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Impeachment's polling pretty high among citizens. 44% independents. 78% democrats, 18% republicans. I think she's waiting until the number's above 50% for independents. Mind you, Nixon impeachment at the start was only polled at 18% public support.

Impeachment's polling pretty high among citizens. 44% independents. 78% democrats, 18% republicans. I think she's waiting until the number's above 50% for independents. Mind you, Nixon impeachment at the start was only polled at 18% public support.

Impeachment's polling pretty high among citizens. 44% independents. 78% democrats, 18% republicans. I think she's waiting until the number's above 50% for independents. Mind you, Nixon impeachment at the start was only polled at 18% public support.

I really don't trust polls whatsoever,  I often find that most polls are biased so as to convince people that they either have people backing them but Nancy Pelosi is sure to give Trump power to win the next election and easily as well,  Even Clinton who lied under oath wasn't impeached.  They know that they don't have the vote to carry it out that's why they are stalling maybe they want to destabilize Trump's campaign for re-election.

What is your method of determining the opinion of those 200+ Million Americans?

There are definitely biased polls out there, but Quinnipiac is one of the most respected. 

I really don't trust polls whatsoever,  I often find that most polls are biased so as to convince people that they either have people backing them but Nancy Pelosi is sure to give Trump power to win the next election and easily as well,  Even Clinton who lied under oath wasn't impeached.  They know that they don't have the vote to carry it out that's why they are stalling maybe they want to destabilize Trump's campaign for re-election.

... if you don't believe an average of polls then that's just not fair.

She can't allow an actual vote on impeachment, because that would mean she is bound by house rules allowing Republicans to issue subpoenas, which she knows is the end of the Democrat party as we know it. That's why she is beating a dead horse in "pretending to impeach but not actually impeaching" land. They are boxed in, there is no good move for them now.

At this point I think things have swapped.  Dems are now speeding to get the investigation going asap and GOP are doing whatever they can to slow it down since right before Christmas would be the ideal time for the Democrats to have the Investigation completed.

It's like an Impeachment Tango.

Nope. They can start official proceedings at any time. The GOP can't prevent it from starting they can only prevent it from being completed.

Can we agree that completing the hearing before Christmas would be a substantial political win for the Dems?  I'm not saying impeachment will be successful or even a win for the dems.  Just that having Trump impeached and waiting trial the longer the better for them.

One way they could slow the whole process down is by convincing Pelosi to call for a house vote.  If that were to happen, they would have a bunch of chances to slow the vote down.

As soon as the house investigation is over, I expect them to switch again.  The GOP will want the trial to happen ASAP and the dems will be dragging their feet.

It doesn't matter what they do, the dems are painted into a corner. There is no winning move for them. If they impeach, Republicans can bring their own evidence via subpoenas devastating the dems. If they don't impeach, they piss off their base. If they continue with this impeachment theater they piss everyone off.

Wow.

So I guess it's all over then.  Thanks for letting me know.

Are there any other major historical events coming up that you already know the outcome to?  Would definitely appreciate the heads up.

Like I was saying, they are boxed in...

"Joe And Hunter Biden Could Be Forced To Testify During Trump Impeachment Trial"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/7/joe-biden-hunter-biden-could-be-forced-testify-don/

What do you think should happen to them if they get subpoenaed and refuse?

Charged with obstruction or contempt hopefully imo.  They'd also look guilty as hell right?

It's cute when you think you are being clever. I will answer yes, then you will try to tell me that Trump/Giuliani/the Ukrainian ambassador are refusing a subpoena, and you go "AHA! GOTCHA!". Only one minor problem with your narrative there cupcake. The dems can't issue any legally binding subpoenas until the impeachment process officially begins, but they sure as fuck will pretend to do so, knowing full well obedient lapdogs in the media will report it as fact, and NPCs such as yourself will regurgitate what the idiot box tells them it as if it was fact. Try again.

To: Hunter Biden

Good morning

Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.

The Crown prosecutor of Ukraine met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Biden campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Trump and his dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Ukraine and its government's support for Mr. Biden - helped along by Aras and Emin.

What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.

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Hi,

Thanks I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?

Best,

Hunter

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Seriously.  Imagine what you would think and say if this email was actually about Biden and his son.

Calling everyone a hypocrite is TS's go-to move. It somehow magically eradicates all the evidence of his own hypocrisy. So long as he can still type that word on a keyboard, the irony will be lost on him.

And I am trying to get you to understand that the dems accuse their opponents of the crimes they themselves are guilty of, and of course anyone critical of them would appear hypocritical to people who believe them, that is the point of doing it.

And I"m trying to convince you both sides are guilty of the same thing.  Calling one out but not the other is hypocritical.  


"Omg, Bidens son is doing something shady in another country with the help of his father to make money!"

"Omg, Trumps son is doing something shady in another country with the help of his father to make money!"

They're both true.

Where did I call anyone hypocritical? Please quote.

Thanks for proving my point Democrats love accusing their opponents of what they themselves are guilty of.

PS: I'm not a Democrat.

OK, for starters:

(crickets)

No, of course not. You just support all of their policy positions, share the same sophist tactics, and have Trump Derangement Syndrome. Nice save.

Good, I'm glad you're satisfied with this example and I don't have to compile all the instances of you calling people a hypocrite in the past, that would take weeks.


I support all of their policy positions?? Wow, project much? Of course not. Only others do that. Just like how only other people can be hypocritical. There's no way you could be these things.  ::)

You should have realized you weren't perfect when you got excluded from DT 4 and a half years ago. Your unwavering approach of never admitting error or exhibiting the slightest trace of humility hasn't exactly paid off since then.

But this is obfuscated by the fact that most people don't know that they are reading the words of a bought account. There is no honesty or redeemable qualities in your arguments, you're simply trying to defend borderline evil behavior for your own selfish financial reasons.

Where did I call anyone hypocritical?

Well, now you've called me a hypocrite twice.

 How pathetic and predictable.

What it demonstrates is that you are completely full of shit. Everything you say is covered in fecal material. Just because you can't smell your own shitty breath doesn't mean everybody else can't.

I'm pretty sure I am looking here at both sides of an argument losing the argument.