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Title: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: lphelps on March 16, 2014, 10:44:10 PM
this is getting ridiculous.. I thought the crypto currencies were supposed to be different than the way banking has been to the common people??

I'm losing money on this shit with a new coin coming out everyday and all the losing of interest on otherwise great coins.

Mazacoin has gone to shit, Doge has gone to shit, Aurora has gone to shit, Blackcoin has gone to shit.. and fuck Spaincoin.. another short living coin..

Not a damn one of the ones that have come out in the past month have matured any in any great value, except for Aurora which was at .160 BTC and
because some questioned it's legality and calling it a scam, investors started dumping it like it was a disease..

Can we at least settle on a few coins and just work together in getting them up to levels that benefit everyone?? The top known 5-6 altcoins should all
be worth more than a hundreds of thousands of a cent or a couple of cents..

Litecoins should be $50-$100 in value.. Aurora should be $75-$100 in value.. Blackcoin and Maza should be around $10-$20. And then of course you have
BitCoin which if it wasn't for the damn GOXing, would probably be around $1500 by now..

I'm starting to think the crypto world has been highly infiltrated by central banking assholes who are doing everything they can to devalue every coin out there...



Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: peterlustig on March 16, 2014, 10:51:29 PM
That's the beauty of the free market.


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: wallstreetcoiner on March 16, 2014, 11:38:06 PM
Can we at least settle on a few coins and just work together in getting them up to levels that benefit everyone??

I like this idea the best. I vote for Goldcoin (GLD).  :)


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: reRaise on March 16, 2014, 11:42:45 PM
This shit won't work, everyone is promoting the coin they have bought or mined.

The problem is these scammy ass developers which are making stupid coins. I bet 1 guy is making tons of shitty alts.

Also blackcoin and maza are stupid there are better coins


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: iampingu on March 16, 2014, 11:43:56 PM
GLD is a shitcoin with 2 accounts made to pump it unsuccessfully.



Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: ThePatient on March 16, 2014, 11:56:45 PM
Just start supporting Einsteinium. The more people supporting, the greater its value gets. Greater value means the Einsteinium Fund is worth more and more (in USD) meaning the more publicity for each monthly donation will grow.. More publicity means value goes up again.


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: gustav on March 17, 2014, 12:12:04 AM
i was just about to open a similar thread. Pandacoin devs ran away. Leaving a community behind to start another coin ... i haven't been involved. Just found that out today.
Where is mrc?
Pigs not flying ...
myr became pnd
pnd went belly up
continuumcoin - being added on cryptsy soon and still no value
usde - didn't move much ... why was this not a splash?
Topcoin saying at one sat forever ...
peng one sat, karm one sat ... more coins going to join the parade of .00000001 ltc per coin
Riecoin ...
even the much celebrated Reddcoin is after the cryptsy-add at lower prices than it started at.
why?
not only because of all the new coins but also because old projects are given up all to quick and easy (young dev thinks 'let's start a new thing and abandon the old - most quick and easy'). Why should investors come into something where they on the one hand have no more perspective in winning much (as is right now) and on the other have the risk they come online any day and while they were only sleeping the devs were exiting their coin and it was dumped already - person looses. Will not repeat many time.

Start making the investors money again or you can all go home!
The next big thing after bitcoin would probably be now a coin that is sustainable for more than 6 months and doesn't loose 90% of value in that period of time ...

just had a laugh about 42coin btw

it seems all new coin are going to bubble up exactly one time and die after that and are forgotten. If that is, what it is going to be like for the next period of time concider this whole operation to be an epic fail. It was the case not only for 42-coin so far but also for mec, qrk, xpm, wdc and others

i would call the thread 'can we stop acting like a trashcan'?
Create some value guys. Don't be so much of a throw-away-society. Sober up! Create value!
A focus on coins that are sustainable and will be around for longer periods of time (durability as a the new mega-feature) and thus being a good store of value (what else is this whole show basically about if you are not a scamming dev?) probably will make everybody more money right now than a focus on a quick, astronomic rise that doesn't happen anyways.


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: infofront on March 17, 2014, 12:33:22 AM
GLD is a shitcoin with 2 accounts made to pump it unsuccessfully.



I'm glad others realize that.  GLD has always been a shitcoin.


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: whyenot on March 17, 2014, 12:46:55 AM
...but Microguy said it was a sure thing  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIWO48SJNHw


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: TheCloser on March 17, 2014, 12:54:21 AM
this is getting ridiculous.. I thought the crypto currencies were supposed to be different than the way banking has been to the common people??

I'm losing money on this shit with a new coin coming out everyday and all the losing of interest on otherwise great coins.

Mazacoin has gone to shit, Doge has gone to shit, Aurora has gone to shit, Blackcoin has gone to shit.. and fuck Spaincoin.. another short living coin..

Not a damn one of the ones that have come out in the past month have matured any in any great value, except for Aurora which was at .160 BTC and
because some questioned it's legality and calling it a scam, investors started dumping it like it was a disease..

Can we at least settle on a few coins and just work together in getting them up to levels that benefit everyone?? The top known 5-6 altcoins should all
be worth more than a hundreds of thousands of a cent or a couple of cents..

Litecoins should be $50-$100 in value.. Aurora should be $75-$100 in value.. Blackcoin and Maza should be around $10-$20. And then of course you have
BitCoin which if it wasn't for the damn GOXing, would probably be around $1500 by now..

I'm starting to think the crypto world has been highly infiltrated by central banking assholes who are doing everything they can to devalue every coin out there...



First off, there is no such thing as low risk high reward. Clearly, you treated this like a casino, risked your money and now your taking a bath an complaining to stop treating crypto like a casino. Stop. No one wants to hear whining when you lose money trying to make a quick buck. Slow and steady wins the race when it comes to investments.


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: GoldSeal on March 17, 2014, 12:55:34 AM
I turned my 3 GPU rigs off yesterday. All the alt coins are in the toilet. I don't need to hear fans for $8/day in profit. zZz...

Then I went to an S&M bar in Shinjuku. At one point, I remember slapping someone around in a cage for about an hour. OMG I just took a look at the pictures from last night and I realized that I look like a serial killer. Fuck. This is devastating.



Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: alyssa85 on March 17, 2014, 01:03:04 AM
this is getting ridiculous.. I thought the crypto currencies were supposed to be different than the way banking has been to the common people??

I'm losing money on this shit with a new coin coming out everyday and all the losing of interest on otherwise great coins.

Mazacoin has gone to shit, Doge has gone to shit, Aurora has gone to shit, Blackcoin has gone to shit.. and fuck Spaincoin.. another short living coin..

Not a damn one of the ones that have come out in the past month have matured any in any great value, except for Aurora which was at .160 BTC and
because some questioned it's legality and calling it a scam, investors started dumping it like it was a disease..


Why are you bothering with coins that have come out in the last month? Most of the innovative alts launched two years ago. Litecoin with script. Devcoin with inflation plus innovative ways of earning the coins (makes me laugh when the Doge community think they invented inflation!). peercoin with it's proof of stake. Primecoin with it's scientific goal.

All these have stood the test of time, survived attacks and have established communities and economies. Most of the coins being launched now are just derivatives. If you invest in a derivative, of course the price is going to collapse once the hype dies. Why would they stay up?


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: lphelps on March 17, 2014, 01:18:34 AM
Let's see.. I tend to put my money or BTC towards alt coins that have a valid purpose behind them. I'm not interested in the `Muh Dik is bigger than yur Dik' coins..

Maza has a purpose behind it in it's helping out the Lakota Nation, a Native American Indian tribe.

Aurora is supposed to be helping out the Icelandic people in giving them an alternative to the Krona.

Litecoin I was figuring would have been the $50 low denominator to BTC for small spending..

Doge was supposed to be for tipping and gifting purposes or small purchases..

I'm finding that the altcoin market is starting to resemble the movie `The Wolf of Wall Street', which was nothing but a bunch of fucking penny stock traders defrauding their investors.

I suggest we pick 6 good altcoins and build them up so that you can draw in more investors.. This fucking jumping from coin to coin everyday is scaring away potential investors....


 


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: alyssa85 on March 17, 2014, 01:35:26 AM
Let's see.. I tend to put my money or BTC towards alt coins that have a valid purpose behind them. I'm not interested in the `Muh Dik is bigger than yur Dik' coins..

Maza has a purpose behind it in it's helping out the Lakota Nation, a Native American Indian tribe.

Aurora is supposed to be helping out the Icelandic people in giving them an alternative to the Krona.

Litecoin I was figuring would have been the $50 low denominator to BTC for small spending..

Doge was supposed to be for tipping and gifting purposes or small purchases..

I'm finding that the altcoin market is starting to resemble the movie `The Wolf of Wall Street', which was nothing but a bunch of fucking penny stock traders defrauding their investors.

I suggest we pick 6 good altcoins and build them up so that you can draw in more investors.. This fucking jumping from coin to coin everyday is scaring away potential investors....


 

But you are interested in making profits, right?

Maza - how big is the Lakota nation? Maybe a million people tops? That limits how high the coin will go, even if every single person in that nation adopts it plus everyone who trades with them.

Aurora and Iceland. Same problem. Population of Iceland is only 321,857, and even if everyone there adopted it plus those they trade with (mainly fishing these days), there is a natural limit how high it will go.

Doge. Regarding tipping, gifting and small purchases - there already exists a coin with this capacity  - Devcoin, which invented the 50,000 coin per block thing, very low fees, plus inflation. Devcoin was launched as long ago as August 2011, it is merge mined with bitcoin (especially in the ghash.io pool), and which has additional features (the support for devs and others) and an already established broad community. Why would you need a fly-by-night like Doge to provide the same function?

Look deeper before you invest and you won't lose your money.



Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: TheCloser on March 17, 2014, 01:45:28 AM
Let's see.. I tend to put my money or BTC towards alt coins that have a valid purpose behind them. I'm not interested in the `Muh Dik is bigger than yur Dik' coins..

Maza has a purpose behind it in it's helping out the Lakota Nation, a Native American Indian tribe.

Aurora is supposed to be helping out the Icelandic people in giving them an alternative to the Krona.

Litecoin I was figuring would have been the $50 low denominator to BTC for small spending..

Doge was supposed to be for tipping and gifting purposes or small purchases..

I'm finding that the altcoin market is starting to resemble the movie `The Wolf of Wall Street', which was nothing but a bunch of fucking penny stock traders defrauding their investors.

I suggest we pick 6 good altcoins and build them up so that you can draw in more investors.. This fucking jumping from coin to coin everyday is scaring away potential investors....


 

So you want to create an artificial pump so you can leave new investors holding the bag? Classic pyramid scheme. That's not why cryptocurrecy was implemented.


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: williamevanl on March 17, 2014, 01:52:52 AM
I turned my 3 GPU rigs off yesterday. All the alt coins are in the toilet. I don't need to hear fans for $8/day in profit. zZz...

Then I went to an S&M bar in Shinjuku. At one point, I remember slapping someone around in a cage for about an hour. OMG I just took a look at the pictures from last night and I realized that I look like a serial killer. Fuck. This is devastating.



Hmm one of my favorite posts. (just read it to my wife)  :) Tell us more!


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: freedomno1 on March 17, 2014, 01:54:33 AM
You likely want to do more research into the altcoin market and make educated guesses on where they will go then


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: wonderloops on March 17, 2014, 03:04:11 AM


Litecoins should be $50-$100 in value.. Aurora should be $75-$100 in value.. Blackcoin and Maza should be around $10-$20. And then of course you have
BitCoin which if it wasn't for the damn GOXing, would probably be around $1500 by now..

I'm starting to think the crypto world has been highly infiltrated by central banking assholes who are doing everything they can to devalue every coin out there...



My bet is you will continue to lose money simply because you fail to understand basic economics.



Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: Viecoin on March 17, 2014, 05:08:03 AM
I think things will get better. I had to lose btc on some alts to know how to exercise proper discernment when the diamond in the rough comes along. Last night I bought up 1 btc in some alt sitting at 1 satsoshi, only to realize that there were no buy orders for a reason on the btc market. The ltc market had the same coin at 6 latoshi lol. I live and I learn.


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: Bit_Happy on March 17, 2014, 05:33:16 AM
...
Can we at least settle on a few coins and just work together in getting them up to levels that benefit everyone??....


How do those coins get picked?
"Herding cats" isn't easy...


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: lphelps on March 17, 2014, 05:40:42 AM

So you want to create an artificial pump so you can leave new investors holding the bag? Classic pyramid scheme. That's not why cryptocurrecy was implemented.

artificial pump?? no I want more people to seriously invest and increase the volume of trading and increase the price. then I'd like responsible investors to keep the momentum going.

sure some will sell off, but as there are those selling off, there are a equal amount buying back in..

buying in and then watching everyone abandon a particular coin because someone shouted, `it's shit! dump it' is showing me that this market is nothing more than a get rich scheme for a very select few and it was never about changing the scales and trying to be better than the fucking banking elite that have destroyed peoples lives...


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: lphelps on March 17, 2014, 05:43:49 AM
...
Can we at least settle on a few coins and just work together in getting them up to levels that benefit everyone??....


How do those coins get picked?
"Herding cats" isn't easy...

If particular coins actually have a benefit, then put them at the top of the list and promote them...  If it's just a fad and is only making a select few rich, then shitcan it..


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: counter on March 17, 2014, 05:59:54 AM
I think the new coins should improve the problems earlier coins have had and become easier for the general public to understand and use.  I mostly see scam or joke coins that mock the crypto community and halt the progression of mass adoption.


Title: Re: Can we stop acting like a damn Casino???
Post by: Oldminer on March 17, 2014, 07:13:35 AM
I turned my 3 GPU rigs off yesterday. All the alt coins are in the toilet. I don't need to hear fans for $8/day in profit. zZz...


Mandatory "And so it begins"..  ;D