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Title: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 02, 2019, 07:41:58 AM
Dropbox

Recently, there has been change in the method of storage which has gained massive attraction due to its convenience and efficiency: users can access the data they stored in the cloud from anywhere and at any time with access to the internet. One prominent application used in this regard is "Dropbox". For the purpose of this blog, to establish the necessity of Blockchain technology in the storage sector.   

How it works

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When users upload their data to the cloud, it will first arrive at the master control data server, which serves as the brain of the system. Data will then be transmitted to various data centers and multiple copies of data will be made in case one copy gets destroyed. Once the data is uploaded, the safety of them will be completely depended on the safety of the data centers. If data centers got damaged due to the natural disaster or human mistake, data may completely be erased. Google has once encountered this issue. In 2015, its data center located in Belgium was struck by lightning four times and caused permanent data loss.
Besides the concerns regarding data safety, centralization and lack of data encryption are other issues existed in modern cloud storage systems. Most cloud storage services only provide data encryption during transmission using SSL/TLS encryption mechanism, which is vulnerable to attack. In addition, due to centralization, the server administrators also have direct access to data stored on the server. Even though most companies have strict policies on protecting users’ privacy, as long as human beings are involved, there is a risk on the data breach.

This indicates there are "privacy and security issues associated with using centralized cloud storage.
If not checked, the essence of using cloud storage is jeopardized.


DxBox

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DxBox is a demo application builds on top of DxChain Testnet v0.3.6. It serves as an interface which simplifies the process for users on file uploading and downloading. The application uses the client-provider model for data transferring, where the client is a node that uses DX Token, the DxChain cryptocurrency, for file storage, file uploading, and file downloading. Provider, on the other hand, is a node that provides storage services with disk space to get profits rewarded by the client. To become a provider, the node must make an announcement, which will be added to the blockchain. This is further explained in the article found
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https://blog.dxchain.com/dxbox-blockchain-based-web-application-for-secure-data-storage/ (https://blog.dxchain.com/dxbox-blockchain-based-web-application-for-secure-data-storage/)


Reading further from the above link, it explains plainly how Dxbox as a blockchain solution can be a complete solution to the inherent issues of Dropbox being a centralized form of storage service. Could cloud service be more better than this?


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 02, 2019, 08:26:33 AM
Using Blockchain technology to store data is not the first time. It is much safer to store data in the blockchain. Then it is very likely that they will not disappear. And using the disk space of other users will only increase this probability. You don't have to worry about safety at all.

Absolutely right. I have almost same mindset as this. Knowing fully that Blockchain is secure in data handling makes it soothing to reckon with using the technology to solve cloud storage issue.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: vanya.pronin.1983 on October 02, 2019, 08:48:16 AM
Dropbox is an awesome tool, but if there is another way of storing data with help of blockchain technology, it brings the security on the whole new level. The only question is how trustworthy the devs are, because the amount of scammers, makes me suspicious.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: NeuroticFish on October 02, 2019, 08:56:07 AM
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DxBox is a demo application builds on top of DxChain Testnet v0.3.6. It serves as an interface which simplifies the process for users on file uploading and downloading. The application uses the client-provider model for data transferring, where the client is a node that uses DX Token, the DxChain cryptocurrency, for file storage, file uploading, and file downloading. Provider, on the other hand, is a node that provides storage services with disk space to get profits rewarded by the client. To become a provider, the node must make an announcement, which will be added to the blockchain.

First of all, it's not clear what happens when one (or 1000 !) providers leave the network (temporarily or forever). Is there a way to ensure that users' files don't get corrupted or missing?
Second: Dropbox is quite well integrated in tools. From "camera uploads" that works (while some competitors still have issues) to applications that can link with Dropbox account for sync... I think that maybe Google Drive can compete with that, at least on Android. Even if first problem is handles well, there's still a lot of work before DxBox will have a chance against Dropbox.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: ansi on October 02, 2019, 03:35:03 PM
There i a huge misunderstanding of the use of the Blockchain technology in the Cloud Industry.
Using Blockchain technology in this domain make it more private & secure not decentralized as many may understand.

I started to hate this Decentralization bullshit niche in very crypto project out there & using them randomly just to say " decentralized " whil it centralize like any other non -blockchained buisness or project.

The server are till CENTRALIZED in both DropBox & DxBox, the only difference is one is more safer than the other, which is the blockchained one, that's all. YES blockchained DxBox is more secure than DropBow for sure, i'll give you that. thanks to blockchain technology which is more powerful & stronger than regular encryption so far.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: plast555 on October 02, 2019, 04:38:45 PM
Using Blockchain technology to store data is not the first time. It is much safer to store data in the blockchain. Then it is very likely that they will not disappear. And using the disk space of other users will only increase this probability. You don't have to worry about safety at all.

Yes, this is not new news, but it is good news. This kind of news is quite important for mass adaptation. I'm not using any blockchain-based cloud storage for now. Because I'm not sure if they're working well. I've seen a few projects about it, but I want to know if they're successful in practice.

Could you give a little more information about it? I think a project called Siacoin was providing cloud storage services. Have you ever used this kind of product before?


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: Ucy on October 02, 2019, 05:34:00 PM
Using Blockchain technology to store data is not the first time. It is much safer to store data in the blockchain. Then it is very likely that they will not disappear. And using the disk space of other users will only increase this probability. You don't have to worry about safety at all.
It is much safer and less efficient to store that much data on Blockchain. I think other decentralized/distributed systems will work OK for this purpose. Hopefully in the future everyone participating in storing decentralized data will be able to store as much as they can efficiently and get rewarded accordingly/proportionally




Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: Eugenar on October 02, 2019, 11:42:42 PM
Using Blockchain technology to store data is not the first time. It is much safer to store data in the blockchain. Then it is very likely that they will not disappear. And using the disk space of other users will only increase this probability. You don't have to worry about safety at all.

If the data server that holds your important data shuts down, no matter if they are doing a RAID with their drives on cloud that is hotswappable, there's no assurance that your files can be safe. It is still good to use your own storage, especially in storing very personal data or files rather than to trust everything to the cloud. Their generators might be enough for some time of power shortage, but a week of massive shortage will be crucial.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: Strongkored on October 03, 2019, 03:16:49 AM
Dropbox and Google Drive are still the first choice for users to store their data in cloud, privacy and security are still the main issues of all cloud storage, but so far it is still running well.

Cloud storage based Blockchain technology can be alternative to use but it's still too early that this will replace centralized cloud storage like Dropbox, because what is called decentralization there are still some centralized parts, whether its use will be easy like centralized Cloud Storage.

Just Like DEX the problem is the speed, it could be that speed will be also be a problem in Cloud Storage based Blockchain.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: tsaroz on October 03, 2019, 03:39:11 AM
This is of course not the first one but the cloud storage future is decentralized. There are few things that are keeping people from being a customer or a storage provider of the services. Promotion is one of them. No one would jump into any new tech unless they feel safe about it. For that, there should be some free options for the customers and storage providers too should volunteer with a low reward.
As mentioned, speed and GUI are the next thing. The speed is largely depended on the technology used by the blockchain to store the data, the number of devices it's stored to. All of the decentralized cloud should first come to one place to share their resources to build an ecosystem while GUI would be specific to the project. Just like torrents and torrent reference sites.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 03, 2019, 07:36:18 AM
Dropbox is an awesome tool, but if there is another way of storing data with help of blockchain technology, it brings the security on the whole new level. The only question is how trustworthy the devs are, because the amount of scammers, makes me suspicious.


Haha, we should be more concerned about the centralized side where the admins can meddle with user data however they wish. And the Devs also could code what they like since they have power to and undo. But in the case of Blockchain technology, we all aware of the strength of Blockchain in term of security and privacy control. a lot of the projects are open source, so any form of code manipulation can be detected very fast. But, in reality, the latter is far secure compared to the former.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 03, 2019, 07:42:09 AM
There i a huge misunderstanding of the use of the Blockchain technology in the Cloud Industry.
Using Blockchain technology in this domain make it more private & secure not decentralized as many may understand.

I started to hate this Decentralization bullshit niche in very crypto project out there & using them randomly just to say " decentralized " whil it centralize like any other non -blockchained buisness or project.

The server are till CENTRALIZED in both DropBox & DxBox, the only difference is one is more safer than the other, which is the blockchained one, that's all. YES blockchained DxBox is more secure than DropBow for sure, i'll give you that. thanks to blockchain technology which is more powerful & stronger than regular encryption so far.

This is thoughtful. But do you think it is possible for the server to be decentralized? i.e, located somewhere not within the custody of any of the parties in the network? I also think we need to segregate decentralization from actual blockchain protocol even though one leads to the other.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 03, 2019, 07:58:45 AM
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DxBox is a demo application builds on top of DxChain Testnet v0.3.6. It serves as an interface which simplifies the process for users on file uploading and downloading. The application uses the client-provider model for data transferring, where the client is a node that uses DX Token, the DxChain cryptocurrency, for file storage, file uploading, and file downloading. Provider, on the other hand, is a node that provides storage services with disk space to get profits rewarded by the client. To become a provider, the node must make an announcement, which will be added to the blockchain.

First of all, it's not clear what happens when one (or 1000 !) providers leave the network (temporarily or forever). Is there a way to ensure that users' files don't get corrupted or missing?
Second: Dropbox is quite well integrated in tools. From "camera uploads" that works (while some competitors still have issues) to applications that can link with Dropbox account for sync... I think that maybe Google Drive can compete with that, at least on Android. Even if first problem is handles well, there's still a lot of work before DxBox will have a chance against Dropbox.

The first part of your question sounds a bit technical and requires a tech person perhaps the dev to provide actual answer. I have get in touch with the team and i hope you get response asap. It is true there is a lot of work for DxBox since it is still in developing stage. I believe if BxBox can have the right tools as you stated here, it would be the perfect solution to cloud storage problems.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 03, 2019, 08:10:17 AM
This is of course not the first one but the cloud storage future is decentralized. There are few things that are keeping people from being a customer or a storage provider of the services. Promotion is one of them. No one would jump into any new tech unless they feel safe about it. For that, there should be some free options for the customers and storage providers too should volunteer with a low reward.
As mentioned, speed and GUI are the next thing. The speed is largely depended on the technology used by the blockchain to store the data, the number of devices it's stored to. All of the decentralized cloud should first come to one place to share their resources to build an ecosystem while GUI would be specific to the project. Just like torrents and torrent reference sites.

The promotional part cannot be neglected for sure. I am sure the Dxchain team has a good plan for it. Also, the GUI will have one of the best ever. Underlying architecture as explained in the WP and https://blog.dxchain.com/dxbox-blockchain-based-web-application-for-secure-data-storage/ (https://blog.dxchain.com/dxbox-blockchain-based-web-application-for-secure-data-storage/) is quite robust to bring the speed to light.

Here i found the resource answers almost all the questions. https://dxchainapidoc.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html (https://dxchainapidoc.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html)


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 03, 2019, 08:16:00 AM
Dropbox and Google Drive are still the first choice for users to store their data in cloud, privacy and security are still the main issues of all cloud storage, but so far it is still running well.

Cloud storage based Blockchain technology can be alternative to use but it's still too early that this will replace centralized cloud storage like Dropbox, because what is called decentralization there are still some centralized parts, whether its use will be easy like centralized Cloud Storage.

Just Like DEX the problem is the speed, it could be that speed will be also be a problem in Cloud Storage based Blockchain.

Real development takes time though but it will surely start from somewhere. I want to understand well what you meant by the problem of DEX is the speed. cos i think DEX is fast in execution of trade just as CEX could. But the problem is the availability of buy order to match the available sell order but the execution speed is the main subject.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 03, 2019, 08:20:34 AM
Using Blockchain technology to store data is not the first time. It is much safer to store data in the blockchain. Then it is very likely that they will not disappear. And using the disk space of other users will only increase this probability. You don't have to worry about safety at all.

If the data server that holds your important data shuts down, no matter if they are doing a RAID with their drives on cloud that is hotswappable, there's no assurance that your files can be safe. It is still good to use your own storage, especially in storing very personal data or files rather than to trust everything to the cloud. Their generators might be enough for some time of power shortage, but a week of massive shortage will be crucial.

I make some good thoughts here. One thing is common to both the kinds of cloud storage which is the existence of server and located somewhere. I think someday, we will get to advanced state where every user will operate a self server. That would be the peak of decentralization.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 03, 2019, 08:24:21 AM
Using Blockchain technology to store data is not the first time. It is much safer to store data in the blockchain. Then it is very likely that they will not disappear. And using the disk space of other users will only increase this probability. You don't have to worry about safety at all.
It is much safer and less efficient to store that much data on Blockchain. I think other decentralized/distributed systems will work OK for this purpose. Hopefully in the future everyone participating in storing decentralized data will be able to store as much as they can efficiently and get rewarded accordingly/proportionally




That's correct. The beneficial part of using blockchain for cloud storage service aside of the security is the reward part in cryptocurrency where every parties involved in the storage chain can be rewarded for their time.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 05, 2019, 03:33:43 AM
Dropbox is an awesome tool, but if there is another way of storing data with help of blockchain technology, it brings the security on the whole new level. The only question is how trustworthy the devs are, because the amount of scammers, makes me suspicious.

I think that is where a little research is needed.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 05, 2019, 03:38:24 AM
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DxBox is a demo application builds on top of DxChain Testnet v0.3.6. It serves as an interface which simplifies the process for users on file uploading and downloading. The application uses the client-provider model for data transferring, where the client is a node that uses DX Token, the DxChain cryptocurrency, for file storage, file uploading, and file downloading. Provider, on the other hand, is a node that provides storage services with disk space to get profits rewarded by the client. To become a provider, the node must make an announcement, which will be added to the blockchain.

First of all, it's not clear what happens when one (or 1000 !) providers leave the network (temporarily or forever). Is there a way to ensure that users' files don't get corrupted or missing?
Second: Dropbox is quite well integrated in tools. From "camera uploads" that works (while some competitors still have issues) to applications that can link with Dropbox account for sync... I think that maybe Google Drive can compete with that, at least on Android. Even if first problem is handles well, there's still a lot of work before DxBox will have a chance against Dropbox.


Have a look at this.
Due to the use of erasure coding mechanism, only part of data pieces are needed to recover the original file. Therefore, in case there are some storage hosts left the network, you can still recover your file using the rest of data pieces. For the detailed explanation, you can take a look at the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VERYY-LeUo&t=287s


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: AltcoinAuthority on October 05, 2019, 05:25:41 AM
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DxBox is a demo application builds on top of DxChain Testnet v0.3.6. It serves as an interface which simplifies the process for users on file uploading and downloading. The application uses the client-provider model for data transferring, where the client is a node that uses DX Token, the DxChain cryptocurrency, for file storage, file uploading, and file downloading. Provider, on the other hand, is a node that provides storage services with disk space to get profits rewarded by the client. To become a provider, the node must make an announcement, which will be added to the blockchain.

First of all, it's not clear what happens when one (or 1000 !) providers leave the network (temporarily or forever). Is there a way to ensure that users' files don't get corrupted or missing?
Second: Dropbox is quite well integrated in tools. From "camera uploads" that works (while some competitors still have issues) to applications that can link with Dropbox account for sync... I think that maybe Google Drive can compete with that, at least on Android. Even if first problem is handles well, there's still a lot of work before DxBox will have a chance against Dropbox.


Have a look at this.
Due to the use of erasure coding mechanism, only part of data pieces are needed to recover the original file. Therefore, in case there are some storage hosts left the network, you can still recover your file using the rest of data pieces. For the detailed explanation, you can take a look at the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VERYY-LeUo&t=287s
What's the point of that.

Coins need software not more coins.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: hdtqisg on October 05, 2019, 05:56:40 AM
Blockchain technology to store data have been used for a long time, but currently not effective! It needs a major change to be user friendly


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: blckhawk on October 05, 2019, 06:08:46 AM
So what it means is that traditional cloud storage are just for storage of data, with a centralized server with hard disks to store your data. In DxBox, the storage is not on a central server, rather like blockchain, it is distributed through nodes (computers) that are part of the network. It means that the hard drives used are those of like the miners who generate blocks for the blockchain, only this time knstead of transactions, it stores your data. That sounds unsecure, but there's cryptography for a purpose.

The advantage I can see in this scenario is that the server would most likely not be down since all cloud files are stored in every node. However, speed could be affected since not all nodes use the same hard drive and internet connection.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: Willitivity on October 05, 2019, 07:56:30 AM
Being able to have some experience with Dropbox, their services are cool and simply does what it says. And they have really come a long way in providing cloud based storage services. Unfortunately, Blockchain cloud storage is pretty cool but since it has not gained much traction, not so many people know about it.
I know decentralised system stand out for their security and anonymousity, but in this case is the data not out there in the open Blockchain?


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: NeuroticFish on October 05, 2019, 04:17:14 PM
Have a look at this.
Due to the use of erasure coding mechanism, only part of data pieces are needed to recover the original file. Therefore, in case there are some storage hosts left the network, you can still recover your file using the rest of data pieces. For the detailed explanation, you can take a look at the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VERYY-LeUo&t=287s

Wow, thanks. It's more complicated than I thought and I don't understand all the details, but it sounds pretty good.
At least from what I understood, on a normal rate of storage entering and leaving the network, the files are pretty safe. It's not perfect, but close.. at least according to what they say.
I hope that the time will certify this. For now it sounds good. Good luck!


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 06, 2019, 02:17:41 PM
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DxBox is a demo application builds on top of DxChain Testnet v0.3.6. It serves as an interface which simplifies the process for users on file uploading and downloading. The application uses the client-provider model for data transferring, where the client is a node that uses DX Token, the DxChain cryptocurrency, for file storage, file uploading, and file downloading. Provider, on the other hand, is a node that provides storage services with disk space to get profits rewarded by the client. To become a provider, the node must make an announcement, which will be added to the blockchain.

First of all, it's not clear what happens when one (or 1000 !) providers leave the network (temporarily or forever). Is there a way to ensure that users' files don't get corrupted or missing?
Second: Dropbox is quite well integrated in tools. From "camera uploads" that works (while some competitors still have issues) to applications that can link with Dropbox account for sync... I think that maybe Google Drive can compete with that, at least on Android. Even if first problem is handles well, there's still a lot of work before DxBox will have a chance against Dropbox.


Have a look at this.
Due to the use of erasure coding mechanism, only part of data pieces are needed to recover the original file. Therefore, in case there are some storage hosts left the network, you can still recover your file using the rest of data pieces. For the detailed explanation, you can take a look at the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VERYY-LeUo&t=287s
What's the point of that.

Coins need software not more coins.

We are talking about software here not more coins.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 06, 2019, 02:19:16 PM
Have a look at this.
Due to the use of erasure coding mechanism, only part of data pieces are needed to recover the original file. Therefore, in case there are some storage hosts left the network, you can still recover your file using the rest of data pieces. For the detailed explanation, you can take a look at the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VERYY-LeUo&t=287s

Wow, thanks. It's more complicated than I thought and I don't understand all the details, but it sounds pretty good.
At least from what I understood, on a normal rate of storage entering and leaving the network, the files are pretty safe. It's not perfect, but close.. at least according to what they say.
I hope that the time will certify this. For now it sounds good. Good luck!

Awesome one from you. Thanks a bunch.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 06, 2019, 02:25:50 PM
Being able to have some experience with Dropbox, their services are cool and simply does what it says. And they have really come a long way in providing cloud based storage services. Unfortunately, Blockchain cloud storage is pretty cool but since it has not gained much traction, not so many people know about it.
I know decentralised system stand out for their security and anonymousity, but in this case is the data not out there in the open Blockchain?

Thanks for your comment. Perhaps DxBox is an initiative that is work-in-progress. The team is still on its development. Decentralization isn't for anonymity since everything is visible in the open blockchain just as Godx -the Dxchain project is an open source to buttress your last statement. information is available on Dxchain Blog at https://blog.dxchain.com (https://blog.dxchain.com)


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 06, 2019, 02:33:28 PM
So what it means is that traditional cloud storage are just for storage of data, with a centralized server with hard disks to store your data. In DxBox, the storage is not on a central server, rather like blockchain, it is distributed through nodes (computers) that are part of the network. It means that the hard drives used are those of like the miners who generate blocks for the blockchain, only this time knstead of transactions, it stores your data. That sounds unsecure, but there's cryptography for a purpose.

The advantage I can see in this scenario is that the server would most likely not be down since all cloud files are stored in every node. However, speed could be affected since not all nodes use the same hard drive and internet connection.

You seem to have good understanding of how blockchain works relative to the purpose it is meant for. But have you consider the different protocol algorithm used in securing the data, achieving consensus etc? These are what formed the strength and security part of the network.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: Wintersoldier on October 07, 2019, 03:27:18 AM
Using Blockchain technology to store data is not the first time. It is much safer to store data in the blockchain. Then it is very likely that they will not disappear. And using the disk space of other users will only increase this probability. You don't have to worry about safety at all.

Blockchain as storage such as what Dropbox is now incorporating is a good idea. I am just worried about the security of our files since allot of nodes might be a candidate to store our data, the invention of the quantum computers and its implementation nowadays might be threat to the security of our files, I am worried that someday, these computers might decrypt and access the vulnerability of the blockchain based cloud storage.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: jmigdlc99 on October 07, 2019, 03:39:42 AM
I'd trust my files with dropbox more. This DxBox is too new a company and quite risky if you ask me.

When it comes to privacy and personal files, there is never too much caution to be had. There have been much more reputable companies out there that have been longer in the online storage service game. I'd suggest taking a look at Siacoin for example, or StorJ.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 18, 2019, 10:47:58 AM
Blockchain technology to store data have been used for a long time, but currently not effective! It needs a major change to be user friendly


Like what changes do you think it actually need to attract more adoption?


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: bobelr on October 18, 2019, 10:49:32 AM
I'd trust my files with dropbox more. This DxBox is too new a company and quite risky if you ask me.

When it comes to privacy and personal files, there is never too much caution to be had. There have been much more reputable companies out there that have been longer in the online storage service game. I'd suggest taking a look at Siacoin for example, or StorJ.

DropBox is in its development stage right now. Hopefully, it will get to that point where it will be more developed as dropbox.


Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on October 18, 2019, 10:56:12 AM
Blockchain technology to store data have been used for a long time, but currently not effective! It needs a major change to be user friendly
Like what changes do you think it actually need to attract more adoption?
I don't think that there should be major changes with dropbox. I don't use it all the time but I've used it before with my projects to store data that I need and my teammates too for which I find it very useful.

User friendly? I find it user friendly already so I don't understand on what part of it should be user friendly.



Title: Re: Dropbox -modern cloud storage or DxBox -Blockchain-based cloud storage solution?
Post by: Diamond_Darrell on July 19, 2020, 08:54:28 PM
Dropbox

Recently, there has been change in the method of storage which has gained massive attraction due to its convenience and efficiency: users can access the data they stored in the cloud from anywhere and at any time with access to the internet. One prominent application used in this regard is "Dropbox". For the purpose of this blog, to establish the necessity of Blockchain technology in the storage sector.   

How it works

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When users upload their data to the cloud, it will first arrive at the master control data server, which serves as the brain of the system. Data will then be transmitted to various data centers and multiple copies of data will be made in case one copy gets destroyed. Once the data is uploaded, the safety of them will be completely depended on the safety of the data centers. If data centers got damaged due to the natural disaster or human mistake, data may completely be erased. Google has once encountered this issue. In 2015, its data center located in Belgium was struck by lightning four times and caused permanent data loss.
Besides the concerns regarding data safety, centralization and lack of data encryption are other issues existed in modern cloud storage systems. Most cloud storage services only provide data encryption during transmission using SSL/TLS encryption mechanism, which is vulnerable to attack. In addition, due to centralization, the server administrators also have direct access to data stored on the server. Even though most companies have strict policies on protecting users’ privacy, as long as human beings are involved, there is a risk on the data breach.

This indicates there are "privacy and security issues associated with using centralized cloud storage.
If not checked, the essence of using cloud storage is jeopardized.


DxBox

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DxBox is a demo application builds on top of DxChain Testnet v0.3.6. It serves as an interface which simplifies the process for users on file uploading and downloading. The application uses the client-provider model for data transferring, where the client is a node that uses DX Token, the DxChain cryptocurrency, for file storage, file uploading, and file downloading. Provider, on the other hand, is a node that provides storage services with disk space to get profits rewarded by the client. To become a provider, the node must make an announcement, which will be added to the blockchain. This is further explained in the article found
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https://blog.dxchain.com/dxbox-blockchain-based-web-application-for-secure-data-storage/ (https://blog.dxchain.com/dxbox-blockchain-based-web-application-for-secure-data-storage/)


Reading further from the above link, it explains plainly how Dxbox as a blockchain solution can be a complete solution to the inherent issues of Dropbox being a centralized form of storage service. Could cloud service be more better than this?
There is a good rule of life - if two know, everyone knows. In the case of shell data stores, this principle also works