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Bitcoin bull run, how we Know its a bull run?

If the usdt minted usdt to buy bitcoins Everybody was confident its a bull run but it was bull trap!



So how the real full bull run Will look like?  Daily Weekly Monthly?
Everybody buying bitcoins but despite this we are not at bull run zone?

Now its a question how is the Bitcoin Price is exacly determined? 

Are we not bull run coz People buy bitcoins otc method?

There is no perfect prediction about the market move. It is all about the coincidence taking place with the predictions made by the people. A bull run can be identified when there is continued growth in the marketcap along with the dominance. Now what we experience is just a fluctuation, because the market hasn't initiated any strong downturn. The price stays close to $9500, this will get changing within limited range until there is inflow of investment which too is a beginning for bull run.

If im Right If i think that btc price not rise up much coz investors will try to buy off line through private networks?

We can only see the high hash rate it means mining has been increased?

And big  % of Bitcoin hodlers Don't sell or buy.
So That's the reason price is quite stable around 9-10k.

Sure seems like sellers are outnumbering buyers to me. ;)

The lower $8,000s were always a good candidate for the bottom of this correction. Why? Fib levels, long term moving averages, and because it was the center mode of the May-June bull flag. Here's how it might look, courtesy of dmwardjr: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140701.msg52547743#msg52547743

No one can say how it will look like unless it finally happened but mostly it won't be thru hype.

It's because many are taking the chance of buying it while it's low.

It didn't change, supply and demand.

Obviously no, bitcoin plunged to $8577.

If the price of bitcoin makes a new ATH then we are on the bull run. Whether they buy over the counter or through exchanges the price should still go up because the supply becomes limited and they bought that from a specific wallet too. The bull run is soon to begin, we have to be patient and be ready for the possible big spike on the price.

He is talking of the bull run but right now we are like in the bearish period. Situations like the bitcoin auction - https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/09/23/uk-bitcoin-auction-seized-criminal-cryptocurrency-wilsons/ (https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/09/23/uk-bitcoin-auction-seized-criminal-cryptocurrency-wilsons/), will also decrease the btc price in the coming days. But of course, I still do believe in btc, it will rise again in the coming months. Be positive!  ;)

This auction has a total value of around $575k at today's prices, so no way that it will decrease the price. Another thing is that these coins will be sold through an auction, which means that it doesn't affect the price.

In order for the price to be decreased, thousands of BTC will have to be market sold on an exchange, and then still, a whale may appear and gobble up these coins to thicken his position without losing too much due to slippage.

This is why you should of took the chance and sold at $13.8K back in June or for $10K+ plus anytime in the last 2 months. You can't predict the top and its not smart becoming bearish all of a sudden when we got a nasty -15% day.

Right now I am neutral and I am waiting for the weekly close. The amount of selling pressure was immense and its mostly due to the over-leveraged longs where we had over $700 million worth liquidated today. Going from an open interest of $1 billion before the drop, it seems that most longs were stopped out or margin called today. Hence why the drop was so steep. We will see how the rest of the week will look.

Well said! 

I agree with you! 

Other point id like to add is that:

When You Want to make People to buy Bitcoin with 10k Easy, just Tell them the Bitcoin will Go to 100k. 🤔😀😀



We need to Wait When stable coins are minted then we know the Bitcoin creators and owners will Want to Bitcoin price Go Up.


The only way to survive in this business is to swim together with whales!

the only problem is that nobody ever uses tether to buy bitcoin, the creators of that centralized shitcoin create it and inject it into the altcoin market and the altcoin bag holders buy it in stead of their shitcoins to try and escape their dump. that is why all the altcoin exchanges have it listed and that is why people have been doing so much arbitrage lately...

This is the reason why you are seeing a bear market.
Even the FUD is crawling in here.
You cannot stop it. But are you strong enough to take it or ride with its wave.
Sure there is no profit in selling but remember, this price wont stay at that without the hodlers.
Just be thankful for them and you can make large profits out of it.

Because Bitcoin supporters and investors tend to Longterm Holdings that’s why stabilize market sometimes happen but don’t forget that whales are manipulating the prices(as much as they can) so movements of value also rely on their actions

People here now are not that stupid to believe in hearsay,because crypto investors are more mature now and doing their own search

Lol who’s creator and owner?Satoshi has nothing to do with the price anymore don’t dig people from the grave ..everything about bitcoin is doing by the people around and not by Nakamoto anymore

I love how it's called the 'Bitcoin bull run' and the price just broke down.  Feels like what a typical 2014 Buttcoiner would do.  :D

Yeah, this is quite a dip--and I'm pretty much used to bitcoin's volatility.  On the other hand, I still think the overall sentiment is bullish and that we'll rebound eventually.  There was always a question in my mind whether bitcoin would break out of the $10k-ish range to the upside or downward.  I figured it would be up, but I got that one wrong.

But hey, I see it as a buying opportunity, as in "bitcoin is on SALE!!".  I must admit, that Google quantum computing thing had me spooked, although I don't pretend to understand it.  Something like that (or a worldwide governmental ban) is the only thing that could make bitcoin plunge to $0.  It's nowhere near $0 right now, though.  In fact it's much higher than it was for most of last year, so I'm not complaining.

The wait is going to take years and years for another bullrun to happen so if that is the case, those who had hold bags are going to be screwed for years. My suggestion to whoever did bag and left trading would be to just keep your coins, you don't have to do anything then but go on with your lives and come back by the next years to see how much had it grown.

For me the bull run will look like Every day the price will Go Up!

That's called bull run! 

Lots of the same event happen to Bitcoin even at its bull run on 2016-2017, so I agree with you about the market sentiment, and how many times  had we seen this kind of dip this year?  So it seems this kind of things is normal in a bullish sentiment market.


Same here, imagine how Bitcoin started this year, so all in all we are still at more than 200% price growth this moment.

Where already in but there’re some circumstances that must be done before we totally called “Bullrun” considering that from $3k value jumped up to almost $14,000 only blind cant tell that it was a bull movement.but like all the market correction and some manipulative jobs take place sometimes though in this we will test how tough the market isn’t and how strong our hands to keep this holding.remember and never forget that this year alone we have pump and dump for how many times and enough reason to prove the power of bitcoin and altcoins to hold till it happens truly 

The only thing we know that is the bull run is when the price can rise too high, and the increase is step by step moving. But that cannot be a guide since there are no people will know how it will look. But when the price can moves to the high price in a short time, then we could expect that the bull run appears and we can prepare to sell at the price we want. The bull run itself can come in daily, weekly, or monthly and there will be a significant increase in the volume. So you might have to check with the volume in weekly, so you know and predict when the bull run will come. But that is the only prediction.

The real bull run always comes after the halving  ;)

Exactly, we can't see any at this time that will really push the price and make another bull run.

The last price increased from $3k-$13k was just a mini bull run if we can call it like that.

The real parabolic rise will come after the block halving. But make no mistake about it, the price won't increase overtime but it will take years to reach another all time high before bursting.

I think thats still considered as bullish market. Maybe you call it "mini" because it didnt break nor get closer to the ATH? I understand that we need a little indication that the market are pushing close to ATH,  but thats a span of 9 months of a slowly upward direction, though it wasnt a simultaneous rise. Compared to what happened in 2018, the whole year seems to be bearish, a very dark days for the hodlers.

It will take some time for sure but I am not sure if it will be as long as next may month (which is the expected approximate time of next halving), I mean we already dropped now, it is already late September and soon to be October. I feel like during December January it will start to go back up once again, remember last time it dropped on November 15th and then went back up in April, so this must be one or two months earlier.

Surely, it doesn't have to be the same amount of time required but it does seem like happens once in a while and that is why I really think its possible for it to happen again. Even if it doesn't I still think that halving is too late and something could change until then, maybe its not really too late, maybe I am wrong but I feel like price can't stay the same for that long period of time.

Every january the market is Down !


We need bull run Now, we Got to pay bills! 
That's what is the Bitcoin is all about, to make Good profit and paying bills!
If its neccesaaryy to cut rates Even lower or devaluation of currency I Don't care as longes I see Bitcoin Going Up, so


Btc, Ethernet, ltc, bch If those coins will so Constant bull run im Happy  !



It comes to that point When Got to realise If the Bitcoin Don't pay Our bills, therefor we need Something Else to pay Our bills, im hungry need to eat as all of you who are Here Bitcoin Forum.


Lets eat together!

Most traders still expect more dump before purchase, you will be surprised the amount of order placed between $5000-7000 by traders. Most times some investors predict this price they usually get there, I dont know how. There are possibilities we might still see slight dump if the price stays at $8000 in couple of weeks .

We may have different interpretation of bull run but what I've witness during last december 2017 and January 2018 are the best moment in the crypto space and I call it a bull run. For almost 2 years now, I haven't seen that kind of scenario again but I'm still bullish for long term and very optimistic soon we will again witness that.

the red line is that bull run can be said to be a condition that makes cryptocurrency prices go up high. besides, the bull run can also be caused by people's needs regarding cryptocurrency. it happened in the 2017 switch to 2018. In addition, the bull run also took place for bitcoin this year in June, the price of bitcoin reached $ 11k.

however, to determine the price of bitcoin is quite difficult, because prices always go up and down. so, there is no exact price to determine what the actual price of bitcoin is if it is in the long run. we can only determine the price of bitcoin in a short time.

When you plan to invest but the price has risen than you expected and you could not see any correction for a few weeks and the market keeps on breaking all the resistance, then you will understand that the market is in bull run  :P.

If you are talking about USDT (Tether) then i will not trust that coin. During the last bull run we saw many new coins minted and pumped into the market, i guess there was some sort of manipulation during that period.

If you are investing millions then OTC is the go to method and it will not reflect in the exchange volumes. It is nothing to do with the bull run, if there are more buyers than sellers the price will increase.

How we know if there is bull run just look at the price in the market and if you see a rapidly increasing of the price it might the sign that it is a bull run. How bull run looks like? kindly check the chart of the market in the year 2017 where it is the year where I experience the bull run and once you see it, you might see the different cryptocurrencies that reached their different all-time high price. About the price of bitcoin, it's hard to determine that's why many people do their own predictions on its price.

You will know when the bull market started when everything in the market is increasing its price.
Top 100 coin might also follow bitcoin trend many good news will publish in the news artcile . Then thats good to go.

Everyone of us is expecting a bull run for bitcoin but what we are getting are ox runs that feel sluggish and slowish. I wish something change fast so I can relax.
Consider this year's btc rally. So unstable. It went from 3000 to 14000 and now back teetering at 8000

What was btc price Same day?
Year 2015,2016,2017,2018?

That's the Way we can find some price patterns!


The Year 2017 was bull year if the Same day btc price been Higher then Today we might have some problem.
If the price was Lower then its not bad now.

Before we can also conclude on this value that we predict bitcoin will dump to, we also need to look at the amount of sell order that is being placed on a particular figure and I can see people selling their coin right now. Before the value if bitcoin plunged, there was already a rumor of some sort of big whale moving about 1 billion dollars to another exchange, it was at that point I knew that someone wants to do a cash pout, and shortly after them was when bitcoin plunge which made it look like it was an effect from the launch of bakkt.

If bitcoin would lunge further, there would surely be a sign of it already, don’t mind those whales that has placed buy order down around $5k, no matter the panic that they cause they will never get their wish done.

Bitcoin bull run could happen at any time, it is not something that cares about charts, it is not something that cares about sentiment, it is not something that cares about the trends.

If there is a whale who buys thousands right away then it goes up and nothing can stop it from going up. Same happens for the bear run as well, when someone sells thousands of bitcoin the price drops and then panic sales happen and it drops even more than stop losses are broken so it goes down even more and then long futures are cashed out so it goes even further down. It is like a chain reaction type of thing. It is great when bull run happens where whale buys then FOMO happens and everyone buys then short futures are cashed out so it goes even higher and so forth, it all depends on one ripple affect.

Can you prove this quoted message of yours?

I dont really know if everybody is buying but I really doubt that all are doing the same thing that we does. This forum is already the proof of that.
Some just trade it for another coin or other just want to earn some of it.
Not everybody is buying.

One more thing that could make it to the bull run zone. It is the news, usage and demands, oh and also add the FUD which was made to reverse everything.

This is a silly question at all, if people knew the market would go up soon why the demand for bitcoin slowing down? Yes price is unstable and this is due to a lot of factors. Bull run isn't simply a schedule event where it will happened in the midst of something.


There should be a huge demand or market cash flowing in the market in order to have a bull season. Last time, bull run happened when lots of people are hype with btc and this is proven due to massive increase in a very slow period of time. Wait for the halving of bitcoin, and see where it can leap up again.

i remember the bull run of last year where price rose much everyone should avoid despair because of this 10 or 20 percent even 30 percent
i hope another small bull run help price to level 8600-----9000 for continuation of hope for all investor bitcoin
bull run can restart again at any moment . bull run is like train ;its lesson of the past

Now we dont think it's called bullrun anymore and i feel price correction will be the right term to use as we have not seen any sudden pump or dump in last couple of months as it's been gradual so far wherein the price drops slowly and increase slowly as well unlike past where you see the difference of 20 or 30% everyday. Bitcoin will not be struck at same price forever that's true but neither it will pump or dump radiply. BTW I am a wellwisher for Bitcoin.

lol theres no such thing as "Full Bullrun" where did you get that word,bull will run accordingly and theres no slow and fast run .
who is that everybody?it seems that you are mentioning all cryptonians to be a bitcoiner?nope because there are still in despair of altcoins even how fall the alts are so never generalized

There were lots of predictions roaming around since 2018 but no one really knows when the bull run would approach us. Even technical analysis and signals have predicted that the bull run is approaching yet none of it happened. Last 2017, the bull run was really surprising. The price has reached its best value unexpectedly. I'm sure that the same thing would happen again. Bitcoin's price is always surprising and unpredictable so we must be ready for any unexpected changes that might happen.

That's not true. Technical analysis is quite neutral if applied without a bias to favor your own position. In 2018 the charts clearly pointed out how bearish the market actually was, but noobs as usual disregarded that.

The first sign of a bull market happened this year where the price broke through various resistance levels, including $6k, which was indicating that the trend has reversed from bearish to bullish. The price action afterwards confirmed that.

People always expect a bull run to happen, regardless of how much we have seen the price go up or down before. It was like a week or two after the 2017 peak where people started to speculate about $50k before the end of the year.

TA will only show possible paths not certainty, it just improves chances a bit and is helpful in guaging market moves beyond purely emotional responses.   Here is 1 chart possibility:

https://i.imgur.com/UQQed7m.png

We have the 200 day average on the yellow line which is a fair estimate for near term recovery.   If we can get past the 200 day then its quite bullish but for the moment I dont think we exceed the 9500 area before speculators take profits again and we must spend time revising price.   These moves come in waves and the regular show of highs and lows gives some idea of the mood up or down I think.
   Just by the recent history, we can see the 200DMA capped aspirations higher, its not unreasonable to observe that history in what we can expect next.

I don't think this is a real market bull run because recently we noticed many short-term pumps and dumps in the market. only the time will tell whether this is an artificial pump by the whales or the real market bull run. 

you can determine if it's a bullrun once the pumps is consecutive despite of the small fluctuation what i mean it gradually increasing . As the matter of fact you can easily determine it also using the chart.  So dont forget to monitor the chart how bull run look like wherein to don't miss the opportunity to buy early. Dont rely on others speculation because it's not worth it    remember that! make your own research instead to avoid regrets..

people who are doing that are not using technical analysis. they are drawing random lines to create an illusion of them using TA so that their wishes look more like reality and in most cases they hope to get others to follow their wished direction.
for example nowadays even though there is no indication of a downtrend apart from the one time drop that we had more than 2 weeks ago, a lot of these so called TA posters are drawing lines aiming for lower prices such as $3k!

You might want to google the definition of 'bull market' and I'm certain you'll get a good answer.  The textbook definition as far as I remember is when an investment, usually a stock, increases in value by 20% over the course of a year.  A decrease by 20% is a bear market.  I have heard a lot of debate on the term, and I dont think everyone is in agreement on it.  It's kind of a gray zone thing.

That's a different question entirely.  The thing that determines the price of bitcoin is the buying and selling of it on exchanges.  When buying increases, generally so does the price because then the buying gets deeper and deeper into the selling order queue.  That also holds true for the stock market and pretty much everything else.

We can't completely tell but we can feel on ourselves if what we see is already a bull run or not, I mean we have our own judgement and we know when it has already come or not based on our experience in the past. Most probably our basis is only the trend, and if we don't see it, we might not be able to believe but this market is really unpredictable but we should not mind the significant up and down and just hold until FOMO will happen again.

FOMO, IMO is one of the big reason of the bull run, and that time price could be overvalued so its our chance to sell our holdings especially for altcoins that is very cheap and undervalued at the moment.

I'm trying to decide if it will break the 200 DMA but so far its acting very closely just below that line.   This actually makes me think we will cross over and market is just accumulating orders and strength in order to do so.
  The best solution might be to look at 2 day and 8 day averages and some of the volume for an indication of the time if not the success of an attempt to cross this well watched 200 day average.

https://i.imgur.com/z3IKItz.png

I think there is nothing bad if people are making their own lines about the price graph. Different people carried different thinking so they work according to that price movement. For now, only positive thinking will make price what we have dream to see and what a coin like bitcoin has the ability to do. Fall and rise only are temporarily but finally, we will have what we do for making the market high.

No one can predict when the bull run come as we all know many are expecting to that bull run. And also we did not determined the price of bitcoin because is every hour every minute price of bitcoin getting high and low. So no one can determined the price sir.

As for this, we do have our own versions of interpreting the market movement. Those early birds from this market who able to bought bitcoin lower than $1K still considering that the current situations define as bull, while for those who bought from the peak of $20k surely wouldn't agree. Same with your
opinion, it's the holders personal appreciation of  market movements. Together with FOMO, it leads the way to spark the bull to try reaching ATH.

You can use past movements for your reference in defining the market conditions.

i disagree. FOMO has never been the "reason" for any bull run. FOMO is only a temporary panic mode among a short percentage of the investors that are making irrational hasty decisions that causes a short term spike in price. it is the same as panic sellers that cause a short term drop. they are not the reason for bear market same as FOMO buyers aren't the reason for bull market. they are the reason for higher volatility.
the reason for a bull market is always fresh money coming in and increase of adoption.