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Economy => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: Troon on October 17, 2019, 01:56:05 PM



Title: Fair bet
Post by: Troon on October 17, 2019, 01:56:05 PM
Hello friend's.
We introduce Fair bet game.
You just need to guess the last 4 digit's of Nonce in the block containing your bet. If not, then the bet goes to the bank.
If you guessed right, your bid is doubled and sent to the address from which the bet was made. Guessing 6 last digit's of Nonce for takes the bank. Minus 2% service charge.
Example: Your Bet 0.00012494 BTC to 3BX3DKC3Ljf8TdritnhFup4L9FVyNhyWYx next block Nonce 928232494
Gain X2 = 0.00024988 system return on address of Bet.
Use 3BX3DKC3Ljf8TdritnhFup4L9FVyNhyWYx  or scan QR image link
https://imgur.com/a/ygoFW4l


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: bL4nkcode on October 17, 2019, 02:02:09 PM
Hello friend's.
We introduce Fair bet game.
You just need to guess the last 4 digit's of Nonce in the block containing your bet. If not, then the bet goes to the bank.
If you guessed right, your bid is doubled and sent to the address from which the bet was made. Guessing 6 last digit's of Nonce for takes the bank. Minus 2% service charge.
Example: Your Bet 0.00012494 BTC to 3BX3DKC3Ljf8TdritnhFup4L9FVyNhyWYx next block Nonce 928232494
Gain X2 = 0.00024988 system return on address of Bet.
Use 3BX3DKC3Ljf8TdritnhFup4L9FVyNhyWYx  or scan QR image link
Do you have a website to work with this? If you don't, I'm afraid that no one will do and will just ignore this. You need a trusted man to work with this since your account is nothing and cannot be trusted with that address of yours.


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: DiamondCardz on October 17, 2019, 04:20:07 PM
Surely the chance of guessing the last 4 digits of the Nonce is 1 / 10^4 = 0.01%, assuming that there is an even distribution between the 10000 possible values of the 4 digit Nonce? Would that not mean that you're offering double the person's bet with a 0.01% chance? How exactly is that a 'fair bet'?

Not to mention that you're doing it through a Bitcointalk thread and not an actual website...doesn't seem to be thought very well through, except for the part where it's heavily in your favour.


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: Kemarit on October 17, 2019, 10:03:05 PM
It's this a work in progress or you do have a actual working website already. Yes, we understand this kind of game and If my memory serves me right, there's one or two games with this kind of concept. Again, roll out your website and then we can discuss it here, otherwise no one will bite on it, you could say it's fair but gamblers are not that dumb though, they need to see everything in a website to even try it, best of luck.


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: stomachgrowls on October 17, 2019, 11:58:01 PM
Surely the chance of guessing the last 4 digits of the Nonce is 1 / 10^4 = 0.01%, assuming that there is an even distribution between the 10000 possible values of the 4 digit Nonce? Would that not mean that you're offering double the person's bet with a 0.01% chance? How exactly is that a 'fair bet'?

Not to mention that you're doing it through a Bitcointalk thread and not an actual website...doesn't seem to be thought very well through, except for the part where it's heavily in your favour.
This is actually one sided.  8) (purely some non-obvious money making from op).

Who the hell would bet out on 0.01% chance for just doubling your money? I'd better play dice setting up to 2x multiplier with having 49-49.5% chance of winning.

Lastly, no website? Just requiring people to sent out funds on his own address? 10000% pass or i shall say scamming attempt or possibility is high.


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: Vod on October 18, 2019, 12:43:51 AM
Hello friend's.
We introduce Fair bet game.
You just need to guess the last 4 digit's of Nonce in the block containing your bet. If not, then the bet goes to the bank.
Use 3BX3DKC3Ljf8TdritnhFup4L9FVyNhyWYx


And here you are asking for last five digits...  :/
https://twitter.com/gpscrypto


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: DiamondCardz on October 18, 2019, 12:48:45 AM
Hello friend's.
We introduce Fair bet game.
You just need to guess the last 4 digit's of Nonce in the block containing your bet. If not, then the bet goes to the bank.
Use 3BX3DKC3Ljf8TdritnhFup4L9FVyNhyWYx


And here you are asking for last five digits...  :/
https://twitter.com/gpscrypto
Seem like going from five to four was his attempt at getting more competitive, but unfortunately in this Nonce-guessing industry that just isn't enough nowadays. In fact, I'll beat his deal, I'll triple people's money if they get the last five digits. That's 50% more money for only 25% more digits than the original post! What a bargain!


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: elda34b on October 18, 2019, 06:57:05 AM
Yeah sure nobody can know what the next block nonce is, and thus it's 'fair,' but requiring a user to guess all four correctly is straight fucked up.

You should give them an option to guess one digit, two-digit, three-digit and so on. Don't be too greedy. No one is going to play a guaranteed-to-lose game.


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: MultiCoinGames-com on October 18, 2019, 10:46:49 PM
Hello friend's.
We introduce Fair bet game.
You just need to guess the last 4 digit's of Nonce in the block containing your bet. If not, then the bet goes to the bank.
Use 3BX3DKC3Ljf8TdritnhFup4L9FVyNhyWYx


And here you are asking for last five digits...  :/
https://twitter.com/gpscrypto

Hi, Vod! Why you make red trust on our account???
I just ask how to make good reputation ,read my story.
Our casino not scam, wtf you are doing?


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: leowonderful on October 19, 2019, 12:04:25 AM

Hi, Vod! Why you make red trust on our account???
I just ask how to make good reputation ,read my story.
Our casino not scam, wtf you are doing?

Read your negative trust ratings under the 'Trusted Feedback' section of the trust subpage on your account; shouldn't be hard to deduce from there. It's been proven you used multiple accounts in an attempt to oppose a flag instead of actually working things out with the person or people who started the flag in the first place. Nobody's going to trust someone that can't solve a simple issue with their money.

The wallet the game's running with is also currently empty, and the odds of winning with this particular game are so low you'd be better off doing almost anything else with your money.


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: Vaskiy on October 19, 2019, 01:16:20 AM
This looks to be a new game, but it won't get the attention of gamblers. It is clear that the winning percentage of the game will be not even 1%, if I'm not wrong even for two digit nonce It will be a hard task to predict the right value. Rather than spending on this gamblers will go with Sports and other casinos were we've got higher winning probability.


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: Wexnident on October 19, 2019, 01:38:42 AM
Bro, thats a miniscule amount of chance to win with just you guys doubling my bey when I win? Isn't that just absolute bs? I'd have probably lost a few times before even winning once. Id rather go play dice or bet on sports instead of this. Even you guessing the last digit gurantees only a 1/10 chances of winning, how much so for the last 4 digits.


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: bitmover on October 19, 2019, 03:54:42 AM
One more newbie asking for a deposit and he will pay back.... wtf...

I am sure some people will fall in this "fair bet". If nobody did, why would there be so many people doing this?

People think bitcoin is like "free money for all".
 Have you ever seen in real life "Please deposit X in my bank account that I will pay you 2x back."


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: shoreno on October 19, 2019, 05:35:30 AM
Surely the chance of guessing the last 4 digits of the Nonce is 1 / 10^4 = 0.01%, assuming that there is an even distribution between the 10000 possible values of the 4 digit Nonce? Would that not mean that you're offering double the person's bet with a 0.01% chance? How exactly is that a 'fair bet'?

Not to mention that you're doing it through a Bitcointalk thread and not an actual website...doesn't seem to be thought very well through, except for the part where it's heavily in your favour.
This is actually one sided.  8) (purely some non-obvious money making from op).

Who the hell would bet out on 0.01% chance for just doubling your money? I'd better play dice setting up to 2x multiplier with having 49-49.5% chance of winning.

Lastly, no website? Just requiring people to sent out funds on his own address? 10000% pass or i shall say scamming attempt or possibility is high.

id rather play dice with 1 sat bet and set the multiplier to 9900.  the chance was also 0.01% but i can win 0.0009 from only 1 sats.  guessing nonce is hard but the payrate offered by the op is only small.  popular money doubler like gambling do only have a 49.9 chance for 2x payout which was quite reasonable than what is offered here . better if he can increase his pay out atleast so that he wont recieve many complaints aside from not putting this game on an actual website


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: panjul07 on October 19, 2019, 05:51:41 AM
Guessing 4 digit number for 2x payout? This must be a big joke of the day on this gambling board. People would not even do it for 1 last digit prediction for 2x payout, I have no idea how OP can offer something like this. @OP, do you need a lot of money at the moment so you try this? Shame on you, people who do online gambling are smart enough, no one will fall in this kind of non-senses offer.


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: RealMalatesta on October 19, 2019, 06:54:43 AM
Would that not mean that you're offering double the person's bet with a 0.01% chance? How exactly is that a 'fair bet'?
Yes, it sounds like a naive gambler proposed a "games and round" from their over night thoughts. We cannot expect a fair system from them even their business name has the term "fair" within it. They might have derived the game idea and its name separately so we do not assume its name has all its meaning. Even there could be as much as 50% chances for guessing the digits, I guess gamblers here are having enough other options to gamble with, I mean they will not be ready to believe a newbie for their BTC.

People would not even do it for 1 last digit prediction for 2x payout, I have no idea how OP can offer something like this.
They must be new to crypto gambling and might be assuming like gamblers will rush for easy money like that. Like you mentioned people here are smart enough after seeing lots of similar attempts hence I too believe no one would consider this as a new gambling option at all.


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: Troon on October 19, 2019, 08:23:51 AM
ThAnk you so much for a lot of attention for this offeR. yes probably to hard Guess 4 digits. This offer part of more bigger game. You can leave any offer to make it better! For now we use https://forms.gle/VhuXDFBggrYjFfNK7 for explanation how it work. We worry upload code To GitHub but probably we will show code to all later. We glad to read any comments about it! Thank you for your attention. We so glad to see here intelligent and smart people! Thank you! 


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: Oilacris on October 19, 2019, 05:46:09 PM
ThAnk you so much for a lot of attention for this offeR. yes probably to hard Guess 4 digits. This offer part of more bigger game. You can leave any offer to make it better! For now we use https://forms.gle/VhuXDFBggrYjFfNK7 for explanation how it work. We worry upload code To GitHub but probably we will show code to all later. We glad to read any comments about it! Thank you for your attention. We so glad to see here intelligent and smart people! Thank you!  
Above said it do need to guess up the last 4 digit but basing on the link you had given it do mention about 2 digits
"Your task is to guess the last 2 digits of the Nonce block containing your transaction.

You bet example: 0.00104512 where the last 2 digits is your number."

Even with 2 digits, do you know on whats the actual odds? Nevermind.  


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: pakhitheboss on October 19, 2019, 08:11:46 PM
How will this work?

I do not see any website link on the information provided by you. Is it a work in progress?. If anyone is interested in playing this game then they would lose confidence without any platform.




Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: Oceat on October 19, 2019, 08:41:12 PM
How will this work?

I do not see any website link on the information provided by you. Is it a work in progress?. If anyone is interested in playing this game then they would lose confidence without any platform.



Hey mate, just click that link the OP provided, it is in form at the moment.

I don't know if he will be going to give an address for his website. But let's not expect to much from them since it started to taste sour reading the previous post.  :D


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: YuginKadoya on October 19, 2019, 09:29:45 PM
Well, your game seems not fair in my opinion and regarding this, there is no big chance that you will bring back the winning or just a 10% winning because it is an obvious not fair enough in my opinion and many will not trust anything if you just provided an address with what so ever like a site to fill out anything or a trusted escrow in any case,

And then many will just think of this as a scam game, Well don't be offended I am not judging anyone even though he had a newbie rank but I guess you will have to provide enough legitimacy in giving us a fair bet like these.


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: ralle14 on October 19, 2019, 10:29:39 PM
ThAnk you so much for a lot of attention for this offeR. yes probably to hard Guess 4 digits. This offer part of more bigger game. You can leave any offer to make it better! For now we use https://forms.gle/VhuXDFBggrYjFfNK7 for explanation how it work. We worry upload code To GitHub but probably we will show code to all later. We glad to read any comments about it! Thank you for your attention. We so glad to see here intelligent and smart people! Thank you! 
With 2 digits to choose from it's still not fair since the win chance is far from the actual payout. The payout needs to be increased to x99 for the game to be fair because no one would take a 1% chance with a x2 payout. You need to change the rules of your game if you're sticking with the x2, instead of choosing 2 digits it needs to be something like over or under 50.   


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: STT on October 19, 2019, 11:16:33 PM
I remember this kind of on chain setup operating years back when fees were no problem at all and people would use the blockchain to stay decentralised.   Its a good way of avoiding the risk a website can bring but I tend to agree these odds really appear very slight which doesnt justify the name Fair bet.
   A basic fair bet would be a coin flip, basic idea and everyone gets the outcome is 50/50 or very close to it.   The odds of this game resemble a lottery type operation except the prize isn't the attractive large prize a lottery has.   It doesnt really add up then on the surface at least, if you want me or any regular here to test it out and give their experience that might be the best way to resolve the argument.       Its fine to make a profit but this game might need more thought to develop or more risk taken on the prize offered, I can already get something like a 1% bet given free by the long standing companies in Bitcoin.  Its going to be a bit harder to break into this business.


Title: Re: Fair bet
Post by: Troon on October 23, 2019, 05:06:16 AM
We was explain to our boss and she was accept new rules.

How to play. 

Your task is to guess the last  digit of the Nonce block containing your transaction.

You bet example: 0.00100002 where the last  digit "2" is your number.

If the last  digit of the Bet coincided with the last  digit of the Nonce block including your transaction  - your bid is X9 and automatically sent to the address from which it was made (after 3 confirmations (about 30 minutes)).

The minimum bid is 0.0001000* approximately 0.81 dollars. Where * is your number.

If last digit of nonce 0 bet will send to charity address.

You are not limited in the number of bets.

The maximum bet size is limited by your capabilities.

All transaction data is open and can be viewed and confirmed by either party.
at https://www.blockchain.com

The system cannot affect the outcome of the event and fake or alter Nonce. This is the most fair game.

Address still the same 3BX3DKC3Ljf8TdritnhFup4L9FVyNhyWYx