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Economy => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: NinjaBitcoiner on October 23, 2019, 08:05:51 AM



Title: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: NinjaBitcoiner on October 23, 2019, 08:05:51 AM
Hi folks,

I miss directbet.eu days where we placed the bet and if we win bet is settled in minutes and sent directly to the bitcoin address without any BS like manual withdraws,KYC shit etc. What an amazing sportsbook it was.I wonder why no one yet came up with similar idea after directbet shuts it's doors ::)
Anyway, I want the opinion of experienced betters here is there any reliable old sports betting platform that fullfill following criteria?

1. NO KYC. Not for withdrawals under 5 BTC.
2. Instant Withdraw

I don't care if there is any deposit bonus or not. I just need a reliable betting platform where if i win the winnings can be cashed out immediately without struggle and waiting.
Genuine users opinions please no paid promoters.

Thank you all


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: BigBoy89 on October 23, 2019, 09:44:12 AM
The closest you will get to NO KYC + up to 5btc + Instant withdraws are

NitrogenSports (https://nitrogensports.eu/)
BitcoinRush (https://www.bitcoinrush.io/)
Fairlay (https://fairlay.com/)

Withdraws are NOT instant, but they are fast enough.
And there is no KYC if you don't try something stupid like double-spending.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: Kasabus on October 23, 2019, 09:49:57 AM
Sportsbet does not require KYC and the have instant withdrawal and deposit, I am just not sure with the limit on btc withdrawals for non KYC accounts as I am not risking 1 btc or more in sports betting, IIRC, the biggest withdrawals I made with sportsbet is 0.1 btc.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: Darker45 on October 23, 2019, 10:27:38 AM
Sportsbet does not require KYC and the have instant withdrawal and deposit, I am just not sure with the limit on btc withdrawals for non KYC accounts as I am not risking 1 btc or more in sports betting, IIRC, the biggest withdrawals I made with sportsbet is 0.1 btc.

Sportsbet offers instant withdrawals and deposits up to a certain amount only. If I am not mistaken, they will process huge withdrawals manually and so it will take more time than doing small transactions. How huge is huge to them, I do not exactly know. But most probably 1 or 2 BTC is not considered a huge amount. What I also know is that they have a minimum amount for withdrawal. I am not sure which preferred crypto is OP using in his bets but when it comes to BTC sportsbet's minimum is 0.002BTC, Ethereum is 0.02 ETH, and Litecoin is 0.2 LTC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: panjul07 on October 23, 2019, 10:45:05 AM
Sportsbet does not require KYC and the have instant withdrawal and deposit, I am just not sure with the limit on btc withdrawals for non KYC accounts as I am not risking 1 btc or more in sports betting, IIRC, the biggest withdrawals I made with sportsbet is 0.1 btc.

Sportsbet offers instant withdrawals and deposits up to a certain amount only. If I am not mistaken, they will process huge withdrawals manually and so it will take more time than doing small transactions. How huge is huge to them, I do not exactly know. But most probably 1 or 2 BTC is not considered a huge amount. What I also know is that they have a minimum amount for withdrawal. I am not sure which preferred crypto is OP using in his bets but when it comes to BTC sportsbet's minimum is 0.002BTC, Ethereum is 0.02 ETH, and Litecoin is 0.2 LTC.

If you read the T&C page of sportsbet then you'll find that they reserves the right to ask KYC for withdrawal exceeding 1BTC or 2000 EURO. So if OP is betting up to 5BTC then high likely he will need to do KTC unless he is going to bet and win under 1BTC. Otherwise he need to find other sites, probably Nitrogensports or betcoin.ag can be alternative but OP need to make sure about the terms of each site so there wont be serious issue once he is betting or withdrawing money.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: ChrisPop on October 23, 2019, 10:49:34 AM
Try dbet.io sportsbook. It is the closest I could find to directbet.eu. No need for KYC and you don't even need to have an account. Just choose the event, pick and send the btc. If you have a winner then your gains will be sent directly to your address. The interface is easy to use.. don't have much to complain about.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: bitcoin31 on October 23, 2019, 11:15:34 AM
Many players gives their suggesstion about what bitcoin sportsbook who have instant withdraw and having not requiring a KYC.
Im a player and once a gambling sites have KYC or the withdraw takes few hours before process I will leave it and not play or in the first place I did not play to it. For now most of the sportbook are not need KYC so you can choose a lot .


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: NinjaBitcoiner on October 26, 2019, 10:41:54 AM
Try dbet.io sportsbook. It is the closest I could find to directbet.eu. No need for KYC and you don't even need to have an account. Just choose the event, pick and send the btc. If you have a winner then your gains will be sent directly to your address. The interface is easy to use.. don't have much to complain about.

Has anyone tried this? This site looks so shady and smells scam  :P


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: virasog on October 26, 2019, 11:04:29 AM
Try dbet.io sportsbook. It is the closest I could find to directbet.eu. No need for KYC and you don't even need to have an account. Just choose the event, pick and send the btc. If you have a winner then your gains will be sent directly to your address. The interface is easy to use.. don't have much to complain about.

Has anyone tried this? This site looks so shady and smells scam  :P

How can you say that the site is scam ? Do you have any proof ?
You can visit here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168849.0 to get all the information and reviews about the dbet.io site. This site is not a replacement for directbet but you do not have to make an account there to bet and hence old directbet users will like it


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: mersal on October 26, 2019, 11:53:58 AM
Nitrogensports and sportbet might fall into your criteria but remember that they might ask you to submit KYC if there is a need or when they want to know in your country gambling is legal.On nitrogensports you can create your anonymous account and instant withdrawals are also available.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: stadus on October 26, 2019, 12:02:13 PM
Sportsbet does not require KYC and the have instant withdrawal and deposit, I am just not sure with the limit on btc withdrawals for non KYC accounts as I am not risking 1 btc or more in sports betting, IIRC, the biggest withdrawals I made with sportsbet is 0.1 btc.

Sportsbet offers instant withdrawals and deposits up to a certain amount only. If I am not mistaken, they will process huge withdrawals manually and so it will take more time than doing small transactions. How huge is huge to them, I do not exactly know. But most probably 1 or 2 BTC is not considered a huge amount. What I also know is that they have a minimum amount for withdrawal. I am not sure which preferred crypto is OP using in his bets but when it comes to BTC sportsbet's minimum is 0.002BTC, Ethereum is 0.02 ETH, and Litecoin is 0.2 LTC.

If you read the T&C page of sportsbet then you'll find that they reserves the right to ask KYC for withdrawal exceeding 1BTC or 2000 EURO. So if OP is betting up to 5BTC then high likely he will need to do KTC unless he is going to bet and win under 1BTC. Otherwise he need to find other sites, probably Nitrogensports or betcoin.ag can be alternative but OP need to make sure about the terms of each site so there wont be serious issue once he is betting or withdrawing money.
I think there is no site that offers instant withdrawal for a huge withdrawal amount like 5 btc, even 1 btc is already a big amount at the current price so I am not expecting any site would do instant processing. Based on my experience with several sportsbook in crypto, only sportsbet has an instant processing of withdrawal that's why I keep on betting with this site for NBA games.

For me, I think it's not necessary to have instant withdrawal, with big amount, the reputation of the site is more important and if I were in OP's shoes, I could wait if it will take time to process as long as I can assure that I will receive my withdrawal request.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: Lanatsa on October 26, 2019, 12:07:44 PM
https://www.onehash.com/

You can make direct deposit and withdrawal but for sure they do have maximum amount.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: notblox1 on October 26, 2019, 12:31:44 PM
Hi folks,

I miss directbet.eu days where we placed the bet and if we win bet is settled in minutes and sent directly to the bitcoin address without any BS like manual withdraws,KYC shit etc. What an amazing sportsbook it was.I wonder why no one yet came up with similar idea after directbet shuts it's doors ::)
Anyway, I want the opinion of experienced betters here is there any reliable old sports betting platform that fullfill following criteria?

1. NO KYC. Not for withdrawals under 5 BTC.
2. Instant Withdraw

I don't care if there is any deposit bonus or not. I just need a reliable betting platform where if i win the winnings can be cashed out immediately without struggle and waiting.
Genuine users opinions please no paid promoters.

Thank you all

I think dbet.io is offering this option, and you can also do direct betting with Bitcoin, without account.

Other option is:
https://www.betcoin.ag

I think they don't have mandatory kyc, and withdrawals are almost instant.
I am not sure about any limits.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: stadus on October 26, 2019, 01:27:56 PM
https://www.onehash.com/

You can make direct deposit and withdrawal but for sure they do have maximum amount.
OP is talking about 1 whole BTC here or more and the site you recommended, I don't even see 1 whole BTC in the "IN BANK", and we should also consider the difference between onehash an a regular sportsbook as they don't have the same odds.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: Reatim on October 26, 2019, 01:30:20 PM
Many players gives their suggesstion about what bitcoin sportsbook who have instant withdraw and having not requiring a KYC.
Im a player and once a gambling sites have KYC or the withdraw takes few hours before process I will leave it and not play or in the first place I did not play to it. For now most of the sportbook are not need KYC so you can choose a lot .
So which’s are those sites that you are leaving if withdrawals takes few hours and the sites that you are playing right now since you are a Gambler?
Can you share us some of them? Lol 😂


Anyway for OP this is what you need to look for complete sets of sites that you are looking for

https://btcplaymania.com/anonymous-bitcoin-casinos

Though still it’s your decisions what to choose and I am not vouching for any of those as I don’t wanna be blamed Incase lol 🙂


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: Yatsan on October 26, 2019, 02:31:36 PM
Many players gives their suggesstion about what bitcoin sportsbook who have instant withdraw and having not requiring a KYC.
Im a player and once a gambling sites have KYC or the withdraw takes few hours before process I will leave it and not play or in the first place I did not play to it. For now most of the sportbook are not need KYC so you can choose a lot .
So which’s are those sites that you are leaving if withdrawals takes few hours and the sites that you are playing right now since you are a Gambler?
Can you share us some of them? Lol 😂


Anyway for OP this is what you need to look for complete sets of sites that you are looking for

https://btcplaymania.com/anonymous-bitcoin-casinos

Though still it’s your decisions what to choose and I am not vouching for any of those as I don’t wanna be blamed Incase lol 🙂
This list is actually good. personally I am actually using Cloudbet whenever it comes to sports-betting, the transaction is fast (not instant as OP says but it's faster than other website). and yes cloudbet is register and play type of website, I don't know why it's listed as "Often asks" for verification status. In terms of withdrawal it's also fast so I have no problem with this website regarding that. This is my personal pick and just suggestion.

Website link: https://www.cloudbet.com/en/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: 2double0 on October 26, 2019, 02:34:40 PM
I searched out and found an interesting guide over sportsbetting with BTC, give it a read and find yourself a suitable sportsbetting provider: https://smartbettingguide.com/crypto-sports-betting/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: dothebeats on October 26, 2019, 05:03:00 PM
NitrogenSports (https://nitrogensports.eu/)

I'd like to also add that there are times when withdrawals take longer time, though you have the community mods at the chat for pushing your withdrawal request. The lads in Nitrogensports are easy to deal with and yes, they don't have the crazy KYC rules unlike any other sportsbook out there. Been a regular for over a few years now and have cashed in and out a lot of BTC in the site, with the largest somewhere between 4-6 BTC during the NBA season of 2018. They may not offer the best lines out there but they are very responsive for the most part--and withdraws + KYC isn't a pain in the ass.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: RealMalatesta on October 26, 2019, 05:19:11 PM
You may try onehash for bitcoin deposit/withdraw for your sportsbetting and for no-KYC.

But you need to remember that all the gambling houses are reserving the right to block your account and enforce you to clear KYC at their own discretion. Because, this is for preventing money-laundering or cheating their house. Usually gamblers face the problem of submitting their documents when they are winning big.

Even now a days gambling houses are having bitcoin and other stealth coins for playing with them, they will ask for your documents when they suspect about your activities. So, it will be always good to be ready for clearing KYC norms. I believe there cannot be any exception with any crypto gambling house.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: ReiMomo on October 26, 2019, 05:21:59 PM
You can check your own and here is the full list made by DarkStar_. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5040737.0

Can I stay anonymous?
Betcoin and Nitrogen and won't ask for KYC. Sportsbet.io, Cloudbet and mBitCasino don't require KYC, but may request that you do it. BitcoinRush doesn't require it, but they 'reserve the right' and seem to have a profit limit for those who don't KYC. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=228243.msg47452996#msg47452996)

Probably KYC now is very common when you are acquired to withdraw a big amount. There's nothing wrong with KYC if there someone you afraid of and hiding. For me, hiding is just like a criminal but if the reason it didn't having trust to submit your documents then, avoid them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: NinjaBitcoiner on October 26, 2019, 05:56:56 PM

Probably KYC now is very common when you are acquired to withdraw a big amount. There's nothing wrong with KYC if there someone you afraid of and hiding. For me, hiding is just like a criminal but if the reason it didn't having trust to submit your documents then, avoid them.

The whole point of crypto betting is to be anonymous while betting and maintain privacy. Why would someone bet with crypto if they want to do KYC they can bet with fiat at bet365 or something no  ::)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: ralle14 on October 27, 2019, 05:23:41 PM
The whole point of crypto betting is to be anonymous while betting and maintain privacy. Why would someone bet with crypto if they want to do KYC they can bet with fiat at bet365 or something no  ::)
Many prefer avoiding KYC but still there are people who don't mind doing these when using cryptocurrencies. For me, I only use crypto sportsbooks because it's much better to use since you don't have to give your information and KYC is probably one of the things that'll cause inconvenience if you're gambling. Also when making accounts you just need an email or username then password.

Few sportsbook that haven't been mentioned are betbit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5056786.0) and betonbit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122739.0).


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: audaciousbeing on October 27, 2019, 07:02:30 PM
Hi folks,

I miss directbet.eu days where we placed the bet and if we win bet is settled in minutes and sent directly to the bitcoin address without any BS like manual withdraws,KYC shit etc. What an amazing sportsbook it was.I wonder why no one yet came up with similar idea after directbet shuts it's doors ::)
Anyway, I want the opinion of experienced betters here is there any reliable old sports betting platform that fullfill following criteria?

1. NO KYC. Not for withdrawals under 5 BTC.
2. Instant Withdraw

I don't care if there is any deposit bonus or not. I just need a reliable betting platform where if i win the winnings can be cashed out immediately without struggle and waiting.
Genuine users opinions please no paid promoters.

Thank you all

For the sites that have been suggested to fall under your criteria, just be careful to keep your funds because any site can change its policies over night and they are not under any obligation to notify you of such change because its part of the acceptance you have made for agreeing to use their services. When they change it, they might go to the extreme of ensuring that KYC is done before withdrawal can be done on any balance whatsoever. At that point, you are left with whether to either comply or leave your funds with them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: shoreno on October 29, 2019, 11:15:30 AM
For the sites that have been suggested to fall under your criteria, just be careful to keep your funds because any site can change its policies over night and they are not under any obligation to notify you of such change because its part of the acceptance you have made for agreeing to use their services. When they change it, they might go to the extreme of ensuring that KYC is done before withdrawal can be done on any balance whatsoever. At that point, you are left with whether to either comply or leave your funds with them.

ouch that was bad if that happen  . for sure that he will left his funds frozen on there because the op didnt like kyc and other hustle stuffs based on his explanations but its the websites obligation to show if what changes have made  .  its not usuall to see a site or a platform that change rules without thier costumers knowing it because that is verry unprofesional  in my opinion  especially in terms of kyc and manual withdrew stuffs because our funds is at risk here  .


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: Avirunes on October 29, 2019, 11:41:41 AM
-snip-

Basis on what you have I suggest you try Fortunejack. They instantly settle the bets and have good options in your bet. Recently they have been helding some withdrawals for security check but they usually instantly process the withdraws as well (as I have experienced). It's just that they are checking for multiple account abuses.

I haven't faced KYC in Fortunejack yet.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: romero121 on October 29, 2019, 12:51:44 PM
Hi folks,

I miss directbet.eu days where we placed the bet and if we win bet is settled in minutes and sent directly to the bitcoin address without any BS like manual withdraws,KYC shit etc. What an amazing sportsbook it was.I wonder why no one yet came up with similar idea after directbet shuts it's doors ::)
Anyway, I want the opinion of experienced betters here is there any reliable old sports betting platform that fullfill following criteria?

1. NO KYC. Not for withdrawals under 5 BTC.
2. Instant Withdraw

I don't care if there is any deposit bonus or not. I just need a reliable betting platform where if i win the winnings can be cashed out immediately without struggle and waiting.
Genuine users opinions please no paid promoters.

Thank you all
Dbet (https://dbet.io) is the only gambling sportsbook that's been developed with similar features of directbet.eu which is the one that was popular for all forms of gambling from dice to sports betting. It is the one that has got almost each and every games listed.

From my experience Dbet (https://dbet.io) has the features as directbet, but this isn't that trusted and the withdrawal and deposits weren't that instant as the all time good directbet. You can have a try, maybe this might satisfy your needs.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: axicron on October 29, 2019, 01:51:55 PM
NitrogenSports is indeed an option in your case as it is anonymous and I have never seen anyone complained about they request KYC (though, enabling 2fa is needed to be able to withdraw for account security, but that's not a big deal at all).
OneHash is also anonymous and you can also bet without registration, but the amount of bet is limited due to mutual-betting system.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: ralle14 on October 31, 2019, 10:21:54 PM
NitrogenSports is indeed an option in your case as it is anonymous and I have never seen anyone complained about they request KYC (though, enabling 2fa is needed to be able to withdraw for account security, but that's not a big deal at all).
OneHash is also anonymous and you can also bet without registration, but the amount of bet is limited due to mutual-betting system.
Both of these from my experience are good sportsbook but their withdrawal times are getting worse due to batch payments. They used to be instant(from few minutes to not more than an hour) but now it usually takes hours to get sent to your address. Also OP had problems with Nitrogen but it was cleared after a few days I doubt he'll be allowed to use them since his account was closed afterwards.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: magneto on October 31, 2019, 10:29:58 PM
No KYC is relative. Not absolute.

All sites will have clauses in their ToS in terms of being able to hold user funds if they suspect illegal actions, and identify the users before they are able to withdraw.

Sites like Nitrogen and others who are known for "no kyc" simply are more lax on this front than others. While others like sportsbet.io and cloudbet seems to have some form of history with holding user funds.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: rodel caling on October 31, 2019, 10:37:49 PM
Honestly I can't experience withdrawal of huge amount came from sport betting 5btc is very expensive amount to withdraw without asking KYC I am not sure if have sportbetting allowing to withdraw without requirements like KYC . But a lot of crypto online betting not asking  KYC for withdrawal depends in the amount limit.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on October 31, 2019, 11:23:27 PM
I’ve been using Nitrogensports for quite sometime now and I did not experience any problem with withdrawing my funds. I read somewhere that stake.com has recently launched or planning to launch their sports book. I also used Betcoin.ag before and I did not encounter any problem with withdrawing funds, but their reputation lately is low.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: sana54210 on November 01, 2019, 11:24:01 AM
I read somewhere that stake.com has recently launched or planning to launch their sports book.
Yes, they are entering in sportsbetting side of gambling too after the fine run with primedice and stake houses. Recently they have released their first GUI impressions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2072589.msg52901786#msg52901786) to get this community opinion. I believe their launch will be a big one to revolutionize our sportsbetting experiences.

At this stage, it would be too early to suggest stake to the people like OP as we are not sure about the KYC policy of stake's sportsbetting and time-line for withdraws to be processed.  But as of now, stake.com is not asking us to clear KYC and paying us instantly.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Sportsbook with Instant withdraw and No KYC?
Post by: acarli on December 09, 2019, 09:40:50 PM
https://www.Betbit.com has no KYC and is anonymous. It's a sportsbook and casino.