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Ok this actually happens to my friend not so long ago, he is going on a boxing match and he will bet for the heavy favorite, then suddenly an unknown guy whisper to him, that the fight is going to be fixed and he supposedly heard it from the favorite to win, locker room, are you going to listen to that and bet for the underdog.

What's your take?

there are fund managers who as the name says "fund managers" usually manage other people's funds. There are lawyers that provide their services to people and of course their clients should listen to every advice from their attorney or their fund manager. But in the case of betting? who is so expert at betting that you can afford to give advice to other people? And why the hell is someone going to trust and believe in a possible expert in the betting world? i believe that in the betting world every person should trust himself and decide for himself

I think I will listen to that guy and bet for what he suggested while I also bet for my favorite too. I spread my chance to win in betting by choosing both. I will use 50:50 to bet, and I will place a bet on both of them. I think if one of them will be the winner, I can get the money. That is what I will do if I can choose both of them on the bet placed.

First of all it's an unknown guy. Any guy could come up to you and blabber anything. Why would i put my money on some random guy's suggestion. For all i know it's just a way to manipulate the people's bets. Or that person may have other reasons why he did that. Bottomline is, there's no reason why i would trust someone who randomly comes up telling me where to place my bets.

This is the first thing comes up in my mind, "unknown guy". So, your friend listens to that unknown guy and had a quick changing of mind?
I do have my own research and I think I don't listen to anyone as long as I had decided already which team to pick my odds. You can decide on your own and did not listen to anyone saying. Because sometimes you will feel regret once you did not follow your own pick rather than following others advice.

I agreed this fixed thing can be a set up only and like what you have said why would you put your money on a random people's suggestion this might be a trap in the end and if you would bet your money on it and turns out it is not you can not take back what you have lost, And if this is a syndicate you might get in trouble if you would make a scene that you want your money back, or worst the authorities will not believe you, I don't see any point on making the matched fixed if it is a main event but I guess this kind of fixed part maybe is happening but not with the main event ones.

I think something like this has become an issue that there are a number of matches set up for who will win, which is surprising, but when it comes to money a lot of things can happen.

If this happen to me the I will stick to my choice even if there will be regret because what he says happen. For me it is more important to trust my own choice than someone's advice that we don't know who he is.

Hard to understand what you are trying to say. I am assuming you are saying that you placed a bet on a team but then a random person comes in with information that the match has been fixed and knows who the winning team is and tips you with who the team that is going to win will be. Well, first of all, why would I listen to a random dude tell me who is going to win. Secondly, why would that person randomly tell me who is going to win? I mean what is in for him? How is going to get any profit/benefit from telling me this secret? Everything would sound fishy to me so I wouldn't pay attention to him.

You know what you are right, back to my friend's story, it is a fake report, the heavy favorite wins the match and he happens to bet on the underdog with all his money, unfortunately he did not see the guy who whispers to him anymore, it's a lesson learned, he should first verify the source of the news, it's a strategy by other people to deceive others to bet on the underdog.

If I will digest this person's words again, I will think carefully. I will see opponents who fight whether they have a chance to win or not. And the final decision I prefer to trust my instincts rather than trusting what people say. And I will have no problem if my choice loses.

unknown ppl are not trustworthy  human on this earth mate. so  you must not listen to them because, who knows maybe they are in the other side ? so you should focus on your bet especially if you are really sure that your favorite boxer has a potential on that match. Be practical and stay away on that kind of rumors because regrets always happened afterwards so always listen to your mind not on the rat that keep running on your heart.  Lol

I would be highly doubtful that this random person in the audience actually knows that the match is a fix, and if he had such damning information, why would he tell me?

Fixing in sports is highly illegal, people don't just go spouting off this information willy nilly. That's a good way to end up in jail.

well said, why will take that risk without even looking for assurance? of course if you have enough understanding about the possible things that might happen, you will not believe it. Since nowadays people are using different strategies to deceive us and that is the reason why we need to be conscious of everything.

I won't mind, but there are such incidents happening around. Recently in our forum one of the user revealed about a confirmed win on a match. I don't remember it clearly, it seems to be basketball tournament in Philippines. That was a fix and for two matches he suggested the odds, as he mentioned the respective odd won. So, if it is from trusted source then we can go for it.

It actually depends on me if i know what I am doing and i know what is the capability of the fighter I'm choosing then i would choose my best fighter. But if i am having a doubt to the fighter then i might rather consider the option of a stranger but I wouldn't give all of my bets since I don't trust any stranger. But if I know who is that stranger, then I might consider to put a huge bet.

No, they are telling people randomly for a reason and its not likely to be a reason that benefits you.   Seems unlikely to work out, unless this hint coincidences with a suspicion you already had or plays into thinking you were already considering then no.
   Theres always hot tips, especially on horse racing as well but theres nothing as good as knowing the ground, the horse and jockey because it all adds up.    Throwing a fight and that news getting out would ruin the odds, if someone is paying for that throw they dont want it to get out.

Some scenario on this kind sports, actually have that. Unless the player was very talented at all aspects. But if not and just want some fame, your team especially the company can make a fix match for that specific untalented person.

And if you'll gonna ask me, if I haven't accidentally heard that then I might go for the other one, but besides I overheard that conversation then I will go to the sure winning team. Money is a different thing here, I don't care about idols and their careers LoL.

Just ignore it,do what you are intended to do.He has no reason to tell you that match was fixed for free.

There are some random people out there to confuse the players too,they will get fun when you lose the bets which is kind of addiction too.

It's a risk and it may sometimes be worth to take the risk. If i were at your side, i would have listen to my friend and take the risk. Also you know that if you go against the majority of the bets, you get the better amount on winning such bets.

Depends on how big the said event is.

If for normal and small events, like small competition, small leagues or something along those lines, a fixed match is more prone to happen. There is a chance that the unknown guy is telling the truth or just luring anyone on a trap to loss at the end.

If for big events, fixed matches are quite not likely to happen or just a low chance. It was surely organized by a Central Sports Organization or any related bodies and there are big people and companies (as sponsors) behind those events that obviously, they can't just be lured to do something illegal. And players involved in that said event does have a reputation to protect and one wrong mistake to participate in that fixed match scheme, they will surely say goodbye to their career. And for let's say, there's a fixed match involved on such big event, it was done professionally and not just via random guy whispering to random people on the venue.

Bottom line: Why should I follow those?

You should verify the source of the issues and ask the guy who told you that, double-checking is very important but fixing a fight should not be tolerated but it will put you in trouble if you tell the authorities, it's better to verify and if you cannot verify it, then it's better to go to your original bet.
You'll know if the guy is telling the truth after the fight if the heavy favorite is not giving his all in the fight, usually, a big syndicate is behind this, it's better to keep quiet to protect yourself.

If i already had a bet on the other guy I wouldn't change it but if I did not have any I'd measure my trust in money. If he looked trustworthy I'd put some money on it like 20 dollars. This would still be a nice big win because the boxer is an underdog and if i lost it wouldn't be painful. The loser my trust the less money I'd bet.

Usually the person with the tip has nothing to gain by making you bet a few dollars so it's a joke or he's telling the truth.

Well, probably it will be fixed and it depends on the situation. I won't trust those random people who telling or trying to dictate you which better and have a chance to win. At the first place surely you feel doubt of course. Probably there is a trap ahead or might be the guy who whispers telling the truth. A better option I guess is to talk back the guy who whispering you and ask where did he come from that horrible information. ;D

I'm curious to know the result of boxing match whether the underdog won or such as people predicted that the favourite won the fight because he was too strong for his opponent but listen unknown people to make a bet is not good decission because he can be lied and i fear they or he will provide wrong option to us and to gamble i think before making bets you should be confident to your own choice

I am the one that started the thread and already made a post on who wins, it's actually fake news, the favorite win the match and it was a very dominant performance, but unfortunately, he did not double-check and he lost a big amount of money.
I think this is not an isolated case, it's some sort of syndicate to give rumors and when they buy it they can level the betting.
it happens to small matches but I doubt if it's happening to big matches.

Lookout for the guy,is he comes to that place often or he linked with the players?

Most probably it will be just to gamblers if he lost his money from these kind of bets so he actually looking for everyone to lose.

I'll probably take a couple dollars off of my pocket and just play it for the lulz if I'm not really betting for anything in the first place. Usually no person would tell another stranger that the match is fixed without any solid reason, and this does not happen in real-world scenario either. I'd believe in the guy if he would take some more effort into convincing me apart from the "I heard it on the locker room" excuse that anyone can pull off. A couple dollars I can spare to bet on the guy he pointed to isn't gonna hurt that much IMO, and would actually be a good thing if it wins because I will have some beer money on the side.

On these kind of situations where you hear out such whispers it will surely disrupt you on what would be your final bet.You cant really deny to yourself that you wont react on such whisper even if we do know if its serious or not.We would really have that second thoughts after that.

Whats my take? I might able to take it seriously but would depend on the stats if they are close enough or too far in terms of winning percentage and if such advise is considerable then I might take it.

First, I believe that some of the fight in sports are rigged/fixed.  So if someone whispered about the fight being rigged, I won't be surprised because it exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leWuKR4TOY0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsXjCAd5LRw

I would gladly bet on the undergod, reason, if it is not rigged there is always a possibility that this underdog can win and if it is, they a win is surely 100%.

It is indeed suspicious, but if we have money that can be spent it does not hurt to try it because this is gambling and maybe it will be another lucky factor that might make us win easily.

Having a wider chance to win any of my game is my hobbing and, I have not regret my actions in doing so. More as they will advise you to diversify your portfolios so also is gambling. If I were your friend, I bet against the underdog and another one of my own bet, the beauty of this is that; your game or games are sure to get the jackpot for you. Almost all my games are double chances games ever since I became a gambler.

once they say that the match is fix , there is no need for them to teach you on where to bet next because its now obvious that the other side will win  .

its possible . i see many sports betting games before that has been fixed  . the pay for those players are much higher or there is a threat for thier lives , thats why they do everything even if they loose thier fame  . however there are those that continue fighting for thier reputation and dont listen to others  .

I doubt it is true mate, first how can you believe with such stranger who whispered to you. Probably, he has thinking something about to you or we just don't know what it is? Or it could be that unknown person want to bet a big amount to that fight. But of course the last decision still be yours mate, besides its you choice and money to be gamble.

I usually won't take any word from a random and complete stranger with weight. For sure, I would doubt the stranger more than believe him. Most probably, I would dismiss it immediately as sheer nuisance. He could simply be someone luring you to place your bet on the opponent for better odds perhaps. And believe me, in matches where gambling is involved, rumors, conspiracies, and speculations freely roam around. I better be betting based on my analysis.

 

Although fixed match is usually happen, but i will still believe with my bet. If i take a suggestion, maybe from my close friends and not from strangers. But not resist if fixed match is usually happen not only in boxing, but on other sports.

It's important to verify much more if it's coming from an unknown person, some syndicates are doing this so people will bet on the underdog until you verify the accuracy of the news you should stick to your decision on who you will bet, people will suspect if the outcome is questionable.

What's the point on listening to that guy who whispered the deal to you? You are not choosing him but just trying to experiment if it is really true because you bet on both. You are not gambling at all but just playing with your money. But the 'fix' is a very common rumours in sports like in basketball or in the fighting type but perhaps it's true in small community or in local but if it's international then I don't think it's true or just rare.

I would stick to my first pick. Maybe the stranger already placed his bet on the favorite and wants to improve his chances of winning more money by encouraging others to bet on the other side. I'm curious to what happened to the fight, who won?

I will not hear what he say, and I still pick what I want if I believe that what I choose can have a chance to win. But if I don't know anything, then I might hear him and place the bet for what he suggested. I think that can happen in many places as if we are in the real casino or the real places, and we will hear many sounds from many people that will suggest choosing what he said.

on casinos , you shouldnt believe on what others are saying because its imposible to know the outcome of most casino games not unless they are the operator of those machines and they already tweak or modify its settings  but on live games like boxing and jai alai , the fixing games are possible  . this why i dont bet on these kind of games because i dont know if who to trust  .  i will  only bet on the games that im more familiar with and i will only believe on my own self.

The FIX IS IN, it happens and its still happening, not only in boxing but in any sports.
This is happening because we love to gamble and money can always influence the credibility of players, fighters, referee, and even officials.
Not sport is not corrupt because there's always money involve and that shows how greedy people are.

Corruption is everywhere, so gambling industry would not different from it. Sometime we heard that the match was fixed from beginning. And its happening most of sports. So I would believe that match is fixed if news source is treatable. In my opinions, maximum fixed game happening on Boxing sport. Because it's very easy to convince player since there is only single player. And obviously whales gamblers getting benefits from fixed game, and they are the one who is organizing.

In every sport, there is a risk of an upset the recent one is the Joshua Ruiz match you can listen to that rumors or you prefer to invest in your favorite to win either way the chances to win is on how true is the rumor it could be fix or a set up but either way you need to really verify the rumor.

That's why the betting against the public is one of the most popular method use by smart gamblers because they know that sports gambling are fix.
When the money is flowing in one side, that would likely result to a fix game, even with small point differential, that would result to a big money, so they can do that. Fixing games is like mastering what they are doing, in the NBA there's a controversy that they were fixing games in the past.

you can check the video .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0otDAgN4OY

Well, I guess you can't trust a rumor just like that. It has to be verified by few trusted and experienced people around there. You have to even understand why an unknown guy would whisper to your friend about the match result. He probably works for the operators of the betting center and wanted to get as many undecided gamblers/customers as possible to bet.  The favorite to win is the most expensive bet, right? I think he wanted to persuade your friend to take the risk.

First of all i never bet on favorite because i know favorite mostly lose. I will also not listen to gossips that happened in Locker room as it could be rumors.
I will watch the match to some extent and see who is playing better and then bet on it.

First of all I'll make a fast analysis of the man who whispered that to me. If I decide he is at least a bit trustworthy and could have really got the tip from somewhere I'll definitely place a small bet on the underdog. My philosophy when gambling is "always do it for fun and nothing else!" so taking that into account I would still place a bet on my favorite player.

Most of these so-called "whisperers" at matches just want to fool people. Let's think about it.. why would he share this tip with you? Being serious now, how many people going to boxing matches are kind and willing to make other people money  ::)

The game will go against or for any of the bet picked by the two players, as there was no record for the winner of the game in OP write up. Actually I will believed that, the game went well with one of the picked as it will be impossible for the two games to go through. I have been a victim for this circumstances not even twice but learnt my lesson of not going by my pick alone neither stick with pick of a friend. After place bet on my pick, I also pick from good gamblers friends I have around me.

Why not? Most of the time those kind of whispers are good to bet. Mostly, I have experienced that on horse gambling and I would say I won good money.

So I might throw some money in there, just for the sake for to see if it is real or not or just a coincidence, still there is money to be won here, so I will go with that whispers and see how it goes.

We're already in the 21th century and I doubt that we still under the 'boxing fix matches' era. If this is the 60's then it's possible that boxing match are fix because of the so called involvement of mafia.

With that said, I won't believed that unknown guy, boxing fans usually don't listen to this kind of whispers because they know the caliber of the fighters involved. And if ever a favorite fighter took a dive just for the sake of making money for him or for some organizations then I'm sure he will be investigate and could be ban for life.

Well question to be answered is “who’s the guy whispered your friend?is he legit or just random person that spreading lies?this is important to this issue

Second question “Who Wins” in that fight?does the whisperer is right or not?but even if he gets it right still maybe he is just lucky

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I will never listen to anyone when betting because I usually bet in my favorite an because I trust he’s capacity to win and not just because I bet on him

Since it was said by unknown guy, much better if I won't continue to place a bet, atleast my mind is calm or I'll ask that guy to show his own bet. If he didn't want to then he is obviously saying a lie. Anyway op, what happened to the fight? Who won? Of course, you've asked your friend who won, right? You should have posted it as well in order to make your story really believable.

It doesn't happen very often in every sports, i've been betting(for a few years) in almost every sports and not a single match that I followed had suspicion of match fixing. On less popular leagues it's possible because they could get paid higher through fixing but on the top leagues money is less of a problem. With that being said the players will always put their best until they get to the top rather than pull a fix.

I prefer staying out of the situation and just watch the match because if it loses I would feel like an idiot for taking such random advice.

I would probably not bet at all on that match, not anymore. I would be mixed between my initial bet and the "new info" that could be real or fake.

Probably, I'll wouldn't put any bets just to be sure. Besides I wouldn't take any advice from unknown guy because there is a possibility that they are just only manipulate the bets. Moreover if it is really a fixed fight then the people only knows about it are the boxer and their managers not just a random guy.

Mystery guy can always be there to play with your emotions. They can manipulate you as there's also greed inside you. Thinking that there's a chance that the whisper can be true and bring a huge benefit. Though most of the time, it's not accurate not unless it's not a mystery person but an actual fixers from the gambling business.

It's not new anymore that gambling industry have this kind of activities. The market is full of greedy people who always wanted to earn even doing illegal things.

LOL no. Why do you think some guy is telling random strangers about this? It's likely they have "whisperers" in games like this trying to sway the way some bettors would bet.

If I'm throwing away money on something uncertain to begin with, might as well solve that uncertainty myself.

Someone's been kidding obviously

Really, why would you seriously expect a totally random dude to tell you something which, if true, would let you grab easy money? There is no reason in doing this, i.e. the only reason that you can come up with is someone trying to make a fool of you. As the famous (or infamous, depending on your stance) con artist Joseph Weil (aka Yellow Kid) once said, each of his victims had larceny in their heart. So it is the same here with the aim to make your greed cloud your reason and common sense (for the fun of it)

You still need to verify if the source is reliable and besides not all bettors can bet on underdogs, only brave bettors go and gamble for underdogs only veteran gamblers with an appetite for high-risk betting, if he happens to have this trait he'll go bet for the underdog whether the news is reliable or not. of course we all love to win big amount on betting in an underdog if he can verify the news and it turn out to be true then you're one lucky guy

I wouldn't trust the words of a man I don't even know and would bet on a heavy boxer. I understand your friend was analyzing the outcome of the match and changing his choice because of the stranger's opinion is foolish.

it is true that some time underdogs also perform and win matches, so taking risk is worthy if the winning price of underdog is good then we can take risk, but same time i will split and bet and i will also bet on favourite also as if he wins then atleast will get back the lost amount

Oh boy! We can't tell if that guy really gave you a tip or just like a wolf hiding in sheep's skin ???. Hmm, If I were be on that situation then probably I'll choose to not bet anymore simply because worse regrets might feel once you lose. If you listen and you lose then you will even blame yourself for trusting that guy; on the other hand, you will also feel so much regret for not listening to him if he is right. It was such a pain in the butt to think those kind of things, I really hate overthinking. So what would I do is to postpone my bet and do it next time.

If I find out about such a thing my reaction will be to not bet on that particular fight and if possible I will never place a bet on the fights of those fighters ever again, there is a reason why fixing a sporting event is not only wrong but even illegal in many countries and that is because you expect that each participant has a desire to win and that they do everything they can to reach victory, once they break away from that principle then any competition becomes a joke and it is not worth watching it anymore.

Makes sense if you cannot verify it's better to not bet at all, you will just disappoint yourself because you are now thinking two outcomes, it's either true or not, so it's better not bet for that match and see the outcome and if you are going to be a victim of false information.

Much better to not to allow yourself to regret things as both sides there's chances that fate will play with you, not betting from that particular event will save you both time and your money. Plus the stress that will be bring by this misinformation that will encircle to your mind. Else, if you are sure enough with your original pick and you are willing to handle whatever outcome brings you bet with smile and hope that it will give you the win that you expect.

If I heard that and I already bet for the heavy favorite, I would bet the same amount for the underdog. So that I will not lose a lot of money in that match. But if the heavy favorite win the game I will regret that I didn't trust my instinct in betting.

Its a matter or risk though since there would be always two outcomes with your choices its either you would follow your guts or you would follow others suggestions or things been said.

Bet according to your choices and your guts and don't ever tend to listen up others choices because it will just end up for you to regret if the outcome oppose into you.

Specifically, I don't think the friend is foolish by follow the strangers opinion in the change of the bet. Come to think of this; if you have been close to friends with similar mindset when it come to gambling. I have been around many friends who have helped me with my bet  changed and I worn. How many times do you place a bet and worn? I mean, on your own bet placement. No man is an island, we all depends on each other for information. When they whisper it into your ear, kindly make another bet to support your initial bet placement.

Although there could be a chance that the unknown guy which informed your friend about the boxing fight to be fixed may be lying but a situation like this happened sometime in the sports game and if I am your friend I will follow my heart while I place big bet on my previous decision and place a small amount bet on the underdog which the unknown guy said he's going to win.

I won't listen to that. I believe that every athlete/player has dignity and won't be easily get blinded by bribery. Thus, I won't change my mind in placing my bet to my desired player/athlete regardless of what that unknown guy told to us/me. I'm not placing bet to a player that I don't know perhaps that's why I'm able to say this. I might be wrong but my perspective in sports betting won't change until I've experienced anomaly to atleast a single game.

Nice counter if you have heard someone doing this. But this has never happened to me, I've heard about this but it's offshore and AFAIK there's someone that even posted here before with a basketball league somewhere on US but it's not NBA. I can't remember those information that he has given but it's clear that it's a fixed match base on what he said. And coming from someone who you don't even know? a total stranger will tell you about a fix match? kind of difficult to believe but if the organizers find it out, the athletes would be fined heavily.

We have the same perspectives on this matter. Aside from that, that person is a nobody to you, so why should it affect on your decision? For all we know, they are just random planted individuals to spread something negative for their own gain. We don't know their intentions why they are doing such act. I will place my bet for the boxer that I know will win the game and not influence by just random stranger. If I am betting, it means I know the sport and confident about my decision. My money, my bet! Simple as that.

Yeah right and besides how reliable a RANDOM person that will whisper you and may risk you money betting  tips from untrusted person
Exactly why need the help of others when we can at least spend our money on our own..will never listen to someone I never know that deep

While chatting in sofascore room you will find plenty of whisperers commenting live that this match is sold, X had sold this match to Y. But as soon as the results are near they are offline and we never hear from them. Frankly i would ignore such whisperers.

Nothing’s impossible in gambling because people inside is full of greed people so whispering a fix outcome can be put in effect

I remember wayback when I am still playing Horse Race ,there are one senior employee inside the company the giving us advice feeds in which horse will win in specific race and know what?its 80-90% accurate so if they can do this in Horse racing that has 8-10 runner then how easy they make for boxing that has 2 fighters only?

Those are scammers and we cannot find anything positive from them,so try to analyze first of the whisper coming from random people that we just met that time

What's even funnier is that whisperers are coming from all sides. One whispers this and the other whispers that. It is always my experience that in an arena full of people, one stranger will whisper his prediction in your one ear while in another someone loudly predicts with a claim of an insider info that the opponent will come out the winner. Everything will always be confusing. At the end of the day, the best way is to stick to your analysis and make sure it is based on something solid.

By the way, if that senior employee inside that horse race company will not stop that leak whispering, he'll surely be looking for a job really soon.

The moment you have a second thought about where you are going to put your bet, you already lost. You don't want to listen to a stranger that randomly walks towards you and say something like that, most of the time it is just a bluff or he is just making fun of you, and if he successfully get into your mind, then you are messed up. So if you are having a hard time deciding where to bet, because you have second thoughts, please don't bet your money, I'm 100% sure you are going to lose that bet.

Go to another game and place your bet on something you are sure about, so you will not regret anything you do in the end.

It's just plain stupid, to be honest. And i think people aren't dumb enough to place bets based on the suggestion of a complete stranger. That just won't make sense. I agree. Sometimes, a person's intuition can save him from losing a lot. I think it's a wise choice to follow your instincts. Having second thoughts or hesitation is your instincts already telling you not to push through with what you're about to do.

Most likely yes because in gambling everything isn’t possible if money is involved.though there’s a doubt trusting people you don’t really know but sometimes these people are the one who will bring you fortune specially in cheating like what you have mentioned.but what I wanna asked is what is the result of the fight?since it’s already happen so does the result favor your friend?or did he follow what the whisperer told him?your story is a little bit short and the result wasn’t mentioned.but for me i will follow my instincts because this will risk my hard earned money and whatever the result is still I am the one who will suffer.i am wondering how did your friend reacted when the whisper comes her ear?well I might think that he was shocked and confused that very moment?

Probably I will cancel my bet if thats the scenario. Fixed matches are indeed happening in any sports category nowadays. I might not gonna listen to a stranger but probably will have a second thought on whether he's telling the truth or not. Its nothing new when you heard such controversy in a boxing match. It even happened on the biggest event, if some of you remember the fight between Pacquiao and Horn. Though, it wasnt really called a fixed match, but the result was rigged. So, how much more on local match?

My action will depend on who this person who tells that is.
If he is a reliable or I know that he knows then I would change my bet. At least, I would place 2 bets for both results and make profit in both ways without any real stress.

If you are just an ordinary person, you would not know if the fight is fix or not, especially if its a popular fight where there's big money at stake.
Just don't take it seriously and go with your guts, that's what we do as a gambler and we need to be clever all the time.

When analyzing the fight, always consider a possibility that the game could be fix and what I learned is I don't bet on the heavy favorites as when most money are in that favorite, there's a chance an upset will happen.

If that was a horse racing i would pick the longshot since fixing in racing are true in my country but i didn't that happens in boxing too. Anyway if that happens i will just cancel my bet since i really don't know if the stranger tells the truth or he's just fooling other gamblers that the fight will be rigged so, that the other competitor will have bets and many money will return to casino.

This could possibly happen in any sport. No one actually knows what happens before the start of any match. What is suspicious is why would a random guy tell you that. It is difficult to listen to hearsay or something that he could have heard because of eavesdropping, or the one who told you could be making it up to mess up with your head before bettig. It depends on you who to believe when betting.

Actually fixing matches are not just in boxing matches, many sports games are manipulated for the benefit of a person. even big games have been involved in fixing scores / fixing matches, especially boxing matches that are not highlighted in television, of course there will be prone of manipulation. If someone offers me a fixing match in boxing game, I'll see who sells it first, whether he is trustworthy or not.

That's stupid, without doubt, and it doesn't make sense either

But stupid is how human mind works in default mode and stupid is what humans do all the time, all of us (so it is kinda natural). Technically (or should I rather say psychologically?), what we are dealing with here is called priming. Priming works unconsciously and it is a real thing even if it is subliminal (you can search Google for a thorough description and explanation of this phenomenon and how it works in real life)

In simple terms, if you are undecided on some matter, the events that immediately precede the moment you make the decision (whatever those might be) will heavily affect it even if you are completely unaware of the connection. So if someone wants you to make a certain decision or just instill doubts about that decision (which seems to be the case here), they can plant the seeds of doubt in this manner and that will in fact cause doubts


If the person is a total stranger (as per OP), the most likely explanation is that you are massively undecided (which can be easily read from the cues your body and face betray) and someone wants to make fun of you by taking your indecision to the next level (apart from manipulating you into making a wrong bet)

Well, probably true. But first, ask the strange person who whispers you, how did he know the result since that is not a fixing game/sports. But if the guy whispering you can't provide such information, better to not listen to him.
Some instances might the person whispering you is your opponent and wanted to gain more on the placing bet you have made. Stick to your plan and decision and you will be fine and don't listen to the strange people that you don't know.

I think that will be a very bad idea. The corruption is so intense and in private that anything you see as a conspiracy might be just reverse psychology. They may try to show that the game is fixed but it is actually fixed but for the opposite outcome and the twist will come at the very end moment of the game. Hence I think if you suspect that the game is fixed it's better to not put any bet on it because it can turn on any side.

Thats right, That unknown person might try to confuse you or trying to making the odds of the underdog low. First things first, why would an unknown person leak confidential info to a random person. If you are trusting the fighter that you are betting why would you bet on the underdog? Fighters mostly have great pride and would not sell their games especially that their reputation is on the line. Think first before changing your hearts favorite.

Not all, every pride has an equivalent price of money, if they are all honest, sports should not be called as corrupt and there's a lot articles I read in the pas that there a certain players or fighters rigging the game for money. If we are a gamble we should not trust automatically decide to bet on our favor, by looking at this possibility of rigging, that will increase our chances of making good selection.

We all know dirty games are also happening with big matches... But as for me, if would to hear that, I would still go on with whom I want to bet. You don't even know who's that guy who whispered to your friend so why bother listening to it. Though it's kinda suspicious but you don't just let anyone tell you who are you going to vote. What if he's just manipulating your friend's mind.

At that point, its kind of difficult to know who will win and which side to be on. Seriously, in some situations its going to be very difficult to believe the random guy especially when every verifiable evidence pointed otherwise. An example is the last fight of Anthony Joshua which he lost, or a match between a team like Real Madrid and one less known club. In that situation, it will take an outright gambler without any form of loyalty to switch sides and to be in a better position having had the experience in the world of gambling and the possibility of fixing, then my suggestion would be to bet on both sides worst case scenario would be a non-profit position but no loss as well.

If the guy is not coming from the camp of the favorites then it's a piece of fake news and you should not follow the advice,  you need to verify if the report is true and there are few who knows this, then you are lucky because you are going to win big because there's going to be an upset that is going to happen.

It's not that we are going to let someone to decide what we should do, it is all about having doubts because of random informations that a random stranger could tell you, and it is not also like we are entrusting to them our money by listening to what they spread. The problem here is our minds, we are just being extra careful not to lose our bets making us to hesitate, one wrong move and you're done.

I also supported what you said because a strange don't worth to be trust cause they are the same as the online crypto traffic group which make false news in other to pump the price of their no potentials holding.

because we shouldn't be easy to trust strangers, regardless of whatever the goal is, i don't think it's a hint or anything about the whisper because in bets we should be confident in the choices we have made and it's not easy to change bets because whispers are a strong attitude to keep going ahead

How come you have been trusted that random guy who whisper you. If the friend of OP had any sense and not listen to that stranger because probably that guy spy from other opponents and might wanted to fall in the trap and when having a bet.

Just focus your own bet, don't be distracted people around you you will not know who are they. And it should have a lookout behind you to prevent a scenario like that.

That could be true, but if he believes that guy was telling right especially if that guy can explain why he whisper us and said we should choose and follow him, I think he can follow the advice from that guy. But maybe that guy only wants to make us stress to select the right team, and that will happens if we don't have reliable info about the teams. Once we are too stressful, I think we need to leave it and don't choose any of the teams because we cannot focus on what we want to select.

It is a random guy and it is hard to decide whether if you will trust it or not. I think it would have been better if you edited your post and told us that if the random guy is telling the truth or not.

I wouldn't listen to it. I have never believed in fixed matches and random people knowing about it. Matches and fights are manipulated but not in a way that everyone should know about it. They would try to keep it under the radar to avoid getting caught and not talk about it with people they don't know.

I would not listen to the suggestion of this random guy.

Why should I believe him? Is he a reputed person or well known in the world of sports?

I'd rather believe my instinct to choose who is likely to win base on my own knowledge of their previous fights and ignore this guy its a waste of time to think about what he said.

In the first place, if it is just a hearsay from the locker room then you can't trust the guy. That is called, a "rumour". Why not stick to your own guts, at the end of the day you are the one ( I mean, your friend) will be the one to get profits at the end or lose at the end. My point is, if he sticked to his plans no one will be blame of.

On the other hand, some said you bet at both players. It can be possible, bet 60% to the player you think will gonna win and 40% to thr other player.

Yeah there’s no concrete evidence about fixed matches but this was been the issue for many times not either someone cheat or others fix the games
You’ve got a point here this must be a round table topic and not for general public
And they would never spoil the situation because this will reverse the scenario they wanna portrayed if the news leaked

Yeah right, I think that is right solution when we are influenced, unless we dare to take the risk. Leaving the match and looking for other matches that can make us confident of the team that competes, so this is same as trading "don't make decisions when there are still doubts".

I will remain in my stance, whatever the outcome.  I will regret more if I lose because I place a bet on someone else's suggestion. because before place a bet I will analyze who will going to win the match fairly. don't let someone mess up our choices.