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If the only loser in 2019 out of 2600 suspects is Ripple, how is the community cleaning up this f--ing mess that we find ourselves wallowing in?

There are too many clueless morons in the space and ripple has a big army of paid shills.

It isn't that hard to keep a piece of shit project alive as long as your pockets are deep enough and you know the right people to bribe.

Is this not indicative of the rot from the top down?

How is this also not indicative of the failure of our community? This is an indictment of me as well. We can and should conceive, design, architect and engineer a true solution, before those who orchestrated this mess in the first place re-monopolize it all again.

What you say is absolute and I salute you.

‘and eventually, they ran out of other peoples…’

Just as the bi-buoys are diving in, lobbyists and lawyers first,
these will need to be… Damn it, is this not at least a reason
we’ve gathered here as a community to redress, or maybe not?

I think it will take a very long time before that "eventually" take place.  Remember they have the funds and they have a huge supply of XRP token  to dump to the community.  They have the money to pay lots of shills and advertising persons.  Unless the XRP community's eyes opened and see that they are just being used by this Ripple company to fund their project which has no intent to support the XRP, Ripple will strive.

Because they still have big money to run their business and of course many investors are still supporting that fallen coin. Well, it wont last longer because a more deserving coin will replace their position until it become a total shitcoin. They will not die easily mate, they will continue to manipulate their coin to survive.

One reason why ripple not dead because people still patronizing their project and ripple is one of the biggest altcoin project in the market if you see from the history chart of ripple you will notice it's extremely price up from the start its introduced in the market in other word this project will not dead easily even if the price are too low because of it supply.

Ohh! Ripple was pump to 0.67 cents, now only wish to watch ( only half ). Two days ago cryptocurrency dumped again but Ripple already 5 percent positive. Ripple is my first favorite, I will suggest to buy Ripple. Ripple has new announcement in next few months.

and I also ask, how can you ask why the ripple died?
ripple has a strong investor and cooperation, even though many banks support the ripple project, so it is very unlikely (99%) for now ripple suddenly dies,

I didn't ask why the Ripple died, my question was, "Why is the Ripple not dead?"

It's at the bottom of a rotten barrel. Who doesn't get that?

It's never a sudden death, until you run out of other peoples money.

It's slow at first, then all of a sudden.

Know ye not this?

Ripple is a very risky investment if you choose to invest now because the current market cannot be identified and the downtrend is overwhelmingly completely in this market. I think you should wait and be more patient as this year is not the best year to make a profit but if you choose to invest early, this coin is well worth the long-term investment. I have been tracking this coin every day and this will be the cheapest price you will ever know

History

Ripple was first idealized in 2004 by Ryan Fugger, who developed
the first prototype of Ripple as a decentralized digital monetary system
(RipplePay). The system went live in 2005 and was meant to provide secure
payment solutions within a global network. Really dude, you've never heard of Paypal?
Rebranded? Really? WOW. I'm Excited all over again.

In 2012, Fugger handed over the project to Jed McCaleb and Chris Larsen
and together they founded the US-based technology company OpenCoin.
From that point on, Ripple started to be built as a protocol focused on
payment solutions for banks and other financial institutions. In 2013,
OpenCoin was rebranded to Ripple Labs, which was later rebranded to
Ripple, in 2015.

Formerly known as OpenCoin, Ripple is a privately held company that is
building a payment and exchange network (RippleNet) on top of a distributed
ledger database (XRP Ledger). The main goal of Ripple is to connect banks,
payment providers and digital asset exchanges, enabling faster and cost-efficient
global payments.

This is a Zucker, who do you think will win, this Zucker or the other Zucker?

Ripple is a potential coin even though today is going down but it won't be so chaotic I'm sure this is all just while many investors are still holding fast to ripple in the future.

I did not actively participate in this matter. I mean - I'm a lot on Ethereum, but I don't mean to try and "time" every trade here. I think this might be the beginning of what a bubble looks like - but maybe there are some other pumps coming. Partial diversification to ETH. XRP is just a fairy tale about China. (China is a mystical country full of cardholders who are willing to fail because of cryptocurrency). XRP is a centralized crypto dog excrement. Ethereum will make real crypto.

the reason is that there are company using the projects
as long as there are people patronizing ripple
you can't close q company, even with a few user
the good thing about them is that they make criticism
motivation, every now and then you can see attacks against ripple
publicly, even investors and traders do, but to see this projects still moving is amazing if that is a weak company they have close already

Because there are still tons of peoples with really deep pockets and a high count of XRP coins who are constantly promoting/selling XRP. IMO ripple won't die off that easy.

Obviously XRP will be hard to die, because in coin market XRP is in third place as the best altcoin, and as long as there are people who want to buy or like XRP, then it is hard to die, plus the XRP team that continues to make further developments on their platform which has long been standing in crypto.

Almost all altcoins are essentially centralized assets. This coin is also an asset of one of the payment projects. At the same time, the coin is well supported. First of all, many altcoins will die before this coin dies. Therefore, the question "Why is Ripple not dead?" even looks strange.
I would like to ask this question: why are these 2000 altcoins not dead yet? ;D

Why ripple is still existing even though it is clear that it belongs to some altcoins with less potential;

• There are still investors who are buying it.
• It is one of the coins that can be use in most of the gambling sites
• Some still think that ripple has a good platform.

Yups and with bankers on Ripple’s back?of course money is flooding the pockets of those paid shills to boost this shitcoin to the top

Never in my mind that I thought of investing with this one and I would rather choose scam tokens than this one 😂

But at least Ripple go down to those shitcoins below rank 100 so the crypto market will cleaned from the mess

The bankers you are talking about is exactly what I am talking about. Just like how they bribed CMC to take the top spot for years, they are also bribing bankers. Banksters don't give a fuck about ripple. They'll shill anything as long as Ripple corp. sends the money and as long as there are people who shill for ripple, there will be suckers who get in to that shit...

till there isn't any left.

Ripple is a ponzi scheme.

Many people think XRP will replace the banking system although in my opinion it is very difficult to happen. XRP has a large community and is also traded by almost all exchangers, this makes the price of XRP can still survive in the range of $ 0.3

Ripple aims to be used by the banks and people who want to send money fast, but still use a familiar way to do it. Think about it — it is easier to go to the bank, make your payment, and the bank sends it in crypto. The alternative is that you need to learn about crypto, you need to buy it, make a transaction to the other person, who also needs to have a wallet and a way to cash out, and so on. Crypto is still not ready for everyone, and most people don't even want it — they are comfortable with the money they are familiar with. Ripple is not meant to be like other coins, or to be used as one.

People are still actively investing in Ripple, which I cannot understand. There are so many crypto supporters that are fighting for privacy and lack of regulations, but have a lot of Ripple in their portfolios. It makes me laugh :)

Ripple has a firm grip on the market which will definitely not allow it to get disappear or dead.

Your too negative towards ripple mate! just chill the market has plenty of space to accomodate old and new projects let the people and investors decides if what coin/token they pick to invest ,hold or to trade, i dont see any sign that ripple to be called a fallen coin. that was contradiction in the market data itself in CoinMarketCap, Ripple was still in number 3 position after bitcoin and ethereum and one of the most stable price coin in the market not like others so why everyone so hostile towards ripple the reason XRP was still thriving because it has the support from its users and investors and we cant deny that fact! thats my opinion.  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA this thread is comedy gold


Why no xrp is ded ? You guys are seriously mentally challenged

Not only has Ripple been depreciating, so have other alts, those who decided to hold altcoins during the bitcoin season have paid the price.
Besides, the market is showing signs of declining and now all alts bring pain to speculators. We cannot criticize Ripple while its value has recently increased by 5% (the highest in the top 10 of CMC).

My opinion is that Ripple is known to be a strong cryptocurrency, is of great interest and expectations and its future is still bright, it is impossible to die, once no one is interested in it, it is possible. that could happen. Find out more about Ripple so the concept you come up with will be easier to understand.

From the very beginning, I am not a supporter of hyped coin Ripple. To be exact, almost all coins are hyped in the market. So is ripple. Ripple is surviving only on deep pockets and hype. But I think that would not take place all the time. One day reality will come to light and ripple will go down. The only way to exist in the market is delivery.

XRP has been a dead shitcoin for many years now, the token died probably the day it was created not now. the difference is that sometimes people define being dead as not getting pumped any longer and with that definition XRP is not dead because it could be pumped from time to time. although right now it is getting dumped more than other shitcoins around it because it was recently pumped a little which is causing the big dumps now.

I think XRP can not die because XRP still manipulates many market movements and still has cooperation contracts with several large companies so that makes ripple has a power that is difficult to turn off, even though judging from the current situation the ripple should have died because its development is no longer healthy again.

why will it be dead? a project that has strong background and many support you expect it to die just like that when less relevant project are still breathing, haven't you read about ripple and connection it has? besides, many investors still have faith in it so i don't see anything that will kill it yet.

all will return to market demand. when there are still people who trade and save for these assets certainly will not die. even though there is bad news it is not a reason to kill a project. assets will die when no one has traded them, and most will immediately be delisted from the exchange.

Ripple's XRP is clear not the only loser in 2019. There are hundreds of crypto projects that are net negative since the start of the year.

Sure, XRP is one of the most well-known losers this year, and probably the only crypto in the top 10 to be negative YTD, but it's still a top 10 crypto.

Something can only be considered dead when it has close to no trade volume, no development, no partnerships etc. Ripple have been developing all of these for the past year, getting new xRapid and xvia partners etc.

However, they have also been dumping huge amounts of XRP in the process, which has driven the price right down. They claim their actions are all for the sake of progress, and it will all pay off eventually. Only time will tell.

Ripple is centralized and they have make enough money and trust of investors in the past till the present time, it will be hard for this coin to strive because ripple has all the power to keep the project alive.. Its still one of the top coins on CMC and i bet it will be one of tge projects that will favour if regulation occurs.

Why did this shit appear on the market? This is what interests me. Ripple is alive only because he has so many powerful friends who can support his life. I hope this shit disappears soon. In any case, I believe in it.

Ripple will not recover on this stage of the market, i wonder how much they will pull out again just to get a simple pump soon.
Those supplies and unknown transfer from some big wallet is really concerning.
This XRP is full of shill and hype, but to put them together they are all FUD.

"Why is Ripple not dead?"
It is because so many uninformed people don't know that Ripple and XRP are different. Yes, it's that bad.

I think I answered this question last year.

Well Ripple is too hard to be "dead" in the current state
Ripple have quite some collaboration/partnership with banks (Tons and tons of small bank are actually testing the Ripple network for remittance)
Despite the price has been going lower and lower, i think ripple is not that easy to get wipe off from market

   Most of the coins are down, Ripple is one of them. I invested some amount in Ripple year ago, and since then price is dropping. Will the price recover, I can`t say,
I lost my faith in that project after I saw so many negative things about them. I still hold my coins, I didn`t sell them, I wait for some miracle. Maybe it will happen
maybe not, I know I`m risking, but what else to do?

Why, as a community, would we not seek to collaborate to create a 3rd Gen Ecology
that will Facilitate Ultra-Secure Transactions, Trustless Execution of Dynamic Smart Contracts,
Decentralized Peer to Peer Exchange, P2P Application Development Platform...Creating a
Highly Productive, Dynamic, Durable and Completely Self-Regulated GDP Driven Community.

A True 'Capital Currency' Should Never Experience Significant Volatility, a True 'Capital Currency'
Should Always Produce Dividends, at least preservation of purchasing power aka, a reliable store of value.
The System Alluded to here, Will Effectively Govern for Stability, Resiliency and Appreciation. Creating a True
Capital Currency of the ‘Gold with a yield Class’. A GDP-Driven Monetary Eco-System, Driving Transparent Value/ Price
Discovery and Appreciable Demand. Hallmarks of an Authenticated, Trustless and Secure Method of Exchange.

It is not the place on CMC that runs ripple, it is the funds collected on every XRP community everytime they sold their (Ripple Company) XRP holdings.  Imagine, they have new funds coming in every month as they sell their XRP holdings for the Ripple company's project development.  Isn't that a continuous source of fund supply?  And guess what, it will not deplete anytime soon but rather will take many years.  As the price of XRP increase so does their fund resupply value each time they sold their allocated XRP for the development.

maybe not Now! but i give guarantee xrp will die sooner than any other top 10 coin

Long time, no read, what's up with the hiatus?


Look forward to reading more from...

Ripple is an altcoin that has been around for a long time. There is a large amount of exchange in the market, Trends and good development orientation! An option to invest!

Ripple will not die so easily, too many investors and traders invest and make money on ripple, also this year I saw a lot of news about Ripple partnerships with very big companies, so this suggests that Ripple is not going to leave anywhere and Ripple team seem to be trying to do something very actively, I don’t know whether it will help them or not, but still a lot of people believe in the good growth of Ripple, which I think is possible.

Unless it Finds High-Value Utility in the Socio-Political Space, Domestic and International
Commerce, is a Secure Store of Value for Future Trade, Trustless and Transparent. Unless the
MOE is ‘Community Adjudicated’ as Advantageous to Hold and Save, ‘It Can Not Rule, It Will Not Endure’.

Ripple has good liquidity, this coin is controlled by very influential people. I think that Ripple will still live for many years, at least 5 years.

Wow, 5 is certainly many years, and controlled by very influential people.
How could it possibly go wrong?

Relax guys and gals, and those in between the extremes, the "Why is Ripple not dead?"
was rhetorical.

Ripple is a re-hashed, re-packaged  copy of the past. If you don't know that by now, you are
part of the problem, not a member of the community that builds the futures protocol.

It can even live longer than ETH. I don't like XRP but this is the best altcoin in this market and it is controlled by banks

Actually it is not controlled by banks but the network is used by many banks. Banks may not control XRP or cryptocurrency because regulations do not allow for that. But I agree that XRP will probably have a long life because it has good liquidity and also almost all exchangers trade it.

I think Ripple will not die, as it has gained great trust in the banking sector of instant transfers. Ripple is a more economical and efficient way to conduct financial transactions, as long as banks exist Ripple does not die! :)

As far as I know XRP has a lot of big supporter which are the big whaler(investors) in my opinion these investors also
are responsible to pump and dump the price of ripple. In short, they are the manipulators for what is happening in the motion
price value of the XRP.

How can you speculate like this? Ripple has a strong community and also a big investor.
I think it's very difficult if Ripple really dies. Even in the past few weeks XRP is the one of tokens that got the biggest increase.
We cannot underestimate large projects like this. Their team background is also very clear and they have a pretty good dedication.

Ripple has recently partnered with Axis bank of Aisa. There are implementing the lightening fast payment system based on block chain. The bank have partnered with Ripple to implement their agenda.

From beginning only i have opposed the XRP, they are highly centralized and have gone way way too much than their potential all these happened due to centralized system. I still consider XRP as a overvalued asset.

More importantly thousand of investors all over the world have invested in XRP coin and most of them don't even know about the underlying technology behind the coin. They are persuaded by either their friends, family or other investors to buy XRP. So such investors are unaffected by anything going on with Ripple Labs. They only care about the coin, that's it!

Because they still have many supporters and the project has still have enough money to run the company and for sure they will bounce back stronger, I believe when it comes making transactions ripple is the 3rd choice most of the people.

Beside the mentioned facts, the new crypto ecosystem provided a good opportunity for the traditional companies which paid more for the same outcome. The best example is the banking and payment transfer companies which they now pay less for moving the money from one person to another. Peer to peer electronic cash transfers will replace the whole system one day but the concrete date is under the questions.

Indeed, ripple is unlikely to die when we look at the community of this project, it was so popular and became ever wider when it helped a lot of people make a lot of money from years ago with a simple job, invest and hold it, someday the pump will work, and the range will be huge. In addition to the support of the community, the company and the developer of the project always have a positive work, which contributes to creating a lot of confidence for investors, the demand for ripple still never decreases, I really don't know how ripple will die

Very nice topic, why ripple is not dead.
people are wondering that this centralized project should be dead by now, but have you seen nxt?? NXT is still booming and putting up their youtube ads all around.

The fear of losing the value since it's centralized and banks have the capabilities to pumped or dumped the token value, it's hard to predict what future can offer by this project it's a matter of investors risk taken, the numbers of supporters who still believing for the future of this project will determine the existence of this coin, if there's no support to embrace the coin sooner it will die naturally.

Ripple is still solid because of its partnerships. The team of Ripple did a partnership with strong Associations, Banks, Money investment companies and money transfer services such as MoneyGram and WesternUnion. These are the biggest ever companies in the world, i do remember western union doing big transfers using the Ripple infrastructure and that had its own effect on the company and the cryptocurrency itself. In short, Ripple has the strongest partners ever! That's why it is still alive, money brings happiness, money brings job, money brings success!

Things like that won't happen to ripple. Knowing the secret team behind ripple will speak louder than whatsoever we post here. Ripple will contend with Libra coin because the big giants believed in ripple for privacy than; getting into Libra coin without privacy protection. Centralized tokens will take turn to be patronized in the nearest future because, they will be the favorite for the government to control. Ripple will not die just like others did in the past, those behind ripple are more like the government, then, why will it die?

I also think that ripple is quite strong and liquid. The team that promotes ripple will not give up and will still show a high price for the coin.

OMG
Ripple is the company, XRP is the spreadsheet balance (or token) whatever you want to call it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomassilkjaer/2019/03/07/14-common-misunderstandings-about-ripple-and-xrp/

Whenever you hear Ripple partnership with XYZ:
- It might only be consulting work, not related to XRP.
- They might develop new "solutions," maybe they won't use XRP for this project.
- Fake news.

https://www.ripple.com/insights/difference-ripple-xrp/
Guess what, Ripple owns 60 billion XRP.
The true definition of premine.

Ripple is a company that created XRP token, XRapid solution and a company that has around 100 partnerships with banks and other big financial institutions. It is better to buy Ripple shares than XRP token because XRP token doesn't have a value, since is not used..  :)

I really hope that as many people as possible begin to understand this and this useless token XRP will disappear from the market and all investments will go either to bitcoin or to more interesting and useful altcoins

It is impossible to destroy Ripple, because it is a heavily manipulated and centralized cryptocurrency. Somewhere between 80% and 90% of all the circulating tokens are being held by the promoters (most of them indirectly) and they keep the trading volume high with the help from bots and manipulators. Unfortunately, the price rise during 2016/17 has attracted some ordinary investors, who continues to pump this shitcoin.

This coin has been manipulated. Developers use their funds to maintain prices, which is why it is difficult for these coins to die. not a secret anymore, how cunning XRP developers in playing the price of their coins. since I lost a few months ago, I've given up holding XRP. it's too hard to believe that this coin has a future.

Despite the tons of people actually despising XRP, I find it interesting to see big wallet companies are adding this coin. When you are advised to invest to top coins, new users in crypto sees XRP to be the cheapest and they will buy hoping it will also go up like how BTC did. I use to think XRP is a good investment until the bear market arrives, I still got my XRP though. And its on gatehub where I have to fucking submit documents before I can dump it all.

For the fact that Xrp doesn't get used by banks, what exactly is the use case. I made money from trading it but it should be exposed to others there's no use case for Xrp tokens it should be avoided.

Because Ripple has a lot of supporters and also a lot of shills who are promote ripple all over the internet so the most percentage of ripple buyers are coming from Q4 of 2017 when the market was in full bull run because the remaining percentage already cashed out their ripple when the announcement of banks getting involved arrived. Even in my city the local Bitcoin Exchange encourage people to buy ripple for long term and also stellar which in my opinion were never a good investment and the reason of why they are doing this is to get rid of their massive bags.

In the long run ripple will fall under top 5 and their only chance of not doing this is xrapid and the massive buying of MoneyGram shares of over 30mil$ this will implement the feature of buy/withdraw Ripple from moneygram which is a nice feature.

many people judge that by being good friends with Ripple will always be betrayed, that's what I say, the experience is not pleasant, if there is thinning, and I many times give to others, just for free, I have learned from investing in altcoin Ripple, margin buy movements, is greatly reduced, for some reason, and therefore I turned away from Ripple.

Ripple although has a lot of controversies, but it has not got to the level of seeing it dead. I believe that coins that have attained such height or positions do not have the tendency to die, except the team itself decides to give up, which most times, does not happen.

I believe that ripple is a bit of a strange project that cannot be considered a full-fledged cryptocurrency. Do not forget about whom and why it was created.

yes, the dev keep the price in good position
and just like other centralized currency, there is always a way to keep the value in good positions
because the dev team will control it and people already knew if ripple is a centraized cryptocurrency

I think the only reason Ripple is alive is because States need it and they support it.

One of the reasons they don't die, that they have the right people and they have a large amount of money to run their businesses. And they also have a lot of investors investing in their companies Surname. They are now entirely shitcoin. If they die, it will be impossible. They will be able to manipulate many things

Ripple is not dead because it has built a strong and supportive community. Traders prefer Ripple especially for the day traders. The United Nations (UN) also announced its interest in IOTA and Ripple early this year, and later announced its intentions of integrating these two coins into its operations.

The team behind will continue to work as long as they are still getting support from the market and still receiving profits. All those controversies have impacts to this  project and from what we are still witnessing it's still continuing the progress. Value still competitive and investors are still playing and
taking every opportunities that they can get while investing with this coin, it's not worthless yet and far from dying.

I really like ripple and I don't want to see that coin to disappear on the crypto market. Maybe for others it is wortless but for us this coin is really worth it because you different from us and we are different opinions.  Both bitcoin and ethereum is good and this is really give traders a good profit but also ripple for sure will give it to us if people give it chance.

   Sounds like you talk about DigiByte. They are true decentralized project, I am part of that community for some
time and they are truly amazing.
   Check them out. Price of DigiByte is low and stable, but I think it will grow in the future. I watch what they are
doing and how they spread the word. Without central board of directors, without ICO and fund raising, they survived
all this years.

this coin, which can not be considered as a cryptocurrency, will survive many revolutions in the world of cryptocurrencies. it is backed by conventional money and floats in the banking sector.

Why would ripple be dead ? They have xrapid and they are about to buy 30mil$ of MoneyGram shares which will boost Ripple to another level but in the long run I don't know how stable this could be as here in my country Bitcoin had a similar partnership with Smith&Smith but it did not work for long as there were a lot of shady people cashing out big amount of money.
Ripple also has a lot of supporters but most of them coming from the last bull run and not they are promoting Ripple all over the internet trying out to increase the ripple price but as far as I know the owner has more than 50% of the total supply and they release every month a certain amount if coins and money into market.
In the end ripple will survive but I doubt it can hold the position of top 5 on coinmarketcap.

Many factors that make the coin ripple continue to survive until now in the cryptocurrency trading market, although many people predict that the coin ripple will become a dead coin but in fact the coin ripple continues to grow by 200% by the end of 2018 and this is due to the stronger ripple community when this, especially in 2019 many exchanges that have collaborated with coin ripples and of course this makes coin ripples more developed,  and we know that this coin ripple is one of the coins that have a large partner in their project, especially the central bank that continues to support coin ripple

This is an undeniable fact about Ripple. Aside the native coin of an exchange like Bitrue, this large exchange prefer to use Ripple in tipping its members who visit the platform everyday and also hold an amount of funds on the exchange. This shows how strong and supportive the community of Ripple is.

i dont see ripple dying that soon as it has attach it self to a great part in terms of money which could be use for fast payment with borderless issue and has a capacity to scape thru even when other coin cant with its ideology .

Not a Ripple fan but I'm using ripple to cashout from exchanges due to cheaper fees and its fast compare to other coins but definitely will not hold this for long term. Ripple is really trying their best to be the fastest remittance entity, penetrating the remittance industry and Banks.

To the loyal and informed Ripple supporters on this thread, it was not my
intent to disparage, denigrate and otherwise cause harm. I do understand
and get your bet, and I commend you for placing one. Without our bets,
there would be no hope of escaping the gravity of the dull and dreary crowd.

I used Ripple only as an example because it is a large, slow moving, easy target.
I think the markets they have chosen to serve will serve Ripple well. I see it as
theirs to lose, and they at least have a track record of not having done that.

However, it was my intent that the topic would prove useful to the participants,
myself included. In using Ripple simply as juxtaposition vis-à-vis a true cryptocurrency
eco-system, those contributors who took an opposing view delivered an analysis that is
priceless. I encourage all to re-read and thank you for the opportunity to learn.

I doubt if ripple can be dead easily because they keep on expanding and thy have some unknown financial backing.
This happened just 8 hours ago https://www.coindesk.com/ripple-expands-into-iceland-with-acquisition-of-crypto-trading-firm another one https://www.coindesk.com/ripples-xpring-looks-to-build-xrp-defi-products-with-new-acquisitio

Don't know about Ripple being dead, but as long as Ripple's XRP will be calling a 'long-term investment for several years', it's going to be afloat.
I mean look at the predictions: https://changelly.com/blog/xrp-price-prediction-2019-2020/

My last post was in accord with your positions. Ripple has chosen their market wisely. IMO, the
worst case scenario is they are acquired by their top customers and/or one of the ‘big buoys’.

Early investors should be richly rewarded for their foresight and patience…

My point is, as a clear majority of the contributors on this thread agree,
Ripple is not A Complete Fin-Tech Solution in combination with an Authentic
Trustless Capital Currency.

A Cryptocurrency Ecosystem or Cryptosphere Capable of Meeting the Needs of
Hundreds of Millions of Consumers, Traders and Trans-Actors on a Truly Global Scale.

The Monetary Eco-System must be Trustless, Decentralized, Anonymized and
'Secured' by Validated Eco-System GDP. Driving Rate of Adoption, Fungibility,
Network Services, Exchange and Utility Values. And , most importantly, transparent
Price/value discovery.

Without that you don’t know what it’s worth, whatever the bid/ask it’s still speculation.

It would all have to depend on a legit platform. If the coin was built just for the developers then the coin will fail hard.

Ripple has been doing a lot of promoting for Crypto so it is highly unlikely that their company will fall hard anytime soon though.

Again, agreed, the question is; What would a true Cryptocurrency Ecosystem or Cryptosphere Capable of Meeting the Needs of Hundreds of Millions of Consumers, Traders and Trans-Actors on a Truly Global Scale’ do, look, sound, smell, taste, feel …like

We do have, for once again in many generations, the opportunity to cut from whole cloth, as opposed to groveling at the masters table for more crumbs…

Although, it is said, if you haven’t determined who the patsy is by the time you’ve invested, it’s you…

I see no objective reason for the ripple to die. Also, I do not consider her a failure this year. This coin falls in price along with other coins, but it still has good growth potential. Although this coin is not decentralized, however, it performs its useful functions in the banking system. Also, in some states, it is well regarded as a means of payment due to the speed of transactions and the small fees for their implementation.

there are still many people believe how potential ripple is,. even my friend believes it because many big companies will partnership in the future based on articles that he read, I don't know if this really true or they just want to shill ripple.

Ripple is not dead because, You only have to do one thing well and first mover is a good plus.

in my opinion it's true, ripple already has enough partners who use it. Investment with ripple can be used as one of them. Ripple always competes in the top rank so it will be difficult if they lose trust because they have a lot of trust from the public

Ripple is still not dead and is in the top 3 of the cryptocurrency market just because this coin is centralized and it is supported by banks

There some people who are saying that in near future Ripple will go absolutely crazy.
It is hard to believe this because as i understand, Ripple as token is not used by any banks or institutions, they are using their tech not the token. And the last bull run was based on those who do not know that and pure speculators.

The reason why Ripple is not dead, just that Ripple has a prospect in a future used, Hence, base on the current price of ripple, is more courage-able to invest, and more profitable.

How do you say that one of the 2,600 who lost in 2019 was Ripple. While Ripple is still able to maintain the sale value. Even had time to compete with ETH. Ripple will continue to follow the movements of Bitcoin. I see now that the coin that continues to look for the top position is Tether. Secretly Tether got position number 4 CMC. Tether in addition to a stable value, a high amount of supply will easily catch up to the top position.

Simply to explain why ripple is still alive not die, the number reaaon is the support of the team deves and the support of the investors continue to hold and buy ripple even they know the situation of ripple in the market cap because teams and supporters are believe times comes again to goes up all altcoins in the market in the right time.

The XRP seems to never die. Because it's behind the Ripple foundation. They partner with so many banks that I don't think they will have a financial problem. There is also a huge community that trusts XRP. I'm not one of them.

I still see alot of cryptocurrency freaks chilling ripple every now and then on Twitter.... the truth is there are still alot of users who still believe in the potential of this coin

Ok I get some of your points that Ripple is one of the most hated alts right now in this community because its a bankers coin.

But that's where it got its strengths, partnering with banks around the globe. Even I was surprised that they are partnering with some local banks and crypto exchanges here in Asia, a bold move but if that what it takes for them to stay long in the game then it's a good move.

Ripple technology is really applied very well at large banks and many large countries are planning to apply this technology in the future so this is a very potential project. If you choose to invest in XRP coins, this is an investment that does not bring much profit because people do not have much interest in this coin. What everyone in this world needs is just their technology.

It is difficult to predict the value of this coin, but if XRP can reduce the supply and the development team plans to buy XRP then it will be very good for the future. XRP is currently priced at $0.2 and this is quite a high price compared to what happened.

Ripple not dead but still have lower price, when you buy Ripple with $4 and now you check Ripple price only $0.2 how can you say? I was disappointed with my investing in Ripple because they are look shit coin without have not good plan for the future to raise up back Ripple price reached $4 and higher.

Ripple is one the potential coin and it's get in the downward movement due to market. Many people are selling their holding due to the panic.My suggestion is just hold the Ripple and if possible buy some ripple at low price. When the market boom, you will get three to four times of profit.

They need to centralize the coin so that they would make money. The stuff that they are building isn't free you know.

You also need to consider the market situations, back when the price reached the highest peak most of the crypto is pumping so hard. But now, where the market is on its downfall, what to expect? The market is still relying from how the users will support each project inside, XRP still alive and still trying to work with the community.
Studying the potential and try to convince yourself if what kind of investment that's fit for this coin's behaviors will allow you to prevent losing your patience.

Ripple is not dead, there are so many reason traders of Ripple can state about this including me. I already bought some of it because I believe it will increase someday. It is on the top 10 altcoins which make it a popular and decreasing the risk of getting lose money. The 24 hours volume of ripple altcoin is still large for me though there is some down on it still I believe it will increase in just a matter of time.
Ripple also had their company transparent to their clients/investors like us that's why it has a very big potential to increase in the future.

if you have a dream XRP will return at $ 4 it's not wrong, because everything can happen here, but my advice is to use a wise strategy,
or maybe investing with a maximum of 50% of funds is also good, and XRP is not dead

Ripple isn't dead because it is a legacy (2005) technology with first mover advantage.
It is not, however, a useful cryptocurrency. Their partners do not use their native token.
They're just another centralized gatekeeper, implemented by virtue of blockchain technology.

RIP, is not dead because it’s a welcome back to the matrix redux.

Ripple will not be dead it is because those whaler who support this was the one controlled over it, imagined they can able to increase and pump the price where it attracts most of the investors in this business of crypto to buy them. And they always had an announcement to hype many to do it.

A coin that  has a market cap of about $13,013,008,899 can't be described as a dead coin. In as much that its market price dropped does not mean its dead. The rise and drop of market prices of cryptocurrencies are just one characteristics of cryptocurrencies so far as it has a good amount of trading volume. Ripple is no where closer to its death call.

Still hoping ripple will get recovered I invested here. And I don't like to lose hope because it was my hard earn money.  almost month I don't like to look in the market because of big loss. Even here on the forum 😌

there is no way the ripple will die, there are many big companies sending their money to one country to another using XRP. then XRP. you don't need to worry that XRP will continue to grow like social media like whatsapp, mesengger fb because it is still used by many people.

Because you need to first live to die. Ripple had not started to live yet. I guess sole reason for it is that no one knows what is it needed for. Maybe to buy banks before they will run out of business. Like what they did with Moneygram. Bankers need to retire wealthy.   So after they will buy all banks then Ripple mission will be over and it can die.

ripple already has a lot of users and also investor confidence in it so I think for them losing trust is very small. as long as the development is still going on I think ripple will continue to grow in the market

Reading through the thread, this is the best straight forward reply to the question asked on this thread (at your first sentence).  Talking about a more deserving coin replacing XRP, are you referring to LIBRA? if yes, Libra's launch still remains a probability because scaling through regulatory policies won't be easy.

with the amount of shills for the coin, its not going to be dead. not in a hundred years.

what is surprising about this ripple is that its added to almost all exchanges like its the most important coin of all. local exchange added them and i can even exchange them into cash. very convenient actually when using xrp to cashout since the withdrawal is the cheapest i know.

Clearly, Ripple is one of my favorite cryptocurrencies, but not as an investment, but as a use. In the long run, it's not as good investment instrument as Bitcoin because I never think its price will make it 5x to 10x.

But I always use XRP when I deposit or withdraw cryptocurrency from exchange to another exchange. Because the transaction speed is quite high. The fluctuation rates in its price are also quite low so it creates a good usage ecosystem for me. One of the key cryptocurrencies for adaptation.

The only thing I don't like about the project is that it uses a central blockchain. If they used a decentralized infrastructure, they could be my second favorite cryptocurrency after Bitcoin.

XRP has +200 financial institutions in various countries, more than 40 countries have become XRP customers. Its strong network, low transaction costs, and transaction speed will probably continue to make XRP last until later. Daily trading volume also shows XRP can compete in the crypto market.
XRP market performance looks very good, it will make them still will get the attention of investors. Below is the XRP market performance.
https://i.imgur.com/8qZSka3.png

Screenshot at: https://www.ripple.com/xrp/market-performance/

I do most of my money transfers with XRP. Because the rate of instant inflation is quite low. And it's transaction speed is really fast. My transactions take place in 1 minute.

Besides, the XRP project has thousands of partners, especially banks are part of the XRP ecosystem. In addition, the project is being managed successfully. So it would be very wrong to call XRP a dead coin.

Ripple RIP Press Release (https://apexcryptonews.com/2019/10/19/ripple-releases-quarter-3-report-claims-it-declines-xrp-sales-radically/)

ripple can be used to reduce expenses when making transactions and it is very helpful for this. plus the ripple already has many partners and the community trust in the ripple is already large because of the evidence from the volume of the market

LOL the abbreviation you derive itself showing ripple will not stay forever in the cryptocurrency market.
This is the worst cryptocurrency which is getting supported from the centralised marketplaces and big giants.

But why not to use real cryptocurrency as Bitcoin, Ethereum, DASH or even Dogecoin ;) For me even less known altcoins are better than centralized Ripple. I don't trust banks and Ripple reminds me that they made it only to have control also on cryptocurrency market. Probably Ripple will not die just because banks will pump it to keep steal from unaware users.

10 transactions per second? Are you kidding me? People are hating Bitcoin because it is able to process only 7 TPS, but this centralized ....coin is processing only 10 transactions per second. It is a sign of failure of the ripple technology or that no one is using it at all  :D.

Perhaps because it is support by banks, i hear ripple use by banks .

Well ripple has agreements with many banks and people actually use ripple as it is really fast, why would it be dead?

There are tons of coins that should be dead by now, even they are still alive, some of they are delisted from big exchanges tho.

Ripple is not dead because there are still naive people who believe it will go to the moon. It was losing value with its old CEO so they changed him and it's still losing value under the new one. XRP is shit.

It will have its pumps because the cheaper it is the easier it is to manipulate for fiat whales. Also the Ripple company needs it to be pumped from time to time because pumps mean headlines and publicity.

I pity people who are holding their XRP bags since the last Bitcoin bull market.

What's amazing to me, is this thread was started as a rhetorical question.
RIP, whatever its demise, whatever its outcome (who really gives a shit),
is simply the antithesis of cryptocurrency and the movement to take back our
financial destiny from the despots, aka, banksters, socialist engineers
and their government sycophants.

The point to me is, why in the hell is this shit even listed as a cryptocurrency? Have
we been corrupted to that degree already? Lord help us, thought we were smarter than that.

Thank you TinaK, you are a soldier in the cause. May your service continue to bless us.

Those who are holding, trading and investing in XRP would not wish its death and above all, the team will not want that to happen. These are the only set of people that can trigger its death.
A coin that has been operating for years is definitely an already established coin. Although, there are controversies on it, but that does not result into that.

It's true but would you pick a project that has been continuously put in a position where they are tagged as a manipulative project? I guess many people is trading xrp but I will still prefer eth over them. Their platform isnt really a kind of approach to decentralized and favor only big private sector and banks interest.

I don't care if Ripple dies or not, I just need it to be pumped hard one more time so I can sell my ~5400 coins and make a huge profit.  Then who cares what happens to Ripple after that!

Although Ripple has a lot of cons people, Ripple also has a large supporter. We can see this from the daily transaction value which continues to be above $ 10 million and this indicates that the liquidity of the ripple in the market is very large.

Even after those controversial issues, they are still hanging and conquering the market. Their platform brings their success up until now, this is the main reason why they still have the support of private sectors.

We can see their progress and development even after those issues, it's not dead because of the community that still believe in them.

Ripple occupy the more marketcap so it will maintain a top level on upcoming years. I think further development will never boostup the Ripple because slowly they loose the investors also and banking support platform is little attract the some investors so XRP will stay in long term and price fluctuation is slowly affect the further improvement.

This coin is no longer a good investment option because this year the downtrend is still overwhelming this market so it will be difficult for Ripple to increase in price. In my opinion the reason people do not invest in this coin is because the project development team is holding a lot of XRP and they can totally sell at any time if they want. I think if this is not fixed in the near future, XRP is just a normal coin.

There are currently hundreds of other options for you and it is best to focus on coins with good technology and low supply because that is the best choice.

In my own point of view, the reason why ripple is not dead because a lot of people still buy this coin that they believe it can still have a good value in the near future like bitcoin and ethereum. Ripple is also one of the cryptocurrencies that has a good market price, that is why it has a less chance to die.

Both Ripple and XRP (and it is always important to make the distinction, as the two are often conflated) are very strong, and likely have a great future ahead of them. As fro XRP price, this is likely heavily affected by Ripple dumping lots of XRP on quite a frequent basis. Similarly Jed McCaleb has a huge stash, which he is legally allowed to sell (within limits). These I think are the two main factors keeping XRP price down in spite of all the good news for both Ripple the company and XRP the coin.

The reason why XRP is not dead is the number of companies that use their services. In their site also explained that there are 200+ customers who work with them. Personally, I don't really like XRP either because the supply is regulated by their own policy or the company. This is what I consider XRP not crypto but rather e-payment.

Ripple becomes the center of controversy over the past few months. It will be hard for it to increase its price. It stays where it is right now and I think this will be its limit since there are other better altcoins in the market to choose with. Unless if the manipulators of that coin will make a move to try attracting investors.

It is worth remembering that XRP is not regulated by SEC, because a coin can be arbitrarily “opaque” and survive on speculation alone, without any real benefit.

Money talks a lot here huh. Besides having a very strong financial back up, I think the team from Ripple is really competent. They always try to maintain and always develop this Ripple project. Many other companies are only after profit alone, so they tend not to be able to develop further. But I noticed that this Ripple is different. Their aim is greater than money I think.

There are many coins that are dead and people will be holding those coins, i am not telling that XRP will be dead but the possibility of seeing a huge rally in the coin is highly unlike but there is a ton of liquidity in the exchanges.

A coin operating for years does not mean that it is established it all depends on the development team they have. If they are updating and taking care of the project then it will be fine.

Ripple is not a breakthrough technology, its rival Stellar created by Ripple founder Jed McCaleb has much greater potential than Ripple, Stellar supports smart contracts and Ripple is not. Moreover, Ripple controls most of the Ripple net so it is not decentralized.

-wants to sound smart
-totally fails

Ripple supports smart contracts.

Ripple only  controls 20% of ripplenet validators, if we take it precisely then its is MORE DECENTRALISED THAN BTC AND ETHIRIUM

I didnt know stellar is greater,  only thing i know stellar is giving money away for free  ;D ;D
AND the founder can create more stellar as they wish. BTW, IBM ditched stellar and so did stronghold. Stellar network was down for a day cause the network went offline L O L

I am not a big supporter of Ripple, but I would say one thing - Ripple is having a good number of powerful backers and that's the reason why it is currently the 3rd largest cryptocurrency (in terms of market capitalization). Stellar Lumens is technologically much advanced when compared to XRP and doesn't have the negatives usually associated with XRP such as centralization. But despite all this, it is currently ranked at the 10th position, with a market cap less than 1/10th that of XRP.

Now the question is why XRP's market cap is 10 times that of XLM. There is no short answer to this, as a lot of factors come to play. The first thing to remember is that there is a lot of market manipulation going on with the altcoins and XRP promoters can afford to spend money to manipulate the exchange rates of XRP. XLM is at a disadvantage here. Also, the market cap of XRP is inflated, as I have stated in many of my earlier posts.

ripple will not die, because ripple is one of the favorite coins and has the lowest transfer fee among other popular coins and almost all exchanges provide it, being an alternative to reduce transfer fees. that's my reason why for me ripple means so much.
and sometimes if lucky investment in ripple provides a lot of gains profit compared to other alt.

It seems to me that Ripples has not only a lot of good patrons, but also a smart professional team that really works correctly to popularize and prospects for its project.  Today, Ripples is already starting to cooperate with such companies whose partners are several dozen large banks around the world.  All that is happening today with the ripples is primarily the merit of the team.

^^^^ It is not surprising. The rise of XRP have made many of its creators uber-rich and these guys can easily spend a few hundred million USD every year to prop up that coin. And they have already managed to build some partnerships with the banks and other financial institutions. If you analyze, you will see that the XRP volumes are much lower than that of other cryptos such as LTC and ECH. But they have been successful in maintaining their rank according to the market cap.

waiting for XRP to touch $0.3 actually
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ripple

There's no way ripple will die. I'm not a big fan of ripple but I know that ripple is the number three biggest cryptocurrency after bitcoin and ethereum which is supported by a powerful group of people. Ripple has always been one of the favourites in cryptocurrency business so there's no way ripple will die.

The Revolution Will Not Be Centralized…RIP.

You are absolutely right, it is very unlikely that Ripple will die. Because they have very large funds in managing such a large company. Not to mention, they have collaborated with several well-known companies. It's really impossible to see them run away from what they have gotten so far. And they get a high rank on CoinMarketCap because they have many large and small investors who actively trade their tokens on several exchanges. I'm also very enthusiastic in seeing the progress made by Ripple.

Ripple will never become shitcoin as it has backing from banks and central financial organization,  it will be highly unpredictable due to its centralize nature as the developers can manipulate  the price anytime as they don't have fixed market supply and it's just like fiat. The positive thing about ripple is that it might bring revolution  to the way banking domain works which will be helpful for non crypto users but challenge for crypto in the future due the the features which will be provided by Ripple incase if it openly reveals about it's centralized status which is currently denied by it.

You are wise, making the case it was born a shitecoin “it has backing from banks and central financial organization”.
Of course you can make money from it, the point being it’s not a part of the revolution. This is the past clinging to…?

The revolution will be televised  ;)


https://youtu.be/bSO7BdElRpk

So many people will be shell shocked when XRP takes on

yeah that's why Ripple still exist untill today because ripple backed by big company, especially from banking industry where the are partnership with Ripple, that's make Ripple Stronger

You must have a special TV, it will be broadcast over your google plex,
unfiltered of course…


Not sure where you intended to go with that…

Not a student of history, are you?


Spoiler alert:


The future repeats its-self, like banksters.

Who is the company that backed ripple? i have seen so many news and not even one of them has backed ripply. The bankers are even choosing to use blockchain that created by R3 consortium. In this case, ripple act as a looser but the speculators are still throwing their money to the ripple.
This is not even a transparent company. People these days are doing very wrong by throwing their money to the ripple.

In my opinion they are only interested in the technology of this project and have no interest in the value of XRP. In fact, the coin is very much dependent on the volatility of Bitcoin and it is impossible to predict what will happen next if the market declines. I am not interested in this coin because Ripple current supply is too large and every month hundreds of millions of XRP are unlocked so the price of this coin will drop even more in the near future.

You should think carefully when deciding to invest in this coin because I am sure XRP will return to the price of $0.1 this year and there are not many opportunities to make money during this time.

All the same, as often reiterated by Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse himself,
Ripple is not XRP. And victories for Ripple, as detailed, have no bearing
on the XRP price whatsoever.

However, as clear as that well-worn statement is, things took a twist recently
when Castle Island VC partner (https://www.castleisland.vc/), Nic Carter,
called Ripple out for their complicated relationship with XRP. He said:

“For the record, these psychopaths are still literally and without a shred of irony
claiming that they “discovered” XRP as opposed to having created it.”

Ripple has a final purpose when it is developed, so it won't just die. Because Ripple's target is very far ahead. And now Ripple has the support of several countries. If I'm not mistaken, German fully supports the existence of Ripple.

I'm afraid ripple is like one of those roaches that won't die. My guess? It's the typical 'investor guilt' where they bought this shitcoin-->lost money-->hold with the hopes of breaking even. Sounds like most crypto holders to me, tbh.

The reason behind why Ripple still remains alive because there are still lots of people who still keeps on believing into the capacity and capability of Ripple to grow despite of many circumstances. As of the moment if you can notice, right after the long down fall, Ripple's price have already increased righr upon the entrance of this year 2020 wherein there is a positive movement on the price of Ripple that from a very low price, its price goes up into a somehow desirable price that can be comparable to the prices of the other existing Altcoins in the market. This just proves that despite of a having a very low price, a cryptocurrency can undergo certain improvements making it still worthy and have a potential to grow over a period of time like Ripple who still remains alive despite of all odds because of many people's belief and trust on its capacity.

Ripple is perhaps the only cryptocurrency which enjoys almost unlimited support from the wall street giants. The bankers also seems to be excited about XRP, which is a bad sign as far as I am concerned. Anyway, the support XRP managed to receive from the bankers and hedge fund managers explain why this shitcoin is not dead yet. How can it die down, when it is being supported by all these whales?

RIP is a nuclear cockroach, hence the antithesis of what the
cryptocurrency movement is about.

It is evident that ripple is been hated by majority of users but on the other hand, the team are still developing, they are still seeking partnerships, investors are still buying, transactions are still taking place etc. So if all these can still be happening, then it means there is something either the investors are after or something the team want to achieve on the long run. Therefore, from my little observations, I think these are the reasons why ripple is still not dead.

Ripple has existed for so many years, and it has developed very well recently. It has cooperated with many companies behind it. At the same time, they have listed a lot of exchanges. There are also many fans and supporters behind it. I think Ripple will continue to exist in the crypto market. Just a little bad. The total amount of Ripple is too large.

I feel really sad for XRP holders, they have massively lost out from the current market gain and bull run. There is too much HYIP around it, today it's not as profitable as thought. I hope the team fix this.

To be honest, it doesn't look as alive as it did before and I think that people are slowly but surely realizing that it's a bad investment. True, it's still floating but it's not going to last.

well, bitstorage exchange does trust XRP as it was listed at the exchange not so long ago. bitstorage is not big exchange so it wouldn't list XRP, if XRP was dead

No matter how ridiculous a project is if you have enough money you can keep the project alive, this is what's happening in Ripple's case, but I fear it won't last for long

That's really match with the condition on ripple when this coin has no utility usage and the developers are still dumping their money that they got it from the market to make ripple alive. Crypto is about the competition for a project with a good product will be survive no matter what happen with the market.
Look at how many already spent by this company to do so many marketing and cooperation to make the coin seems a healthy coin right now.
Money matters a lot in this case.

Many don't like XRP yet it is one of the coins that won't just die, even being ridiculed it keeps maintaining its growth, partnership and so on. Yes XRP isn't what is known as a good platform when taking into account decentralized platforms but on the other hand it has been performing well than most altcoins. In my own opinion, XRP won't die anytime soon until the crypto space understands what it means to be decentralized and only then will the attention be shifted to projects which are decentralized and are worth it.

It not only that, XRP is not as bad as what people are thinking about it.  It may have slumped in weeks or months but that is how the market flows. XRP has one of the fastest and cheapest transactions in blockchain and I still think that there are still a lot of develoments coming in the future.

Agree with both the aspects (transaction speed/cost and development). But still I am one of the most vocal detractors of XRP here in Bitcointalk. My opposition to XRP has nothing to do with the technology or the cost. The reason I hate XRP is because it is just the opposite of the original cryptocurrency which was invented by Satoshi. He had invented Bitcoin, which is decentralized and well-distributed. On the other hand Ripple is centralized and most of the supply is owned by a handful of individuals.