about Logan Paul, these are the people popular on youtube, right? Can someone give me the brief reason why these two had their match before?
With this rematch they've got now, this is going to earn them too much money again. Since these two are well known personalities on the popular video sharing site, youtube. I didn't know the whole story why they made up themselves up to a fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: FlightyPouch on September 19, 2019, 10:40:41 PM
I don't recognize their last match since it is a game-changer in terms of the YouTube stars and then they get a draw, it is really disappointing. I won't be expecting much in this match, all I know is that Logan can win this game with a knockout as long as he keeps his fuel on check. If this did not end up in a knockout, then KSI will probably win. You heard it here first.

I didn't know these guys but I've heard about Logan Paul, these are the people popular on youtube, right? Can someone give me the brief reason why these two had their match before?
With this rematch they've got now, this is going to earn them too much money again. Since these two are well known personalities on the popular video sharing site, youtube. I didn't know the whole story why they made up themselves up to a fight.

Well, it started with Joe Weller where KSI won and at that time, Paul Brothers are trending on YouTube that is why KSI challenged initially Jake Paul but it ends up him fighting Logan Paul. More information here, standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/why-do-ksi-and-logan-paul-have-beef-history-of-youtube-stars-feud-a3919716.html (http://standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/why-do-ksi-and-logan-paul-have-beef-history-of-youtube-stars-feud-a3919716.html)


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: batang_bitcoin on September 19, 2019, 11:12:26 PM
Well, it started with Joe Weller where KSI won and at that time, Paul Brothers are trending on YouTube that is why KSI challenged initially Jake Paul but it ends up him fighting Logan Paul. More information here, standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/why-do-ksi-and-logan-paul-have-beef-history-of-youtube-stars-feud-a3919716.html (http://standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/why-do-ksi-and-logan-paul-have-beef-history-of-youtube-stars-feud-a3919716.html)
Thanks!
So that really didn't came from them directly so there's the story, I'll read on how these started to take on fights. By the way, are there casinos that will start to consider this fight and list it on their bookies? I think many will put their money ready on their purses for their fight especially the fans of the both sides.


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: ene1980 on September 19, 2019, 11:52:38 PM
So it looks like KSI and Logan Paul are going to be having their rematch on November 9, after more than a year of waiting.
Anything can happen with the boxing commission with Conor McGregor making his professional debut against 49-0 Mayweather and now a rematch with two entertainers and that too a professional bout  ::). They could have fought with head gears on and the first fight was a majority draw and hope they will not die in the ring as i am not sure of their credentials yet but looks like two stunt egos clashing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: pereira4 on September 20, 2019, 12:33:19 AM
So it looks like KSI and Logan Paul are going to be having their rematch on November 9, after more than a year of waiting.
Anything can happen with the boxing commission with Conor McGregor making his professional debut against 49-0 Mayweather and now a rematch with two entertainers and that too a professional bout  ::). They could have fought with head gears on and the first fight was a majority draw and hope they will not die in the ring as i am not sure of their credentials yet but looks like two stunt egos clashing.

You can't compare a seasoned martial artist like McGregor, two time world champion at the UFC and with an history in amateury boxing background, to two fucking Youtubers turned pro after one amateur fight. What can I tell you? Eddie Hearn is in between a shameful clown a genius. He is going to make truckloads of money with this, everyone will tune in to watch the fight, and Vegas gambling will be popping for that weekend.

The way I see it is that net result is a positive one. While it diminishes the seriousness of professional boxing, at the same time you get millions of kids tunning in and hopefully some of them will stick around for the real thing.

As far as the fight itself, don't sleep on Logal Paul tho. The kid can fight, he has an amazing physique, he did decent last time. He was clearly winning the fight, but gassed out and KSI did a good job capitalizing on that. If Logan Paul has fixed his stamina issues I can see him taking out KSI inside 6 rounds. I will bet a +1 on Logan's record on this one just to spice it up while I watch. I'll need to look at the odds first tho.


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: crwth on September 20, 2019, 12:37:46 AM
What about trying to look at the previous fight they had. We all know they had a draw, two judges voted with the same score and one judge was in favor of KSI.

Analyzing this more, it's said that KSI was inspired to go pro after going in the ring saying that

Quote from: TMZSports (23 July 2018)
I wanna squeeze out every bit of relevancy from him (Logan Paul) and then move onto my bigger goal which is to go pro - KSI [1]

I probably would think that KSI would win this rematch. It's all about his dedication and checking that he would fight professionally. It's also good to consider the amount that he earned during their match, I think it's a lot of money too.



Reference

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KSI_vs._Logan_Paul#Fight_card


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: NavI_027 on September 20, 2019, 12:58:24 AM
WTF! Are they even serious for this? I mean, I think one is enough and two is too many. They should not fight once again mainly because they're not pro, it could be dangerous for both of them whatever you'll say. Yeah! I know they have a thing which needs to be settled (since their last match was a draw) but much better if they'll do it now in legal manner. Enough for this public stunt, they should starting to talk each other — man to man — because violence to resolve a problem is not the right solution at all.


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: Ararbermas on September 20, 2019, 01:47:34 AM
Now they will fight with no head protection and in my own opinion if there's a draw again.  It's totally a entertainment only. Lol and if we put money on the line it will be a waste of time again like literally!  .  Recently logan Paul said that they are now professional boxer i hope it will not become a kid fight again.  ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: mich on September 20, 2019, 03:08:19 AM
They are just kids but they are fighting at Cruiserweightt so weights are as follows:
The current weight limit for the division is 200 pounds (14 stone 4 pounds / 90.7 kg).
This is a coin toss fight its only 6 rounds so anything can happen and much better not to bet


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: acroman08 on September 20, 2019, 04:01:49 AM
these fight is all about publicity and money both of them are not a fighter but an actor there will be no meaning to their fight and will be  just a waste of time to watch these two fight.
I'd rather listen to a justin bieber song than to watch these two. what surprise me is that there are peoples who are willing to watch this two and think it will be a fight worth to watch.


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: Janation on September 20, 2019, 04:08:19 AM
So that really didn't came from them directly so there's the story, I'll read on how these started to take on fights. By the way, are there casinos that will start to consider this fight and list it on their bookies? I think many will put their money ready on their purses for their fight especially the fans of the both sides.

I'm not a fan of these content creators but I do love to watch the boxers.

I agree though that the last result is so bad that people are just thinking they are scammed and that is just a way so that these two can earn good money.

Another thing is that I am surprised that this is just a 6 rounds match, I think that is a bit short and I agree that anything can happen so I would just watch and not bet on it, it's not like I will be betting on it in the first place.


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: ene1980 on September 20, 2019, 04:24:49 AM
You can't compare a seasoned martial artist like McGregor, two time world champion at the UFC and with an history in amateury boxing background, to two fucking Youtubers turned pro after one amateur fight. What can I tell you? Eddie Hearn is in between a shameful clown a genius. He is going to make truckloads of money with this, everyone will tune in to watch the fight, and Vegas gambling will be popping for that weekend.
If you remember in MMA during UFC 223, they were scrambling to find an opponent for Khabib in the last moment and after many refused including Petis they finalized on Paul Felder who had 19 MMA fights during that time but the commission did not allow him to fight because he was well below the rankings and they deemed that too dangerous to fight an elite level fighter like Khabib and finally Al Iaquinta was given the shot. If you take that decision as standard then you cannot have a debut fight against 49-0 opponent :).

If Logan Paul has fixed his stamina issues I can see him taking out KSI inside 6 rounds. I will bet a +1 on Logan's record on this one just to spice it up while I watch. I'll need to look at the odds first tho.
If Logan Paul gassed out in their last fight i will wage a bet that he will gas out again as you cannot magically fix your cardio issues just like that. It will take years to fix that by constant hard work and dedication.



Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: batang_bitcoin on September 20, 2019, 09:09:12 AM
So that really didn't came from them directly so there's the story, I'll read on how these started to take on fights. By the way, are there casinos that will start to consider this fight and list it on their bookies? I think many will put their money ready on their purses for their fight especially the fans of the both sides.

I'm not a fan of these content creators but I do love to watch the boxers.

I agree though that the last result is so bad that people are just thinking they are scammed and that is just a way so that these two can earn good money.

Another thing is that I am surprised that this is just a 6 rounds match, I think that is a bit short and I agree that anything can happen so I would just watch and not bet on it, it's not like I will be betting on it in the first place.
I haven't watched the first fight of these two but it seems that content creators like them are really making money off their viewers who are intrigue of their dramas.
Just like one of the most favorite vloggers quote: "Drama is good for the vlog". Well, this isn't really an official boxing match and they can create their own rules because it's them that officiate it so 6 rounds of match is probably normal for them.


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: TravelMug on September 20, 2019, 09:14:28 AM
Lol, these two are just amateur boxers, who rose to prominence when they fight and viewed on YouTube's pay-per-view. So they are Youtube stars not pro boxers. But the thing is, they had like 1 million ppv numbers and that is huge, only superstars like Floyd and Manny can command that viewerships.

And that is why DAZN ride on the popularity and willing to take the risk to show them to the boxing community. They are going to fight without head gear this time, can you imagine that?

But as a boxing fans, I'll pass, this is just a mockery of the sport period. This is just like the celebrity boxing rematch.



Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: mu_enrico on September 20, 2019, 01:10:40 PM
The previous fight wasn't that bad actually, not like what people predicted. But still, they both ain't a boxer. Logan Paul outclassed KSI but don't have the heart to beat KSI lol.

If nothing changed, Logan should easily trash KSI this time ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: DarkDays on September 20, 2019, 02:58:17 PM
The previous fight wasn't that bad actually, not like what people predicted. But still, they both ain't a boxer. Logan Paul outclassed KSI but don't have the heart to beat KSI lol.

If nothing changed, Logan should easily trash KSI this time ;D

Well Logan gassed within like 2 rounds last time, then almost got blown out in the final round—he was literally hanging by a thread.

If neither of them had headgear on in the first fight, then Logan would have gotten blitzed.

Then again, Logan said he's been training this entire time. JJ doesn't look like he has but later claimed he was also training. I think Logan wins if they keep it technical, JJ wins if it comes to a swingup.


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: dothebeats on September 20, 2019, 05:00:33 PM
I would take KSI any day, knowing how hard he made Logan Paul work on the first fight that they had. Also, Logan is more of a prick and not really a fighter at all. He's doing it for the clout as the young ones call it on vines and whatnot. But on a serious note, I would not spend a single penny or bet on any one of these vloggers turned boxers (obviously for the money and the followers) at all. The last one was not even a fight IMO, just pure running and two idiots throwing weak punches at each other without an intention to hurt the other one badly.


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: spadormie on September 20, 2019, 05:15:01 PM
What? Logan Paul's a boxer? I never thought that this guy is I mean yes he has the body of a boxer or a fighter but he's a viner right? Am I talking about the Logan Paul that is a viner?


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: rdbase on September 20, 2019, 09:37:14 PM
Watched the meetup a few days ago on youtube when they stream it live with both their entourages to see each other and talk trash for about an hour. Of who will beat who in this match.
It actually wasnt too bad kind of reminded me of what they did with the mayweather and mcgregor fight with having them tour a few different places and do the same thing just to build up hype before the fight.
After seeing them mouth off to each other I want to see them fight. To see who would bring the pain and not just talk about it. :D


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: mich on September 21, 2019, 12:56:16 AM
I have read that that this time there will not be any head gear for this match- which makes my choice even easier now for LOGAN PAUL.
LP is much bigger then is KSI which makes sense to see the chance in the odds favor LP now and LP lives in America and KSI doesnt 


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: rexxarofmoknathal on September 21, 2019, 02:07:06 PM
WTF! Are they even serious for this? I mean, I think one is enough and two is too many. They should not fight once again mainly because they're not pro, it could be dangerous for both of them whatever you'll say. Yeah! I know they have a thing which needs to be settled (since their last match was a draw) but much better if they'll do it now in legal manner. Enough for this public stunt, they should starting to talk each other — man to man — because violence to resolve a problem is not the right solution at all.
I agree but this stance is attracting a lot of people and I guess as serious as they are mad at each other they also enjoy the publicity they get. Plus if they're going to settle this with another fight one they can get money from, then why not do it over just settling it quietly  :D


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: mu_enrico on September 24, 2019, 04:27:59 PM
Well Logan gassed within like 2 rounds last time, then almost got blown out in the final round—he was literally hanging by a thread.

If neither of them had headgear on in the first fight, then Logan would have gotten blitzed.
Logan still swinging a lot of punches in the 5th round mate, but yeah, he was dusted in the final round. However, if I were one of the judges, I'd give more points to Logan:
- He had a more physical presence, landing more heavy punches than KSI
- KSI received more warnings from the referee (for illegal low-ducking)

The difference in reach should be placed in the equation as well; for example, Campbell still able to give Lomachenko a little bit problem, even though heavily outclassed.

Anyway, they are both a buffoon, so this fight shouldn't be taken too seriously.


Title: Re: [Boxing] KSI vs Logan Paul 2
Post by: Zicadis on September 24, 2019, 04:39:14 PM
Well Logan gassed within like 2 rounds last time, then almost got blown out in the final round—he was literally hanging by a thread.

If neither of them had headgear on in the first fight, then Logan would have gotten blitzed.
Logan still swinging a lot of punches in the 5th round mate, but yeah, he was dusted in the final round. However, if I were one of the judges, I'd give more points to Logan:
- He had a more physical presence, landing more heavy punches than KSI
- KSI received more warnings from the referee (for illegal low-ducking)

The difference in reach should be placed in the equation as well; for example, Campbell still able to give Lomachenko a little bit problem, even though heavily outclassed.

Anyway, they are both a buffoon, so this fight shouldn't be taken too seriously.

Well the first fight wasn't that bad. Logan Paul has experience as a fighter and knows how to train, stay dedicated etc. KSI, however, played FIFA on Youtube for years, and pretty much only started working out to prepare for the Joe Weller fight back in 2016?

In their first fight, Logan Paul simply lacked stamina. Technically he was far superior. So with only a single thing to improve (stamina) he should definitely be able to beat KSI next time. To catch up to Logan Paul, KSI would need to improve his technique, which definitely isn't as simple.

No headgear = TKO at the very least.