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I want to warn bounty hunters about bounty projects that pays bounty rewards to their platform or websites instead of ETH contract address, they mostly go against their words and you have no control over the tokens even if you have your login details..
Those who promoted Cryptomarketads(CMA) and Moozicore(MZG) knows what i'm talking about, i have decide to stop promoting such projects

It can be hard but sometimes extra research needs to be done on who is managing the campaign you join. A lot of Bounties indeed sound promising but have a bad manager presiding over the campaign.
Look at the campaign managers portfolio of previous projects they've managed, and gather feedback for cross examination from fellow hunters regarding past campaigns. I know it sounds strenuous but with patience the extra work taken for practicing you're Due Diligence is worth it's weight in gold!

 A lot of projects end up being a waste of you're time and energy.

Bounty hunters are risk takers because they were promoting any projects for tokens which may nor may not have any value so they won't see this as any difference from promoting a scam project,if a legit projects refuses to pay then they will be tagged and if it is scam project they don't care anyway.

As a bounty hunter you should know the risks involve in promoting bounties before joining, you can't predict what you will get and even if you will ever get paid, what happened have happened and there is no way to turn it around, few projects paid to their website like you stated and bounty hunters are able to withdraw from the website, keep hunting,more mistakes more corrections 

these are attempts to prevent bounty hunters from dumping. some team go such length to requiring to swap the token after distributing 1/3 of their bounty tokens. the research about the project is not enough really when the team can just change the way how things are after the campaign. all the risk for the bounty participants but then not paid.

Could someone tell me what happened to moozicore and CMA? Anyway, those platforms that manage their payments/rewards actually are ease to most bounty hunters since I'm still not aware of what happened to the said bounties. There must be some issue that op that didn't really like.
And it's known that many bounties today are more relying to luck even the said good projects sometimes are delay of paying or not even paying as promised.

90% of real bounty hunters are no longer participating in signature campaigns. Because everyone is wasting their time. That's why the forum was slowly dying. Yobit's signature really gave life to the forum.

I think they are simply trying to protect their tokens from been dumped on exchange, CMA project is not a very good project if you ask me because what they offers is just repetitive of other already existing crypto projects so there won't be good demand for the token on exchange

Whether which platform they will pay the reward, you don't have to worry about not getting your share as long as the project you supporter is reliable and trustworthy. If they can scam in a small way, and you receive your reward, you should sell right away as most likely they will just come and go like other scammers in the past.

Its not what they can offer based on whats their plan only butt we should based on their reputation, a small red paint on their reputation would be seen already as a red flag for investors not to invest for a specific project, so its future is affected negatively.

Bounty hunters don't have control over their parents be it in their wallets or on project platforms. Projects before distribution still goes against their words and cut down their payment allocations.

It's quite obvious that the bounty hunters spend almost 3 months on an average with a bounty project expecting they will be rewarded but most of the bounties are either turning out to be a scam or the token is not sent to bounty hunters as promised , it's shared with them after the value of the token is almost equal to zero and this has happened with some of the trusted projects like Athero. Yobit is solely responsible for keeping this forum alive as most of the members were inactive before the cryptotalk campaign.

In your opinion, if the tokens will be in your wallet, but will have zero value, will this make it easier for you?Moozicore is quite a normal project and I hope very soon You will get your earned coins and withdraw them to your wallet.Your concern is unfounded.

Oh well, its pretty obvious that those kind of bounties are not to be trusted.

They can just pull off an exit scam anytime and since you don't have control over it, then all your efforts are gone. At least you stop promoting them and learn from your mistakes.

Don't waste your time on those kind of projects, actually bounty hunting today is very difficult because most project will either delay your payments and by the time you got it, it already worthless or the project is just scammy.

 ive posted on the CMA thread recently and ive seen how they are now in the market.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123256.msg52653778#msg52653778

too bad for their hunters, i guess they will never get anything from it. people should learn their lesson already. about 99% of these projects who are paying tokens or coins for their bounties will never go anywhere! how many bounty programs do they need to experience to get out of this trap?
 i would be happy if no more users are participating to these crap programs and go back again to btc-paying bounty programs.

That's right, some even go to the extent of not listing their tokens on their own platform then they will put a very high withdrawal fee for people who want to withdraw and trade it elsewhere.

Good observation, which of course is most times true. I am a witness to that. Sometimes, they give stringent conditions that you might not be able to fulfill or might prompt you to buy more of their tokens. They could also delay in the payment. Also, it could be the other way round. I have seen some that kept to their promises, such as Twogap.

First you are not forcing to join on that bounty campaign that pay on their platform theres a lot of campaign that pay on ethereum wallet all you need is to research that campaign.
But like what you said I also hated that campaign that make a payment on their platform because this is easy to control your account.

Have been to some bounties that requires you to register to their website and pay through it instead of your erc-20 wallet and I have observed that there are some who would make delaying excuses, lock-up period, kyc and etc. Honestly, I would rather receive my bounties directly to my wallet so Ican handle my bounty once I am paid.

All the bounties have a general rule to they can change rules anytime. If we are doing bounties, we have to accept them. Some bounties change allocation end of the campaigns, some bounties need KYC end of the campaign and many more. That's how goes bounties right now.

Bounty hunting is all about luck, they mostly end up delaying after bounty ends to prevent dumps or to cheat bounty hunters, mind you not all bounties are the same, few projects will allow people to withdraw from the website without delays of any kind

I feel your pain, its really frustrating when teams pay rewards to bounty hunters through websites and you can't withdraw them or they put some kind of lock on the tokens, i have joined few bounties that paid on their website and till date i haven't been able to withdraw my tokens
FilesFM is among
Moozicore is among
Its better to stop promoting projects that tell you to register on website to receive bounty rewards

Bounty hunting always comes with an element of risk. It is unfortunate, but yes sometimes they don't pay. This may be intentional, but sometimes the bounty managers have good intentions and are let down by a failing project - if an ICO fails to hit softcap, then it just isn't a viable project, and so there is no reward available. We just have to be very careful about the types of project we promote. Research is important, but certainly there is an element of luck to it as well - no-one can predict anything in crypto with perfect accuracy.

Thanks for the information. We really need to avoid that kind because all we know that promoting project is not easy so if we encounter like this kind of campaign we will waste our time and money. So before joining in every campaign make sure that you had done research about the project to avoid that kind of problem.

But not all projects as you said, it all depends on the team that manages the project, if the team working on a project cannot reach the target then we as bounty hunters and investors who become victims, now things like this have often happened so we as bounty hunters must be careful.

I know how you feel bro. But the fact is that the bounty hunter does not have any control over the changes given. In developer side, this may want to reduce the participants who cheat. That way it's easier for them to find out. But the story is different if you have to KYC first. I hate bounties that need KYC to redeem the reward. Sometimes it happened at some bounty ago without any prior notification. That's not the deal at the beginning.

We cant blame them for doing this, they value their token the most and don't want the bounty hunters to dump the price which is actually true. You know as a bounty hunter and a holder I like the idea of this team that locked the token from bounty hunters if I see a real potential on the project I really hold that coin/token for a long time.

It still the same result friend, what will happen if you are been told to submit your eth address to receive rewards and after bounty ends you got nothing? or you even get your reward and the token has no volume on exchange? what are you going to do then? its all same end result with bounty rewards

It's often that it's happened today inside this industry, the only thing to do now is to make sure that each projects to support will be carefully analyze, with good understanding with the possible use of the projects and how the team are working behind, chance of picking the right project is always in the hands of the users that will take part. Don't easily be attracted with high bonuses or rewards, make sure to study and learned all the potentials before joining.

the truth is that not only investors get scammed, hunters too... and hunters are so easy to scam ...
There is no respect for hunters, so there is also no quality in their work... it is an unfortunate cycle...
I have had my share of useless bounties, in such a way that right now I only work on 1-2 at a time... good projects are becoming hard to find...
I'm tired of working for nothing

Bounty projects are changing rules frequently now a days, even good projects are not keeping their promises. Bounty rewards are not being distributed on time and even there is delay in product release by many projects. Many projects are following the road map and launching their product but are delaying bounty rewards with the fear of dumping as market conditions are not favorable. Its very difficult to chose a legit project now a days as 1 out of 10 projects executing what they promise before the campaign.

actually, not all projects make it difficult for the bounty hunter, because it all depends on the objectives of the project in question. some projects that I know of using wallets from the platform/web are also quite good, and easier to swap. it's just that some projects do not want to pay bounty hunters, or always procrastinate with reasons to keep prices.

just want to remind you that projects that have high quality will easily pay the bounty hunter. the quality can be seen when the project is complete, it covers the distribution of tokens to holders, looks for exchangers, and so on. we can sometimes guess the potential of the project from little things like this.

I am currently promoting ez365 project and we are been told to use the same email address we used to signup on the exchange for the bounty because thats where the reward will be sent to, its still a risk i am willing to take because not all project will be the same

I promoted eterbase which is an exchange project and we were told that we will get paid on the exchange platform but they end up keeping their promise, right now i received my reward on eterbase exchange and guess what? they have good trading volume on the exchange as well, the fact is you can't use this to judge bounties, some will pay and some won't

Usually they will give the reward to our account wallet, the problem is when they delay the distribution or withdrawal.
A good bounty campaign will give the reward to the hunter's personal wallet, so the hunters no need to create new account for the reward.

To be honest I have previously participated in the Moozicore (MZG) and CryptoMarketAds (CMA) projects and no tokens have entered my wallet, while I have also completed their KYC but until now everything has been crap. I have stopped to participate in such projects.

Undoubtedly, participation in bounty companies has become much more complicated and undefined than in the same 2017. I noticed for a long time that project admins began to feel worse about the participants of the bounty companies, became irresponsible and often blamed the participants for all problems related to the price of their token or coin. Also very often conditions began to be violated, in some cases they do not want to pay at all. In a word - they are bullied. However, not all admins and companies are. The fact that payments are made to the balance of the site does not mean a problem or fraud, but in any case, I would like to receive a reward immediately to my personal wallet.

like most other projects that the team has the right to change the rules about their project, so prize hunters must be aware and also be prepared to accept the risks and all the consequences as well. don't just expect big rewards but don't work well, I mean be more careful in choosing a signature project.

as far as I know, MZG will unlock tokens as soon as listing information appears on coinbene and I think that those who participated in their bounty campaign will be able to earn good money. I do not see a problem in the fact that payments are not made to wallets

Being a bounty hunter is difficult and it can definitely be heartbreaking if all the hardwork that you've put into will just go to waste, especially if you can't cash out and the project ran away. It would be better if you can help develop for crypto (https://medium.com/harmony-one/introducing-harmony-dao-maker-2bdc88b13f9b), there's social mining in where the community can do anything to help the project that they're supporting, whether it be building dApps, writing articles, etc. Atleast in that way, you're a part of the project's journey and earn at the same time.

I've been a part of several bounties where the bounty managers would either screw up my stakes or the founding team will exit out, leaving all your hard-earned bounty efforts go to waste. I hope that the team unlocks the tokens for those ones that are having the bounty rewards locked on their website.

Let us be real, how many projects are successful to talk about bounties, if the projects are able to get funds through the advertisement then there is a point in sharing the revenue and we all know that there are no legit projects for a very long time and if you think that all these projects are bound to give you bounty rewards then you are in fools errand.

I was also a part of Moozicore bounty and they are doing really strange things. Firstly, they are postponing the distribution for an uncertain period of time, and after rewards were distributed to their website, they are not allowing to withdrawal until further announcement.

I had this kind of experience with a different bounty before. The reason behind this strategy is that they want to take control of their coin. They're trying to get rid of early dumping which is quite frustrating for bounty hunters. Bounty hunters are actually joining campaigns to earn and yet they're not able to access their rewards after the distribution. They must get rewarded freely and accordingly because they're part of every project's success.

I don't think this a problem you says about CryptomarketAds and Mozzicore bounty project. Not only both of such projects bounty reward distributed in their website. Actually many effective projects doing that type of process. This is not risk for hunters. Just you have to claim for rewards from website that's it not a big deal. Who guys try to cheat or spammer will be detect in the system. So take it positively. Even KYC is also the same method you have to submit personal documents in the project website.                     

It depicts the human nature of deceit. At first, before and during the bounty, these devs are calm, friendly and loyal but once the bounty campaign is concluded, the devs will now show their unruly behaviour. I advise hunters should always go for bounty campaigns managed by reputable managers on this platform and in cases of btc or Ethereum payments, then insist on the use of escrow.

That's not always a bad thing. It seems to me that it depends more on the honesty of the project and managers. I participated in many similar projects and everything was good in all of them. I was getting my reward. If the project is good, it does not matter where the reward will come.

In the first place, the purpose of this forum is not just for bounty hunting, we are here to learn and to share information. Even though we're not on a bounty campaign, we are posting and sharing. I think if there will be less bounty hunters, there will be post way better than before, as they are not spamming or posting some contents that aren't necessary. The forum will be filtered out.

Now many prize hunters are less interested in signature projects using wabsite, for those who think that wasting time is useless, maybe the devs way to secure their tokens, but if this keeps happening, bounty rewards will be less interested in the crypto room in the future. now almost all gifts are far different from the previous year

Other projects send tokens to your Ethereum wallet, but they are not worth anything. So there is no difference where the tokens are stored.

Actually I do not want to generalize, but my experience and some of the members above are enough to make me conclude that most projects that provide rewards through their own platform often experience interference. I once joined a cryptassist, at the beginning of the project they stated that it was a coin, but before distribution they switched to using erc 20 tokens, after distribution, tokens for bounty hunters were locked for three months after listing on the market, and then there was drama again because of the intended exchange having a disturbance, frustrating. But indeed not all who use the platform are like that, I'm sure if the project is really good and the developer is responsible, it will definitely be able to provide benefits.

in my case  im an airdrop hunter  and thats what i think about when i see airdrops like this  . i dont join them because its a hassel for me and i think i can easily forget which site that i registered on . i join lots of airdrops and most airdrops are like that where you need to sign up on thier website and you will be recieving your rewards instead on your own erc20 based wallet   . another one is those airdrops/bounties that have a referal system where you can only recieve your reward once you reach on the top of thier ladder boards  .

If you are going to waste your time doing bounties then go ahead waste it. Stop complaining about such projects. If you have grounds for accusing them of fraud then do so, but this does not seem to be such. If you were living on bounty earnings its about time you realize that its not profitable anymore and so boycott all altcoin tokens from being promoted. If you all stop this nonsense then project owners will also not be able to market it via bounty promotions and thus they will be forced to pay in better methods like bitcoin or established altcoins like Ethereum.

My idea may seem longshot for you, and it is not feasible to stop all bounties in this forum. But at least it something you all should realize.

I always prefer the ETH smart contract address on all my campaign because it will go directly to my address, I will only see numbers in these bounty platforms but distributing them is another story I have an account on bountyhunter.io and all I'm seeing are number on my stat but there is no announcement of distribution even if the project is already over it's the same as locking your token.

I think it is almost no use to ask bounty hunters to be real,,, they were spoiled by the 2017 bull run where projects were giving out unrealistic bounties, and then tokens hit unrealistic prices. So everybody's heads are still up in lala land and they cannot return down to earth.

You are right of course. If Projects get good advertising, they would not like to share the revenue unless the tokens were free in the first place.

And all these projects are not legit,,, for sure! What real project needs money to work when there is no product?

Payment of shit tokens neither on a website or contract address doesnt really matter because if the team do intend out to pay their bounty hunters on the first place then they wont surely pay in the end and thats how this bounty hunting sucks bigtime.

This is why bounty hunting nowadays is just useless yet most of them do end up on not paying.There were still some few numbers which are paying but their tokens
doesnt really have that much value for you to have that worthy payout on your hard work.So its better not to stress out yourself on joining on one of these.

So we know what we need to do with the project. That is why we need to know about the details of the project before we decide to join them. The bounty hunters will be disappointed if they are promoting the project, but the project doesn't give the rewards, which will worth it for their time. But that is the risk that the bounty hunters need to know so they don't have to feel disappointed if somehow the project cannot reach their goals.

Spend time to research the project will give more information related to the project itself. The bounty hunters can know the project will have the potential to get success in the future or not. But this time, it is hard to know which project could get success because all project still suffers in the bear market. So be careful when you want to join the project.

In cma bounty i see some hunters complaining about pending transactions of their cma for more than a week, others complain about minimum withdrawal to b 50k while their rewards not up to 50k, the thing about cma is that they already made it clear right from the beginning of the bounty that rewards will be distributed to all participants through their website, am sure many hunters already aware of this and still participated anyways, i don't know about moozicore but for cma participants already receive their rewards on their dashboard just the pending transaction is the main issue which the team claims they are working on.

Most of them are scammers, and in the end of the day, they will only end up telling you to pay some gas amount to be able to move your money out of the wallet and that is the highest scam of the universe to me, I see no reason why they have to pay into their personal wallet address, although we have some of them that are just using it as means of promoting their own wallet, but right now, we don’t need all those shit wallet, the ones we even have in our Ethereum wallet is yet to pay, Not to talk of the ones that we don’t have our own personal control over.

I think people should listen to your advice, and not accept any projects that are paying into personal wallet, but the problem is that some of them would not even announce until the purchase or the campaign is over.

I thought Cryptocmarketads will be honest in dealing with their members I was wrong they even ask people in the bounty campaign about their project, it turned out they cannot be trusted at all, if even I will go back to bounty hunting I will now prefer payment direct to smart contract let us not support project that only misled bounty hunters.

Most projects mislead the hunters, its not like 2017 ICO buzz on the top of the world scenario but a sluggish sector for earning. If you are going to go back to bounties then be sure to get paid with tokens that will be worthless but will seem pretty nice and high rising to you when you first receive them. The projects dont even have any basis of market making and their demand for the product will be low since crypto based ventures never attract that much attention from big investors than the traditional IPO market.

So promoting them is basically a waste of time whether you like it or not.

This is why we should be attentive on the project that we are joining. Paying bounty rewards and at the end it is not worth it of our time and effort. Actually a scenario happens to me when I joined a bounty after the project to be able to received the reward you will pay for eth fee and yet no exchange listed about this token. This is should be taken seriously by bounty hunters to be careful in choosing a project and we should have control over the token that we receive.

If possible only join on the bounties paying rewards in already listed coins,which maybe hard to find but if everyone stop joining on bounties for useless tokens then bounties will be forced to pay the people to promote their project.If these useless token rewards continues then there will be no benefits for bounty hunters by promoting it and the team will take all the money and say unnecessary reasons for not paying the participants.

Most of the companies want to raise money by allocating some percentage to bounty hunters but their behaviour seems to be very bad after raising enough money. We should always neglect these bounties because after getting the payment we are not much beneficial form it. I have experienced from many devs they won't bother about the bounty people.

Bounty hunters paying with trade able coin is very rare, when I was just active in bounty campaign I only encounter 2 or 3 in a year and majority of bounty hunters preferred to join the campaign making the rewards small for each bounty hunters when they distribute the stake, if only bounty hunters will unite to only promote project that only pays trade able coins in the market, it will motivate bounty hunters to participate.

In 2017 most projects comes with bitcoin paying campaigns,later only they realized lot of hunters willing to work for our tokens then why we need to pay from our pocket.

it didn't happen, there were users calling out not to promote campaigns sending ETH to the escrow but unifying bounty hunters are just not very possible since there will always be willing to work specially those active in social media. most of them are newbies, probably even bots set to tweet and retweet team's posts. if these users just listen to be as one, we could have prevented hunters not getting paid.

These are people who don't understand the situation they are more on quantity than quality, they want to promote as many projects as possible and just hope that these projects will turn out to be great project and will give them a good return to their effort and time, we cannot get them to agree to do only bounty that do escrow or pay with tradeable coins, until they find out they are losing their effort.

The worst is when they ask you for KYC to withdraw from their website. They lie and say "you don't need KYC for the bounty" only later for their website. If their website has a good reseason to have the tokens delivered to the site instead of our wallets then I don't mind. At least they have a site that is capable of that and has a plan for those tokens. They must want you to use them in some way.

 
That's not really true. They mostly paid with coins not tokens. It still seems a better bet these days going for coins then tokens. It is much harder to make a coin then a token.

It is not going to get value whether it is a token or coin when it is shit,I did knew that lot of projects paid in bitcoin and even some of them were failed and token also the same some got value but later it got dumped in no time when the prices of bitcoin gets bearish.

this must be suspected if the prize hunters are required to pay a certain amount of et to receive the tokens that will be allocated by the relevant campaign manager, obviously they only seek benefits from participating participants. therefore, before joining one of the gift campaigns, it must first be considered who is managing the related gift campaign.

Taking over a year to pay bounty and still not knowing if you will ever get it or if it will be worth anything. Sometimes you wait months just to find out the token will not be listed so you get a wallet full of nothing.
This is why I like the new IEO since you know it will be listed for sure so it will at least be worth something so you know you will be paid you just don't know how much. They also seen to distribute the tokens faster then they use to with IEO.

Reasons why i have left bounties due to this almost half or even a year on receiving your rewards and still ending
up with no value or doesnt even able to hit any exchangers.So far i havent seen any IEO that do offer some task
or bounties? Can you point out me to that place if ever it do exist?It would be much more worthy to join or done these
IEO works than on ICO because you can really feel up some guarantees that you would be paid up with tokens that
has some value.

People need to stop doing bounties to get paid. Of course they wont be worth anything. A project which may be veiled as successful from outside may not have raised so much so that they could cover the bounty payment and so they delay it while looking for new venture capitalists and private investors. Waste of time if you ask me.

The only measure to stop that is to stop doing bounties and participate in bitcoin paying campaigns.

IEO is another rebranded name for ICO/STO/ITO and so on. Even if they get listed, who is going to buy the tokens? If you think you will get rich by selling those bounty tokens then you are mistaken. Unless the project itself has a use case or an MVP that is continuously being developed to create its own market for the token and their adoption of that token, the project will fail. Thats 99% of every initial shitcoin offering. ::)

Next time it is necessary to be careful of the scam project as you experience it, but it was not detected from the start if the project you participated in was fraudulent, it was not your fault, and I had been hit by a fake project, at that time I had following the Moozicore project but I stopped in the middle of the road, I did not continue the bounty, I did not suspect that Moozicore project was a scam

Every bounty hunter take the risk to participate in every campaign even they not sure if the project is not good. Always choose the right bounty you will participate, research deeply about the project if its good to promote so in the end your work will not be wasted. Some hunter always participate even they know that the project is suspicious. We need  to be observer even in the bounty campaigns so your work will not be wasted.

Moozicore and CMA both projects looked good but both disappointed every bounty hunters. Many people told me, don't invest in any kind of music-related startup project! Now I know they said the truth! I did the Moozicore bounty, and I don't know where is my token. They sent me a mail that my token on their website, the token will be unlocked when the sale finish, maybe I have to finish the KYC when they told no need KYC beginning of the bounty campaign! Personally, I also don't like to receive bounty payment on the website when it's ERC20 token! If it based on another blockchain, then I have no problem to receive on the website!

Almost every project becomes worthless to promote but still why bounty hunters were doing it?

Deep analysis can give some idea about the potential but now bounties started to take advantage of changing rules at any time from this they started to ask KYC after the token sale completed,when someone cares about their personal data then they should avoid being a bounty hunter anymore unless it is managed by someone worthy to trust of changing the bounty rules at any time.

Yeah its too foolish to think off that there were still people who do bounty hunting in spite of these scammy outcomes.
Its been told and suggested for many that it isn't really worthy now to attached with bounties.Most of them gone scam in the end of the
sale and same as said they do ask out kyc or do alter rules which its participants would really have a hard time to make a choice which
majority will end up on doing work for free since they don't like to give out their personal details.