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Title: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: mantaxer on March 17, 2014, 11:14:19 AM
Interview with Bitkonan about how Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each


http://www.coinspectator.com/bitoin-could-worth-more-than-half-a-million-dollars-each/ (http://www.coinspectator.com/bitoin-could-worth-more-than-half-a-million-dollars-each/)


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: dreamspark on March 17, 2014, 11:59:56 AM
This is only likely if the $ collapses in my opinion but then half a million may only be enough to buy a small family car so its all relative.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: whtchocla7e on March 17, 2014, 12:07:07 PM
It could very well be worth half a dollar each.

There's just no way to tell.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: Stalker1337 on March 17, 2014, 12:12:12 PM
It's only speculation about price, doubt that, but around 1-2k$ seems more probable.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: Joshuar on March 17, 2014, 12:16:29 PM
It could very well be worth half a dollar each.

There's just no way to tell.

Exactly. I think the most Bitcoin will ever hit, is about $4,000 for one.




Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: davidpbrown on March 17, 2014, 12:22:29 PM
It'll be interesting to see if LTC gets traction and wide exposure to the same options that BTC offers. I wonder that if Bitcoin goes large then rather than BTC pwning the market share, it'll instead be shared amongst serious alt-coins and a large part of that market value I suspect will be more with the Bitcoin2.0 Protocols and 'Meta-coins' such as BitShares PTS; NXT; MasterCoin MSC; Counterparty XCP; end eventually Ethereum. Perhaps even less clear options like eMu and Ripple, though from what I can tell those last two are just water which supports function, rather than those being host to currency value.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: Beliathon on March 17, 2014, 12:25:11 PM
Half a million in today's dollar value? Not likely.

I could very well see 40- 50,000 of today's dollar value per coin though, within this decade.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: Joshuar on March 17, 2014, 12:27:31 PM
It'll be interesting to see if LTC gets traction and wide exposure to the same options that BTC offers. I wonder that if Bitcoin goes large then rather than BTC pwning the market share, it'll instead be shared amongst serious alt-coins and a large part of that market value I suspect will be more with the Bitcoin2.0 Protocols and 'Meta-coins' such as BitShares PTS; NXT; MasterCoin MSC; Counterparty XCP; end eventually Ethereum. Perhaps even less clear options like eMu and Ripple, though from what I can tell those last two are just water which supports function, rather than those being host to currency value.

eMunie  is the most promising coin out of all the 2nd gen coins.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: davidpbrown on March 17, 2014, 12:48:04 PM
eMunie  is the most promising coin out of all the 2nd gen coins.

Stating that without evidence, is like Ripple shrills stating theirs is the better one without being clear about why.

Perhaps you can answer my query in the eMunie forum (http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/1649-currency-character/) about the character of eMu, as it's not obvious whether eMu is simply the water in which everything sits - as Ripple appears to be; or whether it's meant to hold value like BTC, in which case it needs to be clear the way in which new eMu is created; or something else. The absence of a white paper doesn't help and the wiki doesn't have enough depth.. is eMunie to be open source even??


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: agusta on March 17, 2014, 12:57:14 PM
Interview with Bitkonan about how Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each


http://www.coinspectator.com/bitoin-could-worth-more-than-half-a-million-dollars-each/ (http://www.coinspectator.com/bitoin-could-worth-more-than-half-a-million-dollars-each/)

Russians begin to sell off US bonds on the large scale since Friday. I think price of Bitcoin will reflect it soon.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: SirWilliam on March 17, 2014, 01:44:52 PM
Interview with Bitkonan about how Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each


http://www.coinspectator.com/bitoin-could-worth-more-than-half-a-million-dollars-each/ (http://www.coinspectator.com/bitoin-could-worth-more-than-half-a-million-dollars-each/)

If that value is plausible then I would like to buy a "be", Pat. It goes between the "could" and the "worth."


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: S4VV4S on March 17, 2014, 02:20:05 PM
Interview with Bitkonan about how Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each


http://www.coinspectator.com/bitoin-could-worth-more-than-half-a-million-dollars-each/ (http://www.coinspectator.com/bitoin-could-worth-more-than-half-a-million-dollars-each/)

If that value is plausible then I would like to buy a "be", Pat. It goes between the "could" and the "worth."

Correct!

Also BTC will not reach that price.
At least not until 2025 or something.

I believe in BTC and I love it.
But it is too early for that price.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: Dalmar on March 17, 2014, 02:22:08 PM
It's far too easy to hack or gox people (high counter-party risk with exchanges) at the moment, no sane person would pay 500k for it.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: davidpbrown on March 17, 2014, 02:41:34 PM
It's far too easy to hack or gox people (high counter-party risk with exchanges) at the moment, no sane person would pay 500k for it.

That's an interesting thought. The risk might continue that people could lose their passwords and then prefer to spread the risk.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: podyx on March 17, 2014, 02:47:55 PM
interesting how people think the price can only go up to $4k or whatever

i mean

bill gates and wall street alone can pump the price up to $50k



Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: Neotox on March 17, 2014, 02:54:12 PM
i wish we see a price of 1.5K/BTC this year


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: wobber on March 17, 2014, 06:50:51 PM
i wish we see a price of 1.5K/BTC this year

i  wish we see a priced of 1.1 ever again.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: dyland on March 17, 2014, 07:47:17 PM
Hmmm 500K seems unlikely to me.

In the "future" is incredibly broad, well, it's infinitely broad, unless you don't subscribe to the cold expansion theory of the universe, or if you consider time to be indistinguishable from subatomic motion given that circumstance.

Even 50-100 years from now, the concepts of money and value may be totally different and media of exchange will be trinkets of a bygone era, which could be instead subsumed/governed by per-determined quantum computers calculating every possible circumstance/variable on earth to predict the future. Human agency--in any capacity financial or otherwise--may end up a fetish in that time frame.

Anyway, I digress.

I'll make a prediction that we will see 1200 again in the next 6 months, and then 2000 in 12 months, with a dip to 1000 after 12 months, and then a slow steady rise to double the value of gold, where it will stay for some time to come.

Total spitballing though....


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: Ibian on March 17, 2014, 08:24:47 PM
Tenfold increase every year gentlemen.

Right now it is probable that a lot of big money are buying coins outside the exchanges, directly from miners or large holders. Once that supply dries up, they will head to the exchanges and pump the price. For their own selfish benefit, with the side effect that the rest of us benefit as well.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: GigaCoin on March 17, 2014, 08:33:34 PM
eMunie  is the most promising coin out of all the 2nd gen coins.

Stating that without evidence, is like Ripple shrills stating theirs is the better one without being clear about why.

Perhaps you can answer my query in the eMunie forum (http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/1649-currency-character/) about the character of eMu, as it's not obvious whether eMu is simply the water in which everything sits - as Ripple appears to be; or whether it's meant to hold value like BTC, in which case it needs to be clear the way in which new eMu is created; or something else. The absence of a white paper doesn't help and the wiki doesn't have enough depth.. is eMunie to be open source even??

emunie is closed source not open source. It has alot of promise regardless, the client is great im a closed beta tester


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: marcovaldo on March 17, 2014, 09:17:02 PM
It's only speculation about price, doubt that, but around 1-2k$ seems more probable.


Not anytime soon I think...


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: passionsurf on March 17, 2014, 10:47:31 PM
... yeah or it could be worth a half million popsicle sticks.

Traders are attracted to BTC BECAUSE of the volatility. That is why I used to trade EUR/USD, because I had the most potential to make the most money ... but also the most potential to lose it all (which I did, of course).


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: spiderbrain on March 17, 2014, 11:06:07 PM
i wish we see a price of 1.5K/BTC this year

i  wish we see a priced of 1.1 ever again.
Buck up, it's not over yet!


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: aminorex on March 18, 2014, 02:04:37 AM
emunie is closed source not open source.

you had might as well hand your bank account over to the developers right now then.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: halfcab123 on March 22, 2014, 10:13:28 AM
I think you guys are missing the mark on proper valuation. It's not "how much is 1 bitcoin worth," it's how much is Bitcoin worth? How much is the market cap worth? When you look at it like that, it could very well be over a trillion $. If that is the case, it is possible that sometime in the near future, which is very likely; 1 mBTC will be the new BTC. In other words, We will have to change how we view commonly used denominations.

Saying, "Oh, well.. geez $1 million for 1 bitcoin, that just doesn't seem possible," That's because you are looking at it all wrong. If Bitcoin becomes a standard alternative to operating in dollars for "Brick&mortar" as well as "Online businesses," You can be your a$$, you will see a half trillion, to trillion dollar market or more.

I can see 1 Satoshi being worth a penny, can't you ?


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: Wilhelm on March 22, 2014, 10:17:01 AM
I think you guys are missing the mark on proper valuation. It's not "how much is 1 bitcoin worth," it's how much is Bitcoin worth? How much is the market cap worth? When you look at it like that, it could very well be over a trillion $. If that is the case, it is possible that sometime in the near future, which is very likely; 1 mBTC will be the new BTC. In other words, We will have to change how we view commonly used denominations.

Saying, "Oh, well.. geez $1 million for 1 bitcoin, that just doesn't seem possible," That's because you are looking at it all wrong. If Bitcoin becomes a standard alternative to operating in dollars for "Brick&mortar" as well as "Online businesses," You can be your a$$, you will see a half trillion, to trillion dollar market or more.

I can see 1 Satoshi being worth a penny, can't you ?

A trillion dollars sounds reasonable. I will probably be flying my G650 between my private islands way before that mark ;-)


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: fiddelingones on March 22, 2014, 10:29:21 AM
Saying, "Oh, well.. geez $1 million for 1 bitcoin, that just doesn't seem possible," That's because you are looking at it all wrong. If Bitcoin becomes a standard alternative to operating in dollars for "Brick&mortar" as well as "Online businesses," You can be your a$$, you will see a half trillion, to trillion dollar market or more.


This I agree, but $1 million for 1 bitcoin will be possible if there will be no reason to convert to dollars anymore.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: softron on March 22, 2014, 10:45:15 AM
Maybe in 50 years.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: S4VV4S on March 22, 2014, 11:09:11 AM
Saying, "Oh, well.. geez $1 million for 1 bitcoin, that just doesn't seem possible," That's because you are looking at it all wrong. If Bitcoin becomes a standard alternative to operating in dollars for "Brick&mortar" as well as "Online businesses," You can be your a$$, you will see a half trillion, to trillion dollar market or more.


This I agree, but $1 million for 1 bitcoin will be possible if there will be no reason to convert to dollars anymore.

If there is no reason to convert to dollar then dollar will slowly die at some point in the far future.
How are you going to price Bitcoin then?



Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: Wekkel on March 22, 2014, 11:49:18 AM
A worldwide 24/7 decentralized payment network is incredibly valuable. Why are people thinking about low values instead of zero? Its either zero in the long run or supergold. Still the best asymmetric bet out there.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: S4VV4S on March 22, 2014, 12:34:46 PM
OP, You know you can edit the title of your post don't you?  How can you spell bitcoin wrong it's the name of the forum???   ???

Wow, I didn't even notice that.
Nice catch ;)


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: CoinRocka on March 22, 2014, 12:44:43 PM
Bitcoin can cure AIDS...seriously!


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: Cyberlight on March 22, 2014, 12:53:20 PM
Bitcoin can cure AIDS...seriously!

Bitcoin has healed me from Genital Herpes, its amazing.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: S4VV4S on March 22, 2014, 01:04:49 PM
Bitcoin can cure AIDS...seriously!

Bitcoin has healed me from Genital Herpes, its amazing.

Bitcoin is starting to heal me from bankruptcy  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: LeHappyHodler on March 23, 2014, 05:55:25 AM
I think you guys are missing the mark on proper valuation. It's not "how much is 1 bitcoin worth," it's how much is Bitcoin worth? How much is the market cap worth? When you look at it like that, it could very well be over a trillion $. If that is the case, it is possible that sometime in the near future, which is very likely; 1 mBTC will be the new BTC. In other words, We will have to change how we view commonly used denominations.

Saying, "Oh, well.. geez $1 million for 1 bitcoin, that just doesn't seem possible," That's because you are looking at it all wrong. If Bitcoin becomes a standard alternative to operating in dollars for "Brick&mortar" as well as "Online businesses," You can be your a$$, you will see a half trillion, to trillion dollar market or more.

I can see 1 Satoshi being worth a penny, can't you ?

A trillion dollars sounds reasonable. I will probably be flying my G650 between my private islands way before that mark ;-)

Pleb. I'll be flying my shuttle to my moon base.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: mladen00 on March 23, 2014, 06:19:01 AM
If Russia , China and other Brics countries say bye bye to USD ... BTC will grow 10-100 times.


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: InCoinsITrust on March 23, 2014, 07:12:43 AM
If Russia , China and other Brics countries say bye bye to USD ... BTC will grow 10-100 times.

This can be true


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: BittBurger on March 23, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
This is the pitfall of only educating yourself to the point of "knowing how to day trade bitcoins".  
Not only do you not see the value of the long term investment, but you have no idea why it would ever go above $4,000 like most people in this thread have said.
You're all viewing it as a stock.

I would encourage everyone here to do some research on the platform, rather than hyperfocusing on the market price day to day.  
Also find out whats going on in the innovation realm with bitcoin all over the world.
You guys need to understand that the possible market reach for this technology is staggering.  

There are 40 million people in Africa alone who are currently using a digital currency with their smartphones to transfer funds.
There are at least 3 startups I know of which are working to replace that with Bitcoin, as it is cheaper and faster.  
That's 40 million new people using Bitcoin.  

Now add to that the remittances market, which everyone agrees Bitcoin will dominate first.  $300 Billion dollars.
Do I need to repeat that?
$300 Billion Dollars.
For one market that Bitcoin is capable of disrupting.  

Awareness of the Bitcoin Protocol leads to awareness that Bitcoin will go into countless other financial markets and dominate as well.
$4,000 a coin is a pittance.   Believe me.
Remember that every time you try to make a quick $20 by selling your coins.
Buy and hold instead.  And buy more every chance you get.

-B-


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: threecats on March 23, 2014, 02:58:39 PM
This is the pitfall of only educating yourself to the point of "knowing how to day trade bitcoins".  
Not only do you not see the value of the long term investment, but you have no idea why it would ever go above $4,000 like most people in this thread have said.
You're all viewing it as a stock.

I would encourage everyone here to do some research on the platform, rather than hyperfocusing on the market price day to day.  
Also find out whats going on in the innovation realm with bitcoin all over the world.
You guys need to understand that the possible market reach for this technology is staggering.  

There are 40 million people in Africa alone who are currently using a digital currency with their smartphones to transfer funds.
There are at least 3 startups I know of which are working to replace that with Bitcoin, as it is cheaper and faster.  
That's 40 million new people using Bitcoin.  

Now add to that the remittances market, which everyone agrees Bitcoin will dominate first.  $300 Billion dollars.
Do I need to repeat that?
$300 Billion Dollars.
For one market that Bitcoin is capable of disrupting.  

Awareness of the Bitcoin Protocol leads to awareness that Bitcoin will go into countless other financial markets and dominate as well.
$4,000 a coin is a pittance.   Believe me.
Remember that every time you try to make a quick $20 by selling your coins.
Buy and hold instead.  And buy more every chance you get.

-B-

+1


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: Qwerty777 on March 23, 2014, 03:04:01 PM
I can't even imagine the day when Bitcoin will costs half a million dollars - that sounds  like  a fairy tale


Title: Re: Bitoin could worth more than half a million dollars each
Post by: zimmah on March 23, 2014, 05:50:39 PM
It could very well be worth half a dollar each.

There's just no way to tell.

Exactly. I think the most Bitcoin will ever hit, is about $4,000 for one.




quoted for future reference. Boy will you look stupid in 2015.