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i am always fascinated by the FOMOs that keep happening in bitcoin market. earlier this year i created two topics on two different occasions about it the small inital FOMO in first stage (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108231.0) and another FOMO with a bigger leg up (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127244.0).

with the current situation where price has come down below the $10k support line and the fact that a lot of weak hands were flushed out, i am guessing pretty soon after the drama ended we are going to see another FOMO market shape up bringing in a lot of money like a tsunami. this time if the momentum could build up we could see $20k before the end of the year.

what do you think about the size of the upcoming FOMO? can we see a bubble in short term this time or will it be like last time (small just to kick start the rise)?

Could be. That's loosely been my outlook for the past couple months, up to and including this shakeout.

I was initially hoping this dip would end as a wick on the weekly chart, similar to the action in October 2013 or August 2016. Since we haven't seen a classic BTC capitulation bottom yet, I'm wary of getting too bullish. The final shakeout probably hasn't happened yet.

This guy has some interesting projections (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188537.0) of how long this move could take. It could take months and we could see the $5,000s or $6,000s first. So my eyes are still set on $20K but I'm not sure when.

Usually we need some great news about BTC to justify a FOMO trend

This years we already hit 13k and did not trigger something like that, in my opinion near the halving IF BTC breaks 15k USD, we'll probably have a bull run and the FOMO will start again

We already passed through Bakkt and nothing happened, the next big thing probably is the halving

Okay let me ask you this. What was the thing triggered out for btc price to climb up from 3k to 13k on previous months of this year? I guess there was none.
So i basically say that any fundamentals isnt really necessary to trigger out bull run yet it can happen anytime without our notice.We do see countless bullish news
but it didnt affect directly the market movement thats why i dont easily believe on any sentiments neither bear or bull ones.We would be even sure if that halving event would
be a catalyst for next bull run.

The thing is FOMO these days don't have much power in them as people are tooo worried about bitcoin to go down after a successive leg up. This is the reason why we don't see large pumps as we saw back in 2017. Because at that time most of the crowd had never thought of a bearish phase in bitcoin but now everyone thinks that Bitcoin has a reputation of a bubble. Currently i don't see any upcoming FOMO or any type of Bubble.
Really interesting idea seems like I have some work to do tonight. Studying these charts is going to be fun. He has some great set of charts which could take you way back the timeline.

yeah, it was interesting but i usually tend to avoid trying to predict how long a downtime is going to last because most of the times it either ends sooner or later than what was predicted but rarely on point.
i am more curious about what comes next specially when it is a FOMO ::)

What was the great news in early 2017? The rejection of the Winklevoss ETF? :P

Granted, we had the LedgerX approval, Segwit activation, and the announcement of CBOE and CME futures in the summer. But we had already broken the old ATH long before then.

The big news headlines usually start flooding in after the bubble is already in swing. Price has to get there first. We need a new ATH. Until then, the media doesn't care all that much.

Been looking at the order market depth books and seems that people got front run who wanted to buy in the $7500 area. It's very clear on Bitmex that people were either looking to long there or shorts looking to close there. Reason why the $7500 area was important is because it's an important psychological number and it was resistance during the rally and was strong support during the dip afterwards, people were expecting a quadruple type of bottom I guess.

And what happened was price came close, rally happened and now those orders were moved up all of a sudden. This is why when trading crypto you need to be careful of those simple common support and resistance areas since most traders are looking at the same thing. People were expecting $9000 to be support also but look what happened instead.

Isn't a 7500 dollars price range some sort of a Fibonacci level? If you look at recent bitcoin performance then you can see that $9000 wasn't ever gonna hold. When $9500 level was broken then only $7500 was only reasonable support level.

I doubt that a sizable pump due to FOMO will come at any time soon. FOMO only really occurs when the market is excited and sentiment is high, while it is pretty much the opposite of what is going on right now.

In due course though, there will be a resurgence of bullish sentiment.

I just think that it'll be at least until near the halving that it would happen, if BTC does follow its previous cycles.

We have the halvening event and thats usually some hype, I dont count as a big deal myself but I would guess on that for a focus to promote the price up until it occurs.    Thats my memory of it last time, it helped encourage the price before occurring and eventually after falling back it started the next big run up


Short term I see it recovering the pricing around the 13k peak and revising that area until market is more sure of a direction so that will take time imo, the rest of this year easily.

There is also predictions stating that the price could go even lower to $7000. If that happens we can expect the FOMO on the down market. Further by 2020 there will be growth expectation among every user based on halving. This will give growth and, there I believe the FOMO will be around the $18000 margin which I predict based on the previous ath.

I don't consider FOMO to be a good thing and whenever that feeling next hits the markets is not something I care to predict.  Your second question alludes to why it's bad.  It's emotionally driven buying and if traders engage in it and push bitcoin to the bubbling point, they are just as likely to panic sell and crash the price.  FOMO is an acronym that gets bandied about a lot and most of the time I don't believe people really consider what it means.

That is the truth.  There was a lot of it when bitcoin was on its way to $20,000 mainly because it happened so fast.  I guess if bitcoin were to take off like a rocket right now there would be a lot of bandwagoneers buying just because they don't want to miss out on the potential profits.  It happens every time any investment does this and its what creates bubbles.  Once again, this is not a good thing.

Maybe, maybe not.  There's been quite an abundance of selling going on but that could reverse itself easily enough and I strongly think it will.  When it happens is something I couldn't even guess at.

People really have high expectation about halving. Hope it can really happen with FOMO, or maybe FOMO itself can be used to something positive like bitcoin pump. Maybe if people keep have positive perspective about halving, new ATH can be possibly reached.

you mean these couple of weeks or this year? because this year we had a couple of big FOMO cases the biggest one was $2000 rise! comparing this to 2017 is also naive because there is nothing similar and what we had in 2017 was neither pumps nor FOMO. it was a solid rise with a nice rally ending up with a lot of hype and a simple but big bubble. if you want to compare things you have to compare it with 2015 instead when price was (similar to this day) coming out of the bottom.

I checked the fibs and couldn't find any setup where $7500 was a fib level. The closest fob level I could draw would've at around $7260 or so using the $3100 low and $13800 high.

The $9000 area was important because it was support of the declining triangle, so eventually it would of broke but we might of gotten a bounce or two off it before that happened.

The $6000 area is probably the next up if $7500 doesn't hold, however I wouldn't be surprised to have it just cut thru that area like butter as we did on the way up.

We just need one break-out of $500-600 and surely we can see another rally coming. Last time Bitcoin broke from $8000 to $9000, it took only 4 days and 16 market swings to reach $12500.
I think same ripple effect can happen now too. There is no adverse news in market. So just one push and we can see FOMO playing rest of the game and Bitcoin easily going to $13-14K.

OP, no FOMO unless the whale-cumulators start outbidding the plebs by placing higher, and higher buy walls. For now, enjoy the dip. 8)

I do not believe that we are headed for another FOMO event.

This is mainly because for this to occur, the price would have to gradually start increasing and then start climbing quickly, as this is when people would be genuinely afraid of missing out.
At present time, people are scared to invest due to the high volatility and huge decrease in value that we just witnessed. If people start pumping Bitcoin, which may occur due to its low price currently, then I do see the possibility of FOMO occurring and leading to a skyrocketing Bitcoin price.
When this will occur is another question however, and I think we are looking at around a few months. (Hopefully)

Another big FOMOs probably not going to happen again if you're thinking  about the scale of  the 2017 one that boosted us to the current all time high. People have seen enough of how easily they can lose money big time if they blindly ride a FOMO wave. There may still be hype for another run, but we'll probably not see a real big FOMO any time soon.

If enough people believe that it will help increase the odds of another fomo run. It's called fomo for a reason, which means that people have been holding back thinking the price wouldn't go up, but when they see it does they enter the ship.

Did anyone here expect the price to reach $14k this year? No. People were busy discussing scenarios where a retest of the $800 level was an option too. They sold hoping to buy that bottom. Instead, they bought well above their selling price.

Yeah, the market is really building up for another breakout possibly close to $15K. $20K is not happening anytime soon until after the bitcoin halving in May 2020 i guess. Anyway, i don't really see the levels of $5k and $6k happening lol...that would be hell for some folks ;D

$20k is possible  happen by the end of this years, but BTC need very strong momentum to break through $15K before breaking through $20K, but many one said that it is impossible BTC hit $20K this years, only time can prove it, read the analyzes why BTC can't hit $20K this years.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-price-has-7-chance-to-hit-20k-by-end-of-2019-data-claims

We don’t need FOMO, we need real use case, we need people to stop using speculations and FOMO to move the market up in value, this is why we usually do have lots of premature dumping because those that FOMO are the same people that usually would panic sell when they eventually saw that what they thought was going to happen is not what is happening, but I doubt if we have had so much FOMO this year as majority of investors have learnt a lot and they are always calm about their investment now.

I really need a situation whereby we will get to a certain stage that we will be using bitcoin as real currency, and this is what can sustain any value in the market, with FOMO and all that, it may actually become impossible for us to be able to retain any high value.

I like the attitude, but FOMO, the interest, adoption, then HODLING sometimes come together.


Success as a store of value, or an opt-out mechanism from traditional markets could help sustain value too in my opinion.

Whether we need FOMO isn't the question. It's just a natural byproduct of strong bull markets. It's inevitable. If Bitcoin's price is rising, you will always see speculators chasing those gains. And considering Bitcoin's overall fundamentals as a monetary instrument and its very limited supply, it's bound to keep rising.

So learn to love the FOMO. It's not going anywhere.

Generally, every crypto project needs FOMO in this red market, not only btc. Only a new project or big positive Government news can rally btc price up. Thereby causing other projects like ETH, Vechain, LEDU to move up in price too. Just giving my two cent.

Plus learn to buy the dip, and HODL before the FOMO. It's going to start happening next when the plebs don't expect it.

This is a great way of thinking during a bear run but it is not something we can prove in any way at all.

Surely when the weak hands are flushed we can say that bitcoin right now is held by people who actually believe in it (and traders) but that doesn't mean it will continue to go up, first we need to make sure the whales who are trying to make money doesn't sell.

Maybe "weak" hands are gone but the whales are not and they can still buy a million dollar worth short futures and then sell 10 million dollars worth of bitcoin all at once and make a ton of money thanks to leverage as well. Hence we are not certain right now, does the future look brighter for bitcoin? Sure, it does but that doesn't mean it will certainly be better, it just means it is "probably" better.

you forgot about another group, an important and powerful group actually. the traders who sold before the drop or when it was starting to happen and are now waiting for the "signal" which would be any kind of rise above a certain level before these people put that money they got out, back in.

If Bitcoin manage to hit $8k after that $10k stable price then there could be a possibility that it would go down to that support level. If it would hit $5k-$6k then it might be the momentum that we are waiting to happen to finally break another resistance levels. But I'm not sure yet on when would that momentum going to start to see the targeted $20k.

Surely after the drama ends we would see or hear a lot of people regretting on not investing while it was low or something like not holding on to their crypto.
But I agree with you I think after this drop we could see a big batch of money going to enter again and pretty sure those weak hands that sold their bags would try to get it back again.

We can let them regret what they choose because I am sure that we already suggest them to buy bitcoin or the other coins, but they don't want to listen to us. There will be many more of them who will regret it, and there is nothing they can do except accepting that they cannot buy bitcoin at that time because bitcoin price already increases so high. But they still can buy any coins which don't have a high price, and they will need to wait for a long time to see the price will increase. I think the market now still trying to rise, although it's not too fast. And I think people are still coming to the market and buying bitcoin and the other coin before all of the price increase higher.

Exactly there could be some possibilities that those people who made a wrong move could buy back bitcoin, and hold it back again. For sure, upon the recovery point of bitcoin price will suddenly have another increasing trend. There's no certain time allocated, but it was already an history.

and sure enough, it took about 25 days and a final 10% drop down to $7200 to kick start the FOMO. and this was a big one too. from $7200 up to $10300 is a $3100 or 43% FOMO rise and it was nearly the same thing i was expecting. nearly because i was expecting the price to stay above $10k but instead it came to $9k level again.
i am now curious to see how this follows up in the coming days.

for now the fascinating FOMO is visible on the charts:
https://i.imgur.com/SgePtmH.jpg