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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: neha11 on September 25, 2019, 01:19:48 PM



Title: Bitcointalk Account seller in local
Post by: neha11 on September 25, 2019, 01:19:48 PM
mr.robot8  account  seller.He is post on Telegram Public group  for sell BTT account  
Bitcointalk profile link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1016563

https://i.imgur.com/GJlDPzN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CfZ3zzW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Al1hFlf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/79ZmuBw.jpg



Title: Re: Bitcointalk Account seller in local
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 25, 2019, 06:29:18 PM
Tagged.  Account selling is, in fact, allowed here but is very shady and is highly frowned upon.  

Thanks for bringing this to the community's notice, OP.  I'm not sure how many accounts are being sold these days (I have Invites & Accounts on ignore), but nobody should be dealing in them in 2019.  It's been an ongoing battle with these people since 2016.

That account he/she is trying to sell should immediately be banned.
That isn't going to happen.  As I said, it's not against the rules to buy or sell accounts--but there's no good reason for accounts to be changing hands.  It only leads to more shitposting and scamming.

Edit:

@The Pharmacist there is not enough evidence for negative.
Hmm.  Ok, I trust your judgement on the image.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk Account seller in local
Post by: bob123 on September 25, 2019, 06:34:50 PM
That account he/she is trying to sell should immediately be banned. As far as I know, selling an account is not allowed on this forum. I believe the necessary action will be applied.

As far as i dislike trading accounts, this is not prohibited.
It is not against the forum rules, therefore no actions should be taken.

Generally, i would tag this account.
But unfortunately you can't be sure that this account is really up for sale. You just communicated with someone claiming that he is selling this account.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk Account seller in local
Post by: LTU_btc on September 25, 2019, 07:29:22 PM
First, this topic belongs to Reputation, please move it.
@1kodumtek7, can you show me rule which don't allow account sales? Because account sales market isn't moderated and left to community - you only can get negative trust feedback for it.
@bob123, I agree with your point. It might be scammer who just posted link to random forum account. For example, I also can say on chat that I'm selling account x and just post link to profile - will it be enough to tag account x?


Title: Re: Bitcointalk Account seller in local
Post by: Veleor on September 25, 2019, 07:57:25 PM

This image looks fake.

When a real forum user enters the personal profile, then an email address must be shown to him / her, and not to be as a "hidden".


Title: Re: Bitcointalk Account seller in local
Post by: bob123 on September 25, 2019, 09:44:20 PM
This image looks fake.

When a real forum user enters the personal profile, then an email address must be shown to him / her, and not to be as a "hidden".

Nice catch.

This image definitely is faked. There is no other reason why the email address should be hidden.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk Account seller in local
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 25, 2019, 09:49:04 PM
This image looks fake.
When a real forum user enters the personal profile, then an email address must be shown to him / her, and not to be as a "hidden".

It's totally fake not even "it looks fake". I was just about pointing that out, that's why I don't recommend immediate tagging of account seller (caught outside the forum) unless there's a reasonable and convincing reason to tagged them either due to sign of possible hacked account or evidence of them trying to buy or sell the accounts on the forum.

From the OP evidence, there wasn't any clear indication the user trying to sell the account is in control of the account in question, probably he/she was just trying to scam the OP. Incase of future encounter, try requesting for a PM from the account (on sale) to yours to prove control over the account or request for something else that will prove without any reasonable doubt the user is in control of the account like an update of website or profile text, or just a log into the account etc before your report them for account farming.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk Account seller in local
Post by: marlboroza on September 25, 2019, 10:40:50 PM
This image definitely is faked. There is no other reason why the email address should be hidden.
There could be one good reason to hide email - to hide email :) Any idea why seller doesn't want to show "total time logged in"?

@The Pharmacist there is not enough evidence for negative.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk Account seller in local
Post by: bob123 on September 25, 2019, 11:14:43 PM
This image definitely is faked. There is no other reason why the email address should be hidden.
There could be one good reason to hide email - to hide email :)

No no.. i think you misunderstood me.

If you have your own email set as hidden, you still see it when visiting your own profile.
In the screenshot, the 'owner' is on his own profile. But the email is not shown. That's a clear sign for a fake.

I wasn't talking about hiding the email itself, just that it is not possible to see "hidden" when watching your own profile.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk Account seller in local
Post by: hosseinimr93 on September 25, 2019, 11:37:34 PM
This image looks fake.

When a real forum user enters the personal profile, then an email address must be shown to him / her, and not to be as a "hidden".

When a user logs in using his own account, the avatar should be also shown on top left of the page. He has only changed the username in front of "Hello" and ignored email and avatar.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk Account seller in local
Post by: khaled0111 on September 26, 2019, 12:05:07 AM
The image is 100℅ fake as proved above.
Obviously BBBTC5 intention was either to harm mr.robot8 reputation or to scam someone by pretending he is the owner of that account.

I found the profile linked to BBBTC5 (telegram link: https://t.me/bbtc5b)
It is: bluebtc5 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2615395) it is him who should be tagged but according to bpip he has been nuked.

Proof:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2k-ZY0kw3IgJ:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D5181229.0


Title: Re: Bitcointalk Account seller in local
Post by: marlboroza on September 26, 2019, 05:31:18 PM
This image definitely is faked. There is no other reason why the email address should be hidden.
There could be one good reason to hide email - to hide email :)

No no.. i think you misunderstood me.

If you have your own email set as hidden, you still see it when visiting your own profile.
In the screenshot, the 'owner' is on his own profile. But the email is not shown. That's a clear sign for a fake.

I wasn't talking about hiding the email itself, just that it is not possible to see "hidden" when watching your own profile.
I didn't misunderstood you, actually, I was thinking about something else. While I believe it is fake I only tried to say that you can "hide" email/avatar/whatever if you want to:

https://i.imgur.com/1yHAwOn.png

This doesn't make my profile picture "fake", it is still my profile picture, just little modified for public. (note: image in topic doesn't have "profile info" on the left side).

So, if someone do this:

https://i.imgur.com/mov1uvR.png

...you will have hard time to prove it is not you who is selling account (of course, account seller not able to sign message should be good proof)

There is another option. So, I am selling account bob123 and I took screenshot while logged in my account:

https://i.imgur.com/JlFCZXw.png

So I modified my nick to bob123 and I forget to modify avatar. Hah! (just saying, picture is usually not a good reason to tag account)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk Account seller in local
Post by: bob123 on September 26, 2019, 05:40:22 PM
This doesn't make my profile picture "fake", it is still my profile picture, just little modified for public.

But it is definitely faked, because there can never be hidden shown where your mail should be at.
If someone is censoring the time logged in with a big bar, why then so much effort to fake the email address show "hidden" instead of simply censoring the actual mail address ?

I believe the person on telegram simply took a screenshot of the profile and changed the name at the top "Hello X".



So, if someone do this:
~snip~
...you will have hard time to prove it is not you who is selling account (of course, account seller not able to sign message should be good proof)

Nice job  :D

The very detective-like scammer would then simply check my pgp key, and take that email address for my profile  ;)

But exactly this dilemma was the reason i requested proof of ownership before tagging accounts which were up to sale (u surely remember that drama i started)  ;D
Screenshots can be faked. Especially if you have to do with account seller, who already scam other people anyways.