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Title: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: phillymogul on October 05, 2019, 12:05:21 AM
Even after the onset of the bear market in January 2018, ICOs were still happening at a rate
of well over a hundred each month, but by 2019 the flow of projects had dwindled to almost nothing.

https://i.ibb.co/gdLnRmR/icos-per-longhash-2019.jpg

ICO PROCEEDS DROP TO $338M..

According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Judge-Dredd on October 05, 2019, 01:35:14 AM
There seems to be two primary factors at play here.

1) General crypto market depression. With prices still down at least 50% for most coins from ATH people are skeptical. They don't want to let go of what they've already accumulated or what they perceive they "overpaid" on to take yet another risk. Perhaps the fact the drop off occurred after prices tanked is just a delayed effect.

2) Regulations. The US and other countries are cracking down on ICOs. Look at Kin, basically paralyzed by SEC investigations. The price has fallen through the floor. The Kinit app still reminds you ever day to earn some KIN! But those functions are disabled.

If a team or organization can't even properly discern whether the token they're issuing is a security or utility then the average investor probably doesn't have the confidence to dip their toes on, let alone go full bore investing in more ICOs.

Time will tell but I expect a resurgence of ICOs when the market becomes more bullish. When prices skyrocket people are emboldened to take risks they otherwise wouldn't.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: makishart on October 05, 2019, 01:39:22 AM
The firm is getting the information from icohash only which already disappeared or dead. Bitcointalk is much better than it consider about so many icos are always coming everydays.
That firm must use icodrop and crypto rank as the best source to get the latest information regarding the new icos.
Icohash is not a reliable source to create an analization.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: tsaroz on October 05, 2019, 03:06:41 AM
ICOs have morphed into IEO and the change is for good. The number of ICOs/IEOs too have dramatically decreased as investors have become more concerned about their investments. There are some shady exchanges that are listing IEOs with zero research and analysis just for a small fee but most of the people are now aware of such practice. Only the IEOs issued from a promising exchange are getting attraction while other are not fully funded. This is making the project team more dedicated to make their project look promising and actually working to prove their authenticity. It doesn't mean it would filter every scam but it would filter the most of them.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Tipstar on October 05, 2019, 03:18:04 AM
The bull run mushroomed a lot of unplanned and haphazard projects and ICOs. They were focused on collecting money rather than doing the job. One of the reason for such a long depression in crypto is due to ICO. And I'm glad they are going. Crypto surely is a good platform to collect funds but people used it to scam. Now investors would only believe in projects that are actually regulated.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: NathanJB on October 05, 2019, 03:24:14 AM
Some active ANN threads here are old ANN threads but with many active community members. The project must also be actively developing. Those new ANN threads are either going up against difficult obstacles before they make it or will not even reach their destination. Either way, the investors are already wary of a lot of scam and failed ICOs.

ICO coming to its end will be a sign of a new beginning. IEO is the new kind of offering right now. But we cannot tell when it will also be replaced with a better one. That is always the cycle.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on October 05, 2019, 03:30:26 AM
Maybe you need to make an analyst too to the result of ICO who launch ANN on this forum, if you have a concern on it.

But, in my opinion the chart is right since there are many ICOs project who end up in scam or just didn't reach the fund as they wanted.

Because there is another way to invest in new project and profitable surely with the safe way. And I believe many people out there will choose IEO comparing to ICO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: AwoCorporation on October 05, 2019, 03:32:34 AM
The bull run mushroomed a lot of unplanned and haphazard projects and ICOs. They were focused on collecting money rather than doing the job. One of the reason for such a long depression in crypto is due to ICO. And I'm glad they are going. Crypto surely is a good platform to collect funds but people used it to scam. Now investors would only believe in projects that are actually regulated.
yes, investors are now beginning to not easily trust the ICO project. not because of the system, but only in good projects and surely they will invest. then it will be difficult for us to see projects using the current successful ICO system quickly or with perfect funds, because investors are no longer easy to fool. maybe someday will be completely lost and not used anymore, or maybe there will be new regulations that strengthen ICO for the better.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: jazmuzika217 on October 05, 2019, 04:14:46 AM
Honestly,no one know and no one can predict when crypto will die. Because this is normal that every crypto is change it's price quickly whatever it is forward or falling. But it's up to you if you were believe to this kind of prediction. Remember that there are also a prediction last 2018 that bitcoin will die before year 2019 came but look bitcoin is still alive up to now.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Mianae on October 05, 2019, 05:25:12 AM
ICOs are not dead yet. The ICOs were affected by couple of things as bear market which crippled investors choice of investment. Unending scam projects coming up daily to have an ICO. There's no regulation there's no guarantee of ROI to investors.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Stanlo on October 05, 2019, 06:01:00 AM
ICOs aren't dead yet its just that no one have interest in them anymore, scammers are responsible for all this and investors have move on to IEO from big exchanges, IEO is not that different from ICO though but more reliable, better to keep sticking with exchanges like binance or gate because they have good record of past IEO projects


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Bitbtc8 on October 05, 2019, 06:18:39 AM
ICOs are no longer profitable because they aren't legit anymore, scammers have take over ICO fund raising since 2018 and many people lose tons of money to them, if ICO become extinct today its for the better because people are tired of all these scam artists and be want solution badly


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Sancho18 on October 05, 2019, 06:32:53 AM
Unfortunately or fortunately, tokensales in the form in which we have already become accustomed to seeing them are really dead. Investors need more protection to open their wallets again. Even IEO do not provide such protection and participation in them is more reminiscent of participation in a lottery or gambling than a real investment act. Maybe STO will be the solution to the problem, but there are also many pitfalls and risks. Worst of all, I do not see any new creative ideas with viable potential among new projects. Sad.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: khiholangkang on October 05, 2019, 06:45:40 AM
ICOs aren't dead yet its just that no one have interest in them anymore
What is the difference between dead and having no interest?
I think the meaning of the word dead here is that there are no interested people, so ICO no longer exists

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scammers are responsible for all this and investors have move on to IEO from big exchanges, IEO is not that different from ICO though but more reliable, better to keep sticking with exchanges like binance or gate because they have good record of past IEO projects
Now IEO is also starting to lose interest, you can see IEO in some of the exchanges you mentioned, the smaller the profit gained from each project


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: bitstalker on October 05, 2019, 06:52:59 AM
Actually, there is no need to be surprised about this because a lot of projects since 2017-2018 have ended in failure and some of the scams, and that also gives a little impetus why the income received by ico has decreased dramatically and yes the IEO trend has also been an influence on this because since 2018 some projects that implement IEO can be said to be quite interesting because the projects they bring are really serious projects and not like ico although some IEO at the beginning there are many who experience problems for example Project Bread, Gifto


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: SvonioneFromMangoCoinz on October 05, 2019, 07:04:07 AM
ICOs are no longer hot because now there is an IEO, a new way to raise capital and it's a lot safer for investors.
Besides, ICO projects are not really convincing now, the ideas are duplicating a lot and I have yet to see any really good ICO projects in 2019. It seems that the great ideas have been implemented currently with IEO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: DarkIT on October 05, 2019, 07:07:53 AM
Unfortunately or fortunately, tokensales in the form in which we have already become accustomed to seeing them are really dead. Investors need more protection to open their wallets again. Even IEO do not provide such protection and participation in them is more reminiscent of participation in a lottery or gambling than a real investment act. Maybe STO will be the solution to the problem, but there are also many pitfalls and risks. Worst of all, I do not see any new creative ideas with viable potential among new projects. Sad.
I had thought that finding ideas to attract investors using ICO was quite difficult. some ICOs that even appear to have concepts and are engaged in the same field. but, I am also very aware that up to now ICO has indeed begun to diminish.

most likely, the new ICO will appear quite a lot when prices recover again. I am sure, there will be enough investors who are eyeing potential ICO, IEO, or STO. so I think they also wait for the right time to appear.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: metallica101 on October 05, 2019, 07:08:58 AM
Even after the onset of the bear market in January 2018, ICOs were still happening at a rate
of well over a hundred each month, but by 2019 the flow of projects had dwindled to almost nothing.

https://i.ibb.co/gdLnRmR/icos-per-longhash-2019.jpg

ICO PROCEEDS DROP TO $338M..

According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?

ICOs are still there, but they will disappear eventually, more because of indifference than because of the regulators or scams. People want some levels of certainty, and IEOs can provide that. ICOs can't. Both are based on trust, but if an exchange messes up, people will have someone to blame. If you lose your money in an ICO because you messed up, that's on you, and most people don't care to deal with it, so they choose IEOs.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: joseyphil82 on October 05, 2019, 07:11:25 AM
There haven't been many good projects in crypto space since investors stop investing in ICO, this means that even the present fund raising strategy is not solving scam issue in crypto space, exchanges is what stand between investors and projects now through IEO fund raising but its still not stopping scammers


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: bgaf on October 05, 2019, 07:17:38 AM
Agree to disagree. ICOs have drop tremendously and that study cannot be based on rumors and clearly is a fact. But there are still number of projects that resort to ICOs and yet to still survive. I got a feeling some dev were not fond of trusting their project with IEO, and also, how about new coin not token, how many exchange support coin IEO? I'm pretty sure its few. So they choose ICOs to raise fund.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Rodeo02 on October 05, 2019, 07:23:45 AM
Agree to disagree. ICOs have drop tremendously and that study cannot be based on rumors and clearly is a fact. But there are still number of projects that resort to ICOs and yet to still survive. I got a feeling some dev were not fond of trusting their project with IEO, and also, how about new coin not token, how many exchange support coin IEO? I'm pretty sure its few. So they choose ICOs to raise fund.
Is there already a coin crowdfunding using IEO? I only heard this from you, coins IEO must be a better idea than token since we already have many project created in ETH contract more them has been failed and other successful ICO also make there own coins. In coins there  are better use of it since they see that ERC20 token was really a big failure.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: dentolas on October 05, 2019, 07:31:10 AM
There are so many factors that inluence the ICO market...
- risk factors - at this moment the risk perception is very high, people are more suspicious and are basically waiting for the market
- projects - The ICOs I've seen lately are just blunt scams, or copies of other projects... the best projects around have migrated to IEO
- market - the whole crypto market is waiting for the bull run, so things are a bit paused in many projects
- US regulations
So many scams and failures end up killing the idea,nevertheless it is possible that if the market comes back, the ICO's will do too...
Bitcointalk has a lot of ANN and Bounty, but at this moment they are mostly IEO...


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 05, 2019, 08:25:24 AM
Maybe we can say that the ICO is dead, but we will not know if, in the future, the ICO can rise again. But yes, right now, the ICO has suffering to reach the investor, and maybe they still trying to survive until now. But maybe, this situation will clear the path for the ICO, so, in the future, the ICO can come back and can give the profit to the investor.

The ICO still running because we see so many ICO projects has released, but we don't know how they can attract more investors. We only know that some of them can reach the hardcap and the softcap, which we don't know if that is true or not. So you need to be careful when you want to invest in any ICO, make sure you can collect as much information as you can so you know what ICO to select.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Bitfling on October 05, 2019, 09:07:12 AM
Maybe we can say that the ICO is dead, but we will not know if, in the future, the ICO can rise again. But yes, right now, the ICO has suffering to reach the investor, and maybe they still trying to survive until now. But maybe, this situation will clear the path for the ICO, so, in the future, the ICO can come back and can give the profit to the investor.

The ICO still running because we see so many ICO projects has released, but we don't know how they can attract more investors. We only know that some of them can reach the hardcap and the softcap, which we don't know if that is true or not. So you need to be careful when you want to invest in any ICO, make sure you can collect as much information as you can so you know what ICO to select.

There are a number of projects currently conducting ICOs and successfully selling in the midst of the many projects that have opted for IEO. I think the developer team who has a good project will remain optimistic even though IEO is currently in great demand by some investors because in the end investors will choose the best project instead of the sales method


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: akamit on October 05, 2019, 10:51:10 AM
It is needed to save the crypto industry - ICO must die completely or it needed just for the legit projects.
Investors have learned from their mistakes and they still need to learn more; they have to be more choosy on their investments.

Lately, the ICO industry became like the GPT industry.
I remember, back in 2014-2016, every month 100s of PTC, revshare sites were launched to scam people - the formula was rinse & repeat. ICO became the same thing...

I prefer IEOs from legitimate exchanges because I believe those exchanges do their investigation well enough before they launch the IEO. Maybe IEOs will be down in the future due to smart scammers.  ::)


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: spydee1522 on October 05, 2019, 12:46:26 PM
ICO's have indeed reduced in number since the introduction of IEO's but does that mean ICO's are dead?, certainly not, ICO's are still alive but struggling to compete with IEO's, the ones that are surviving are dormant, some need funds to move onto their mission, some are stuck in this wide market and the only way ICO's can continue to survive is by regulation.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: takngantuk on October 05, 2019, 12:56:33 PM
ICO is over and everyone is turning to IEO. only good projects can develop in IEO, because it all depends on the exchange where the project is doing IEO. without a large exchange IEO will not be successful, and only projects that have funds can do that.

so a scam project will be able to do that.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Aabcde on October 05, 2019, 01:11:59 PM
You could say ICO is not dead but only less profitable. Although there is a bonus, the fact that the loss after entering the market cannot be avoided. I think even IEO can still be indicated scam. Because we don't know when the developer will come out of the game. In this case it might be a learning step for the crypto world to be even better going forward. I believe there will be better projects in the next.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Nivia1st on October 05, 2019, 01:34:35 PM
actually ICO/IEO is not really dead. there are still many good projects that are successful today. just look at large exchanges such as binance, they routinely launch a new lunchpad every month and average project that does IEO there ends successfully. so I don't think ICO/IEO is dead. it's just that there are exceptions for projects that have good quality and large funds.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Tylev on October 05, 2019, 02:05:59 PM
Many here write that ICOs have died, but they themselves carry advertisements for existing ICO and IEO projects. ICO projects have now become really noticeably smaller, but this does not mean that ICOs have died. Now it’s just a very bad period for them. All tokens fell sharply in price and in such conditions, investors prefer not to take risks. At the same time, I see that the quality of those few projects that are now at risk of starting fundraising has generally improved. Although, of course, there are simply fraudulent projects that have no prospects for fundraising.
ICO teams are still waiting for the general rise of the cryptocurrency market, then they will begin to appear on this forum.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: cybernetik7 on October 05, 2019, 02:45:36 PM
IEOs became more popular. ICOs also raised a lot of money. This was higher than their needs. There was too much scam ico. Investors are smarter now. There are many reasons.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: djkyno on October 05, 2019, 02:51:31 PM
It is obvious that the ICO industry isn't yet as profitable as a few years ago, and the number of investors is also decreasing nowadays. Now, most startups prefer to run IEOs which is looking more profitable and attractive to investors than ICOs. The situation of altcoin markets is also not helping ICOs to grow up actually.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Alexandr Kirichenko on October 05, 2019, 02:56:55 PM
The ICO is really dying. Back in 2017 with friends investors discussed this topic. Concluded that inevitably will happen and will be reborn in something another. And so it happened. Now there are IEO and I do not think that it is for a long time, it seems to me that the IEO will soon pass.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: micalith on October 05, 2019, 03:00:14 PM
With late 2017, we see that crypto has taken lots of attention of people which result in great price increases. After, people started to buy altcoins as well as ICOs. Some scam ICOs made the environment really terrible for the investors. This is because there is no regulation, there shouldn't be I guess, and people didn't know how to invest in these ICOs. After we learned through our mistakes, we started not to invest these dead ICOs and their price went to zero through exit scams. I think, they cleared the way for better projects, we cleared the way through not investing them.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: TWW on October 05, 2019, 03:03:32 PM
ICO was great at the height of its popularity. but now maybe IEO is the solution to too many scam projects. although it does not guarantee the project is not a scam. at least this reduces the existence of project scams and even fewer new projects are released every day.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Vitamin_52 on October 05, 2019, 03:15:02 PM
my opinion is ambiguous. recently, ICO 90 percent dead. yet 10 percent of them are alive and developing at a rapid pace.  from this it follows that we need control over ICO projects that would Scam was not. then everything will work at 100


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: CryptoBry on October 05, 2019, 03:26:13 PM


In my opinion, investors (the targeted market of the ICO projects) are already tired supporting projects, buying tokens with many of them doing it for the long-term because they were convinced of the beauty and potential of the projects and then only to be shocked later that the value of the tokens they are holding just got dumped like a hot potato. And not to mention the many scams and failures which all literally raped investors out of their money, trust and confidence. Then we saw the regulators coming in making it hard to do the crowdfunding in the USA. Though most shifted their attention somewhere but we know that the damage has been done so things are never gonna be the same again. ICOs in their original form can be classified as officially DEAD. This situation has risen to STO and then IEO...but again we are not going back to normal as investors are now very discriminating and just because a project is doing an IEO does not mean that it can get the financial support it is wishing to have. I am thinking...after the IEO will there be another metamorphosis or maybe a variation of the IEO thing? Let's see...


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: yulchatar on October 05, 2019, 05:46:12 PM
The bull run mushroomed a lot of unplanned and haphazard projects and ICOs. They were focused on collecting money rather than doing the job. One of the reason for such a long depression in crypto is due to ICO. And I'm glad they are going. Crypto surely is a good platform to collect funds but people used it to scam. Now investors would only believe in projects that are actually regulated.
I agree, many ICO's were created specifically for quick collection of money, and then left in an unknown direction. For new project, it is difficult to gain the trust of potential investors, in addition, adverse conditions for new coins. Therefore, we have what we have.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Ailmand on October 05, 2019, 05:55:25 PM
There seems to be two primary factors at play here.

1) General crypto market depression. With prices still down at least 50% for most coins from ATH people are skeptical. They don't want to let go of what they've already accumulated or what they perceive they "overpaid" on to take yet another risk. Perhaps the fact the drop off occurred after prices tanked is just a delayed effect.

2) Regulations. The US and other countries are cracking down on ICOs. Look at Kin, basically paralyzed by SEC investigations. The price has fallen through the floor. The Kinit app still reminds you ever day to earn some KIN! But those functions are disabled.

If a team or organization can't even properly discern whether the token they're issuing is a security or utility then the average investor probably doesn't have the confidence to dip their toes on, let alone go full bore investing in more ICOs.

Time will tell but I expect a resurgence of ICOs when the market becomes more bullish. When prices skyrocket people are emboldened to take risks they otherwise wouldn't.

These are good points why ICOs had been havig a hard time getting enough money. Not to mention the number of scam ICOs and successful ICOs who also failed to deliver or even launch their product and service due to the market situation. We will see if the same will happen once the market starts to move again. Let us hope we can see some new projects risig once the market starts fully recovering from the recent crash.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: teosanru on October 05, 2019, 06:56:48 PM
I think they already are dead people are just not leaving hope and still trying to raise funding. I think the concept of ICOs was never good because it wasn't regulated at all. people were just blindly coming up with anything over blockchain and raising funds and were never actually working for that idea. Moreover, most of the investors also never cared about the goals of the project. At most they were bothered about a major exchange listing after which they could sell their holding at an exponential profit. People tried to buy in pre-ico in the anticipation that listing on exchange would fetch a price close to the last selling price. So all on all ICOs are dead and maybe this would pave a path for better projects but in a different refined form where the actions of the team could be accountable.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Convery on October 05, 2019, 07:09:29 PM
ICOs have bad times, investors are very cautios and that means that all high risk investments are in retreat.
But do not worry, with the next bull run ICOs will be again popular, people love to se 100X profits.  ;)


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: gaston castano on October 06, 2019, 09:28:59 AM
in my opinion like this because there are many projects that come out so they have to scramble to be the best, for example exchange-based projects that come out every day between 10-50 projects are likely to succeed only 2 or 3. So every project that wants to issue ico and ieo must really make new innovations, or fields that haven't been there before,


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: X-ray on October 06, 2019, 09:54:35 AM
Not exactly dead but just getting more fewer than it used to be in the past, one of reason is because ICOS aren't hyped anymore and people have some other options aswell like IEO and STO. Most of the project nowadays also choose to have IEO hosted by popular exchange just for advertisement and to attract investors.

my opinion is ambiguous. recently, ICO 90 percent dead. yet 10 percent of them are alive and developing at a rapid pace.  from this it follows that we need control over ICO projects that would Scam was not. then everything will work at 100

The project is good then it's good, doesn't matter ICO or IEO for example if the developers are some kind of popular people as well as the advisors it will be a huge success regardless the method of crowdfunding. IEO or ICO is only the way to the funding and not an the factor that decides whether it will be succes or not.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: spike420211 on October 06, 2019, 10:04:17 AM
Unfortunately or fortunately, tokensales in the form in which we have already become accustomed to seeing them are really dead. Investors need more protection to open their wallets again. Even IEO do not provide such protection and participation in them is more reminiscent of participation in a lottery or gambling than a real investment act. Maybe STO will be the solution to the problem, but there are also many pitfalls and risks. Worst of all, I do not see any new creative ideas with viable potential among new projects. Sad.

So far, of all the past service stations, there has not been a single one truly successful, although this is a much more preferable option for investors than ICO. For the first half of this year, about 20 service stations were held with a total capitalization of about $ 20 million, which is not much. It does not seem that the trend really gained momentum.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Ucy on October 06, 2019, 10:19:58 AM
This is nothing.
I think the researchers may fail because they see things in different perspectives. They think it all about money and greedy. Their minds are filled with biases.
 I strongly believe there are many developers who want to build "real products" that work. Whether they fund them via crowdfunding or not is up to them. Such developers most likely do not care too much about the monetary rewards. They feel like their lives depend on building the "real things". They won't give until the real things are built, whether by them or someone else.  It'll be hard to quench such fire



Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: spadormie on October 06, 2019, 10:41:18 AM
The truth in here is that nobody trusts ICO right now. More people are into IEO's which is the newest system of token sales. Or probably there is a depression in cryptocurrency since the massive drop from the 20k ath of btc. And still bot making a move to get to that ath again. Nobody is trusting ICO right now because most ICO nowadays ends as a scam in cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: #Darren on October 06, 2019, 11:24:25 AM
This is the reality of todays market. 20 percent of all projects that are published on ANN and Bounty threads are going to collect their soft cap, a half of them will run away with your money, another 49 percent will drop in price and only one percent of all those projects will bring you something.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: lighpulsar07 on October 06, 2019, 11:57:33 AM
Well for me, ICOs are now dead. All great developers aren't interested in developing good projects since the cryptomarkets isn't performing good since the price of bitcoin affects the cryptocurrency economy greatly the IEOs is basically pump and dump scheme most of its projects are shit only few projects in IEO are promising but i doubt that it will prosper.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: mr_random on October 06, 2019, 12:04:14 PM
According to the latest researchers on the crypto industry, the developing projects attend in the IEO because teams also shift their attention towards the big exchanges. Now they understand the advantages of the IEO project, the listing problem is not even case if their idea can attract the new investors during the token sale. I agree that old projects just overestimated by the crypto investors, new path is now cleaner compare to the old struggles.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: cahbagus555 on October 06, 2019, 12:04:47 PM
This is the reality of todays market. 20 percent of all projects that are published on ANN and Bounty threads are going to collect their soft cap, a half of them will run away with your money, another 49 percent will drop in price and only one percent of all those projects will bring you something.

Agree, only a few new projects can survive amid a lot of negative news and a decline in the cryptocurrency market. Maybe the ICO is not completely dead but the interest of investors to join the ICO is declining even though in my opinion there are several ICOs that look potential and can sell their tokens on target


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: aysg76 on October 06, 2019, 12:18:05 PM
Well for me, ICOs are now dead. All great developers aren't interested in developing good projects since the cryptomarkets isn't performing good since the price of bitcoin affects the cryptocurrency economy greatly the IEOs is basically pump and dump scheme most of its projects are shit only few projects in IEO are promising but i doubt that it will prosper.
Exactly, I'm just done with the ICO's since most of these are just turning out to be a scam and are not really useful. Most of these are not able to reach even their starting capital as they demand too much in the bearish market. The ICO based projects are now too difficult to succeed as the investors are no longer willing to believe in the ICO projects and I doubt it would be difficult to rebuild that trust...


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: bitcoinposts on October 06, 2019, 03:34:46 PM
Now the market is full of IEO .ICO market past coins doesnt have growth we should invest to IEO .IEO have more secured model than icos . icos could nt sustain because of bear market nad some flaws in market



Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Impaler on October 06, 2019, 04:30:20 PM
In 2017 or in early 2018 icos were good to go. There were many icos which gave ahugr amount of profit plus many of them are established project now. But now the wholenico market is not doing goof. But a modified version of icos which is ieo are trending.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Akoldi_ibk on October 06, 2019, 11:02:43 PM
ICOs are not dead, but merely been replaced by another entity that does better what it was created to do. We have another alternative to ICO which is less scamming, secure and more trusted by investors, with the same intention of raising funds in the form of IEO. IEO has replaced ICO which might have resulted in little or no project taking the route of ICO to raise development funds.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Psynthax on October 06, 2019, 11:23:15 PM
This is the reality of todays market. 20 percent of all projects that are published on ANN and Bounty threads are going to collect their soft cap, a half of them will run away with your money, another 49 percent will drop in price and only one percent of all those projects will bring you something.
that's true but the majority of the scam projects have already manipulated their total raised funds and that means if this can't be trusted. It's much better not try to believe in a project that doesn't even wanna be transparent to the investors.
A few projects are giving us something but it can't be determined easily consider about the scam projects are dominating the announcement thread remember forkcoin is also giving a lot of contribution in this case


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: ImSuparmin on October 06, 2019, 11:35:03 PM
ICO does not actually die, but ICO can also be called manipulating by making ICO fraudulent, so that at this time few want to invest in ICO, because of the lack of investors, it will be like this that ICO seems to die.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: bitzizzix on October 06, 2019, 11:59:46 PM
ICO develops when the market is good throughout 2017 until the end of 2018 and after that the market starts to deteriorate again and that includes influencing the presence and absence of ICOs and after the ICO goes well there are several ICOs that end in fraud which makes ICO no longer trusted.
and now IEO is starting to wake up and hopefully it's not as bad as the ICO journey.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: joshua123 on October 07, 2019, 12:07:00 AM
No it isnt die yet. Still a lot of good ICOs were able to raise funds and able to continue project. The problem here is we all know that IEO has entered the scene and become more interesting to everybody than ICO. Of course there are people who wants a solid and easy money and they know that IEO is much better way compared to ICO. Believe me, people investing in such crowdfunding is more inclined towards profit than the ability of the project to improve more later on.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: minairia3 on October 07, 2019, 12:14:34 AM
This inevitable drop actually. Aside from ICO, there are types of crowdfunding method that investors are more interested with like IEO and STO. The difference of ICO to both, is that ICO lack liquidity and legality check. IEO conducted by exchanges so clearly its reassuring already for investors to pick this than merely ICO. In case of STO, they protecting the rights of the investors and the price of their token so its also an eye catching method compared to ICO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Eugenar on October 07, 2019, 01:53:53 AM
Even after the onset of the bear market in January 2018, ICOs were still happening at a rate
of well over a hundred each month, but by 2019 the flow of projects had dwindled to almost nothing.

https://i.ibb.co/gdLnRmR/icos-per-longhash-2019.jpg

ICO PROCEEDS DROP TO $338M..

According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?

Basically we don't have the capability to predict the future of altcoins. It was very broad since the world is open for innovation, new and new projects will be launched in the market, and the main platform that i can attract supporters or funds is through initial coin offering. Meaning to say, a project that is good will be good even if the market doesn't seem so pleasant, let us not lose hope about the development of altcoins.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: tazmantasik on October 07, 2019, 01:56:45 AM
If speaking of ICO at the present time it has indeed been said to be less desirable (dying slowly) especially now that the crypto market is in a declining phase, people have not invested much in this ICO method. Because not without reason, they mostly experience losses when investing in ICO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: inanilujimi on October 07, 2019, 02:01:22 AM
yes for me ICO is dead.
no one will want to invest in ICO if they only suffer losses.
if not a scam eats the price will plunge. so what else to expect ??


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: boltz on October 07, 2019, 02:04:10 AM
Something else will pop-off to replace the ICO's as the IEO didn't have success either so expect new methods from projects to gather funds or simply they will wait for the next bull run to begin the ICO and until then they will work on development as that would be the smart idea to do.

If a project has a good management and marketing group they will think on this and they will work in the products they want to deliver and actually have an working MVP when the bull run begins and for sure funds will start to flow but if they get impatient like most of the ICOs did to gather funds they will have the same results...lot of preparation for nothing. They need to be smarter in order to attract the investors again.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Btcvilla on October 07, 2019, 02:13:54 AM
ICOs have drop last one year and many owner keep exist with their ICOs project but lower respond from investor, the ICOs owner never want to give something bigger with their ICO after success with listing on Binance or Bittrex and brave for listing with gate, many owner only listing ICO coin with shit exchange market.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Arsenyo on October 08, 2019, 01:12:48 PM
ICO's are not dead,there were some project that succeeded. Decreasing in their number and success is affected by collapse of crypto market and frequent cases of scams. Investors want to be more concerned about their investments, that is why appears IEO's, which is already a preferred method for the majority of investors. I hope it helps to eliminate scams and change current fundraising situation for better.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: asus09 on October 08, 2019, 01:17:53 PM
Before launching of IEO many ICO success with sold out and raised hard cap with few week, maybe just one week ICO selling raised hard cap and sold out but today after many IEO listing with big market many investor move to IEO and get faster profit than invest with ICO, by investing in IEO just take one weeks they can sell their coin.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: arimamib on October 08, 2019, 01:25:04 PM
ICO's are not dead,there were some project that succeeded. Decreasing in their number and success is affected by collapse of crypto market and frequent cases of scams. Investors want to be more concerned about their investments, that is why appears IEO's, which is already a preferred method for the majority of investors. I hope it helps to eliminate scams and change current fundraising situation for better.
You are right that ICO has not died so far and in my opinion it will be difficult to die even though investor confidence in ICO is now reduced from before. the reason might have been you said before and currently IEO is more in demand by investors, hope many people of the system can improve the existing system before


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: seleme on October 08, 2019, 01:30:30 PM
I don't remember the reliable projects during the third quarter of the current year, the dead token sales affect badly to the investors's confidence. It is better to be a participant as an investor in the IEOs on the good exchanges rather than spending time researching the reliable project on the ICO rating websites. The road to the success is cleaner than ever for the good proejcts, the competition has clear rules for the particular ideas.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Dr.Osh on October 08, 2019, 01:32:39 PM
According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

the reality is very true, that until now very few projects have run sales with ICO. however, I do not think that this will completely disappear. When the cryptocurrency price recovered, I thought the developers out there would re-develop new projects and make sales through ICO. although a little, I'm sure there will still be.

Besides that, although IEO also has advantages over ICO, it's just that, I feel that there will be developers who see how many investors are interested in their projects and do ICO in the future.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: torpedo on October 09, 2019, 02:02:31 PM
ICO is going down my friend, trust me. I think according to my prediction 2020 is going to be the last year we are going to see ICO. No one wants them now, as the number of scams have increased so much, more than 99% of the new projects nowadays are scams. People are better with IEO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: tazmantasik on October 09, 2019, 02:57:06 PM
ICO is not visible now.
That does not mean that ICO is dead and abandoned, but most projects do not dare to do ICO. Not without reason, they have seen investors no longer interested in investing in ICO. Even though the project was good, ICO still doesn't have full trust right now.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: DDante on October 09, 2019, 03:03:55 PM
ICOs aren't 100% dead yet, few projects still raises funds with ICO but investors have low interest in them now so that's why you will see few ICO projects still raising funds for months or even over a year, i don't know what the fate of ICO will be in the future but its not looking good


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: magneto on October 10, 2019, 01:55:20 AM
Quote
According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?

I don't think that your argument stands at all.

Looking around the forum, the vast majority of ICOs that are being advertised are completely nameless projects that have no new innovation with them, or downright garbage if you pardon my French. They are not the major ICOs that we saw in the bull run a few years back in Antshares, EOS, etc. that raised millions in funding.

I think the main thing is that the bear market brought a lot of sense back into ICO investors. There should be no reason why ICOs should be that popular, and the only reason why it was that good at raising funds is due to hype. The hype has died down, and people see that there is a lack of good projects in general, so they are refraining from investing.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: SistaFista on October 11, 2019, 04:55:57 AM
Im not really sure about 'cleared a path for better projects', i see ICO is really dead nowadays, but not all ICO.
Most of the project will running IEO on exchanges, so they can get the investors attention.
Because many ICO were not successfully raising their funds, the number of ICO created is decreased very great.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Kasabus on October 11, 2019, 06:15:39 AM
It's dead now, ICO's popularity is already over as IEO has taken over the market now.
The amount raised combined have significantly dropped and this could also be cause by the bear market, no interest investing in major coins will likely result to no money coming into ICO as well, and of course we cannot forget that majority of the ICO are scams.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: terrific on October 11, 2019, 06:48:26 AM
The charts don't lie, ICO market is dead. For those investors that still put hope with it, stop it.
Look for another investment vehicle that will be worth of your time.

Because many ICO were not successfully raising their funds, the number of ICO created is decreased very great.
It wasn't about the success but it's most of them that became scams.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: trauchot on October 11, 2019, 08:08:42 AM
ICO simply died out and I don’t think that ICO will ever be able to show the results that were 2 years ago, because now almost all cryptocurrency companies are scam or simply can not even collect softcap and investors are afraid to invest in ICOs, because almost every project that conducts an ICO turns out to be a scam, or simply does not collect a softcap.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: kayvie on October 11, 2019, 08:16:59 AM
It's dead now, ICO's popularity is already over as IEO has taken over the market now.
The amount raised combined have significantly dropped and this could also be cause by the bear market, no interest investing in major coins will likely result to no money coming into ICO as well, and of course we cannot forget that majority of the ICO are scams.
Ico is dead because no investors are willing to invest anymore, they tend to choose other types of investment that will benefit them than investing in most of ico which is actually a scam.
IEO is somehow doing good but might end up the same situation as ICO now, due to the current situation of the IEO these days, its no wonder that it will shut down too.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Beparanf on October 11, 2019, 09:03:28 AM
I don't remember the reliable projects during the third quarter of the current year, the dead token sales affect badly to the investors's confidence. It is better to be a participant as an investor in the IEOs on the good exchanges rather than spending time researching the reliable project on the ICO rating websites. The road to the success is cleaner than ever for the good proejcts, the competition has clear rules for the particular ideas.
There are no project thru ICO that make noise this year, I think even in IEO. The trends that is happening in projects launched thru ICO last year made a huge impact in its performance now. The fact that even registered companies having their own products failed due to many scam project that running the same time with them influences the investors to doubt in investing. It's sad that some projects unavailable to succeed even they derve though they might still have flows that's why it happened. Soon another way of fundsourcing might happen other that IEO it needs to be more appealing and secured so they can investors attention.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Krabby on October 11, 2019, 09:11:19 AM
ICOs have really died in 2019. There are no good ICO projects, everything is just scam investors and traders


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: mannybitcoins on October 11, 2019, 04:08:23 PM
Investors now are more concerned about their investment by seeing the recent downfall of ICO. Projects are scamming people and the scams have increased a lot in past few years, so IEO is more reliable for people then ICO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: o48o on October 11, 2019, 04:18:28 PM
ICOs are no longer profitable because they aren't legit anymore, scammers have take over ICO fund raising since 2018 and many people lose tons of money to them, if ICO become extinct today its for the better because people are tired of all these scam artists and be want solution badly

Icos has always been riddled with scammers way before that 2018. Just because people made money in 2017 from icos doesn't mean that lot's of them weren't scams. Because lots of them were just raisin because people fomoed in. Before the bearmarket they often even had anonymous devs that just left the project. 2018 was just a bear market and they were not profitable. That doesn't mean that there hasn't been legit projects after 2017.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Leyss on October 11, 2019, 07:13:19 PM
In my opinion, it is too early to conclude that ICO projects are dead. First we need to wait for the recovery and a good rise in the altcoin market. ICO and IEO are used together by many teams, first an ICO is carried out, which then develops into IEO. If not this year, then the next in the period of altcoins growth along with the increasing regulation of this type of activity should increase the popularity of ICO and IEO projects. A significant part of new projects will not be able to use the services of exchanges to organize fundraising in IEO format, but for now, ICO is the main way for new tokens to appear. Therefore, there is no alternative to the development of cryptocurrency yet.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: cvasy on October 11, 2019, 07:42:25 PM
Many in the ultas explained that ico can only waste a long time in a project, even ico has a lot of dead this year, in crypto now it only accepts pure ico. replace with a new trend that is ieo which can shorten the time and definite clarity in a project that is good for the future of crypto itself


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: coinfinger on October 13, 2019, 03:12:28 PM
It us every surprising to me also that with the negative talks that has been around on ICO and developers, there are still lots of projects that are being released on daily basis. I just read a post from another op not quite long where he made claim that most ICO don’t even generate more than $100 again and I wonder if he really knows what is going on.

Projects here are still generating lots of money, and especially most of the ones that runs through the IEO platform, even the shitty projects when they are established still raise close to $500k, so the ICO market is still booming, although many of them don't really meet up again, but I know that before it gets to the level predicted that ICO market will die, we would have had lots of regulation that will get some of the bad projects that are spoiling the ICO off the market.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: kidbounty on October 13, 2019, 03:47:55 PM
ICO is dead, there is no hope for new projects that want to raise development funds from ICO. but the good news is that there is now a new, better way, IEO. IEO provides new opportunities for projects and investors who are serious about developing blockchain. many large exchanges routinely release lunchpads and when viewed these projects are always successful and all tokens are sold out during IEO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: arifteguhr on October 13, 2019, 04:18:56 PM
Yes, ICOs (https://www.cryptozink.io/what-is-an-initial-coin-offering-ico/) are dead. Replaced by STOs (https://www.cryptozink.io/what-is-a-security-token-offering-sto/) and IEOs (https://www.cryptozink.io/what-is-an-initial-exchange-offering-ieo/). The sheer number of ICO scams in 2018 (https://www.cryptozink.io/karat-gold-ico-scam-sec-investigation/) tells the story. The method could have worked if they weren't so many scammers.
But it seems that even though replaced by IEO or STO, it seems that people are not very interested anymore in investing in these two methods. can be seen in the last 2 months there was no information that IEO was a big success and instead many IEOs were detected as fraud


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: BlackFor3st on October 13, 2019, 04:40:21 PM
Even after the onset of the bear market in January 2018, ICOs were still happening at a rate
of well over a hundred each month, but by 2019 the flow of projects had dwindled to almost nothing.

https://i.ibb.co/gdLnRmR/icos-per-longhash-2019.jpg

ICO PROCEEDS DROP TO $338M..

According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?

There is a big chance that they will likely to disappear as ICO's have been overtaken by IEO's. Though we are still in bear season so we cannot guarantee yet that ICO's will not be alive again once we will step in the peak season.

But base in your graph, the ICO's are almost fading this year and this was because either they are out of ideas on what to launch or they are waiting for the right time to launch their projects like in peak season.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: zabir.brutov on October 13, 2019, 04:53:29 PM
There are still some ICOs that are collecting money in a traditional way, but in general IEOs have fully replaced them. It is much more profitable to buy tokens on Binance or Huobi rather than to take part in different ICOs.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Mike Mayor on October 14, 2019, 07:25:52 PM
I don't think it is the ICO to blame. An ICO is neutral just like a knife. A knife is not a bad thing but someone can choose to stab and kill another person but does that make the knife bad? No the knife remains neutral.
The intention of the person who is holding the knife is the question at hand and the exact same thing goes with ICO. You cannot say ICO is a bad thing just because scammers take advantage. Scammers take advantage of social media too and is that bad? They will take advantage of anything they can and the newer it is the easier it is since less people are experienced and so scamming is easier.

It is ultimately up to people to stop being scammed and giving in to greed and other thoughts.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: huu78 on October 15, 2019, 01:28:43 PM
ICO does not die, it just loses competing with this IEO. IEO gives a decent profit compared to ICOS. The ICO is to giving a big discount bonus, making later on the exchange will experience a significant decline. ICO may return if the arrangement is efficient.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Palider on October 15, 2019, 03:27:02 PM
ICO's popularity has dropped due to the scam, Many have made a profit in 2017 due to strong ICO demand. And in 2018 it slowed slightly with Bitcoin's gradual price decline. And this year it has become even weaker because of the IEO.

What is IEO?
IEO is Initial Exchange Offering where the holder is the exchanger. So the coins or tokens are very trustworthy in this way as they will surely list a coin / token immediately if the campaign project is successful.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Drai on November 03, 2019, 09:34:37 AM
But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?
The ICO market is really terrible right now, there are little to no investors and even the ICO market is not faring any better, you are seeing ANN threads and Bounties mostly because many of these projects are self funded and additionally, there are still hopefuls that are hoping to still launch their ICO and raise funds but most of the projects sticking around right now are those that maybe already launched but wasted too much time before conducting ICO and are just waiting to see if the ICO market would get better so they can hold their tokensale.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: bitcoinposts on November 03, 2019, 10:12:41 AM
Icos now are divived into Ieos and these ieos are working towards more security of funds of investors hopefully Ieos model may be successful in the coming future


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: sorrros on November 03, 2019, 10:16:09 AM
And you wonder? ICOs made a lot of harm in the market, they weren´t able to achive goals in 99% cases.
Maybe a few IEOs will keep up, but really don't expect a boom like in 2017  :'(. You can thank the greedy peolpe.  :)


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: #Darren on November 03, 2019, 10:18:10 AM
Projects that are doing ICO nowadays are very likely to fail to raise enough funds, because of the lack of investors interest. Unfortunately,  investors are more interested in fast profits, thats why they are all taking part in IEOs on big exchanges.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: dentolas on November 03, 2019, 10:29:17 AM
Smoke and mirrors my friend... I think this is just the last scammers giving it a try... the whole market has already moved to IEO...
Why would people still invest in something with a much higher risk than IEO? Not that IEO is perfect as it still has it's risks, but is way much better than ICO... so....


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Zeke_23 on November 03, 2019, 10:33:58 AM
And you wonder? ICOs made a lot of harm in the market, they weren´t able to achive goals in 99% cases.
Maybe a few IEOs will keep up, but really don't expect a boom like in 2017  :'(. You can thank the greedy peolpe.  :)
Ico's already lost on the track, it is now been avoided by many investors and including bounty hunters. Most bounty hunters are now participating in IEO or do trading than waste their precious time in ICO which may end up being a scam.

Projects that are doing ICO nowadays are very likely to fail to raise enough funds, because of the lack of investors interest. Unfortunately,  investors are more interested in fast profits, thats why they are all taking part in IEOs on big exchanges.
It is because investors become more cautious and they don't immediately invest in random projects. ICO's are unable to raise enough funds to allocate in bounty campaigns and to fund the project itself.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: zeingrind777 on November 03, 2019, 10:43:12 AM
I think investors do not trust ICO because there are many scamming cases carried out by the ICO project team, so they choose to invest in coins that will be listed on the exchange (IEO) or those that have been registered in exchanges such as binance.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: zidanw on November 03, 2019, 10:57:06 AM
I think investors do not trust ICO because there are many scamming cases carried out by the ICO project team, so they choose to invest in coins that will be listed on the exchange (IEO) or those that have been registered in exchanges such as binance.
IEO investment is also not arbitrary. people choose projects carelessly. The main point before choosing the IEO project is to choose a Stock that has a reputation and also a large enough trust. because this is very influential with the level of success. you can see exchanges that do not have a certain reputation are also difficult in funding. and the average clarity of the project after listing is not clear


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: tenakha on November 03, 2019, 11:03:56 AM
Smoke and mirrors my friend... I think this is just the last scammers giving it a try... the whole market has already moved to IEO...
Why would people still invest in something with a much higher risk than IEO? Not that IEO is perfect as it still has it's risks, but is way much better than ICO... so....
The issue of ICO and IEO has not been finishing since the beginning of this year. What does that matter? both have the same risks: the possibility of scam. If you already trust the project and the team, the sales will be suitable for the project itself. While this is only a small factor, why should it be so magnified? Sales is the last step, there are more steps up to that, pay attention to the previous ones.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: NathanJB on November 03, 2019, 11:16:13 AM
Smoke and mirrors my friend... I think this is just the last scammers giving it a try... the whole market has already moved to IEO...
Why would people still invest in something with a much higher risk than IEO? Not that IEO is perfect as it still has it's risks, but is way much better than ICO... so....
The issue of ICO and IEO has not been finishing since the beginning of this year. What does that matter? both have the same risks: the possibility of scam. If you already trust the project and the team, the sales will be suitable for the project itself. While this is only a small factor, why should it be so magnified? Sales is the last step, there are more steps up to that, pay attention to the previous ones.

ICO and IEO are almost the same, save for the platform used for the coin offering. IEO is basically another way of coin offering just like ICO. It is just that it is being offered in an exchange. What investors should be looking into is not the way the coin is being offered but the project details itself. Whether a project is offered in an ICO or IEO does not count much. What counts is that it is offering a new idea and that they have a great product that is practical to as many people as possible.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: junkerr on November 03, 2019, 12:33:12 PM
until now I still see a project with ICO. the level of success depends on how the project is in developing and promoting. many are bad and then die, and very few are truly successful and running. especially now that there is IEO that might be better even though it has not been a solution for the many fraud projects.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: upyem2k on November 03, 2019, 02:17:36 PM
What I see happening is that those with shabby ideas or blockchain technology knowledge are now out and the the few that have the real knowledge of how things work are the ones coming up with projects now.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on November 03, 2019, 03:38:58 PM
Smoke and mirrors my friend... I think this is just the last scammers giving it a try... the whole market has already moved to IEO...
Why would people still invest in something with a much higher risk than IEO? Not that IEO is perfect as it still has it's risks, but is way much better than ICO... so....
The issue of ICO and IEO has not been finishing since the beginning of this year. What does that matter? both have the same risks: the possibility of scam. If you already trust the project and the team, the sales will be suitable for the project itself. While this is only a small factor, why should it be so magnified? Sales is the last step, there are more steps up to that, pay attention to the previous ones.

ICO and IEO are almost the same, save for the platform used for the coin offering. IEO is basically another way of coin offering just like ICO. It is just that it is being offered in an exchange. What investors should be looking into is not the way the coin is being offered but the project details itself. Whether a project is offered in an ICO or IEO does not count much. What counts is that it is offering a new idea and that they have a great product that is practical to as many people as possible.
They have similarities but they are totally different.
Unlike in ICO's where scammers are actually increased their numbers and they totally doomed everything about this coin offering, becoming the reason for investors to avoid ICO and do something better.
We can consider IEO to be safe as of now, they become more successful compared to ICO. The way how IEO's run is totally different because it is using some popular exchange to run their coin offering.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: BigBos on November 03, 2019, 05:02:47 PM
I think investors do not trust ICO because there are many scamming cases carried out by the ICO project team, so they choose to invest in coins that will be listed on the exchange (IEO) or those that have been registered in exchanges such as binance.
for now, almost all investors have known that problem, because of this, to date, most projects have come up in the form of selling IEO because investors think that IEO is safer than ICO. In fact, until now, the projects that carried out the ICO system have greatly reduced. Little by little, the ICO disappeared, even last month, ICO was also not so much. Because of this, at the moment I think ICO will soon be replaced by IEO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Undevd on November 03, 2019, 09:26:11 PM
Even after the onset of the bear market in January 2018, ICOs were still happening at a rate
of well over a hundred each month, but by 2019 the flow of projects had dwindled to almost nothing.

https://i.ibb.co/gdLnRmR/icos-per-longhash-2019.jpg

ICO PROCEEDS DROP TO $338M..

According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?
It's because IEO replaced ICO. I think ICO never rise again. Now it's IEO time. Also IEO more profitable then ICO for investors.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: mickey_miner on November 03, 2019, 10:15:39 PM
People have lost millions of dollars on ICOS, I think they are living out their last days because no one else will invest in them because of a bad reputation.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: babicena14 on November 03, 2019, 10:16:55 PM
I am not sure that ICO will be able to raise the same interest again as before. Good projects still have not gone away, but they have become more difficult to develop. Investors are in no hurry to invest and it seems to me that nothing will force them to invest in ICO again.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on November 03, 2019, 11:17:12 PM
People have lost millions of dollars on ICOS, I think they are living out their last days because no one else will invest in them because of a bad reputation.
And this also happening with IEO too caused by the crap exchange site has been giving an easy way for the scammer to listing their token to the IEO. ICO is dead and it looks like we will get another new trend again because of IEO crisis. Honestly, so many crap exchange sites these days are hurting the crypto market to be an unhealthy ecosystem.
Investors have already lost their confidence and they will never comeback again.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: danggoron on November 03, 2019, 11:26:36 PM
IEO provides better guarantees, especially those done in trusted global exchanges. Of course, this goes back to the respective projects, but investor confidence will be easier to obtain through IEO after a long time the market conditions are less conducive and the number of frauds causes ICO to be less desirable.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Denreal on November 03, 2019, 11:35:10 PM
What happens on this forum is a true refection of what will be happening out there. ICOs at this time will no longer get any promoter and if investors get to know about it, they will feel reluctant to invest it it,, because most of them do not feel safe with it.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: udidrone on November 03, 2019, 11:44:27 PM
I think ICO not yet  really died yet, there are still new projects popping up even though not as much as before but ICO reputation is already very bad in the eyes of investors it is difficult to be able to get large funds, now investors prefer IEO because IEO projects generate a lot of profit for them


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: boltz on November 03, 2019, 11:46:49 PM
Why so many people are still asking about ICO's ? Why are still people interesting about ICO's ? We already have Bitcoin, there will never be another Bitcoin ( no matter what they promise in ICO's whitepaper ). Besides this we have so many strong altcoins with working products , top tier devs, awesome marketing strategy and so on. Angel investors and investors got tired of false promises from ICO's so they simply moved away to find already launched working projects that don't have the necessary capital but they're still active and working as from there it can come the big income they're looking for and ICO's were left with only price speculators , this is why they're going near the point of extinct.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: setialovers on November 04, 2019, 12:58:19 AM
Why so many people are still asking about ICO's ? Why are still people interesting about ICO's ? We already have Bitcoin, there will never be another Bitcoin ( no matter what they promise in ICO's whitepaper ). Besides this we have so many strong altcoins with working products , top tier devs, awesome marketing strategy and so on. Angel investors and investors got tired of false promises from ICO's so they simply moved away to find already launched working projects that don't have the necessary capital but they're still active and working as from there it can come the big income they're looking for and ICO's were left with only price speculators , this is why they're going near the point of extinct.

I agree that there is no new project that will be able to replace bitcoin. But ICO for investors is needed as an alternative investment and also a tool to speculate so that bitcoin can be profitable. ICO has faded its appeal after the new project chose the path of IEO and I think IEO is good for protecting investor funds


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: cryptothreads on November 04, 2019, 01:11:36 AM
I think ICO not yet  really died yet, there are still new projects popping up even though not as much as before but ICO reputation is already very bad in the eyes of investors it is difficult to be able to get large funds, now investors prefer IEO because IEO projects generate a lot of profit for them
ICO don't die but 95% of current ICO projects are scam projects so it is best to stay away from this investment in the near future. People tend to invest more in IEO now because this investment can ensure their liquid and not take too long to wait. In fact, in 2019, there were many great successful IEO projects and most appeared at the leading exchanges in this market.

I believe that in the next few years IEO will still be a good investment choice because people have a lot of great faith in joining IEO so it will be very good for our profits.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: TheGreatPython on November 07, 2019, 09:52:13 AM
What I see happening is that those with shabby ideas or blockchain technology knowledge are now out and the the few that have the real knowledge of how things work are the ones coming up with projects now.
You really sure about this brother, because all I still see as new projects are still many of these projects that have no idea of what they are doing, and they only want to create a coin that they can use for speculation alone.

I have not seen any idea that a project wants to come up with that is not already existing amongst the other top coins, and I think any project that we will be seeing now should just be some of the duplicates of these already existing project, so sorry, I am still not very much impressed with some projects that I am seeing except some very few ones that I have participated in which I had to do a very thorough investigation and research on them before I could get them out which I am still not completely sure of them too until further notice.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Rodeo02 on November 07, 2019, 01:12:45 PM
What I see happening is that those with shabby ideas or blockchain technology knowledge are now out and the the few that have the real knowledge of how things work are the ones coming up with projects now.
You really sure about this brother, because all I still see as new projects are still many of these projects that have no idea of what they are doing, and they only want to create a coin that they can use for speculation alone.

I have not seen any idea that a project wants to come up with that is not already existing amongst the other top coins, and I think any project that we will be seeing now should just be some of the duplicates of these already existing project, so sorry, I am still not very much impressed with some projects that I am seeing except some very few ones that I have participated in which I had to do a very thorough investigation and research on them before I could get them out which I am still not completely sure of them too until further notice.
Actually they have many idea but they dont know how to really do it. ICO are not failed because of not enough funds.  they have funds but no experience how to make thier goals into reality. Thats the strugle of many ICO project thats why more of them failed.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: btcdie on November 07, 2019, 01:59:05 PM
Maybe the ideas or innovations of a project have already ceased to exist, that's why ICO is currently almost 100% non-existent. that is in my opinion manipulating the previous project idea so that today we usually call it a scammer. I think the ICO trend can return to its peak, if we can take the trust of an investor again. very sad to see the graph that was made by the OP, even though investing in the ICO project was very profitable in its time.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: piebeyb on November 07, 2019, 02:15:38 PM
in my view of ICO or IEO projects so far this year has declined, we see because of the lack of investor interest and a lack of new confidence in their projects, I think it needs a better change in the future

share only a few ideas, one thing to note about the bounties they are holding is too old-fashioned without any fresh ideas in their promotions plus less strict regulations, this little thing also needs to be improved so that the funds spent on the work of bounty hunters can get results that are also good for ICO projects

ICO is not really dead but just needs a change in the future let alone the ICO done on their site it can make people lose their money so it needs to be replaced with IEO to be safer, at least waiting for the market to recover like 2015-2017, so I think need changes that should be done before 2020 - 2021 later


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: matchi2011 on November 07, 2019, 03:18:45 PM
Maybe the ideas or innovations of a project have already ceased to exist, that's why ICO is currently almost 100% non-existent. that is in my opinion manipulating the previous project idea so that today we usually call it a scammer. I think the ICO trend can return to its peak, if we can take the trust of an investor again. very sad to see the graph that was made by the OP, even though investing in the ICO project was very profitable in its time.
Very sad that it would far from reality to gather back investors interest, with how those many scam projects push them away the chance is too little.
We can't blame those who lose a lots of investment during the peak time of those scam projects, millions of dollars are being runaway. Developers needs to bring up something that will be unique and interesting in order to have new investors to join inside this types of industry.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Kambal2000 on November 07, 2019, 03:34:21 PM
Maybe the ideas or innovations of a project have already ceased to exist, that's why ICO is currently almost 100% non-existent. that is in my opinion manipulating the previous project idea so that today we usually call it a scammer. I think the ICO trend can return to its peak, if we can take the trust of an investor again. very sad to see the graph that was made by the OP, even though investing in the ICO project was very profitable in its time.
Very sad that it would far from reality to gather back investors interest, with how those many scam projects push them away the chance is too little.
We can't blame those who lose a lots of investment during the peak time of those scam projects, millions of dollars are being runaway. Developers needs to bring up something that will be unique and interesting in order to have new investors to join inside this types of industry.

Let's accept the fact that ICO is now dead, its sad reality as this an easy way for legit project to raised fund, but this was easy way for scammers to collect fund at their own interest too, so it is better that ICO will be gone forever, and IEO is now rising , so it is more legit and can be trusted, we just need to choose the right team, platform, mission, vision so we will know if feasible or not.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Spider A4 on November 07, 2019, 03:58:00 PM
Yeah, your graph is something correct but i do not think still now ICO's failed ratio is going zero or something like that. But in these current market ICO projects are very rare even some few ongoing but those are almost dead because they can't collect enough fund to build up their projects. But most provably in this year ICO's will be totally dead. IEO is also going something slowly but most of the projects IEO with shit or small exchanges.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: makolz26 on November 07, 2019, 04:16:39 PM
Yeah, your graph is something correct but i do not think still now ICO's failed ratio is going zero or something like that. But in these current market ICO projects are very rare even some few ongoing but those are almost dead because they can't collect enough fund to build up their projects. But most provably in this year ICO's will be totally dead. IEO is also going something slowly but most of the projects IEO with shit or small exchanges.

I have seen that most ICO now is really failed, most of the successful project came from the IEO or from those project who has private investor or has self funding. Most ICO in this year are ignored that even bounty hunters doesn't want to join their campaign, so I think ICO ration will become zero at all and will vanish 'till they will come up for some rules and regulations regarding it.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: agentx44 on November 07, 2019, 04:24:01 PM
Even after the onset of the bear market in January 2018, ICOs were still happening at a rate
of well over a hundred each month, but by 2019 the flow of projects had dwindled to almost nothing.

https://i.ibb.co/gdLnRmR/icos-per-longhash-2019.jpg

ICO PROCEEDS DROP TO $338M..

According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?
We barely see ICO nowadays and for me, we should take the blame to all the scammers. Investors started losing hope when scams started to dessiminate everywhere and we cannot really be certain that there's still a possibility that the trust will come back again for the ICOs. Many people switched to IEO recently and one of the main reason was because of the faster achievement of the softcap compared to ICO. We cannot force them to be patient always, maybe they have exceeded the limit of patient they have that's why they stopped patronizing ICOs.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Wysi on November 07, 2019, 04:33:41 PM
Yeah, your graph is something correct but i do not think still now ICO's failed ratio is going zero or something like that. But in these current market ICO projects are very rare even some few ongoing but those are almost dead because they can't collect enough fund to build up their projects. But most provably in this year ICO's will be totally dead. IEO is also going something slowly but most of the projects IEO with shit or small exchanges.

Yes I think the concept of ICOs are almost dead because of the failure rate and the greedness of developers who either list the projects in shifty exchanges or else they just run away with money and I don't think ICOs will ever gain trust from investors.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: aomakun on November 07, 2019, 04:45:49 PM
Yeah, your graph is something correct but i do not think still now ICO's failed ratio is going zero or something like that. But in these current market ICO projects are very rare even some few ongoing but those are almost dead because they can't collect enough fund to build up their projects. But most provably in this year ICO's will be totally dead. IEO is also going something slowly but most of the projects IEO with shit or small exchanges.

Yes I think the concept of ICOs are almost dead because of the failure rate and the greedness of developers who either list the projects in shifty exchanges or else they just run away with money and I don't think ICOs will ever gain trust from investors.

because of fraud that occurs repeatedly that makes investment in ICO began to be abandoned. as long as investment fraud is still available, those who are interested in ICO will continue to decline, and may die because fraud costs many people involved from campaign participants to investors and so far regulations have not been tightened for ICO


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Sithara007 on November 07, 2019, 05:11:20 PM
What happened in 2018 was a warning signal for the ICOs. A lot many of the good projects were failing at the market (along with the scam projects) and it was clear that the investors were no longer interested in over-priced and under-developed projects. But the ICO promoters failed to change their strategy. They continued to price the ICOs in an aggressive manner and paid no attention to advertising their project and sticking to the timelines. Anyway, now it is too late for any of that. Unless a miracle occurs, the ICO market will be gone completely in a year or two.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: m0Ray on November 08, 2019, 03:13:09 AM
ICO still exists. Yes very many scams but so same there are promising newcomers. Now the organizers of the ICO who are confident in their product as well as the success of this product appoint well-known and authoritative people as the face of the company. I think this is the surest way to label yourself as a truthful project. Some of cryptocurrency exchange also use big names in the likeness of Maccaffe.




Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: PoweredBy_Awer on November 08, 2019, 05:11:20 PM
I see the cryptocurrency market is in recession. So it's no surprise that some coins die, ICOs are no exception. ICO has moved to IEO, and this will be a new start for this Token.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Mike Mayor on November 10, 2019, 01:39:52 PM
I don't think ICO is dead. I just think there is a serious lack of good projects. I like to think people have woken up and are not just investing in anything like they were in before.
Maybe scammers are exhausted? xP There are still questionable projects coming out but they seem a bit better with their presentation. Still... Most of them are just hot air and nothing more. Someone's dreams that will never be reach or just plain chance-taking "If we don't make it at least we have the ICO funds to run off with" seeing as they already have the money why would they follow through with the project especially if it was a difficult one. There need to be some legal agreements so they are legally held accountable because right now they are not and can pretty much do anything and there is very little you can do about it and that is why it keeps happening. It is up to us to stop it and help and warn one another of these threats.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: pant-79 on November 10, 2019, 03:01:45 PM
ICO is not dead in my opinion, the Cryptocurrency space is always changing and coming up with new things, first it was ICOs, then it was lending coins and then it was IEOs but if you look closely, you will notice that when one has seemingly disappeared, it would eventually make a comeback although most times it doesn't last, I think ICOs would make a huge comeback when the altz fully kicks in.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Samayuki on November 10, 2019, 03:13:30 PM
The idea of raising funds for projects through ICO is not working anymore, that is why IEO took over but the truth is IEO is not doing so well like ICO did in the past but i hope a new solution with take over by 2020, IEO fund raising idea is not enough


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: JC btc on November 10, 2019, 03:59:43 PM
The idea of raising funds for projects through ICO is not working anymore, that is why IEO took over but the truth is IEO is not doing so well like ICO did in the past but i hope a new solution with take over by 2020, IEO fund raising idea is not enough

Once a project is doing an IEO, still doesn't guarantee that they are legit, scammers are genius too, they know what makes investors attracted, they will have their product to show the community too, but, after IEO they will run away, so let's be careful, and don't just invest and thinking they are real because they did IEO. They are already wiser now, they know  that no one will invest in ICO, so they are doing IEO too.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: ModanaLee on November 10, 2019, 04:28:00 PM
Even after the onset of the bear market in January 2018, ICOs were still happening at a rate
of well over a hundred each month, but by 2019 the flow of projects had dwindled to almost nothing.

https://i.ibb.co/gdLnRmR/icos-per-longhash-2019.jpg

ICO PROCEEDS DROP TO $338M..

According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?

ICOS are not dead. We still have a host of ICOs launching into the market and still doing well. What makes it seem ICOs are dead is just investors perception about it. Do we need to blame them? A lot of ICOs made away with investors huge funds in the past. So there is a breach of trust.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: jets567 on November 11, 2019, 02:18:21 PM
Nowadays project owners are switching to IEO after the massive drop of ICO's during 2018 which makes them realize that crypto investor are now very doubtful on participating in any ICO due to its past history wherein most of the projects are scam or fraud so I think ICO projects will be even lower by 2020 but not dead yet.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Plinteng on November 11, 2019, 02:27:44 PM
the reality is that ICO fraud projects are far more than the number of ICO projects that appear in this forum. for example ICO Fraud around 60% and the presence of ICOs that appear on this forum around 40%. yes maybe like that statistics from my observations so far about the 2018-2019 ICO project.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: huige007 on November 12, 2019, 05:19:32 PM
the reality is that ICO fraud projects are far more than the number of ICO projects that appear in this forum. for example ICO Fraud around 60% and the presence of ICOs that appear on this forum around 40%. yes maybe like that statistics from my observations so far about the 2018-2019 ICO project.
A recent study showed that nearly 80 percent of the initial coin offering or ICOs are scams. It was based on publicly available information and sources. Moreover, just 8 percent of these are able to reach the trading stage on different exchanges. With these figures, it wont be wrong to say that ICOs can not be trusted any longer and investors should not waste their time on such stuff. Market is full of scams, yet there is more to come.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Shallow on November 12, 2019, 06:16:28 PM
The chart or graph says it all, in the time past, ICOs was the order of day with many coming up daily but today same can't be said again owing to the bad experiences associated with ICOs. The whole truth is, the days of ICOs are gone and investors are now wiser thus minding the projects they invest with; even the rate of IEO investing is reducing gradually.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Pearls Before Swine on November 12, 2019, 06:22:17 PM
2) Regulations. The US and other countries are cracking down on ICOs. Look at Kin, basically paralyzed by SEC investigations.
Yes, but the U.S. had cracked down on ico's in 2018 I think, so this isn't anything new.

I have a feeling that potential investors have figured out that there is *at best* very little value in ico's, and that most of them are complete scams.  There are probably a lot of them that got burned and they aren't going back for more.  That's a good thing in my opinion, and I'm glad to see that chart. 

If the ico space is dead or dying, I say good riddance.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on November 18, 2019, 12:48:39 PM
Oh well. The gap of absence of projects between the years is quite big now. I was still expecting that they might return to their feet. I like the chart you shown by the way, OP.
This just clearly states that IEO might take over now. I see plenty of those project coming out at bounty sections. I still remember when they were booming back in 2017.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: dimonstration on November 18, 2019, 01:20:31 PM
The chart or graph says it all, in the time past, ICOs was the order of day with many coming up daily but today same can't be said again owing to the bad experiences associated with ICOs. The whole truth is, the days of ICOs are gone and investors are now wiser thus minding the projects they invest with; even the rate of IEO investing is reducing gradually.
Those who really good in marketing and knows how to react in market conditions are able to survive in these volatile market, some projects that succeed before seems to be dead or inactive now, some do exit scam if there will be better project this year those who able to survive might not survive sooner so they need to be consistent on having new and useful updates.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: ivan1975 on November 18, 2019, 01:40:02 PM
I think ICO and IEO totaly dead. Too many scam projects have killed this market.
Even if some new projects try to do ICO, they will not be successful. People simply will not invest, having experience with previous scam ICO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: LargoCoin Foundation on November 18, 2019, 01:57:01 PM
There is a concept of a new type of ICOs proposed by Vitalik himself -- DAICO -- Decentralized Autonomus ICO. Look it up, pretty neat. I know of one project that actually adopted it and successfully gathered funds using this mechanic. Don't wanna promote them, although you can easily find it in the interwebz. We are yet to see clever concepts like these when the market and audience will be ready. I think that the general concept of ICOs is good, the execution was scammy though :( Like with many new good things.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Driggers95 on November 18, 2019, 02:18:25 PM
I think ICO and IEO totaly dead. Too many scam projects have killed this market.
Even if some new projects try to do ICO, they will not be successful. People simply will not invest, having experience with previous scam ICO.
I know that the failure of ICOs  has discouraged many people and made a bad impression on these investment trends, and the very fact that ICOs are very close to death recently, this trend rarely appears in the market. But besides that, we still can't deny that the end of the ICO trend is paving the way for other trends, starting with IEO and later on, there could be a lot of other trends and the safety of investment is starting to improve, projects are also forced to get better over time if they want to seek support from people, ICO death brings a lot of new meanings and revolutions


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: gabbie2010 on November 18, 2019, 02:26:16 PM
I think ICO and IEO totaly dead. Too many scam projects have killed this market.
Even if some new projects try to do ICO, they will not be successful. People simply will not invest, having experience with previous scam ICO.
In addition to your post the unfavorable general market condition of cryptos (bearish) would be difficult for any ICO to survive in the cryptosphere an ICO that was launched last year April even reached Soft cap had not been listed citing one in genuine reasons or the other I remembered during the peak period of bitcoin in 2017 to early 2018 a lot of ICOs easily reached their Hard Cap and Soft Cap thanks to the bullish runs of the market.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: mirgo1791 on November 18, 2019, 02:30:41 PM
as developer works on customs as the occupation of the blockchain technology on improving reference with service of the deliverance, the use with different customs on scheme as the initial public offering of token and the models of business might work as the different chance on customs with distinctive on perspective as developer might collects with the initial terms of work with the tasks of evaluation.



Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Mia44 on November 18, 2019, 02:32:40 PM
Even after the onset of the bear market in January 2018, ICOs were still happening at a rate
of well over a hundred each month, but by 2019 the flow of projects had dwindled to almost nothing.

https://i.ibb.co/gdLnRmR/icos-per-longhash-2019.jpg

ICO PROCEEDS DROP TO $338M..

According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?

Hi phillymogul,
Thanks for your opinion. In my opinion, I think ICO is not the best choice to invest in now. It should only be a fomos effect for the listing on big exchange. For example, it the coin raise $100m, it should pay $90m to pump coin when listing, and then they can sell out their holding token to the buyer which have sold the token when you buy it. This is the best way for ICO now


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: TRONTON on November 18, 2019, 03:49:48 PM
many cases are more dominant in investor confidence which decreases dramatically because of the nonsense process that is seen often in the pre-market listing stage, or the developer looks more confused about the post-distribution situation. Most cases of coins that end up on the small market make it a landfill due to lack of clarity in the project to manage short-term capabilities.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Colt81 on November 18, 2019, 05:26:41 PM
I think there are no any ICO projects anymore due to increased of scam projects that happened before, and ICO projects is not profitable anymore, that is why a lot of investors changed their minds in participating in projects because they don't want to get scammed again. It is also the reason why IEO projects became an attraction to bounty hunters and some investors because there are only few scam projects that are spreading today and it is profitable for them to get back their losses in those scam projects.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: sapnu on November 18, 2019, 05:42:13 PM
many cases are more dominant in investor confidence which decreases dramatically because of the nonsense process that is seen often in the pre-market listing stage, or the developer looks more confused about the post-distribution situation. Most cases of coins that end up on the small market make it a landfill due to lack of clarity in the project to manage short-term capabilities.
It is not actually dead, maybe they are actually saying that because if we look at the market's condition, we can see that it is on a downfall. Maybe, some investors dont want to take risks of investing their money in some projects with that low amount of crypto they have, the idea is that maybe they are holding it for now because it is not actually good to spend crypto while at the downfall of the market. Maybe they are waiting for the market to be healthy and every crypto currency's price will rise up again. Just analyzed what happened last two years ago. The market is at its highest peak so there are so many investors, that is why almost all of the projects gone successful.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: DeathProxy on November 19, 2019, 03:03:31 PM
I am of the opinion that the death of ICO cleared the way for top project to thrive. As of last 2018 there were much scam ICO than the real ones , but with the death of ICO many scam project were swept of and only the good and top project could thrive. Project like Ferrum sold out its ICO within 30 minute even in a bear market. Reason for this is due to the fact that it is a good project with good workable product.  So if any project wants to sell out its ICO then the project should make sure it have What to offer withinn the crypto space


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Kupid002 on November 19, 2019, 03:17:37 PM
the reality is that ICO fraud projects are far more than the number of ICO projects that appear in this forum. for example ICO Fraud around 60% and the presence of ICOs that appear on this forum around 40%. yes maybe like that statistics from my observations so far about the 2018-2019 ICO project.
No almost all of them is scam or fraud and fake they are just want to raised fund for nothing. 90% will be the total scam fraud and only 10 % is real and continue the development they are planning from the start  more of them just use the popularity of ICO before and they are gone now with nothing .


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: duuuuude on November 19, 2019, 04:47:00 PM
There was a long inertia with faith, until it became obvious that most of the new companies were not needed by anyone and there was nothing behind them but ideas and money. I'm not talking about fraudulent projects, which were also very many, and all this of course killed confidence in ico and cryptocurrency in general.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: randegibran on November 19, 2019, 04:49:10 PM
There was a long inertia with faith, until it became obvious that most of the new companies were not needed by anyone and there was nothing behind them but ideas and money. I'm not talking about fraudulent projects, which were also very many, and all this of course killed confidence in ico and cryptocurrency in general.

ICO have dead because low trusted with owner never want to listed coin with good exchange market, they only get profit after coin sold out but never try to get back price to higher after down, I never seen the owner want to buy back for their coin after have lower price and keep try to make new ICO project for investing.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: #Darren on November 19, 2019, 04:53:22 PM
I still think that ICOs would come again. When BTC would reach 40-50k and the dominance would fall to 40 percent, I am sure that almost every ICO will collect their hard cap and would make investors rich as it was back in 2017.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: jacafbiz on November 19, 2019, 05:59:19 PM
I don't really think so, we just need this quite time in the space for both developers and investors to come to rational decision concerning the space, alot of these so called big projects have failed or dumped and the investors are trapped because of the crazy valuation in the space and most people are concerning if they are going to get their money back from most of these projects


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Webetcoins on November 20, 2019, 04:07:49 PM
the reality is that ICO fraud projects are far more than the number of ICO projects that appear in this forum. for example ICO Fraud around 60% and the presence of ICOs that appear on this forum around 40%. yes maybe like that statistics from my observations so far about the 2018-2019 ICO project.
No almost all of them is scam or fraud and fake they are just want to raised fund for nothing. 90% will be the total scam fraud and only 10 % is real and continue the development they are planning from the start  more of them just use the popularity of ICO before and they are gone now with nothing .
It was not the same since the beginning but with the passage of time and the popularity that digital coin market got, it also became a way for scammers to earn some good money with ease. Anything that is hot topic in the world of technology can become a good tool to attract common people with tiny knowledge, to make blunders. Almost eighty percent of the market is fraud now. Investors should be careful.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: llecrf on November 21, 2019, 02:46:05 AM
I still think that ICOs would come again. When BTC would reach 40-50k and the dominance would fall to 40 percent, I am sure that almost every ICO will collect their hard cap and would make investors rich as it was back in 2017.
I have seen a lot of fraud in 2018 and this situation affects new ICOs that really have new teams and ideas that can convince investors, it is very difficult to get into trouble for new ICO projects, because currently there is IEO as a substitute for ICO, this will eliminate investor doubts about buying altcoin sold by the developer


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Xxmodded on November 21, 2019, 03:39:45 AM
I have return from investing with ICO because almost one years no one ICO give profitable for investor, maybe effect of bitcoin and altcoin have lower price make many ICO failed for listing above ICO price on exchange market, I will looking other way how to get profit with bitcoin and altcoin investing without use ICO way, I think there are many chance to get profit with bitcoin without have invest only with ICO project.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: kaneki007 on November 21, 2019, 03:35:39 PM
ICOs is not dead, it's just that now rarely do projects launch ICOs because investors now prefer IEO to invest their money. And investors are more confident in the IEO project because when the sale of tokens is finished then tokens/coins can be traded on exchangers


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: lighpulsar07 on November 21, 2019, 04:01:15 PM
They are already dead since the bubble popped and many great team were quit on crypto and diverse to other busine


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on November 21, 2019, 05:16:28 PM
ICOs is not dead, it's just that now rarely do projects launch ICOs because investors now prefer IEO to invest their money. And investors are more confident in the IEO project because when the sale of tokens is finished then tokens/coins can be traded on exchangers

I don't agree with this logic. If that was the case, then there should have been the same number of IEOs. For comparison, we had hundreds of ICOs getting listed every month in 2017/18. Now this number has fallen to a few dozen per month. But the number of IEOs is also very low. They number only 10-15 per month. So it is not accurate to say that the ICO investors have shifted to IEO. Most of them have moved away from crypto altogether.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Longthi_4823_Love on November 21, 2019, 05:25:10 PM
In my opinion, ICOs are not dead; they are paving the way for better projects. ICOs can be seen diminishing but it is setting the stage for other new and more awesome projects.  ;)


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Apinya_Anong1111 on November 21, 2019, 05:55:48 PM
ICOs are currently on a downward slope without braking. I think he will die soon and cannot be saved. It will pave the way for other projects better.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Snowwy on November 21, 2019, 06:08:07 PM
We should not forget that the functionality of everything in the industry is being dictate by bullrun. I can't really say ICO is dead because what we are experiencing now is market depression and it affects all sectord of the industry including ICO


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: key4co.in on November 21, 2019, 06:15:35 PM
Even after the onset of the bear market in January 2018, ICOs were still happening at a rate
of well over a hundred each month, but by 2019 the flow of projects had dwindled to almost nothing.

https://i.ibb.co/gdLnRmR/icos-per-longhash-2019.jpg

ICO PROCEEDS DROP TO $338M..

According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?
I can say the chart from longhash is correct looking at the situation of ICOs presently. Majority of ICO investors lost trust completely on that pattern of token sale, patronizing new projects with more robust crowdfunding strategy like IEO on reputable exchanges. I can say ICOs are extinct, any new project using that format clearly are not up to date or maybe "sailing an ocean with no focus".


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: ven7net on November 21, 2019, 07:43:33 PM
I believe that ICO as a form of raising funds for the creation and development of a project, product or service is very good. However, scammers were able to infiltrate this area and create a critically large number of scam projects. Of course, this led investors to a loss of money. What will happen next with the ICO is difficult to say, most likely they may disappear, but in their place will come a more improved mechanism. In any case, I hope so.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Kasabus on November 22, 2019, 02:46:39 PM
I believe that ICO as a form of raising funds for the creation and development of a project, product or service is very good. However, scammers were able to infiltrate this area and create a critically large number of scam projects. Of course, this led investors to a loss of money. What will happen next with the ICO is difficult to say, most likely they may disappear, but in their place will come a more improved mechanism. In any case, I hope so.
Let's just accept now that ICO is over, and since nothing is permanent except change, let us adopt the new way of raising funds which is the IEO.
We haven't felt its demand yet since the market is still not attractive for investors but once the market is good, we will see a significant increase of funds coming flowing in the market due to IEO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: crisanto01 on November 22, 2019, 03:24:57 PM
I believe that ICO as a form of raising funds for the creation and development of a project, product or service is very good. However, scammers were able to infiltrate this area and create a critically large number of scam projects. Of course, this led investors to a loss of money. What will happen next with the ICO is difficult to say, most likely they may disappear, but in their place will come a more improved mechanism. In any case, I hope so.
Let's just accept now that ICO is over, and since nothing is permanent except change, let us adopt the new way of raising funds which is the IEO.
We haven't felt its demand yet since the market is still not attractive for investors but once the market is good, we will see a significant increase of funds coming flowing in the market due to IEO.

We should move on now and find some other ways to invest if we are really investing in ICO before, there is a new thing called IEO now which for some other person find it very interesting and they think that it is more legit compare to IEO, but still not guarantee at all they are worth investing and that they are legit, you know scammers are also wise now.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: bettercrypto on November 25, 2019, 01:47:12 PM
the reality is that ICO fraud projects are far more than the number of ICO projects that appear in this forum. for example ICO Fraud around 60% and the presence of ICOs that appear on this forum around 40%. yes maybe like that statistics from my observations so far about the 2018-2019 ICO project.
A recent study showed that nearly 80 percent of the initial coin offering or ICOs are scams. It was based on publicly available information and sources. Moreover, just 8 percent of these are able to reach the trading stage on different exchanges. With these figures, it wont be wrong to say that ICOs can not be trusted any longer and investors should not waste their time on such stuff. Market is full of scams, yet there is more to come.
That is why many people don't want to invest in crypto anymore. There are numerous illegal activities in cryptocurrency specially with ICOs. They just good in collecting funds for their project, spreading their bubble words and fooled investor about their good products. Yet, they are all scam. Only few projects here are really concern for the future of investors and crypto space. That is the reality of ICOs.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Gotumoot on November 25, 2019, 01:59:08 PM
This is because of the scammers who are actually destroying the name of the ICO campaign. And I think the ICO will be gone when these scammers can't really be stopped.
Maybe if there was regulation for these scammers it would prevent and revitalize the ICO's momentum and we would see market volatility rise again.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: restuibu on November 25, 2019, 02:01:16 PM
ICO is not dead yet, many ICOs have failed because there are now too many scammers who have run off investors' money, so many investors are afraid to invest. But if their project and team are real and have a good product then they will make a lot of money at ICO, one example that we can see is ICO BCNEX


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: max6575 on November 25, 2019, 02:07:55 PM
the chance on developer works with customs on tasks with scheme on funding might occupy also different option as the decision on following customs with the work on manage as distributing of uses with possession of available resource on idle with the distribution.





Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Zdraste16 on November 25, 2019, 02:28:20 PM
ICOs are still alive and are not going to die, at least not in 2019.  Investors are now choosing projects more accurately.  The reason for this was the projects disappearing with the money of investors.  There are very few good ICO projects, but still they are and will be.  For a development team with a serious innovative idea and the goal of bringing the project to a successful release of the finished product, ICO is a good way to raise funds for development.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on November 25, 2019, 02:37:38 PM
The problem is that most of the projects that go for ICO now are copycats. Most of the good ideas already have several existing projects, although many of them are either dormant or dead. We had somewhere between 5,000 and 10,000 different ICOs during 2017-19 period and for the same idea there may be dozens of existing projects. And this is also one of the reason why the user interest for ICOs is at all time low.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: upyem2k on November 25, 2019, 02:57:19 PM
I doubt if ICO can ever get extinguished. Despite the rate of ICO related scams of 2018, a lot of people still invest in it. Most don't even mind the new dimension in term of IEO. People still go to project's website to stake donation for their project without being listed on an exchange for IEO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: cryptonewbie on November 25, 2019, 03:09:09 PM
I think the bear market is largely responsible for the decline in ICOs (aside the fact that many ICOs have turned out to be scams). IEOs are not looking to be as popular either even for the big exchanges. I think the crypto market will determine how well a projects token sale will go


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Meowth05 on November 25, 2019, 03:32:31 PM
ICOs is not dead, it's just that now rarely do projects launch ICOs because investors now prefer IEO to invest their money. And investors are more confident in the IEO project because when the sale of tokens is finished then tokens/coins can be traded on exchangers
Exactly, ICOs are not totally dead but I admit the fact that they are now not profitable as it were before. A lot of projects are launched and some of them succeed in meeting their cap however, the problem is only few of them are being successfully listed on exchanges. IEO on the other hand are already partnered with exchanges that is why IEO is getting a lot more attention for investors.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: icekohl on November 25, 2019, 04:33:33 PM
ICO seem like no longer attract investors, because in this downtrend market any ICO projects when listing on exchanges will lost its value. So all of it shifted to IEO. They will not completely disapear, but for me only quality project will survive and come out.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: thirdprize on November 25, 2019, 05:42:08 PM
Three years ago there was a lot of money to be made in the crypto space.  Everything has taken a dive since then and what seemed a profitable exercise now looks like a waste of money.  Add to that all the legal wrangling and it's not worth the effort to do an ICO.  Also, lots of them never really stood out form the crowd.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Tylev on November 25, 2019, 05:57:35 PM
Now it’s just an extremely bad time to conduct new ICOs. The fall of the cryptocurrency market and the high level of fraud among ICO projects are the main reasons for the current state of this type of activity. These two factors will disappear and ICO projects should again revive. After all, this is the easiest and most reliable way to develop cryptocurrency. The cryptocurrency market will rise and fall more than once. And fraud can decrease significantly if states begin to organizationally regulate this type of activity.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: thirdprize on November 26, 2019, 10:35:12 AM
If anyone can name a successful ICO I would be very surprised.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Rampagoe004 on November 26, 2019, 11:58:37 AM
According to us, we see from the graphical analysis that you made it true that the development of the bounty is increasingly declining so that the researchers consider it as if the bounty project is dead, but I am still sure that in the future the bounty project will develop again as in the previous year, for now there is several factors that make investors doubt the bounty project so that many projects fail and have a negative impact on us all.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: monineklutak on November 26, 2019, 12:02:48 PM
If I were you, I would not invest in any new project. Since in fact they all bring only losses at the moment. Perhaps in the future this situation will change.
absolutely right, all ICO now there is no good! and detrimental,
ithis is different from IEO, IEO is still possible to look for profits but there are things to note also for that, hopefully we are avoided from losses


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: samuraijin on November 26, 2019, 12:16:22 PM
at this time not even many ICOs and Bounties have appeared this month, before 2020 it might be really what researchers said that ICO is indeed no longer profitable, seeing some projects die and not getting any funds from investors in their ICO, eventually many projects dead and abandoned, I think there will be better in the future whether that's what? but let's just look at it, please stay away from the ICO project and the Bounties at this time there really isn't anything profitable there


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: andika2018 on November 26, 2019, 12:38:43 PM
In my opinion, not all ICOs died because there were some that I knew were able to achieve the soft cap target compared to some projects that did IEO. It might be difficult to achieve the hard cap target when market conditions are not good but it does require a new project that is good and has a partnership with a well-known company so that investor confidence in ICO returns


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: SolarWindMiningCompany on November 26, 2019, 12:39:03 PM
If anyone can name a successful ICO I would be very surprised.

Ferrum Network had a successful ICO. But if we consider the success percentage which is very minimal, it might just be safe to say that ICOs are dead. Even the IEO frenzy is fast waning out. Perhaps, investors have understood that IEOs don't really mean they won't loose money but only a more secure means of investing into a project.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: biddicoin on November 26, 2019, 01:25:03 PM
ICO is not dead yet, many ICOs have failed because there are now too many scammers who have run off investors' money, so many investors are afraid to invest. But if their project and team are real and have a good product then they will make a lot of money at ICO, one example that we can see is ICO BCNEX
lol you know that there are many scammers, and that's why ICOs going to dead
ICO doesnt have any trust on investors anymore, so the investment in ICO almost dissapear
im sure too in the near future, ICO would dead. it would change to IEO


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: desticy on November 26, 2019, 02:05:08 PM
ICO is not dead yet, many ICOs have failed because there are now too many scammers who have run off investors' money, so many investors are afraid to invest. But if their project and team are real and have a good product then they will make a lot of money at ICO, one example that we can see is ICO BCNEX

BCNEX is not an ICO in the usual sense. They had a fundraiser called the Angle Round that raised $ 1 million.
After this, they conduct IEO sessions on the platform of their exchange, with the involvement of various currencies, both fiat and crypto.
As a result, they managed to raise a good pool of funds. But I would call it IEO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: anjiitem on November 26, 2019, 02:43:50 PM
If we look at the market conditions from 2018 indeed ICO has declined slowly, and now it can indeed be said that many people are hesitant to invest or participate in new ICO projects because of the many scams that make them not want to rush in investing in ICO projects the. It may take some time or a factor that can drive ICO growth again.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: soulripper on November 26, 2019, 02:49:51 PM
ICOs project has not very popular these day because of the new IEOs project are more safest then ICOs projects but still investors are still hesitant to join any new projects.  The decline on any new projects has lead a lot of failed projects. No wonder investors afraid to invest on ICOs.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Sadlife on November 26, 2019, 03:05:56 PM
Probably because investors finally learned that most ICO are just a bunch of ponzi schemes. You can hardly even find good ICO project in 2018 yet people still invest on them make effort on promoting their logo just to get scammed. 2019 is the age for good quality projects with well funded founders and real live team not posers you often see in ICO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: calandra78 on November 26, 2019, 03:11:47 PM
if there is a good project doing ICO, it also will not get much attention from investors if they do not support advertising in large media. because marketing like that is also very necessary. It's the same as IEO, even though the project is good, but not using a good and large exchange, it just won't help their marketing.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: BeManga on November 26, 2019, 03:57:50 PM
Even after the onset of the bear market in January 2018, ICOs were still happening at a rate
of well over a hundred each month, but by 2019 the flow of projects had dwindled to almost nothing.

https://i.ibb.co/gdLnRmR/icos-per-longhash-2019.jpg

ICO PROCEEDS DROP TO $338M..

According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?
it's really hard to predict if ICO's will completely disappear next year
but if the scam in ICO's will continue more people will not participate in ICO's next year even in bounties, many people stop doing it already



Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: ancafe on November 26, 2019, 04:43:34 PM
if there is a good project doing ICO, it also will not get much attention from investors if they do not support advertising in large media. because marketing like that is also very necessary. It's the same as IEO, even though the project is good, but not using a good and large exchange, it just won't help their marketing.
that is not a reason why ICO / IEO is decreasing from year to year. I think this is because investors are not so interested anymore in the ICO and IEO projects, so many developers don't want to make IEO / ICO anymore. in addition, many scammers also have this effect. I just hope that projects can re-emerge as the bitcoin price recovers due to the upcoming halving.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Chicky213 on November 26, 2019, 07:21:34 PM
ICO is really dead cause a whole lot of investors lost huge funds especially in late 2018, some of those projects could not have even list on a reasonable exchange which and exited scam. IEO is a better way of fundraising though we are still expecting extraordinary


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: nicecrypto on November 26, 2019, 07:33:30 PM
Maybe ico are dead now since nobody is interested in participating in any ico projects, people are only looking towards participating in ieo this days, since new project will always look for a way to raise funds for their project, ieo will always be around except new project have decided to be self funded which i highly doubt,

another alternative will be to try out the new Initial Model Offering - IMO   which i see their signature in many thread this days, although it is quite new idea of fund raising but it seem a bit better than the rest.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Kasabus on November 26, 2019, 10:52:44 PM
ICO is really dead cause a whole lot of investors lost huge funds especially in late 2018, some of those projects could not have even list on a reasonable exchange which and exited scam. IEO is a better way of fundraising though we are still expecting extraordinary
As of now it really looks dead but its chances is still very low when the market recovers, why? because we have IEO that will surely penetrate more in the market, when the investments will flow again, people will not look for ICO to invest but on IEO and at the same time they will also invest on coins that are already trading in exchanges, because they are still cheap at the start of the rally.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Tcode53 on November 26, 2019, 11:01:29 PM
ICOs are dead. You may be surprised when you know that not all ICO manages to raise funds. Often a majority of ICOs don’t raise any funds at all while some ICOs raise a certain amount. It’s actually statistically very rare that an ICO manages to raise their soft-cap amount let alone their hard-cap. Initial Model Offering is the best way to go about fund raising.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: biddicoin on November 27, 2019, 05:57:33 AM
if there is a good project doing ICO, it also will not get much attention from investors if they do not support advertising in large media. because marketing like that is also very necessary. It's the same as IEO, even though the project is good, but not using a good and large exchange, it just won't help their marketing.
I think this is because investors are not so interested anymore in the ICO and IEO projects, so many developers don't want to make IEO / ICO anymore. in addition, many scammers also have this effect. I just hope that projects can re-emerge as the bitcoin price recovers due to the upcoming halving.
yeah investors dont get interested anymore to ICO, but not IEO
IEO still gets interested from investors, there are many successfull IEO. and it grows as time goes by
In 2019 there have already been 32 IEOs launched of the 47 listed on ICObench. The completed IEOs have raised over $159 million.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: javainn on November 27, 2019, 06:01:46 AM
ico currently does not have a different popularity like 2017. Nowadays many investors prefer IEO. I think the bad thing in the past from ico that made it now is not needed by many people


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: aramine on November 27, 2019, 08:47:09 AM
ICO is as good as dead with the current situation of the market but they will be revive back to life once there is bullrun and investors and traders have some funds to flip around. Let's see how events unfold in the industry, even if ICO and IEO do not come back again, a new funding model for blockchain projects will surely spring up


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: rose9696 on November 27, 2019, 09:49:06 AM
 It was really dead. Because the contracts are unclear and there is no protection for investors. After we have poured money into the project, we have nothing but confidence in the project's promise of their distant dreams. We have no voting rights, we don't have a voice, and they can ignore us at any time if we raise our opinions. I believe that ICO really should not exist in the future and it should be replaced by STO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: magicrypto on November 27, 2019, 10:03:01 AM
I think yes, ICO era is gone and we can never see it again, it is transformed to IEOs and other types of fundrising, but when the market is down and there are no new people and fresh money on it all of that stuff is not working, as you can see not a lot of IEOs and running right now.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: o.ogurlu on November 27, 2019, 10:31:51 AM
The market has affected the ICOs very much. Investing in a new coin in the current position of the market is a risky situation. And also the majority of investors also lost interest in ICOs because of the not profit enough. Therefore, the number of successful ICOs has decreased considerably compared to previous years. But there are still ICOs that be successful even in this bad market so i can't say that all of the ICOs are dead. And i think the number of successful ICOs will increase as the market starts to rise again.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: qwizzie on November 27, 2019, 10:42:30 AM
ICO's are so dead, that if you watch carefully you will actually see their ghosts flying by.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Google+ on November 27, 2019, 12:26:21 PM
I feel that the methods of the ICO at this time are not very attractive to investors because many make ICO as a place for scammers to commit crimes, investors have now started using IEO methods which according to him can be safer and have guarantees when becoming an IEO participant in a large exchange such as a Binance exchange or other exchange that has been proven to have high security guarantees.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: starblocks on November 28, 2019, 05:38:40 AM
This analysis is unfortunately mostly correct as most of these ICOs where scams or did not have an effective means to gain adoption so make sure you steer clear of any that don't have good fundamentals and liquidity or may be considered a security in future to avoid losing your capital


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: fuer44 on November 28, 2019, 05:44:40 AM
it's possible, with no new ico appearing lately, I think there is a big evaluation of how ico has really failed in the last 2 years. and there will definitely be better developments, of course waiting for the altcoin market to get better too.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: ice18 on November 28, 2019, 05:56:31 AM
I can still saw few ICOs but I think most investors are not willing to invest even the team are trusted based on their portfolios but We cant trust those linkedin infos nowadays so easy make fake ones, yes I can say ICO is definitely dead this time, IEO is more trusted than ICO just choose a reputable exchange. 


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Ozero on November 28, 2019, 06:07:26 AM
I think that ICO projects are not going to die, but the time for their activities is now very inappropriate. Now there is a general decline in the cryptocurrency market, altcoins have been particularly affected and this has a very negative effect on the emergence of new ICO projects. Also, the problem of a high level of fraud among ICO projects has not yet been resolved. In this regard, investor activity is now extremely low. When these two problems are resolved, ICO projects will again become popular for investment.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: jessyj48 on November 28, 2019, 06:10:27 AM
ICO projects are already dead, if you create a new product and people stop buying its the end, same fate happened to ICO and now its all on IEO, still its only a matter of time before a better fundraising idea will rise from the depth, i am so sure of this


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Oneandpure on November 28, 2019, 06:23:37 AM
I think that ICO projects are not going to die, but the time for their activities is now very inappropriate. Now there is a general decline in the cryptocurrency market, altcoins have been particularly affected and this has a very negative effect on the emergence of new ICO projects. Also, the problem of a high level of fraud among ICO projects has not yet been resolved. In this regard, investor activity is now extremely low. When these two problems are resolved, ICO projects will again become popular for investment.
Many ICO not going to die but almost investor not trusted any more with ICO investment project, have thousand kinds of ICO always lower price after listing on market and many ICO delay more than two years or three years for listing make investor tired and resign from ICO investing, now the have invest with altcoin ready on market or bitcoin investment.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: soulripper on November 28, 2019, 06:44:24 AM
I think that ICO projects are not going to die, but the time for their activities is now very inappropriate. Now there is a general decline in the cryptocurrency market, altcoins have been particularly affected and this has a very negative effect on the emergence of new ICO projects. Also, the problem of a high level of fraud among ICO projects has not yet been resolved. In this regard, investor activity is now extremely low. When these two problems are resolved, ICO projects will again become popular for investment.
Many ICO not going to die but almost investor not trusted any more with ICO investment project, have thousand kinds of ICO always lower price after listing on market and many ICO delay more than two years or three years for listing make investor tired and resign from ICO investing, now the have invest with altcoin ready on market or bitcoin investment.
The main thing with ICOs projects the cannot guarantee their token will be list on any exchanges after the release. Some of the ICOs projects are died before it get to list on exchanges that why they got not many investors. Who want to put their investment only on their promises.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: leea-1334 on November 28, 2019, 06:58:55 AM
I think that ICO projects are not going to die, but the time for their activities is now very inappropriate. Now there is a general decline in the cryptocurrency market, altcoins have been particularly affected and this has a very negative effect on the emergence of new ICO projects. Also, the problem of a high level of fraud among ICO projects has not yet been resolved. In this regard, investor activity is now extremely low. When these two problems are resolved, ICO projects will again become popular for investment.

ICO projects may never die,,, but they might as well be dead.

Look at all the ICOs that did raise money, you think they got it from individual investors? No, mostly people got it through a few big whales who were promised all kinds of bonuses. Nobody wants to throw away btc or eth anymore these days,,, they are tired of losing to dumpers and hunters and speculators.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: tianglistrik on November 28, 2019, 07:25:41 AM
I think that ICO projects are not going to die, but the time for their activities is now very inappropriate. Now there is a general decline in the cryptocurrency market, altcoins have been particularly affected and this has a very negative effect on the emergence of new ICO projects. Also, the problem of a high level of fraud among ICO projects has not yet been resolved. In this regard, investor activity is now extremely low. When these two problems are resolved, ICO projects will again become popular for investment.

ICO projects may never die,,, but they might as well be dead.

Look at all the ICOs that did raise money, you think they got it from individual investors? No, mostly people got it through a few big whales who were promised all kinds of bonuses. Nobody wants to throw away btc or eth anymore these days,,, they are tired of losing to dumpers and hunters and speculators.
now investors must be more selective in investing in new projects, ICO currently has lost a lot of investor confidence. and maybe the ICO could die or change to other investment methods, hoping that if IEO could replace ICO, but I personally prefer ICO, but in terms of security, IEO might be superior, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: truckythin on November 28, 2019, 09:40:17 AM
I think that ICO projects are not going to die, but the time for their activities is now very inappropriate. Now there is a general decline in the cryptocurrency market, altcoins have been particularly affected and this has a very negative effect on the emergence of new ICO projects. Also, the problem of a high level of fraud among ICO projects has not yet been resolved. In this regard, investor activity is now extremely low. When these two problems are resolved, ICO projects will again become popular for investment.
Many ICO not going to die but almost investor not trusted any more with ICO investment project, have thousand kinds of ICO always lower price after listing on market and many ICO delay more than two years or three years for listing make investor tired and resign from ICO investing, now the have invest with altcoin ready on market or bitcoin investment.
The main thing with ICOs projects the cannot guarantee their token will be list on any exchanges after the release. Some of the ICOs projects are died before it get to list on exchanges that why they got not many investors. Who want to put their investment only on their promises.
There's nobody who will invest a bulk amount of money in ICO now. This form of crowdfunding is nearly dead. There aren't also any positive news at the last time about ICO regulating that can attract a lot of investors again. People need safety guarantees of their assets. ICO can't provide it anymore.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: doomloop on November 30, 2019, 06:50:48 PM
If anyone can name a successful ICO I would be very surprised.

Ferrum Network had a successful ICO. But if we consider the success percentage which is very minimal, it might just be safe to say that ICOs are dead. Even the IEO frenzy is fast waning out. Perhaps, investors have understood that IEOs don't really mean they won't loose money but only a more secure means of investing into a project.
Initial Coin Offerings are indeed not working anymore. People are getting attracted towards IEOs and these are the new trend. Fer rum Network being a good one, still makes a little percentage overall. At present, most of them are not worthy of trust. These have become a part of past now. In case of IEOs, the fear of scam decreases due to the involvement of exchange, but only renowned exchanges can be trusted.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: baeva2 on November 30, 2019, 08:06:20 PM
Currently, indeed, the popularity of ICO has faded. Investors deceived by fraudulent projects are also suspicious of the IEO, as exchanges do not fully guarantee that the project will develop in the future. I think that everything will change after the situation on the cryptocurrency market improves and more attention is paid to monitoring projects.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: RussiaUkraineTranslation on November 30, 2019, 11:08:11 PM
ICOs have slowed down, now people are launching IEOs on exchanges like ecxx.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: itos84 on December 01, 2019, 01:44:53 AM
Dont know where you are getting your sources but if you look at ICO bench there is a really increased in ICO activity and successful projects. If just that today you really have to have a good project and in 2017 anyone with just a website could do an ICO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: ancafe on December 01, 2019, 02:51:40 AM
Dont know where you are getting your sources but if you look at ICO bench there is a really increased in ICO activity and successful projects. If just that today you really have to have a good project and in 2017 anyone with just a website could do an ICO.
Well, maybe, for now, there are still a lot of ICOs that have just been developed, but from year to year, I strongly agree that it has diminished. even with IEO, seeing the development of ICO in 2017-2018, makes me think that the number of ICOs developed this year is quite large. I hope everything will return to normal in 2020 especially after halving.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: gundala on December 03, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Ico seems to be not very effective in attracting investors. I think this is influenced by IEO which gives greater trust. Especially if the IEO is on a global exchange, surely investors will be more interested in investing in the midst of this saturated market.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: tiptopgemdotcom on December 03, 2019, 11:45:41 PM
ICOs are dead because of the greedy investors scam projects which eliminated the chances of good projects with scamming the other people's money. It is surprising to see a surviving scam project in bear market but hard to believe it will stay long in the CMC list.


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Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: meliodas on December 04, 2019, 02:43:50 AM
A new age has begun. The ICOs are now dead and the IEOs is starting to take over the gateway of investing. Even though there is already a new way of investing, it doesn't give an assurance that the projects are better because there are still IEOs that are scams and there is still a few number of projects that are actually useful and better.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: X-ray on December 04, 2019, 04:43:30 AM
Ico seems to be not very effective in attracting investors. I think this is influenced by IEO which gives greater trust. Especially if the IEO is on a global exchange, surely investors will be more interested in investing in the midst of this saturated market.
ICO is actually still alive but just doesn't attract attention that much nowadays. As you said, it's because the influence of IEO that guarantees the legitimacy of a project although only if the IEO comes from a large exchanges. However, nothing last forever IEO market is now becoming more stable aswell and not as hyped as it was before.

I just think that the market is now becoming saturated again after the hype has gone and we need some breakthrough but it seems that the whole market will just stay like this considering that the market also at the same time become a lot mature and not just throwing whatever crappy project that exist into the market.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: RussiaUkraineTranslation on December 04, 2019, 12:18:21 PM
ICOs have been eclipsed in the form of IEOs on exchanges like Binance, Latoken, and ecxx.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Kasabus on December 05, 2019, 02:39:18 PM
ICOs have been eclipsed in the form of IEOs on exchanges like Binance, Latoken, and ecxx.

I agree with Binance as they have a good reputation, but LA Token sorry but I don't trust the exchange, also about ecxx, I am not familiar with the exchange, probably a new one as I think it was just recently listed in https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/ecxx/ (no data yet).


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: felissss500@gmail.com on December 05, 2019, 03:00:43 PM
projects continued to appear and quite successfully entered the market with their coin, not surprising. There was a large stock of market capitalization, and it gradually decreased - which is reflected in your chart.
and no one expected a prolonged market depression) everyone made plans and hopes
when the cryptocurrency rate goes up again (maybe not very soon), then the projects will appear again, maybe absolutely not the same as they were in 2017-18


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: BlackboardTrade524 on December 06, 2019, 01:39:58 PM
People invest money to Ico or IEo or presale to get a better return. But nowadays, you will never find (except some IEO on Binance, Okex or Kucoin etc) Ico or ieo which was good. Sometime investors lose 50-75% of their capital by investing to the said icos or ieos. If you compare some projects by taking from reputed ico trackers, you will see the opening price is 75% lower than the initial price. So, why people will invest. On the other hand, many low quality icos are being offered to people or a project with an existing idea is being offered. So, people are not getting interested to invest on them.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: bittick on December 23, 2019, 12:01:40 AM
People invest money to Ico or IEo or presale to get a better return. But nowadays, you will never find (except some IEO on Binance, Okex or Kucoin etc) Ico or ieo which was good. Sometime investors lose 50-75% of their capital by investing to the said icos or ieos. If you compare some projects by taking from reputed ico trackers, you will see the opening price is 75% lower than the initial price. So, why people will invest. On the other hand, many low quality icos are being offered to people or a project with an existing idea is being offered. So, people are not getting interested to invest on them.
that's true and that will decrease the possibility for the such ico to recover its price from bottom or it's almost impossible to do that. We have seen so many times people are still say if they are putting their believes on ico but it doesn't work right now. IEO is much more preferable.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: HabiebRiziq on December 23, 2019, 05:46:54 AM
if there is a good project doing ICO, it also will not get much attention from investors if they do not support advertising in large media. because marketing like that is also very necessary. It's the same as IEO, even though the project is good, but not using a good and large exchange, it just won't help their marketing.
that is not a reason why ICO / IEO is decreasing from year to year. I think this is because investors are not so interested anymore in the ICO and IEO projects, so many developers don't want to make IEO / ICO anymore. in addition, many scammers also have this effect. I just hope that projects can re-emerge as the bitcoin price recovers due to the upcoming halving.
You could say now this new project is very difficult to attract investors to invest, we know this is caused by scammers who then make investors hesitate to invest because they have experienced failures before and this is a natural thing if investors become hesitant to invest and then impact on other projects that ultimately fail because of not achieving softcap, maybe when bitcoin is recovered, new projects will be able to become profitable again.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Sembadapuja on December 25, 2019, 05:07:45 PM
There are some shady exchanges that are listing IEOs with zero research and analysis just for a small fee but most of the people are now aware of such practice. Only the IEOs issued from a promising exchange are getting attraction while other are not fully funded. Maybe, ICOs have drop tremendously and that study cannot be based on rumors and clearly is a fact. But there are still number of projects that resort to ICOs and yet to still survive.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Jiyens3 on December 25, 2019, 05:53:03 PM
if there is a good project doing ICO, it also will not get much attention from investors if they do not support advertising in large media. because marketing like that is also very necessary. It's the same as IEO, even though the project is good, but not using a good and large exchange, it just won't help their marketing.
that is not a reason why ICO / IEO is decreasing from year to year. I think this is because investors are not so interested anymore in the ICO and IEO projects, so many developers don't want to make IEO / ICO anymore. in addition, many scammers also have this effect. I just hope that projects can re-emerge as the bitcoin price recovers due to the upcoming halving.
yes, beside many scammers affect there are many reason such when the coins listing on the market the coins price lower than ico price its makes investor lose their fund. people start to leave ico and do not want to invest then make ico really die.....i think ico die for while, and will replace with another event who more profitable



Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: gensol on December 25, 2019, 06:09:51 PM
ICOs are not really dead, this shift cleared a path for more legit projects to raise funds for their project development. Without this new decline in ICOs investment investors would've yet be investing in projects without doing research.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Chainsmokers on December 28, 2019, 07:03:38 AM
I think that ICO projects are not going to die, but the time for their activities is now very inappropriate. Now there is a general decline in the cryptocurrency market, altcoins have been particularly affected and this has a very negative effect on the emergence of new ICO projects. Also, the problem of a high level of fraud among ICO projects has not yet been resolved. In this regard, investor activity is now extremely low. When these two problems are resolved, ICO projects will again become popular for investment.

ICO projects may never die,,, but they might as well be dead.

Look at all the ICOs that did raise money, you think they got it from individual investors? No, mostly people got it through a few big whales who were promised all kinds of bonuses. Nobody wants to throw away btc or eth anymore these days,,, they are tired of losing to dumpers and hunters and speculators.
now investors must be more selective in investing in new projects, ICO currently has lost a lot of investor confidence. and maybe the ICO could die or change to other investment methods, hoping that if IEO could replace ICO, but I personally prefer ICO, but in terms of security, IEO might be superior, in my opinion.

If we see lately many ICO projects have failed because of not achieving softcap due to lack of investor interest to invest in new projects, this is also due to the number of scammers which then made investors hesitant to invest in the new project and I think this It is normal that many investors begin not interested in putting their money into the new project. For me personally, what investors need is security in their investments so they don't lose the money they have invested.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: stephanirain on December 28, 2019, 07:24:12 AM
ICOs have morphed into IEO and the change is for good. The number of ICOs/IEOs too have dramatically decreased as investors have become more concerned about their investments. There are some shady exchanges that are listing IEOs with zero research and analysis just for a small fee but most of the people are now aware of such practice. Only the IEOs issued from a promising exchange are getting attraction while other are not fully funded. This is making the project team more dedicated to make their project look promising and actually working to prove their authenticity. It doesn't mean it would filter every scam but it would filter the most of them.

Investors main concern right now is how they can secure profits. The usefulness of the project is just a bonus because if the project did not meet the expectations of the investors, it won't survive the market in the end. ICO is constantly dying while IEO can offer for sense of security for the side of the investors. These shift had lead to smarter investors and critical decisions. Hopefully, everything cans still work out and the prices will recover soon in the coming new decade.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: South Park on December 29, 2019, 04:37:18 PM
Even after the onset of the bear market in January 2018, ICOs were still happening at a rate
of well over a hundred each month, but by 2019 the flow of projects had dwindled to almost nothing.

ICO PROCEEDS DROP TO $338M..

According to figures from cryptocurrency analytics firm LongHash and published on October 1,
ICOs are no longer profitable. They may even disappear completely in 2020, said researchers.
https://bitcoinist.com/icos-will-disappear-in-2020-as-data-shows-95-funding-decline/

But here on BitcoinTalk we see new [ANN] threads and [BOUNTIES]
Is this just smoke and mirrors or does this forum know something researchers do not?
The forum is not doing anything, this is the most popular forum when it comes to cryptocurrencies and a huge amount of money moves in it every day so it is completely understandable that new developers want to promote their coin in the forum with the hope that some wealthy members will notice it and support them, icos will most likely disappear at some point, it was a good idea and it launched some important coins in the market but since then it has been abused by scammers and we cannot tolerate that any longer.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: BartS on January 07, 2020, 03:19:13 AM
Perhaps we can say the ICOs is dead, but we won't know if the ICOs will be able to rise again in the future. But indeed, the ICOs has suffered to meet the investor right now, and perhaps they are still trying to survive at the moment. But perhaps the situation will be better in the future for the ICOs, so the ICOs will be able to return in the future and give the investor the profit.
It depends on what you think when people say that icos are dead, if people think that icos are going to disappear and we are never going to see them being somewhat successful in the future then they are wrong.

But if people are expecting that we are going to see something similar to what happened in 2017 in which it seemed that everyone was involved in icos and we saw an incredible growth in that market then we may say that icos are really dead because we are never going to see that again.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: spike420211 on January 09, 2020, 07:25:53 PM
Well for me, ICOs are now dead. All great developers aren't interested in developing good projects since the cryptomarkets isn't performing good since the price of bitcoin affects the cryptocurrency economy greatly the IEOs is basically pump and dump scheme most of its projects are shit only few projects in IEO are promising but i doubt that it will prosper.

Quite controversial statements about the current market. In your opinion, the developers, seeing how bitcoin has grown over 10 years from zero to $ 7000 (at the current rate), believe that it’s better not to continue next? I doubt it. Good projects continue to improve and develop new products, this is in no way connected with the speculations that occur on the market. Even if the price drops for $ 1000 per bitcoin, serious guys all will continue their development exactly because they believe that the future is not in money but in the blockchain.



Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: swivel1983@gmail.com on January 09, 2020, 09:41:43 PM
Perhaps we can say the ICOs is dead, but we won't know if the ICOs will be able to rise again in the future. But indeed, the ICOs has suffered to meet the investor right now, and perhaps they are still trying to survive at the moment. But perhaps the situation will be better in the future for the ICOs, so the ICOs will be able to return in the future and give the investor the profit.
I don't think the ICO will come back again. This direction has almost outlived its usefulness. I believe that the ICO will change, or it will be replaced by another way of raising funds.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Kasabus on January 09, 2020, 11:10:14 PM
Perhaps we can say the ICOs is dead, but we won't know if the ICOs will be able to rise again in the future. But indeed, the ICOs has suffered to meet the investor right now, and perhaps they are still trying to survive at the moment. But perhaps the situation will be better in the future for the ICOs, so the ICOs will be able to return in the future and give the investor the profit.
I don't think the ICO will come back again. This direction has almost outlived its usefulness. I believe that the ICO will change, or it will be replaced by another way of raising funds.
It will be replaced by the IEO, raising funds through exchange is way more safer than trusting a team to hold and raise the money, at least there's a trusted middle man which is the exchange which we can go after if the team will scam and they understand that also because it could affect their reputation badly.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: SlimShadyMmp on January 09, 2020, 11:33:26 PM
Most altcoin markets are really struggling to survive this market so basically with a market like that you cant expect newer project because there are developed ones that are basically not doing good and confidence in investments is really down due to the recent losses most investors got hit by Maybe when the market picks-up and there is more activities and higher prices of some altcoins


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: BartS on January 11, 2020, 03:17:22 AM
Perhaps we can say the ICOs is dead, but we won't know if the ICOs will be able to rise again in the future. But indeed, the ICOs has suffered to meet the investor right now, and perhaps they are still trying to survive at the moment. But perhaps the situation will be better in the future for the ICOs, so the ICOs will be able to return in the future and give the investor the profit.
I don't think the ICO will come back again. This direction has almost outlived its usefulness. I believe that the ICO will change, or it will be replaced by another way of raising funds.
Icos have been replaced already by ieos, and while ieos had a certain period in which they were very popular we are experimenting once again with ieos what happened with icos.

People are losing confidence in ieos because they are not performing as expected, and while this may surprise some investors it doesn't really surprise me because the only thing that has changed is the way the developers received the money from investors but the projects behind that process have not changed at all.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: tambok on January 11, 2020, 03:32:29 AM

Icos have been replaced already by ieos, and while ieos had a certain period in which they were very popular we are experimenting once again with ieos what happened with icos.

People are losing confidence in ieos because they are not performing as expected, and while this may surprise some investors it doesn't really surprise me because the only thing that has changed is the way the developers received the money from investors but the projects behind that process have not changed at all.

IEO's still not a guarantee that they are legit replacement of ICOs so we should still extra careful of IEOs as most scammers are also doing this in those exchanges that list IEO at low listing fee, so they are taking granted for it, also does not guarantee that if they are legit we will have more income because it still depends on their project.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: ije07 on January 11, 2020, 03:50:54 AM
If seen from the graph above, it shows that the ICO project from January 2018 to January 2020, the level of ICO projects has declined. but i don't think that the ico project will die. the fact is in this forum or BOUNTY still exists, even there are still many new projects that have appeared, it's just that not all the projects that still appear can be profitable for investment.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: deathcode on January 11, 2020, 04:00:44 AM

Icos have been replaced already by ieos, and while ieos had a certain period in which they were very popular we are experimenting once again with ieos what happened with icos.

People are losing confidence in ieos because they are not performing as expected, and while this may surprise some investors it doesn't really surprise me because the only thing that has changed is the way the developers received the money from investors but the projects behind that process have not changed at all.

IEO's still not a guarantee that they are legit replacement of ICOs so we should still extra careful of IEOs as most scammers are also doing this in those exchanges that list IEO at low listing fee, so they are taking granted for it, also does not guarantee that if they are legit we will have more income because it still depends on their project.
at least we can see the seriousness of the project that will sell IEO. logically, there are no good projects that are willing to have their coins traded on bad exchanges. although with expensive fees if they are serious about looking for investors I think it is important for developers to consider the best exchange. at least it reduces the risk of a scammer.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: TheClownSong on January 11, 2020, 06:59:03 AM
If seen from the graph above, it shows that the ICO project from January 2018 to January 2020, the level of ICO projects has declined. but i don't think that the ico project will die. the fact is in this forum or BOUNTY still exists, even there are still many new projects that have appeared, it's just that not all the projects that still appear can be profitable for investment.

ICOs will still exist but their numbers will decrease significantly. Investors will prefer to invest in IEO especially IEO organized by large exchangers. The large number of ICOs that fail to reach the target or scam, affecting the interests of investors and investors will definitely choose the safe path of IEO in large exchangers


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Pinkris128 on January 11, 2020, 07:19:06 AM
If seen from the graph above, it shows that the ICO project from January 2018 to January 2020, the level of ICO projects has declined. but i don't think that the ico project will die. the fact is in this forum or BOUNTY still exists, even there are still many new projects that have appeared, it's just that not all the projects that still appear can be profitable for investment.

ICOs will still exist but their numbers will decrease significantly. Investors will prefer to invest in IEO especially IEO organized by large exchangers. The large number of ICOs that fail to reach the target or scam, affecting the interests of investors and investors will definitely choose the safe path of IEO in large exchangers
Indeed. There are only few numbers of ICO projects  that exist today because most of them are scams and others are unsuccessful that they didn't reach their soft and hardcap. I think investors still doesn't prefer IEO projects because they don't trust IEO duue to KYC policies and IEO is still low in exchanges.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: biddicoin on January 11, 2020, 07:31:06 AM
Well for me, ICOs are now dead. All great developers aren't interested in developing good projects since the cryptomarkets isn't performing good since the price of bitcoin affects the cryptocurrency economy greatly the IEOs is basically pump and dump scheme most of its projects are shit only few projects in IEO are promising but i doubt that it will prosper.

Quite controversial statements about the current market. In your opinion, the developers, seeing how bitcoin has grown over 10 years from zero to $ 7000 (at the current rate), believe that it’s better not to continue next? I doubt it. Good projects continue to improve and develop new products, this is in no way connected with the speculations that occur on the market. Even if the price drops for $ 1000 per bitcoin, serious guys all will continue their development exactly because they believe that the future is not in money but in the blockchain.


to me, ICO is dead. but developing new or entire project, still happen.

There are fundrasing systems in cryptocurrency. ICO is just one of them. Dev still can use others fundraising system
IEO gets more hype right now. I think IEO would change ICO era.

if you think IEO is suck based on price, then you must say that top 10 altcoin are suck too


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: bobyhodob on January 11, 2020, 07:36:50 AM
Not sure all ico are dead i saw some ico still exist but yes its totally difrent with 2 years ago not too many people are interested in this.
IEO maybe is better but sure you need to have knowledge about what IEO you will take a part, both have more risk for now just becarefull


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: affandi on January 11, 2020, 07:45:44 AM
the reason is clear, too many ICO projects have ended in scams, and made many investors leave the ICO zone and don't want to throw their money there anymore. At the moment there are many investors who prefer IEO, but I think IEO still has shortcomings, because some SCAM projects are still being found. This is of course a problem and should be an important learning for project developers in choosing the IEO exchange, this is all for the future of their coins / tokens.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Ferris419 on January 11, 2020, 12:13:47 PM
If seen from the graph above, it shows that the ICO project from January 2018 to January 2020, the level of ICO projects has declined. but I don't think that the ico project will die. the fact is in this forum or BOUNTY still exists, even there are still many new projects that have appeared, it's just that not all the projects that still appear can be profitable for investment.

Soon or later the ICO market will be dead! There will be no time for ICO boosting once again! People taught a very good lesson by investing in ICOs in 2018 to now! Most of the ICO was scammed or the coin price got huge dump after kisting on an exchange, it's mean no profit at all! so, people won't spend the hard-worked money in ICO shit anymore! You are right that some projects are still coming with the ICO plan,  but you may research about that project, they are not reaching money, even the soft cap!


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: asyakashi on January 13, 2020, 11:26:02 PM
Investors need certainty in investing, and ICO does not provide that.
then present IEO, another form of ICO.
I think there must be new regulations to protect investors from losses, so that ICO is more secure and reliable. maybe ICO is not dead but is dying.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Twinkledoe on January 13, 2020, 11:36:24 PM
Investors need certainty in investing, and ICO does not provide that.
then present IEO, another form of ICO.
I think there must be new regulations to protect investors from losses, so that ICO is more secure and reliable. maybe ICO is not dead but is dying.

Regulations is really hard to implement in cryptocurrencies. Since everyone can create their own project and do what they want to do, you can't avoid the proliferation of these crap projects. ICOs are dying as investors realized that most of them are scam or worthless. There are still projects who are holding their respective ICOs but very rare of them that are successful in raising funds. IEOs is no better, you can't assure of their success as well.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: tracyhayley on January 13, 2020, 11:43:59 PM
i think they're dead. maybe they run out of ideas. some ICOs in the last year almost have the same project ideas like make an exchanger, lending platform, etc. most of them are scams, so most of the investors are not trust the ICO anymore. then the ICO is dead now.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: humanitee on January 13, 2020, 11:47:02 PM
ICO projects began to be abandoned since entering 2018. Besides due to the bear market factor which makes the market conditions become quiet, enthusiasts, ICO has also been considered a scam project and started to be replaced by IEO.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: asyakashi on January 14, 2020, 11:10:49 PM
Investors need certainty in investing, and ICO does not provide that.
then present IEO, another form of ICO.
I think there must be new regulations to protect investors from losses, so that ICO is more secure and reliable. maybe ICO is not dead but is dying.

Regulations is really hard to implement in cryptocurrencies. Since everyone can create their own project and do what they want to do, you can't avoid the proliferation of these crap projects. ICOs are dying as investors realized that most of them are scam or worthless. There are still projects who are holding their respective ICOs but very rare of them that are successful in raising funds. IEOs is no better, you can't assure of their success as well.
this means that ICO does not have a good future.
just waiting for time to be destroyed, we all miss ico in 2017.Both IEO and ICO must work hard to convince investors.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Endikadija on January 15, 2020, 12:10:17 AM
ICO projects began to be abandoned since entering 2018. Besides due to the bear market factor which makes the market conditions become quiet, enthusiasts, ICO has also been considered a scam project and started to be replaced by IEO.
I think that the bear market doesn't give a lot of contribution to make ico to be abandoned but the scammers should be the main reason why so many people have started to abandon the ico in the past. We know that more than 95% icos on the market were scam and it has also increased a lot until the end of 2018. In 2019 so many scam IEOs were also appearing to the market.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: qomariah95 on January 15, 2020, 08:29:11 AM
Entering 2018 until now, ICO has indeed experienced a decline with many cases of fraud against investors. Many suffered losses in the ICO, and we can be sure that in 2020 the ICO will really disappear or die. No matter how good the project was born, still when doing ICO it will be difficult to get an injection of funds for project development.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Furryball on January 15, 2020, 08:40:09 AM
ICO lacks trust that's why so many stop believing in them, as you can see no one is talking about them anymore, even new projects don't use ICO to raise funds anymore, it's something of the past, look at IEO from binance or top exchanges, they are bringing profits for investors


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Btc_1856 on January 15, 2020, 08:50:50 AM
ICO lacks trust that's why so many stop believing in them, as you can see no one is talking about them anymore, even new projects don't use ICO to raise funds anymore, it's something of the past, look at IEO from binance or top exchanges, they are bringing profits for investors

Yes, ICO is a complete waste of investing our money because we have seen a lot of failed projects which most of the people have lost their investment with these fake ICO's. This makes many people lose their faith about the ICO's that's why most of the people showing interest towards IEO's in potential exchanges.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Andrews193 on January 15, 2020, 09:19:14 AM
Entering 2018 until now, ICO has indeed experienced a decline with many cases of fraud against investors. Many suffered losses in the ICO, and we can be sure that in 2020 the ICO will really disappear or die. No matter how good the project was born, still when doing ICO it will be difficult to get an injection of funds for project development.
It is always the tragic outcome of this investment industry, one day, something newer and better will change old technologies, outdated options, with the strong appearance and security contracts of IEO, ICO have disappeared in the past few months, only a few projects are still calling for ICO but these are probably the last projects. ICO have lost so much confidence as you said, to fix this mistake, they need to leave in peace, which is also the meaning of the title in this topic, death and revival in a different form, helping to make projects better for investors


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: elisabetheva on January 15, 2020, 09:19:48 AM
ICO lacks trust that's why so many stop believing in them, as you can see no one is talking about them anymore, even new projects don't use ICO to raise funds anymore, it's something of the past, look at IEO from binance or top exchanges, they are bringing profits for investors
want to change the form to IEO or whatever if there are no clear rules and no ethics to make changes. then it will certainly be an obstacle again someday the same as the current ICO. there must be a fundamental change and there must be cooperation among all of them so that the behavior of people who want to profit for a moment can be stopped. the way is to collaborate and provide information on a new project that is growing is a scam or not, because giving information to each other will make those who want to cheat themselves will disappear by themselves due to loss.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: shiming on January 15, 2020, 09:28:24 AM
The current low tide of ICO may be directly related to the funds in the crypto market. Affected by the bear market in the crypto market, funds on the market have shrunk. The low tide of ICO is normal. When the market returns to normal, I think the ICO will still be lively. After all, there are still many in the market For greedy people, only under legal restrictions, ICOs go formal, so that funds will come in.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: julius caesar on January 15, 2020, 09:37:38 AM
ICO is gone because of projects that is scam before. Project manager decided to stop it because it might not succeed since almost all of the investors does not trust ICO anymore. So for sure it will never gonna go back again. We must try to play around the current coins that we have since those are trusted coins.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: letyouearn on January 15, 2020, 10:36:47 AM
ICOs are almost dead now, that's obvious even without any graphs. Hope the things will change when the altcoin season comes. Many good projects are delaying their tokensales now, waiting for better times.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: tianglistrik on January 15, 2020, 10:42:30 AM
ICOs are almost dead now, that's obvious even without any graphs. Hope the things will change when the altcoin season comes. Many good projects are delaying their tokensales now, waiting for better times.
I also think this way, that projects that have good management will refrain from launching their products because the current market still does not provide much benefit for them, maybe the investment will not be in the form of ICOs and they will follow a new trend to get investors.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: superving on January 15, 2020, 10:50:03 AM
Much better if they will rest for long long time cause investors dont have any interest to put thier money on ico projects because most them we all know are scam.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: angrybirdy on January 15, 2020, 11:02:19 AM
ICOs are almost dead now, that's obvious even without any graphs. Hope the things will change when the altcoin season comes. Many good projects are delaying their tokensales now, waiting for better times.
I also think this way, that projects that have good management will refrain from launching their products because the current market still does not provide much benefit for them, maybe the investment will not be in the form of ICOs and they will follow a new trend to get investors.
Aside from the current situation we have in the market right now, investors are not so easy to invest like they were before. They tend to be more cautious and it is one of the reason why ICO never succeed after so many scam projects appear.
You mean a new crowdfunding that will be the new trend? It is possible, if it only helps to bring back the confidence of investors from investing in coin offering again.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: b1boy on January 15, 2020, 05:27:45 PM
As I would see it, not all ICOs kicked the bucket in light of the fact that there were some that I knew had the option to accomplish the delicate top objective contrasted with certain activities that did IEO. It may be hard to accomplish the hard top objective when economic situations are bad but rather it requires another undertaking that is acceptable and has an association with a notable organization so investors trust in ICO returns


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: valuater on January 15, 2020, 05:35:45 PM
As I would see it, not all ICOs kicked the bucket in light of the fact that there were some that I knew had the option to accomplish the delicate top objective contrasted with certain activities that did IEO. It may be hard to accomplish the hard top objective when economic situations are bad but rather it requires another undertaking that is acceptable and has an association with a notable organization so investors trust in ICO returns
if there is a successful ico at the moment I think it's difficult friends, because for years ico has been damaged by people who do scams and something like this, and this makes me think it's not easy to restore confidence in this type of offer by ICO but I don't know, maybe this year will there is a successful ICO but as far as I know last year the performance of the ICO has drastically decreased compared to 2018.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: BartS on January 16, 2020, 04:43:37 AM

Icos have been replaced already by ieos, and while ieos had a certain period in which they were very popular we are experimenting once again with ieos what happened with icos.

People are losing confidence in ieos because they are not performing as expected, and while this may surprise some investors it doesn't really surprise me because the only thing that has changed is the way the developers received the money from investors but the projects behind that process have not changed at all.

IEO's still not a guarantee that they are legit replacement of ICOs so we should still extra careful of IEOs as most scammers are also doing this in those exchanges that list IEO at low listing fee, so they are taking granted for it, also does not guarantee that if they are legit we will have more income because it still depends on their project.
at least we can see the seriousness of the project that will sell IEO. logically, there are no good projects that are willing to have their coins traded on bad exchanges. although with expensive fees if they are serious about looking for investors I think it is important for developers to consider the best exchange. at least it reduces the risk of a scammer.
There are many ieos taking place in bad exchanges and many people are participating in them so that is not really a protection and even if an ico takes place in a good exchange that still does not guarantee anything.

At best those ieos will be slightly better than icos but that is all, even if those coins are not scams you are risking your money in something which has a huge failure rate and in which most investors have lost any interest as they have lost too much money to similar projects.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: ontrackk on January 18, 2020, 11:33:03 PM
Perhaps we can say the ICOs is dead, but we won't know if the ICOs will be able to rise again in the future. But indeed, the ICOs has suffered to meet the investor right now, and perhaps they are still trying to survive at the moment. But perhaps the situation will be better in the future for the ICOs, so the ICOs will be able to return in the future and give the investor the profit.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: sidkz on January 21, 2020, 01:40:25 AM
maybe some projects decided to wait for a more stable market
if no one is investing their money now why should they launch an ICO


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: alan2here on January 21, 2020, 03:11:03 AM
Perhaps we can say the ICOs is dead, but we won't know if the ICOs will be able to rise again in the future. But indeed, the ICOs has suffered to meet the investor right now, and perhaps they are still trying to survive at the moment. But perhaps the situation will be better in the future for the ICOs, so the ICOs will be able to return in the future and give the investor the profit.

ICO will never be able to revive as before because people are feeling very bored and do not have any projects that can bring good returns to investors. Currently, the popular form of investment that people are interested in is IEO because this is a new way to make money in this market. There may still be some risks, but this is the only way to stay away from scam projects in the near future.

Personally, I consider IEO an upgraded version of ICO and hope that this form of investment will be mentioned even more because last year there were so many successful projects.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: b1boy on January 21, 2020, 04:01:27 PM
What is happening now is that there are scam projects everywhere and  those with pitiful thoughts or blockchain innovation information are presently out and the not many that have the genuine information on how things work are the ones thinking of ventures now. And most new projects are copycats and stealing other people’s ideas


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: cutesgirl on January 21, 2020, 04:11:57 PM
maybe some projects decided to wait for a more stable market
if no one is investing their money now why should they launch an ICO
It is the same funds in BTC or ETH amount but the fiat rates are half of the previously invested amounts. The rates have dropped a lot and the chances decrease for the new projects to launch the new token sale. The lack of perspective makes it hard to convince crypto investors to invest further.
After increasing with lower price of ethreum many ICO dead because they received payment platform using ethereum and have higher payment fee for listing coin on exchange market and make ICO have lower price after listing, but when ethereum as payment platform stable with higher price I think have possibility to make ICO success on higher price.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: aomakun on January 21, 2020, 04:21:58 PM
maybe some projects decided to wait for a more stable market
if no one is investing their money now why should they launch an ICO
It is the same funds in BTC or ETH amount but the fiat rates are half of the previously invested amounts. The rates have dropped a lot and the chances decrease for the new projects to launch the new token sale. The lack of perspective makes it hard to convince crypto investors to invest further.
After increasing with lower price of ethreum many ICO dead because they received payment platform using ethereum and have higher payment fee for listing coin on exchange market and make ICO have lower price after listing, but when ethereum as payment platform stable with higher price I think have possibility to make ICO success on higher price.

I don't think that eth prices affect the ICO growth process, so when you open up some of the existing history that when eth reaches high prices there are some projects that use the eth platform don't achieve success. so think about their platform, not the eth price.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: BartS on February 01, 2020, 03:21:05 AM
maybe some projects decided to wait for a more stable market
if no one is investing their money now why should they launch an ICO
A project that is really good does not really have any reason to wait, they are going to get investors if what they are proposing makes sense and they have a chance of becoming successful in the future.

The only projects that are waiting for things to improve are those that have no chance of becoming successful on their own and depend on the market to be in the middle of a bubble to get some kind of success and it is obvious that if you are a serious investors you should not ever invest in those projects.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: Anonylz on February 01, 2020, 07:01:15 AM
maybe some projects decided to wait for a more stable market
if no one is investing their money now why should they launch an ICO
A project that is really good does not really have any reason to wait, they are going to get investors if what they are proposing makes sense and they have a chance of becoming successful in the future.

The only projects that are waiting for things to improve are those that have no chance of becoming successful on their own and depend on the market to be in the middle of a bubble to get some kind of success and it is obvious that if you are a serious investors you should not ever invest in those projects.

Couldn't agree more, a good project that actually has the right ingredients to succeed don't necessarily need to wait for the right moment to lunch because one people can see the potential in that project they are eager to jump in, so why prolong sale or look for the right time if the project is sound enough?

Take Gram project for example, that project was heavily supported by investors even when the market was not very friendly, because the potential of project was high, this is a solid project that will give good return of investment, any good project will have investors no the condition of market.


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: b1boy on February 01, 2020, 08:22:52 AM
I belive this bear market in the last year is to a great extent answerable for the decrease in ICOs aside the way that numerous ICOs have ended up being big scams and IEOs are not seeming to be as well known either in any event, for the enormous trades. I think the crypto market will decide how well a tasks token deal will go


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: mdzahed134 on February 01, 2020, 12:27:52 PM
Not sure all ico are dead i saw some ico still exist but yes its totally difrent with 2 years ago not too many people are interested in this.
IEO maybe is better but sure you need to have knowledge about what IEO you will take a part, both have more risk for now just becarefull

Right, Many ico's pre sale & private sell on live in the market but at the end if success doesn’t come.
EZ365,Tycoin,SwapZilla,Xcard,Hawk those projects started pre sale without IEO still any single project can't start trade in market. This is the condition of ico projects. Investors demotivated to invest ico projects. IEO is some better role play when it was successfully created hype among investors but day by day it’s going to disappear.           


Title: Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects?
Post by: thesmallgod on February 01, 2020, 05:30:23 PM
It is becoming unsustainable to run ICO. This is because many people that were investing before are no more investing and new investors are now considering investing in some high top exchange platform that will offer IEO. Even most projects rely on the fund contributed by the investors, they still make do with some money from their pocket to develop their platform and for marketing. All these monies will actually be accrued to a loss. Some few ones that launch ICO could not even raise 10% of the soft cap not to talk of the lengthy period of time it even takes them to raise this few money. Many of them today are dead on arrival while some are still struggling to develop the project.