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Mycro management, team and manager, dishonest, cheating, corruption, breaking promises, i declare mycro the greatest gift of fraud.

Flag support.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=796

From the start of the agreement: (MYO token.
3.5% (3,500,000 MYO) will be assigned to the Bounty Pool).

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But after the bounty ran for about 52 weeks, the rules were changed with KYC within three days, this was clearly a fraud, for their benefit.

https://zizihub.com/adb7.jpg

Formulir KYC: https://forms.gle/8ZmJqD9CqNNZFWMM6

🔥[BOUNTY][ICO][MYO]🔥MYCRO JOBS - SIMPLY GETTING THE JOB DONE🔥 (https://steemit.com/todaybounty/@vlak/bounty-ico-myo-mycro-jobs-simply-getting-the-job-done)

MYO token agreement given to participants as much as (3.5% (3,500,000 MYO).

Please check participation here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1paUtIQV2oQaP4CP_e024YUY6KfnIITOwV6Ad4WuUiwA/edit#gid=602533092

translation and moderation.
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Total: MYO 46.392

Campaign bonus
https://zizihub.com/938c.jpg
Total: MYO 75.000

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If calculated from spreadsheets, half of the agreement they cut, this also applies to other social campaigns, Twitter, signatures, faecebooks etc.


And now management, the company, the MYCRO prize team, cut each MYO campaign token into two, to be stolen to a partial mycro company and given to part participants, this is clearly cheating.

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Topik: 🔥 [BOUNTY] [IEO] [MYO] MYCRO JOBS PROGRAM BOUNTY (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5027348.0)

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http://archive.is/6aeaG

Mycro's main telegram:
1. https://t.me/mycrojobs
2. https://t.me/simplemedikom

This, obviously a fraud, I want an opinion about the MYCRO JOBS BOUNTY PROGRAM, what the manager deserves, red paint.

Manager:
1. HavucHamdi# (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1894757)

I think someone participating in the campaign can start a type 3 flag as an agreement about the total number of bounty tokens to be paid was made earlier and broken by the bounty manager or at most the team. Also, no instructions about the requirements of the KYC were given before had, so that participants could decide before joining the campaign according to there convince, the sudden change does smells fishy. >:(

I am not a participant in their bounty program, but usually every time there is a change in allocations or rules the manager and the team will announce it to everyone.
If the team and the manager don't do it, then they deserve the consequences.  I think.

Yes, i think so too. Flag 3, from the beginning there was no KYC agreement, even worse, KYC, had to take a link via telegram, not published in the topic mycro bounty,

I think only a few participants saw the telegram and got the KYC link.

This is different from other prizes, they try to fool all MYO tokens, and per kyc slice makes no sense, burdening the participants.

For reference, here is the archived bounty thread https://archive.fo/6aeaG
Note that this campaign started with a No KYC rule

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I've been watching their telegram and I can share the reason for some of the points here.

1. The reduction in bounty pool was due to the fact that they ended their token sale early because of the market condition (according to them).



2. The new bounty pool was supposedly around 1.2 Millio MYO based on the new token metrics but for some reason the bounty manager slashed it again into almost half. According to the team on telegram, they will take over the spreadsheet and make the necessary adjustment after the KYC.  

To my knowledge 75% of the total supply was burned, the % for the Bounty campaign remained the same.

Here the tokenomics before and after the burn:

https://i.imgur.com/r0jmAcL.jpg
[source: https://www.mycrojobs.io/blog/mycros-new-token-metrics]

For the subsequently introduced KYC I also wanted to create a scam-accusation.

First, it was claimed that the German law requires KYC. Which, by the way, is complete nonsense.
["We are a German company and have to abide the law"]

https://i.imgur.com/Gz7ttoN.jpg
[source: https://t.me/mycrojobsbounty/15539]

Thereupon I wanted them to present the legal text to me, which specifies a KYC procedure for the distribution of a utility token to bounty participants.
Unfortunately the Bounty Manager has deleted our private chat history (and I did not export the history before  :()

Now they say: Their legal department wants KYC and "to ensure that no MYO end up with fraudsters"
Shouldn't that be the job of a bounty manager?

https://i.imgur.com/YowhuLt.jpg
[source: https://t.me/mycrojobs/34169]

I took part in the signature campaign and 'No KYC' was a decisive reason for me to participate in the campaign at all.

But that's not all.
The team always talked about using a reputable KYC provider and that our sensitive data is in good hands. (see screenshot above)
and now they' re giving us a Google form?

Seriously, which reputable KYC provider collects the data via a Google form?

Edit:
And according to the team, tokens that would have been assigned to a scammer will not be distributed amongst all legit participants.
https://i.imgur.com/gbfw869.jpg

Looks to me like they're just introducing KYC to pay less.

This is an good example of what I said earlier, many ( most of the ) participants would have joined the campaign by taking into consideration there own anonymity, and changing such an based rule of "NO KYC" to "KYC REQUIRED" is not a acceptable change.



No one legitimate would do this, its straight away an attempt of grabbing people's personal info by giving them a fake sense of security. Using google form is just out of the box and of course risky !

I once asked the team about the specific legal ground for the KYC but never got a response. Asking the team again now would also be useless and might get you banned because they want the chat to be free of bounty discussion.

That bounty manager banned me a long time ago for questioning the longevity of the campaign  ;D

EDIT:
It looks like it. I was expecting them to reallocate tokens and pay more to legit participants until I saw your conversation with them.

Only 3 days to pass KYC - they are insane. That is totally scam move. Their telegram channel is not with negative posts after KYC was introduced. I think that means only few people read pinned message and lots of participants soon will be disappointed/angry that they wont get anything.

And it is obviously a scam, because after kyc procedure they wont recalculate rewards.

I did not really pay attention to this. apparently quite a lot of cheating they did.
FYI - I saw the telegram channel and they have started KYC since September 30th, I think this is the last day to do KYC, and I think there are enough people who have done KYC to get their rewards.

it's quite sad considering this is a bounty that ran for 1 year. I'm sure many are willing to do KYC to get their rewards even though the allocation is cut so big.

There's another Mycro scam accusation raised almost two weeks ago but the OP must have decided to drop it already.


Too many shady activities done by this team based on what's being presented here. Where will the tokens originally computed for supposed cheaters go? It won't go the the participants who will pass KYC so are they going to be burned?

Yeah, aundroid brought it up in the German section and the shitcoin devs are obviously misinformed or clearly lying to scam their bounty participants.  ::)

There is no law in Germany that KYC is enforced for tiny amounts of shitcoins and their response is so poor that they can't show the law and instead deleting evidence for their scam. I did some research (round about 15 minutes) and found obvious proof that the "lawyers" are completely misinformed (or not existing):

Source: Regierungsplan: Deutsche sollen Gold nur noch bis 2000 Euro anonym bekommen (https://www.focus.de/finanzen/boerse/gold/reicht-nicht-mal-fuer-50-gramm-schon-ab-januar-deutsche-sollen-gold-nur-noch-bis-2000-euro-anonym-bekommen_id_10916613.html)

Translation:




So in fact, right now it's even allowed to buy gold (and other mentioned goods) anonymously up to 10,000€ without KYC in Germany and in 2020 the limits will go down to 2,000€ for purchases without KYC. Conclusion: German law only requires KYC for large amounts of money.
I see a clear intention of MYCRO team to scam bounty participants here.

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I would like to support your flag but I don't know how the bounty manager is related to the scammers. If he's part of the team and not hired independently he deserves a tag and a scammer flag. Is it known in which way he's related to the team?

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Or he's fed up from all the scammers and doesn't want to waste more time with it catching them.  :D

HavucHamdi #, a team / member of Thomas Miller, @Thomas Miller, he is a mycro manager, and a derector of the mycro company.

I once contacted him.
A few weeks ago.
But:
Unfortunately it did not go smoothly, Thomas, it ran away.

My conversation.

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Havuc Hamdi #, an independent manager, who manages the mycro bounty, indicated by Thomas.
And he is active 3 weeks to renew the bounty that he manages.

Logic, Where there is an active manager every three weeks in managing the campaign.
Except, it's an insider / close person.

This is one of the problems always experienced by most bounty hunters after doing some really long campaigns with no assurance of payment at all and the most unfortunate they will changed the rules requires KYC and modify the reward on the final day, what a shame to this project owners this bounty managers and project owners who are responsible to pay hunters must be tagged/flagged so that in the future hunters will avoid them and to all hunters out there I hope this will be a lesson for all of us dont ever join campaigns managed by random accounts in this forum select campaigns managed by experienced and trusted bounty managers and to all BM please escrow the bounty tokens first before starting a campaign for transparency and to avoid cheating its your responsibility afterall.

Sadly, the KYC form is aldeady closed. It was open in the middle of a day September 30, and got closed October 2, 22:20. Less than 3 days...

Were you part of the campaign?

They were rushing to meet the set date for distribution which was kind of funny to me when the campaign ran for 51 weeks. They are ignoring the community now after they got what they wanted. I even asked them to allow submission for at least 10 days. No response from them as usual.

Yep, and we've seen that before.  Adding a KYC requirement right at the end, along with a rule about not faking documents is probably done by the devs (or campaign manager) to shake out some of the participants and thus keep more of the money for themselves.  I have no issue with KYC in bounties per se, but they need to state that it's required up front when the bounty starts. 

They know how big a deal it is for people in the crypto community and that a lot of participants can't or won't give up their dox--you can't trust an ICO team not to sell those dox to even shadier folks on the darkweb.

Of course they are.  That's always the final step of the scam, suppressing dissent or just not acknowledging the people who they made promises to and who helped them advertise their scam project.  It never changes.

Apparently, they were the Mycro team that was more suspicious than I thought, all the participants wanted to break the neck of the Mycro team, with KYC already closed, before the time came.

What's worse, my Telegram was also blocked by the Mycro team, so that I was cut off from communication with them. The most ridiculous Mycro company that exists today.

https://i.imgur.com/EfWuyTz.jpg

Is there a Mycro team here, a bitcointalk account, I challenge you, I invite you here.
Don't be like: coward, loser, con artist.

I'm not fighting for me, it's for the sake of the crowd, see people who promote your silly ads in 52 weeks without the rewards they get.

I havent participates in campaign, but saved it to favourites and checked their social media peofiles from time to time. Was intending to change my signature to Mycro, as lots of forum members had it.

Now I see such a scam act from the team. Joined their telegram for news, and only see how people are angry with kyc...

I cant imagine how people feel after wasting 51 weeks on them...

I get you 100% that the devs are scammers and deserve a red tag if they would have an account here. I would give it right away. But my problem is that I have difficulties in supporting the flag against the independent bounty manager who seems to be hired by the scammers. If I start tagging him as an independent bounty manager I would have to tag all other bounty managers where a bounty turned out to be a KYC-scam. So for supporting the flag I need a very strong proof that the bounty manager is a part of the team and involved in the scam by supporting it.

Maybe that's also the reason why your flag hasn't sufficient support yet because the manager seems to be related to them but not with final proof. I checked his profile and he managed also some other campaigns before.

I think, account: HavucHamdi# (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1894757), specifically made for fraud, I'm very sure he was directly involved in the mycro work team,
And my suspicion again, most likely many victims who have been deceived in addition to mycro jobs participants.

At least, from the evidence he spoke that he was originally a German.

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3299765.msg34447624#msg34447624

http://archive.is/4UcwV

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3406965.msg35662800#msg35662800

http://archive.is/Zoao6

Other evidence about payera.io, scam.


You can see here all the (ANN) topics were deleted without traces.

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5080233.msg48513985#msg48513985

2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4837902.msg43645603#msg43645603

3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3616035.msg36576921#msg36576921

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Don't trust this team if you later get a new bounty that is held.
This is a sneaky fraud team.
Mycro team, con artists.

Warning: If you deal with dogs and this person, you will be destroyed and cheated.

Yeah, looks like he's speaking German:

I'll send him a PM tomorrow to ask him a few questions and evaluate if I'm going to support the flag or not (of course I won't oppose it   :D)

The flag is active now even without additional support.  :D

I'm not sure he will answer PM, because @HavucHamdi #, has not visited his account since September 25, 2019, maybe he was having fun with MYO's tokens, someone else's sweat.
It's been 13 days, I think he doesn't need that account anymore,
A fraudster is very easy to create a new account again in implementing a new campaign, so at least I can recognize the existing Mycro Team, maybe for the future, if I find I do not stay silent.

your input is very positive, don't be in a hurry, consider your decision carefully, everything is good and bad is in your hands,
for me the wrong remains in the law, even though it's one house with me, that's my principle.
Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg52689388#msg52689388

Ok, little update from my side:

I've PMed HavucHamdi# and he replied but he didn't go much into detail. His excuse was that he's not part of the team (without proof but we have no proof too.) I can somehow believe he's not part of the team but that doesn't help the scammed participants.

I'm still waiting for another reply from him that he puts in at least some effort as bounty manager to get participants in his campaign paid by putting pressure on the scammers. It's not trustworthy for their shitcoin at all to scam bounty participants and spread lies. A bad reputation can kill their shitcoin (if it's not killed otherwise before  :P)

If he's a honest bounty manager showing responsibility for his management he will try to do something to put pressure on the scammers. I know it's a difficult job but if he cares for the bounty participants I can imagine some users might remove their support of the flag or negative trust and forgive him. If he just stays silent I don't see a way to solve that.

He said he doesn't care for the negative feeback I've left him (well I didn't leave any feedback for him nor supported the flag yet). Seems like he's done for now.

So, I guess we can't do much here anymore. Let's hope that mycro jobs will end like 99% of the other shitcoins: without value.  ;)


Sorry for everyone wasting time here.  :'(
And good luck for future bounties.  ;)

this bounty manager dont even check the replies for the signature campaign he gives stakes for inactive users he got all stakes and we really got scammed i think amount of tokens is lower than 600 k

i am support of this. this guys are scammers and it is appealling that nobody has to say anything. admins here should help us. this project did a bounty for over a year. a year and few months. during the campaign, it was clearly stated that KYC WAS not required. unfortunately, the bounty ended and the project owners demanded for KYC to pay hunters. it is suspicious. THEY DON;T WANT TO PAY HUNTERS
Worst still, KYC lasted for three days. this is terrible and it is very wrong.

i am sorry but i must say that the bounty manager must be held responsible for such act. it is wrong to say he is not aware of the scam activities perpetrated by the MYCRO Job team. he deserved to be FLAGGED as well because:
1:he pulled out immediately after the campaign and requested that all bounty issues should be forwarded to the Mycro job telegram group. Knowing fully well the consequences involved. he knows that participants will be banned and restricted in the telegram group if they requested for their token.

2; He( the bounty manager) should be held responsible please about the campaign. he was paid for that job and he NEVER SPEAK on behalf of his hunters. i asked why he failed to represent the telegram members that participated in that bounty and he said he is following orders from the mycro job owners.

There is no two ways about it. he is involved in that project but acts like he knew nothing. i am sure he is the strategist and the master-minder behind the request for bounty participants to do KYC.
I think he is responsible for insisting that the KYC should be held only for three days.

i participated in TEMTUM Project that ended in Mid August. till date. there kyc bounty is still open for hunters to participate and the KYC was meant to take place on an exchange where the token is listed NOT  a google stuff kyc.

Are you also a MYCRO participant, are you not getting MYO tokens through their silly kyc.

@TheBusstop, patiently everyone can handle it well, not how much money they want to give.
Their mycro team's reputation is worse now than expected.

Furthermore, when you enter the campaign in the future, see a professional and trustworthy manager.

Well, regarding his honesty, just have a look at the spreadsheet.
He has given himself stakes for the full length of the campaign although he has not even come close to the required number of posts.

https://i.imgur.com/Q8xeqbk.jpg


He had also never been interested in the Bounty campaign, simply entering weekly stakes without checking if the participants qualify.
If you look at the wallet of the Bounty Manager, you see that he also got 200,000 tokens for this job. (with a Token Sale value of $50k)
Not bad I would say, especially when you consider that the team finally took the Bounty campaign into their own hands.

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And regarding the KYC provider:
We were always told "We'll use a trusted KYC provider for your documents".

Of course, I never got an answer to my question who this provider was. Even when I had a longer conversation with Thomas Bolleyer (COO) via PM, the provider's name was not communicated to me.

In one of the last announcements it says now only "WE'RE going through the kyc". So now all of a sudden the team goes through the documents.

https://i.imgur.com/D9TA47j.jpg
source: https://t.me/mycrojobs/34776

But as I said in one of my last posts, which serious KYC provider would collect the data via a Google form.  ::)

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Oh, and one more thing:
I ended up getting my tokens without doing KYC.
But I also had longer correspondence with the COO.
So if you haven't received your tokens yet or missed the KYC window, you should try to contact Thomas Bolleyer via telegram: @tbolleyer
Good Luck.

I agree with you, they really deceived the participants in the bounty. Moreover, they cut the pool without explaining anything to anyone. Unfortunately, there are more and more such fraudulent companies and there is no desire to participate in them. Because honestly performed work is not paid, and unscrupulous work is paid. For example, SparkPoint, these guys have not been distributing bounties for a year now and the slightest mention of the bounty disgusts them, they silently remove participants from the telegram chat.

Shitcoin business as usual and it would be okay in my opinion to add a neutral trust to point that out. Since he isn't active anymore it's not really needed but you can still do it as a participant of his bounty if you want.  ;)

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That's showing how unprofessional they are.  :D
It's insane how they are handling the sensitive personal data of their own participants; without them, the project wouldn't exist. Another reason for the downfall of ICOs, everyone who's at least a little bit serious about his own privacy would avoid such shitty KYC without doubt.  :-\


Nice to hear that you got paid finally and the COO solved the "problem" (which was actually completely caused by the team  ::)). I hope these Shitcoins are at least worth a few satoshis or you could sell them immediately.  :D

I've participated in this bounty and it makes me sad, that I have ask (count it as beg) to get my reward. I've missed that "3 day window" to pass the KYC, because I was not able to monitor 24/7 updated in telegram group...

With such a bad attitude to bounty hunter, hope they'll get it back as boomerang.

Unfortunately I was not able to sell the tokens as of today.
The order book is simply too thin.

Had you actually also contacted the COO I mentioned above?

He once told me:
"If there are any other challenges - it would be best to pass those people directly to me"