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I'm a person who would like to do some work for Bitcoin, so I monitor freelancing sites occasionally, and at this time I feel like the freelance market in Bitcoin is nearly dead. The Services board is 99% listings of services rather than people who are looking to buy some; XBTfreelancer is empty or has 1-2 projects most of the time; cryptogrind has mostly just ridiculously underpaid projects or again service announcements (shouldn't they be banned there?), and there's also not much available projects overall; workingforbitcoins has very little traffic, just a few projects per month.

It was theorized that Bitcoin will help alleviate poverty by allowing people to work online without any restrictions, but on practice this just isn't happening. In your opinion, what is the reason for this?

The industry has moved from a more open style to a much more professional style, previously during the ICO boom period, people often hired people in the service board or other sites.

Nowadays, these get rich schemes have died down and are no longer popular and it's become a real life job market with much more regulations - most people will just recruitment agencies and other platforms to hire now.

It's good for the industry, means we are starting to see crypto-based buisnesses be taken a lot more seriously, but it's bad for the community.

That is one of the chain-effect of the 2018 bear market. Some of the individuals or companies didn't able to withstand the wrath of it. And aside from that, even there is a so-called "project", maybe others aren't interested anymore to test the waters at those freelance works that pay in crypto.

Back during the hype of 2017, lots of projects just popped out of nowhere due to the fact that it's quite easy to set up a project as regulations aren't that strict.

But don't stop, if someone has a special talent, just continue offering services at any platform. However, consider thinking about other alternatives as we all know that any crypto-related works aren't bound to lasts forever.

That's a false premise right from the start.  Bitcoin won't help alleviate poverty any more than a fiat currency would do.  It's money, not salvation sent from the heavens.

Your best bet?  Join a signature campaign if you can.  You're a hero member registered in 2016 so I'm sure you're well aware of what I'm talking about.  Some of them pay as much as a regular job.  The services section hasn't been a job posting section in quite some time, if ever.  Rarely do I see anyone looking for work unless it's some worthless task paying pennies.  Unfortunately I don't know of any other website where you can find some job that pays in bitcoin.  This is it as far as I know.

People were saying that since Bitcoin is the first global currency that doesn't care about borders, it would be easier to connect workers and employers, and especially help the so-called "unbanked". It makes some sense in theory, because Bitcoin has different properties than fiat, so why it didn't work as predicted?


I'm not asking how to make money here, just discussing the general state of the freelancing market in Bitcoin.

Bear market killed everything when it comes to freelancing :( as I'm struggle as well in order to catch some extra work in weekends but there are few projects willing to pay the worker like they should or they offer their coin which is crazy when we see how many of ICO's and IEO's are failing. After this bear end for good I hope that more jobs opportunity will rise again and we can work again for extra income as for sure there will be a lot of demands for coders , networks , devs and so on.

I've recently escrowed a few deals for a user who wanted a job done on the Services board.
It's rare, but it does still happen. It's hard to find though, there are many scammers but occasionally a new user with skills joins the forum.

There's no shortage of people with skills on the platforms that I've mentioned (unless we talk about highly specialized skills or very high quality demands), the problem is that there's not enough employers. It's harder to judge about this forum, since many things can go through pm's rather than public threads, but bidding is usually public on the platforms that I've mentioned, and you can see how barren they are right now.

I won't call Bitcoin freelancing as dead, rather it had suffered a major slowdown which could be attributed to the bearish market but overtime this industry will regain its composure and would be vibrant again - a normal cycle in crypto evolution.

there is demand from freelancers to be paid in bitcoin, but no supply. this could be because businesses are generally uninterested in adopting it. since there's an abundance of labor willing to work for more traditional forms of payment, there is no pressure on businesses to adopt it.

bitcoin is great for freelancers, especially for the unbanked in the context of internet-based work. but why should employers spend time and incur fees buying bitcoin---and risk the volatility---just for the benefit of those people?

to a lesser extent, there could also be a dynamic related to gresham's law happening. why pay out bitcoin when it's more rational to hoard them?

Maybe employers are much more likely to pay using fiat or altcoin instead?BTC has reached an astounding price so I'd suppose they'd rather hire professionals instead of free lancers. Most probably because we're now done with the development phase of projects and serviced and its now time for companies to do it professionally instead. It guarantees the quality of work after all.

Bitcoin is seldom used to pay for freelancing jobs nowadays because Bitcoin is getting more precious. Freelancing especially those that are supportive of crypto have now shifted to paying with their own tokens. There were already a number of crypto projects whose objective is to provide freelancers as well as employers an ecosystem where tasks are accomplished and are paid with their altcoins. Even these projects have since died.

In my opinion its not going to die, freelancing just slowed adoption due to bear market conditions. But before during the market was healthy the freelancing ecosystem was quiet healthy too and lot opportunities offered for job seekers. Nowadays it’s quiet rare but I’m confident that it will be back to normal once the market recover.

It's really a matter of concern that a lot of people don't get an opportunity as like as they got in the previous years, also it's true that this platform is becoming more professional in comparison to recent times. we saw that the service section was full of work announcement in 2017, 2018 but in this year, this rate has gone to below quantity, not only that but also ICO/IEO has been almost vanishing from this platform due to lack of investors, the current situation is also responsible to a lot of scam projects, people lost their money and faith in this platform so this has happened, but the work rate also has been lower than that time, I hope it will get back and the good time will come.

There are still active posts on https://www.reddit.com/r/Jobs4Bitcoins/ and they keep on coming. I haven't worked with any of them but there should be an escrow needed for each transaction or job you'll ever take there.

Until you build trust and confidence between yourself and the client. And as a freelancer, you will be the one to decide whether to continue it or not if there's something that you didn't like or isn't favor to your agreement.

Unfortunately bitcoin freelancing is not a popular thing to begin with, the freelancers and the demands for project usually centered on a conventional freelancing platform and rarely I see in a bitcoin freelancing site. Back in the day when it's still a relatively new thing the project there is not that much compared to any mainstream freelancing sites. That's why because of that more and more freelancers turning their face into mainstream freelancing platform because there's just more opportunity.

One thing that just come to my mind, It's always funny when people saying bitcoin could alleviates poverty I mean it's just a currency and not charity foundation.

Maybe the reason could be people started to work for useless tokens not only for bounties but also for other crypto related services so those sites were in silent mode now but its not completely lost its place,when there will be a highly bullish trend all those services will be back so there will be more chances for freelancers.

And I don't think bitcoin is not created to help poverty,it just to give us financial freedome wither we could have it via earning or buying.

You have a point, and another thing is that unlike before wherein project has their own fund, and they have private investors, but nowadays the project is purely relying on the fund that they will raised in public such as IEO/ICO and if they haven't raised anything at all or just raised small amount of money, they stopped or sometimes run away.

People investing on the current ICO's can't be considered as investors because they just rushing to invest when the see huge discounts but they never care about what they are about to invest and how this project could go in long term.Basically investors have to concentrate on long term goals or benefits to be more successful.

in my experience the bitcoin "economy" is always the most active and thriving when the price is on the rise inside a big bull market. for example in 2017 everything was a lot more active like freelancing sites,... and when price comes down and bear markets start like 2018 everything slows down.

there is also another problem with these sites like xbtfreelance that they lack advertisement so only a handful of people are aware of it and sometimes the quality of them are low which discourages people from participating and eventually the site loses its traffic.

I m really wondering what are the reasons why freelancing sites using Bitcoin seem to not gaining good traction in this industry? Maybe if we can identity the problems and challenges with this situation some people can be coming up with possible solutions. Freelancing sites should be making the gigs economy alive and can be helping a lot in more adoption of Bitcoin as they are presenting many people with opportunities to earn some Bitcoin in exchange for performing some tasks. Sadly, there is really no Fiverr counterpart here in the Bitcoin industry. Had Fiverr made a decision to allow Bitcoin as part of its mode of payment then things can be so positively different. I am so sad for this development and I am hoping that something can be done to make those freelancing sites using Bitcoin to come back to life.

I've never really seen Bitcoin freelancing as separate from freelancing. I was a freelancer/self-employed person for a period of time until 2006, before having made the decision to relocate to a new place in 2015/16... forcing me to return to freelancing and remote work.

I still took a time to rebuild networks and reputation, before the gigs started flowing back in. And I had to work for a long time to slowly convince people (employers) to pay in bitcoin. Until around 2018 even, some were still paying in paypal or even bank wire but as of today, all my main clients are 100% crypto (only 1 pays in alt) and the few who still insist on paypal or others I no longer focus on as much.

So in practical aspects, I'm about virtually 100% freelancing for bitcoin.

Freelancing works better on upwork and other non-crypto specific platforms (ie. work your ass off by reaching out to people). Then it's your job to convince them to pay in btc. I offer a discount on my rates for bitcoin payments, and that's the clincher. They save 3%-5% on costs, I make it up by also gaining bitcoin feeless and I sell it on a good rate p2p.

But who will approach freelancing sites to accept bitcoin as payment method?  As they don't seems to show any interest in added bitcoin as a payment option it may be due to volatility but this can we eradicated by fixing the amount in USA like $100 worth of bitcoin for a task.  The drawback over here is that we don't have a centralize community for the growth of bitcoin but altcoins might have better chances as they have relevant teams to do this.

I think there are still many freelancers who can accept payments using bitcoin, while now there are a few that require freelance fees because in my opinion there are currently more who store bitcoin and it seems that there are no very important projects.

It's because once bitcoin went over $1000, employers prefer to hoard their bitcoin and pay people in dollars. So they have gone to the regular freelancing sites and are hiring people for fiat.

I feel a crypto freelancing board could work if people were paid in something like Doge, which nobody hoards - but would employees be willing to work for doge?

I'm also one of the freelancers who are looking for crypto jobs in upwork. I use to see a lot of employers posting job requirements they needed done. Last 2017 I can see a lot of them there that even asking for bticointalk account username is asked by them. I was hired to fill a coin market ranking website last 2017 and was paid in great amounts but today, they nearly are not posting jobs related to BTC. most of the jobs are article writing for a not so known crypto websites.

Very interesting, I thought that those freelance website that pays in bitcoin is having a good start because bitcoin is slowly getting into mainstream. Feelancing has been underpaid years ago, just go to Upwork and you will see some projects paying workers as low as $1 per hour though.

Probably it's because of the bearish trend, so not many people are willing to take the risk to hire someone and make a successful project because they know that investors are not willing to bring money right now. Those projects are at a standstill.

Volatility is one of the reasons for bitcoin not working as a regular payment coin. But it's also the platforms that emerged just to attract users with bitcoin payments were not as capable as the established platforms for freelancing. They couldn't compete with Upwork and Fiverr and even with microworkers but if any of those three website would accept bitcoin as a payment, they would certainly have a boost in number of users.

I totally agree on this, I really felt that campaigns nowadays are having a hard time marketing and inviting investors causing failure to distribute bounties
compare to 2017, campaigns are more likely to realize their projects and give hunters good pay.

I suppose it's now better to just set up your own website where they can contact you and then promote yourself. Many people make Youtube channels mostly to promote their own business. You might have to give your viewers something free though, like tutorials and advice on the video. If they like what they've seen then they might contact you.


Bad for freelancers that hope to do all the work by themselves. Now it'll just be like with regular job except that it'll be through an agency and likely wouldn't have benefits. Makes me wonder how many people started to move back to getting a regular job.

Have you tried all these sites?

xbtfreelancer.com
bitwage.jobs/discover
coinality.com
cryptogrind.com
bitlance.biz
angel.co/bitcoin/jobs
bitgigs.com
coinworker.com
bitcoin-vacancy.com
r/BitcoinJobs
r/Jobs4Bitcoins
bitwage.jobs/workers
remoteok.io
cryptojobslist.com
workingforbitcoins.com
freelance.kable.co
bounty0x.io
cryptojobslist.com
ask.for-bitcoin.com
vrobin.com/


Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/b7jxet/bitcoin_wages/ post by Mr--Robot

It is not really dead but it got even bigger so it is not around. I know what you think, how could it get bigger and also disappear at the same time, well it is simple, people who are good at what they do became more interested in freelancing with bitcoins, people who have been freelancing with fiat for years got interested as well.

Hence, when bitcoin freelancing world first started there was a lot of people who used to make money without doing the job properly because there was less freelancers, now there are tons of them so for the same price people pick the best ones and people create some sort of network eventually so it doesn't have to be on the forums. So as you can see people are still doing freelancer jobs, it is just very few since there are good freelancers who took all the rest.

Actually traditional companies aren't that open until now to pay in crypto currency as payments therefore it's only the ICOs and the IEOs which post any freelancing opportunities on such platforms. With downfall of ICOs and IEOs not many of them are coming and successfully running therefore it has directly affected the number of freelancing opportunities available on such platforms. I think you can find most of it here on the forum in the services section. I don't think these sites would become greener anytime soon again.

No, I only tried the one's I've mentioned in OP, but now that you have mentioned it, I checked the sites on your list (minus those where you have to register to see projects), and here's what I found:

coinality.com/ -> No jobs since 2017

angel.co/bitcoin/jobs -> not really freelance, more like regular job market for crypto startups.

bitgigs.com -> when I checked projects, I only saw offers from people who by mistake post their service offers, and no actual projects. The site seems to be unmoderated.

coinworker.com/ -> microtasks that pay satoshis

bitcoin-vacancy.com -> seems like the site has expired

r/BitcoinJobs & r/Jobs4Bitcoins -> these two seem to have some hiring activity

remoteok.io -> again regular job market, unclear if they pay in BTC

cryptojobslist.com -> same

freelance.kable.co -> still in beta

bounty0x.io -> has some activity, but not much

I've seen it too and among the list this is the best place that for sure you would consider.Common places for bitcoin jobs on reddit and they are active ones.
Good luck on job hunting.  ;)

It's very much true! While the freelancing market is flourishing exponentially, bitcoin as a payment method is not growing. Majority of the well-established freelancing websites like freelancer or peopleperhour are only relying on Paypal as a payment method. The reason is not the number of jobs, rather the availability of bitcoin to the mass. Due to the confusing/no legal structure around bitcoin, common people are still not willing to use it as a payment method. Whoever small population is using it, they are more interested in bitcoin as an investment vehicle!

If we keep aside the legal factors, the only possibility for bitcoin to be used as a payment method is the stability of price. If bitcoin remains volatile like today, it's highly unlikely that it will be used as a currency for purchasing goods and services. We can see a lot more service purchaser in any field, only if the price of bitcoin becomes stable!

A big list is being provided by one of the user, and gives the clear description about more number of freelance opportunities in exchange for bitcoin. Earlier the opportunities were high and the users to work is low. This paid good, and now the opportunity is high to the same the competence is very big. This is the reason why we see the market to be not fair for freelancing at the moment.

Bitcoin is now acting like an asset that is not meant for paying employees and so there are projects designed for this specific market, sadly its failing because the community didn't support those projects. Projects meant for freelancers because while they have their own tokens, freelancers are seeing BTC more to be acceptable.

Ethlance also doesn't have much employers there and while job seekers wants to apply for jobs, they are required to buy ETH because they would have to pay ETH just to apply for the a job.

I couldn't have said it any better , relying on a freelancer sites with the current bad trends bitcoin market won't give you any solutions... people tend to play safe lately, rather than have to risking themselves buy some bitcoin to pay services while the value could dropped drastically, is it makes any sense? Of course it is.

I was seoclercks customer back in 2014 / 2015 .. I choose them because they accept bitcoin, ethereum and litecoin ... guess they are no longer accept crypto payment since 2017/2018 for undisclosed reason. Now I feel the same like OP who thinks that the crypto freelancers it seems slowly dead left out, that's from a customer view.

This is clearly a single step backward for the progress of Bitcoin or cryptocurrency adoption. Freelancing is a niche where Bitcoin could have thrived since it is mostly done through the internet, and payments asked and made will have to cross borders. Crypto should really be gaining in this billion-dollar niche. But it seems the significant changes of cryptocurrencies' prices which happens all the time is spoiling every potential.

That's the effect of the market's volatility. During this situation, it's better if you'll look for other ways to earn because some projects are just waiting for the market to recover. Even bounty projects these days are affected by the bear market. However, there are still freelance companies who are offering promising rewards and payment so you could still find good projects on the internet.

I think it's because many people don't know about it yet; I mean they don't know of the possibility of paying freelancer with Bitcoin.
I have seen where people get paid in bitcoin to do certain freelance work but this work don't usually comes from freelancing sites. It's mostly an agreement with two people.
OP, if you can set up a site that accepts freelancer for Bitcoin payment like the mentioned above, it will be a good think. Just market it vigorously to draw attention.

I do remember some of those freelancing sites before. XBTfreelancer is the most popular as they were running an advertisement or a signature campaign here in btalk. Before there were also many ICO that focused on freelancing and if I am not mistaken, they're all gone.

Bitcoin can only be an instrument for people work online free from restrictions but it can never provide guarantees. There are less crypto projects compared to the last years because of the market bear trend and there are already too many projects created with the same goals.   

  That's just a silly assumption. Those who don't understand economics and finance always make such empty statements. Bitcoin really has no value and it only goes up due to sharks pushing prices.
Bitcoin trading or mining bitcoin is not sure to help people get rich because the market is always looking for risks. Many people even go bankrupt due to trust in bitcoin and hold it.

The thing is people are over-crowded in the forum. Individuals with little experience are creating agencies but in turn aren't able to provide satisfactory results to projects, hence projects stopped looking for freelancers in forum or other places you are mentioning. Most of the projects these days hire individuals on referral basis by taking recommendations from others rather than searching in public. So what you can do is, improve the quality of service you provide, make connections, even do some projects for free if you think it will help you to get more work in future.

I also believe that bitcoin freelancing is not over. Way back 2017 freelancing is very effective to obtain profit but because of the bearish market, the process has been slow down. ICOs have almost shutdown that is why freelancing is not been effective right now however, there are still projects that are worth to work with but it is quite rare. Bearish market has been a big impact on Bitcoin freelancing that it goes to the point that trading, investment, and HOLD are the only effective way to earn a profit.

I don't think that bitcoin freelancing is dead. There is still a lot of opportunities out there for those freelancer who love to get their salary in mode of bitcoin. As long as you have a skill or skill set to offer to the market then you will get a lot of offers and after you get an offer, that is when you will negotiate to get your salary in bitcoin and not in cash.

Yes, btc freelancing seems dead. XBTfreelancer put some money in it's project to develop it and make popular but seems their plan failed, there is just not much demand on it and to be fair bitcoin freelancer websites are directly going to be opponent of firverr which is very difficult and also their SEO job seems very hard. Still you have to stick with fiverr and if you want bitcoins, convert it.

Also to answer your last proposal, bitcoin can't alleviate poverty and it's not hard to find work online, bitcoin has to do nothing with it. Bitcoin is just a payment method and currency at the same time which is very different, easy and accessible for most people. Does paypal give you restrictions? Or most part of other payment methods? I guess no.

It is sort of strange since we are at the point of economic cycle where employment should be maxed and there would be huge demand for workers. It makes no sense no one want Bitcoin freelance workers. Something is wrong. Maybe we are in a fake economic growth. Maybe it is just a bubble and there is no real economic growth behind it.  

Better currency doesn't mean that suddenly people/workers were getting more skilled and can offer more services. If the mainstream freelance market is thriving while the bitcoin freelance market decreases, then we can say that bitcoin freelancing is dying.

If the answer is yes, then maybe:
- Paradigm-shifting from currency to an asset/commodity;
- Too much volatility, too slow, too expensive, hence not usable as a currency; and
- Fintech products offer more convenience.

Maybe bitcoin in freelancing now has bad times but I noticed that bitcoin became popular as e-currency. recently, I've been in some forum for programmers and I've been surprised that all people who sell soft prefer to take cryptocurrencies as payment method. In my opinion bitcoin has niches where it's convenient to use him, may that freelancing it's not way for bitcoin's or it's not good developed.

Could be because of the number of altcoins being created.

Try looking for a job online that pays with altcoins.
Some do pay with XRP and some with the unknown coins or not that popular yet.
It could also be because bitcoin is getting popular by now and holders of it may think that it is better to hold it than spend it paying online employees.
Just my theory though but of course it aint that accurate.

I think I will say two things are responsible for that. One is that, when something is new, it creates a hype and people want to be associated with it, they cluster on it like bees.So, the first leads to the second. Therefore, because they have clustered on it, they available space because unavailable with time because of high demand.
That is what I think has happened so far. Some of those freelancing jobs could see be available but because many people like you are now in need of such jobs, it can't go round.

yes you are right since this bear market and the number of ICO scams we have lost freelancing. I usually also work on ICO projects and bounty campaigns to get extra income. or also trade altcoin. but these past few months I haven't done it because the crypto market is in bad condition. but I'm not desperate I will be patiently waiting for bitcoin bulls. when bitcoin bull I'm optimistic that most altcoin will pump. I hope this can be realized in 2020.

This is true, earlier days in this forum, a lot of projects look for people who would like to apply for a certain task or job, as time goes by projects' preference when looking for someone to hire becomes to high that it requires someone being a blockchain expert, or someone who has a certain experience or a professional. Also, not to mention just before the bear market there's a lot of successful ICO and there's a lot of job opportunites, when the bear market started the demand and fame of new successful project flopped.

I think that the number of freelancers who want to earn money in Bitcoins will increase significantly when the current bearish trend in the cryptocurrency market will be replaced by a bullish one. Freelancers are afraid, for example, that while they perform the order, for example within 1 week, the Bitcoin rate can significantly decrease and in fact they will receive a smaller fee for their work. I believe that the decrease in the interest of freelancers to pay for their services in cryptocurrency lies just in the bearish trend in the cryptocurrency market.

This. As simple as possible!

Just because there is a new payment method it doesn't mean there will be people asking for services
It won't happen with the freelance, with groceries, with the car industry, the market was already oversaturated with payment options and what is more important with people willing to do jobs!


One of the stupid theories we both agree is bs in the past.
It's the same thing as thinking just adopting bitcoin and Somalia ry will start producing racecars, satellites and 69 generation fighter planes.

Ok, you're allowed to work, BUT for who? If there is no demand for services, there is no demand for your work.
And while bitcoin can create a small improvement regarding fees and help those services become cheaper this tiny advantage was offset by the increased number of freelancers with internet access in poor countries compared to the minimal growth in demand from developed countries.

Nice, I tried to edit this twenty times till I managed to delete it :'(

Yeah, and I think that's where the disappointment from people comes. They thought Bitcoin was going to open up new possibilities, new work, and yes, in theory, I suppose in terms of industry, there is more work these days, but more compliance roles needed for crypto-related business, more engineering jobs for coders and what not, but it's not exactly the way people thought it would be.

I'm a freelancer, and I accept Bitcoin.

Bitcoin didn't make me a freelancer.

And totally agree on all the other things. Bitcoin's not a magic disrupting tool. And even if it were, if people aren't really using it the way it was meant to be, then we'll not see things happen faster.

basically even casual online jobs paying in bitcoin can still be considered a freelance job.We can actually offer our skills and talents to someone in need. And in the process of negotiation, it is indeed a good decision to ask for the payment method to be in BTC. In this case, people who doesn't aware of what bitcoin is could be fascinated how seamless the transaction and at the sametime, we induces xrypto and bitcoin market adoption.

Bitcoin freelancing or doing such jobs in order to be paid by bitcoin will never been abandoned, why did you say that bitcoin freelancing is dead? Is it because you didn't see nowadays some people who are working and paying them through bitcoins? I still see some online jobs which are the payment is through bitcoin, I have a friend of mine that is working through online teaching and they are paying them through the used of bitcoin or cryptocurrency and I must say that this is a bitcoin freelancing.

myabe OP didn't search any work with bitcoin payment well.as we see in our signature , in every post we paid with bitcoin.and there are many other projects with bitcoin payment that mostly handled by yahoo and hamppuzz. Remote job and freelancing give us various work and oppportunity to earn money, moreover if it paid with bitcoin .we could directly convert to fiat when we want.

Wearing our signature may also be called a bitcoin freelancing in which we are paid for our posts and comments in the forum and we are paid through the used of bitcoin and I can say that this is also a form of bitcoin freelancing in which we are earning through the used of our signatures and we can transfer it into fiat to become our local currency. As what I've see all of the jobs or works that the payment was made of by bitcoin is called bitcoin freelancing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I am not sure that freelancing industry is completely dead but what i think is that they have suffered loss due to the dump situation in market and ICO's also have been reduced but with the growth in prices and market recovery we the industry will also grow.Still we can find freelancers but the main problem is to find a legit project which litterally pays for the job as most of them are scams these days.But hope they will also move actively shortly.

Why not work for fiat and then exchange those to bitcoins as simple as that? If you do really look for some work then you can find for sure knowing freelancing sites
do have lots of works to offer even though they arent giving out Bitcoin payment option but its doesnt mean that this industry is dying.Just like what being said where people
do have those false hopes that Bitcoin do give out wider opportunities in terms of work production but it doesnt work on this way.

Bitcoin freelancing for me is base on the price, the higher the price the more project available and the more job created, and this time that the price is too low there are only few opportunities for someone doing freelancing. Only those people who has a good reputation can get a good project to handle.

But it is also a good thing for someone who can manage campaign because there are lots of low rank in the bounty section that can manage a campaign and showcase their skills.

Even if the prices are fluctuating, we can use certain altcoins as a source of payments in the field of freelancing because they don’t undergo significant changes during dips or pumps. Bitcoin could be limited to few freelancing projects that really need some hard work and professionals to handle it. I guess it would be great initiative if cryptos are used in freelancing.

You are wrong, signature campaigns are absolutely not freelancing, here's a definition of freelancer from Wikipedia:


Signature campaigns count as long-term commitment, I haven been a member of my signature campaign for almost 3 years already. Do not mix "online earning" with freelance, freelance is only a subset of the former. Additionally, signature campaigns aren't a good career, they are just a phenomenon caused by the importance of Bitcointalk in Bitcoin's emerging economy, they can and most likely will vanish at one day.

You are really right about the freelancer and the signature of the company.  Before I started cryptocurrency, I was a freelancer and earned money through the Internet, doing various tasks, from writing thematic texts to creating specific programs and architecture for various resources.  Indeed, the signature company is a temporary phenomenon, although not only on bitcointalk, but also on several other sites offer to engage in such activities.  But if you look from the point of view of the final result of this activity, then all this activity is advertising in favor of some companies and if you exclude the company’s signature on bitcointalk, then the entire Bounty company can exist not only to advertise new projects, but also to progress existing ones  companies.

Check out the website https://crypto.jobs/ there are tons of work there with `remote` option available. I mean there are thousands of views on each of them given enough time and that means you have one in a thousands chance to get that job but at least you can see that people are still hiring.

For every business that starts to hire people for bitcoin there are hundreds of people who are looking for work, so freelance didn't die, there is just more competition now. There is actually more work to be done via online working (aka freelance or remote work) but at the same time there are more people who would like to make money that way, hence even when there is more work to do there is also less work to do since it is harder to get hired and get paid as well.

Sad but true I used to do a lot of gigs and hire people for a gig in Fiverr, they used to accept Bitcoin for all their gigs but now they disable Bitcoin, and they still have no announcement if they are still going to accept Bitcoin again, Fiverr was a good opportunity for freelancers who wants to work for Bitcoin but after it was disabled, we have not seen a good and popular marketplace that hires people to do task for Bitcoin.
There were a lot of ICO's that plans to create one but they all failed miserably in the market, people are still hoping, Bitcoin could be a life saver for those who want to work from home doing a task.

I believe this is normal. There are not so many opportunities in this model because even growing in popularity many people still do not see btc as a form of payment but rather as an investment (like gold). When this thinking about btc changes I believe that several opportunities will be created.

in my opinion freelancing is not dead because if we are patient waiting and searching there are still honest ICO projects that we can follow. and also following the airdrop and bounty campaign. although the ICO project was not as busy as it was in 2017. I think it can still be a side job. these past two years we rarely get good projects because we are in the bear market. I am optimistic that when bitcoin bulls there will be many projects that we can do again. and we can also do daily trading.

thats only a theory but there is no real agreement for bitcoin and employers ( or vice versa ) that they will provide freelance jobs as offering to the unfortunate ones.

. anyway i still agree on your observation that free lancing sites for cryptos are not really active because im also one of those people who lurk online to find some sideline jobs but sadly thats only what i end up .   there are those active freelance sites but they dont accept or pay crypto and the slots are limited plus its not easy to apply for them .

Sad to hear that, but most probably it is because of all the volatility of bitcoin. Companies or institutions are hard pressed to keep bitcoin reserves because of the risk that the value will suddenly increase or decrease because whatever value they have, they still have to pay a fixed amount of regular operating expenses.

If we see more adoption and stabler valuations I'm sure this can easily change for the better.

The situation is moving very fast, and what was valid yesterday is not necessarily the case today.
Many amateurs have - fortunately - disappeared from the market, and consequently those who remain still demand a much higher level of professionalism.

everything very dinamic in market.day by day market has different condition.if could not follow this changes i am sure we will be the one who deleted from crypto market.bitcoin freelancing actually has many opportunity to earn money, there are many job provided here.unfortunately most of them didnt understand how to catch it.

I think your looking at this in a wrong method, I wouldn't argue that Bitcoin freelancing is dead as a whole, but instead freelancing as a whole has been going downhill ever since everything has become a lot more professional.

The only companies that ever really hired freelancers are the new startups that would like to save a couple of bucks and go with a design/marketing/development agency, or a regular person who can't afford that much.

With the industry becoming a lot more professional and less start up and crypto start ups that are popping up, we are obviously going to see the market shrink.

I strongly disagree too that freelancing in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency is dead, it is not dead, the opportunity on it has just lessen compare to the past few years where there's a lot of opportunity surrounding the telegram, internet, bitcointalk. But, there are still some opportunities, we just need to check out on ourselves. 

The competitions between employee is now getting tighter since a lots of people/professionals who wanted to work online is really increasing, you need to sell your skills and make sure that you really deserve the position or you can lowered your rate and work with those employers who are seeking
for slaves.

In regards to those sites that mentioned by OP, interest has been decreased because the employers and employees who's not really in around
this industry are getting disappointed with volatile nature of bitcoin, price is keep changing so instead of using this payment process they might
stayed with regular fiat and find the service that they've needed/offered.

Thousands of views over 47 jobs posted in 2 months.
What does that say to you?
In the real world, it would be called unemployment, in this environment, it's called head to McDonald's and start flipping burgers.

This will have a lot of further effects in the market, one of which is that will a lot of people willing to work, prices will drop, you won't be able to charge the customer too much as he has a lot to choose from. And the tricky part is that with no government involvement (lols, love the irony in this one) there is no minimum wage in freelancing, so if somebody decides he is willing to do the job for 2$ an hour, he will get it and ...there is no unemployment benefit either.....


Lols, I think I have seen tens of ICOs that were claiming they will solve the problem of freelancers and they will get you better payments better ....everything. But if you use common sense and realize that no matter what technology you have at hand if you don't have water you can't grow fish, it was clear from the start that all those projects depend on people that are offering those jobs
And if there is no offer, you can't create them from this air...

The reason behind this change is the present strength of bitcoin. Bitcoin always had the potential to survive but no one can deny the fact that campaigns played a vital role in its success too. Now trading is the most beneficial way of making money from bitcoin or increasing the its amount. There is blogging and options like making youtube channel regarding bitcoin or come up with one’s own business.

The reason is simple - bitcoin is very volatile. For example, you agreed with the employer on 0.2 bitcoin. And the next day he fell 2 times. Freelancers do not want to work because of this risk. Therefore, many go to bounty and airdrops from other projects

True enough, rather than grieving on what happened, make yourself more productive and search for alternatives of it, as long as we are earning bitcoin no matter what services it is (it should be legal), it is still an achievement and it means that bitcoin is fulfilling its promises and its job to help people, we just have to look on different angle to see other opportunities to help us.

We could not rely to bitcoin all the works, there is a saying that "actions speaks louder than voice"

Cryptocurrencies usually follow the existing trend flows such as when trading there are trend rises and downtrend. As the style event model has its time and will be replaced more efficiently and crowded.
It is true that I think bitcoins help reduce poverty like myself since I participated in promotions and other prizes. However, we must at all times be ready if there is a new trend model like the ICO is constantly dying and moving to IEO.

Agree with you, my friends are also doing Bitcoin freelancing and up to this date, they are still here in cryptocurrency, doing some job, they even have some offer too, but they refuse to accept some as they are already loaded with what they are doing, so I doubt that freelancing is already dead, it's not true.

Freelancing will not become dead even after 10 years. Freelancing is one of the most underrated type of job because some of the people are skeptical with freelancing since they think that the salary is not stable and it is not like the regular job but they are wrong because you could possibly earn more in freelancing compare to other jobs because you are so flexible with your time and you can accept as much as client you want.

i think that the problem and the reason is not the way people get paid, by cash or by bitcoin, the market itself, the meta has changed.
now I think outsourcing is the king of the jungle and that is very different story with it  own way of negotiations, payments and so on..

I don't see that the bitcoin freelancing is dead because as we can see there is a bounty and signature campaigns in which we can say that it is a bitcoin freelancing because we are working in exchange of a bitcoin and we can see that bitcoin freelancing is any job that is paid by bitcoin and other coins, so we can say that bitcoin freelancing is not dead because until now there is a job that is paid by bitcoin.

And how many campaigns out there that are being paid with Bitcoin? There are only a handful. And these jobs are actually bounty related. It may still be considered a freelancing job. However, I want to see more of freelancing jobs such as article writing, SEOs, programming, virtual assistance, and so many more that will be paying in Bitcoin. There was a time when projects were created on the freelancing industry. But they seemed to be faring less than good.

Was that what satoshi really promised in his abstract or what we chose to believe of bitcoin when we got to know about it? And I think some of these misconceptions of bitcoin are caused by the people that actually introduced it to us, but we should have ourselves made findings on all these before we openly broadcast it.

There are so many benefits of bitcoin, and it is left to us to actually explore it and use it to our own benefit which may intend alleviate poverty, but the sole work of bitcoin is to create a peer transaction. Since the market became tight a little, it is been difficult to get bitcoin freelance jobs, but there are still other ways like trading that you can use to still make your daily income from bitcoin if you learn how to really do so.

tight or indemand must lead to explosion of jobs and careers  . these days we can now find many sites that offers jobs and pays in crypto when compare to before but then again the competition is tight  .

trading is not easy but still learnable however the problem is that trading is not free  . you still need to find a job to earn and you can then use those funds to start trading  .

I hate to admit it but you are right, ICOs are politicians that's better at making promises but never fulfilling it, they do all the talking but they lack in actions, they are just after our money and support, after that, they will throw our efforts and trust on trash cans like nothing. ICOs are the human, we are the fish, and they put us on a very nice aquarium and feed us (false hope) and when after we made them happy (by making their ICO a success)

they will break that aquarium leaving the all fish dies that can't breathe without water.

To be honest, it is not what Satoshi envision.


Of course there are so many ways, after all bitcoin is still in it's infancy, 10 years? damn, that was young if you are going to have a market comparison. So as it mature, it also evolved, it could be used as peer to peer transaction, then it will become sound money. Just maybe in the future freelancing job will also evolved and be mature enough to accept bitcoin as payment method.

I don't think it is totally dead you can check the service section, it has a lot of freelancers that offer various works in exchange for Bitcoin, and we have many signature promoter who gets paid in Bitcoin by promoting various projects like gambling, mixer and exchanges, it's not totally dead, we just lack one big marketplace like Fiverr, that will housed every Bitcoin related freelancers.

It is quite easy to settle if the value they will choose will not depend on the market price of the crypto/bitcoin itself. But to consider that USD or stable coin conversion so they will have the same standard on how they will set the price for each services that they will offer and accept. Most of the time, this is happening as the main example are the bounty campaigns that has the rate of USD in their Bitcoin payment.

In my personal opinion i will conclude that free premium job listing bitcoin freelancing services like https://www.xbtfreelancer.com are dead but there is one that requires an upgrade that still operates actively https://crypto.jobs requires $199 upgrade fees.

I really miss https://www.xbtfreelancer.com  >:( >:( >:(

Yes, you are right. it is not dead. some freelancers are taking their move and find any job on crypto on their own. it is affect because of market but we are not blaming the market the most because a lot of projects now are not finding any much freelancers. everyone are worried too much on what is happening. freelancers are multiplied and you can find them anywhere in social media's. every each of them are hard worker and find crypto a better solution in future. 

its not dead, the salary is not like last year, and thats why people said that its dead, or bitcoin popularity down, etc. if you searching more and more. you will find the best. and its not give you high salary, but it will give you some token that have big potential in the future

The market just isn't mature enough yet. We are still in the volatile phase of crypto, it might honestly take years to go mainstream to the extent that it will support a freelancer platform.

Another issue is lack of escrow.

But really it's the same reason why there aren't so many other mature services for crypto.

Even though bitcoin is almost fully mined, it's still volatile.

Things will only change when the masses can easily get their hands on crypto and I don't mean via an online exchange.

It's a shame that there isn't a whale out there who could just give away say 100 bucks of bitcoin in some kind of postcode lottery. Not too much that people would use an exchange but enough that people will just spend it instead.

I agree with that. It is all about searching for the possible opportunities in the world of cryptocurrency to see some projects that could be the next big thing in the market of cryptocurrencies. It is all about having dedication and you should be patient also because with this type of market, it is harder than before to find decent source of income because of the negative movement of the market.

Popularity had decreased when the market suddenly slumped down but it doesnt mean that freelancing is dead.Bitcoin jobs is just part of the industry.
Freelance works does still exist and in demand but blockchain related works had decreased down thats why it isnt really right to generalize it all for it to be dead.
But somehow we can still see few numbers of jobs asked but mostly this will be related to programming/coding, marketing, development etc.

Crypto.jobs looks too new to ask so much for its users. But it does have a great domain and I think this will actually be a good link that will rank on top of its searches.  I haven't really got a job from xbtfreelancer but I know there were employers there.

There are several more of the trusted job sites like Ethlance which you will have to pay ETH every time you do something. Kind of odd actually that instead of you getting paid, you first have to pay.

Indeed, the job market for freelancers, the activities of which are paid for by cryptocurrency, is really very small and is still a novelty.  Perhaps some cases of offers in past years were really phenomenal, because at that time everyone could make good money with the help of cryptocurrency, even if we take for example the Bounty Hunters.  Nevertheless, the payment for freelancers with the help of cryptocurrency is very specific in itself and I am sure that it will not be of a mass nature until the cryptocurrency is widely used in everyday life of a person.

I am not sure whether you tried for cryptocurrency work in Fiverr or not
There you can find the people offering cryptocurrency services for the PayPal and fiat mode of payment for many works. People whoever not aware of the such available options will say they are unable to find more works.

In hindsight bitcoin will help everyone to work without any restrictions but the major issue is the economic slowdown is the major issue i am seeing right now as no one is coming forward to spend money for any new projects and that will affect the freelance market too, you can feel the slowdown in every sector and it is not targeted to any specific country, the slowdown is felt worldwide.

So, depending here shouldn't be, we have those other options wherein we can life our life, cryptocurrency freelance is just an option, alternative way, and just for extra income, but this should not be your only source of income, unless you are already expert in day trading, wherein you can earn a lot thru short term trading. Freelancing is not just about crypto, so we should maximize our time properly with other things too.

In my opinion, more and more people are buying bitcoins just to have an investment in the future or for rainy days, they aren't using bitcoins for normal transactions. The reason behind is the higher fees for transaction as compared to those days where a couple dollars were enough for the transaction to be propagated in the next block or two, but now about every exchange is charging about $10 or more than that for sending bitcoins to any wallet.