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so after coinbase tweeted that they are interested in the listing of 17 barely known projects on their exchange
i checked this thing a little and found out that most of them are in private sale
i got into a conclusion that after the next coins launch : Filecoin, Dfinity, Avalanche, Gram, Celo, Chia, Coda, Handshake, Kadena, Mobilecoin, Near, Nervos, Oasis, Orchid, Solana, Spacemesh, Polkadot.  (some of them already launched)

some time after the launch of these coins there will be another market manipulation and a new altcoin bubble
it probably will happen sometime in 2020 or 2021.
there is no need for 90% of this projects, its just the ticket to enter the market for some new well connected players and to grab some BTC on the way in


(more info: https://www.altcoinbuzz.io/crypto-news/product-release/exclusive-overview-all-17-unknown-coins-coinbase-is-exploring/ )

 :o  that speculation... seems logical actually
it kinda feels like coinbase has made some deals to create some market rises here, maybe they aquired some of these tokens as part of listing
in my experience EVERYTHING listed on coinbase pumps atleast ONCE
so it would be good to keep an eye on those projects for sure yupp

The next bubble on the cryptocurrency market will come sooner or later. I also believe that this will happen in 2020. In my opinion it will be close to the halving even, so around mid-2020 ...  ::)

yea they made some serious deals here
and changed their listing policy just in time for the next wave of cryptos
surprisngly few of these project launched by some serious organizations and sold in private sale
feels like they planned it a long time ago

after few years in this market it looks too obvious to me
but i also may be wrong  8)

hopefully it will come haha
and i really hope that there will be some more volatility before the halving and before the next bubble
alts are too boring since the beginning of 2018

It will be hit at the time of halving or after it bro.
Because even last time halving also we have found that price bump at the end of that year only. So if there is growth confirmef we can invest on multiple cryptocurrency and make money with it. Traders and investors may be the millionaire in that time.

Good catch for the sign. Honestly, most of those coins except the Gram, I'm not very familiar with all of them. And how they could list Gram if the SEC stops it?

By 2020, halving will time in come and this will sort bitcoin into another phase of giving less rewards to the miners and will increase the demand. In turn to this, the altcoin market will benefit too but many will be extinguished.

do not have to wait when the bull run come bull run can come at any time when big news about crypto are present, I dont think to speculation in 2020, right now we only hope that big news comes as soon as possible so that bull run really materialized

thats my point, no one is familiar with these coins except insiders, institutions and coinbase
they are trying to ride the wave of crypto currency and make some money on retailers by listing unknown projects and sell it for high price
without giving these project time to prove that they worth something
its not typical coinbase behavior.

about Gram, i dont know..
coinbase talked about it before the problems with SEC
maybe they will get some deal with the SEC , other coins had problems with SEC and resolved it
and maybe not..



Yes, i also expect that to happen

No one knows when it would be the next bubble. But we will just hoping that this project will serve as entrance in increasing the market going into hype.

big news won't help here much
since beginning of 2018 we had so much good news, and it did not trigger a bull market
only the halving can trigger that or a new wave of manipulation just as i described in the post

Time to grab some of it and accumulate profits. Coinsbase is a good exchange based in US. I guess many Americans are going to buy if these altcoins are going to launch on that exchange and eventually succeeded in crowdfunding. Also coinbase is a good start for those who want their project to be successful.

Big news affect more in crypto, it can boost people to do FOMO. why since 2018 there are good news but still dont affect to crypto price?
i think it is because of trend. 2018 trend cleary changed to downtrend. in downtrend many people affraid of market, any news in the space affect nothing because of affraid

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IMO coinbase listing wont affect much, listing in exchange or even big exchanges is a normal not big things, even if 17 coin listing simultaneously
so, i doubt it will affect in cryptocoin price

yep its all about the trend and also market manipulation
not the listing is what will affect the cryptocoin price
but after they list those 17 coins they may manipulate and reverse the trend of the market in purpose and generate a FOMO
just like it happened in the ICO boom

my point is these 17 projects came from nowhere and made by institutions just for that
and coinbase is their trojan horse that will bring them into the market
and sell for much higher price than it was sold in the private sale

ye but coinbase will sell it for a higher price than it was sold in the private sale
so i dont suggest to buy in immidietely
look what happened to Algo for example

I know only 2 of those coins and i thought i was pretty aware on what's happening on the altcoin space. I really like Coinbase and their idea of educating people but it seems to be going towards full shitcoin exchange day by day. I wonder if they actually just list a coin by charging a fee soon. Well at least they don't offer tokens yet so that's something.

yes maybe they have prepared this, even they have long planned it. but how do they create pumps to make new bubbles? spreading good news, not enough to make a buy wave on the market, we've seen this a few months ago. there was a time when good news about crypto continued to be posted on several mainstream online news sites, but nothing happened to the crypto market.

then what method will they do? manipulate the market, by buying more? this will be difficult because there will be lots of sell waves ready to wait for them later. so I think this is a pretty difficult way.

believe there will be a new bullrun for the crypto market, but I'm still confused about how to trigger it.

Do not offend mate, Actually I am the one that hoping crypto to get back into the higher value, but we should knows nobody can tell when the price goes up because crypto is highly volatile.
But of course I strongly believe that bitcoin rise again if not rise before end of this year hoping this whole of the year of 2020 bitcoin become stable at the expensive price value.

It seems Coinbase now realized that they can make a huge amount of money by listing new launched project and pumping it in their platform than watch them from the sideline. These project maybe pumped hard but I do not think that this will be a cause of a massive altcoin bubbles.  And I can see more investors getting rekt in this plan.

It could be possible for a new market manipulation since most USA crypto-users have been blocked by crypto-exchanges. So, there only option if they don't have VPN is to use coinbase which make it the only source of buying/selling they can easily manipulate it.

That's right from the beginning of 2018 until now the movement of altcoins seems boring. Hopefully news from This coinbase with
17 projects will surprise in 2020. My hunch says there will indeed be manipulation market and there are some altcoin bubbles to lure
investors or traders into the market. But it's not recommended to buy when The 17 projects enter exchanges because it is indeed
dangerous if it is already sold in a private sale, so when it enters the market the price will be too high to buy. We really need to prepare
for this, but there is a positive side to that indeed this happened in 2020 when before halving or after halving was not too a problem.
Will happen there will indeed be surprises in the market altcoins in 2020. I can't wait for that to happen.

Totally
from being the most credible exchange that has high demand for listing
they are going to become a full shitcoin exchange

there is a group of people that can create pumps and a FOMO
thats why sometimes you have a lot of good news and price only goes down
and in other times the price sky rockets for no reason
they're just waiting for the best & most profitable time to do so
and that time must be after they sell millions of coins, that they bought in private sale,to retail investors

i agree the price will be too high
but with the right marketing they'll always find buyers =[
i always give Algo as an example, because it is one of the first projects from the batch of private sale coins

I will prefer if the next bubble happened during the next year, I do not really care exactly when it happens as long as it happens, the last time we saw a bubble I was not prepared for it and while I earned some money it was nothing compared to what I could have earned if I had my current level of knowledge, when the next bubble comes I will really take advantage of it since I like to think the next bubble will offer all of us the opportunity to change our lives for the better.

I think people should be educated which project that really promising or not. Maybe if the coin will look bad, as long there are buyers come, they will still exist. But maybe for now almost all people already can pick which project that really promising.

Every exchange have their own shitcoins, so this is not new to coinbase which is still bettet compare to others. They continue to help more people, we should do the same thing and tell our friends about cryptocurrency. Coinbase still have a good reputation, the volume of trades will increase if they see more good coins.

hopefully with the many projects that emerge from coinbase can have a good influence on the price movement of cryptocurrency because if you have many platforms to be launched like that it should be able to have a good impact on the market.

Yes maybe there's a lot  of platform  to be launched.
Coinbase is one most good personal wallet and you will be also support your Friends.

Well, I feel optimistic about good news like this, if the project can be successful then there is a big possibility that the effect on the price of Altcoin will occur, Yeah Altcoin season I think will arrive soon. Especially after Halving Bitcoin later many predict the price of Crypto will return to the moon. Maybe because of this factor the project developers entered the market.

Yups that’s only few to keep an eye and with just 1 jackpot sure we will be gaining big income let’s say 2 out of those mentioned will pump in front of our face?imgine how huge amount would that be?because you are correct that all currency’s that enter Coinbase pumped at least once or even twice so looking into this is a big chance

Adding those coins in my watch list for assurance that I will never forget lol

Right now I am investing only in Bitcoin because I have lost faith in altcoins. For almost two years, they have shown absolutely no progress and the only coin that was strong enough to raise from ashes is Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is a trusted crypto currency so you earn good profit on next bull run and If you loose altcoins investment it was your fault because growing altcoins are always available in the market. But If you don't have knowledge in trading platform you must secure your investment and right know you protect so you will earn further trading.

I also feel the same thing maybe because we trust too much on the coming halving in 2020,
But base on the past halving events the price shows that it always increase before halving or even after the event.
So maybe this could be the reason for us to see another all time high for Bitcoin.

yes, and i think few months after bitcoin halving crypto market will surge mate
and maybe at this moment a lot of smart investors collecting more bitcoin while the price still below 10K Usd
regards

I hope that the positive trend when halving day can happen again in 2020, if the market can skyrocket again like in 2017 then the future of crypto will improve and make more people use crypto, but I only focus on buying the top 25 at coin marketcap.

The fact is that until now there has not been a good enough project to promote it. only the IEO project from binance which in my opinion is good. because they do not experience a price reduction of up to 50% when listing. actually experienced a significant increase at the beginning of the listing

Your hope is certainly also the hope of many who have struggled in the crypto field. it has been almost more than a year since crypto is in a state of lethargy, many altcoins cannot grow properly after the completion of ico and many actually become scams. but I am optimistic that when the end of this year there will be changes continue to continue in 2020.

Ok, Bitcoin halving may bring some benefits to us, but we should to look further in 2020. Many coins may repeat LTC price pattern when a lot of investors started to sell their LTC coins right before and after the event. I hope that most of us will not sale our coins after possible price bump next spring.
We are mostly community of experienced traders so got to avoid some market traps in 2020. Hold on ;)

Bitcoin halving will probably give us a couple of thousand USD increase or more but I doubt it will take us back to what happened in 2017. I hope it will but I am not expecting that. There must be a lot of factors for the like of 2017 to happen again. The future is bright for BTC of course and the ATH will be broken eventually but I am willing to wait if it takes a much longer time than what it took in 2017. That was very fast. Just keep on HODLing!

Why you doubt that we will not see another 2017?

Bitcoin's halvening is a cycle so obviously the effect is going to repeat itself. Just a question on the time the reach the next all time high and the trickle effect on the alt coin market.

I reckon that at least 2022 will be another great bubble in crypto market, we may have to see the market capitalisation grows as high as $1 trillion.

The hypes of 2017 might be a good sign that eventually bitcoin will increase to that level, so far this expected halving is still unclear to what extent it can provide to help the market to bounce back from the last time high. If ever that it bring a little increase but solid barrier to hold its ground that might be enough  to wait. The momentum will soon then be appreciated and bring the to the next level of new ATH.

Halving is not a key, do you think the bitcoin halving will give a huge impact to the whole of crypto and then make it worth a lot again in the future? I should remind you that what is needed by crypto and all of alts are the new buyers that refer to the adopters. Crypto is nothing without the adoption.
Regulation is the main problem right now. The halving of bitcoin has nothing to do to the sentiment of the market has already created caused by the regulation problems in the crypto itself.

if this will truly happen then what i need to do is watched these coins for a possible Pump soon?or you might share here the movement of each currencies?since you are the starter and promoter of the mentioned coins.
this is a timing as i am seeking for another set of currency or token that i might invest with.

anyway looking to this thread for future use as after coinbase take the coins then the movement will surely starts

Coinbase became a place of altcoins these days because they have to compete the market for exchanges where, if they only have few altcoins listed on their exchange, the traders will find a better place to trade.

But with their choice, it seems like a joke if those are verified to be listed soon. I guess that decision from coinbase will replace since they've talked about it before the SEC issue, they will adjust it probably.

How they came to the decision is still a mystery and i have not heard about any of these coins till now.

These are private projects and not sure what is the involvement and profit percentage they will be getting by listing these coins in the market is not clear yet.

Lets imagine there will be a market manipulation and a rally in the coins listed in coinbase but what is the guarantee that they will not dumb everything after the rally.

Well this is just a speculation, nothing more, so be careful when you believe in some news like this one is. Unknown projects to be listed on coinbase, projects from private sales will now be opened for public? This is some joke? This look fishy to me!
I will stick to old, established projects. Projects that didn`t have private sales and bonuses for huge investors! Decentralization my friends is the key for the future, we must choose projects that are decentralized and support them, not coinbase and their products!

That's just a listing, things are not so attractive anymore because in the past, when coinbase is listing a new coin, the hype is on, now is different.
Although I am not expecting a positive short term movement but a coin added in coinbase is already such a great achievement knowing the size of market they have.

well you cant be blamed for thinking such but remember we are talking about Coinbase here one of the largest and respectable exchange ever live so their decisions are all legits and we can expect no fishy not unless you dont know whats Coinbase is
but still they chooses coins to be listed in which with good value and developer anf not shitcoins like other exchange has

Things are very different now than 2017 many speculators and investors are very careful in entering again the crypto market because of the recent bear market I dont speculate much this days that there will be new ATH in the next 1-2 years I hope of all of you are correct but the fact that regulators have not finalized the faith of crypto we are still hoping for the best.

Poor crypto supporters and traders in the US. They are becoming a hermit country thanks to their government and their agencies such as SEC. They now look primitive as compared to less developed countries but are adapting to the growing technologies.

With only a couple of exchanges left and projects and coins not free to enter into the market, they are now forced to trade all these shitcoins. This is funny. And what is this Gram included in the list? Is this a fake GRAM of Telegram which the US has just blocked?

Do you believe that people will fall to the Alt bubble again? I think that the next bubble wont be so obvious... It will be sad to see people falling to all the sh*t coins again.

Investors need to have faith in this market because this is the decisive moment for the new trend of all coins. I think if the market cannot grow well by the end of this year, there won't be many opportunities for you to make money from this market by 2020. I have analyzed a lot about this market but I have never been right because the bear market greatly affects the psychology of everyone.

In my opinion, you need to have a specific strategy when investing because the risk is still very large and you will not be able to predict when the trend will increase again like 2017.

bubble is like "look at that prank" if you say and everyone start to look at it, when someone jump on a new bubble everyone else follow, because of the hype etc...i believe the next halving will help a lot this happening again and again, until bitcoin become big enough and stabilized

yes and it means that many new people are interested in developing a project
i really think that in 2020 there will be thousands of new developers/traders/investors in the space
because so much development is going on and even coinbase opened its doors to new projects
the only thing i am sad about is the face that all this projects are sold in private sales
in other hand, that means that there are many institutions that invest in this private sale, and they probably will earn money and invest in other crypto currencies!!

its not falling again cuz there are many new comers .. the average time of an trader/investor in the space is 6 months!
i read a book about it " a random walk down wallstreet" and they have a section about crypto currency there too
its not different than any other market since a long time ago.. every new market behaves the same
there always will be new people that will fall into a bubble, and in a market like this now with such an easy way to access, i think that next bubble there will be much more people that will fall to that.

It seems like Coinbase wants to get a lot of money from new projects. they seem to be jealous of the achievement of binance in influencing IEO. I want to see how they will make a surprise next year. if there will be a big manipulation in the market, we'll see.

You are joking about that and that's true,

read this
https://blog.coinbase.com/introducing-the-crypto-rating-council-d6ee33a8f34d

and this one
https://www.cryptoratingcouncil.com/framework

Almost all of coins already mentioned by OP can be included in the security tokens.
Those coins must have passed the cryptoratingcouncil framework and it's not an easy task because you must prove if your token is utility.

Coinbase is not a greedy exchange site. The listing must be based on the SEC's framework.

it's not always about money.

So you think there are works going behind the general public's knowledge and with the social media so active none of the news are leaking online is hard to believe. Coinbase is a business and they will do anything that gives them a profit, they are not conducting a charity to promote the crypto market, they are in this market to make money and hence you cannot trust any company blindly.

I think Coinbase is very transparent in this market so competing with Binance is unnecessary because each exchange has its own strengths and Coinbase has helped a lot of other projects in this market. In my opinion with Coinbase finances, they can completely manipulate this market easily but of course they cannot do so because this is a market for everyone.

I personally prefer to use Binance in investing in IEO as this is a regular exchange that helps a lot of investors make big profits.

It is not always about money but if there is none involved, it will be a different story. LOL. This is about SEC intervening in the crypto business and when it is about SEC, it will be about money. Or if not, it will be about bowing down to every command they give, every requirement they ask, and every whim they implement. This is the larger joke.

The bitcoin halving definitely has an effect on the price of bitcoin and the price of many altcoins as well, what we do not know is if that is going to be enough to see another all time high, if the price begins to go up hype will become a big factor since then the fear of missing out will begin to haunt investors and that could make the price to go even higher, but I still think it will not be enough, we need a big news coming from the developers if we want to see another all time high.

They have probably paid a bunch of money to coinbase, because I never heard about 90 percent of those projects  ;D But anyways, that you for your suggestion and I think those coins will get hardly pumped because of their coinbase listing.

2020 there will be a Bitcoin Halving and at that time there will usually be an increase in prices. if we look at the previous years. I'm quite optimistic about the obvious fact that the bitcoin market will be quite strategic in 2020. We can all get huge profits if we already invest in bitcoin now. do not regret if the price has increased,do an analysis and decide

based on last halving, it still needs time to increase price. the meaning is bitcoin needs for months to reach new ATH
but it is still good. at least bitcoin has a strong fundamental reason to increase its price
i highly hope that history would repeat again. so, we can get anothers altseason too

Coinbase days are gone when those listed on them will surely pumping in any case,but now?those shitcoins on list will sure die in future lol,what’s to expect?nothing but losses 😂
But what about those shitcoins on list in OP?have you give a chance to at least check?dont over use the word Bitcoin Halving because just like BAKKT release too much expectation that ends up failure so better not to expect so high for us not to disappoint when the price don’t come to what we are thinking
That’s the point mate,Binance success is being targeted of these exchange and they think may accumulate more profit but they cannot do as Binance success did that’s for sure

look in coinbase pro
there is a coin named "Orchid" listed
they paid huge amount of money for sure, and the project is still worthless
there are so many good projects in our space that worked and created great solutions for enterprise which dont get recognition
its a joke
i dont understand why everything has to be about money

Why everything has to be money is because money is the commodity which runs to entire globe. Without money, there is nothing. Coinbase is a good exchange as well as wallet. Some of these coins mentioned by OP getting listed on coinbase means they would gradually create some more dense demand and would also experience some pump once they are listed onto coinbase.

No doubt that the coinbase might have charged huge listing fees for those coins and that is the reason why much of the coins never get listed onto some better exchanges. They can't afford to pay the listing fees. But in this case, the coins have already payed the listing fees which might also redirect us that they have excess funds available for the development of the coin which might surely be a plus point for their investors to trust onto those coins.

We can't say that there is no need for 90% of the above mentioned coins. Each coin have its own benefits and use cases which might make them beneficial for the investors. We people linked with cryptocurrencies want to find crypto payments in each field we enter and these newly launched coins actually give a boost in this act. We can use specific coins on some specific platforms where we can buy or exchange goods or services which are related to the products and this is really a motivating act.

We could make maximum use of our coins in order to make benefits from the markets. Also holding most of the coins for long term would make our portfolio multiple by numerous times.