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Title: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Stanlo on October 26, 2019, 05:15:57 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: DaMut on October 26, 2019, 05:34:43 AM
Same here, I prefer to join a listed project with real value and volume other than participating in something that you do not know and giving us a big number based on their calculation.
there might be some projects out there that could give us more than the listed project, but it is hard to find because there are a few projects created daily. It is like finding a needle in the haystack.
There is one thing I have learned after participating in many bounties before if a project promises you more than $ 1 Million as a bounty pool. The chance for you to get something from it is almost zero. Because they do not care about the value of their token causing the investor to think twice before investing in this kind of project and the majority failed to meet their softcap and closing the business.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Bttzed03 on October 26, 2019, 05:46:07 AM
I would prefer campaigns with coins/tokens already listed on exchanges. It has to have some decent reward pool and reasonable campaign period though before I would join.

Those high rewards and even the "no kyc" are currently being used to lure bounty hunters. Most of these ICO/IEOs will pull some trick during or after the campaign like KYC, reward pool reduction, delay in distribution, or locking rewards. It's an unethical way to do it and only ends up damaging the project at the end.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Strongkored on October 26, 2019, 05:48:28 AM
I always selective to join bounty but now I'm prefer not join even one bounty, it is annoying to report all the task.

For unrealistic rewards is depend all bounty hunters mindset.

Some will say they will not follow bounty where the prize is unrealistic, but surely there will be those who think that joining the bounty with a small allocation will only make you tired because of the small value obtained.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Furryball on October 26, 2019, 05:59:55 AM
This giveaways for promoting projects are too good to be real offers in this present state of crypto market, i will surely turn away from such bounty project if i see one, it means they have no plan to make their coin or token valuable, they will worth almost zero even if it eventually get listed


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Alluro on October 26, 2019, 06:04:46 AM
I have seen some bounty campaigns offering a large number of rewards. But it is not a good idea to future of project and bounty hunters. Because the bounty hunters cannot expect same price when will be listed on exchanges. A large number of reards means the bounty hunters are selling the rewards for low prices. The next thing is the project is losing investors. Because the investors need profit. They are not investing in without research.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: kaneki007 on October 26, 2019, 06:29:24 AM
That is very often by some projects because they want many participants to join their bounties by giving unrealistic allocations. And i often join bounties that have large allocations but when entering the market their tokens are dump or locked for several months


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: ecnalubma on October 26, 2019, 06:38:39 AM
Its a marketing strategy, the allocation might be true but after the ICO (if successful) the market will still dictate the prices. Better choose wisely the right project to participate to minimize wasting efforts, due to its hard to anticipate sometimes your expectations will not match to the outcome.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: perla on October 26, 2019, 06:49:22 AM
Honestly, i usually look for big allocation in bounty campaigns. Although know if it is not means the real price, it said that it is on their ICO price allocation, i still join it. My hope is someday i can get bounty campaign that really give big rewards for people, or maybe really reach their ICO price so we can get exact amount like what said on their thread.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: zeze18 on October 26, 2019, 06:55:48 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?


In late 2017, those rewards maybe real because there are many projects that gives thousands dollar to each participant.
but in current market condition that's almost impossible, maybe that value just their team estimation but when it enter the market , the value could be drop for more than 90%


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: DeepChipolino on October 26, 2019, 07:00:57 AM
First of all, I would like to promote real projects whose teams are focused on the long term. It seems to me that it is strategically correct to contribute to the development of the entire market, and not to chase easy money here and now.
But while my result is fun: I have not earned here, and the market is in stagnation  :) :( :)


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: kolonel_x on October 26, 2019, 07:04:12 AM
Honestly, i usually look for big allocation in bounty campaigns. Although know if it is not means the real price, it said that it is on their ICO price allocation, i still join it. My hope is someday i can get bounty campaign that really give big rewards for people, or maybe really reach their ICO price so we can get exact amount like what said on their thread.

For now it is difficult to find with large allocations but the real results, even though written in millions of dollars in the bounty campaign are only to attract the hunters, why the results are not balanced with what is said on the thread because after the price entered the exchange is always destroyed not even realized by the developer.
so the bounty income is not much in accordance with its work.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Zeke_23 on October 26, 2019, 07:24:30 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?


In late 2017, those rewards maybe real because there are many projects that gives thousands dollar to each participant.
but in current market condition that's almost impossible, maybe that value just their team estimation but when it enter the market , the value could be drop for more than 90%
It was 2 years ago where we can still see a project like this with a huge allocation for bounty campaigns.
Where it is still possible for them to raise up to their target funds during ICO. Nowadays, these rewards are impossible to allocate in bounties. They can't even raise a proper money to fund the project.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: semobo on October 26, 2019, 07:29:50 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?

Its hard to find a project which already listed their token into any real exchange so the hunters were just running with the ICO value but the real price after hitting the exchange won't even 10% of price value from what its been said on the ICO value and the huge discounts will make more worse so better avoiding these projects.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: ReiMomo on October 26, 2019, 07:37:48 AM
The reason that bounty hunters now are always afraid of joining the bounty program. Just like what happened to me last year. I have been joined various bounty programs but I did not yet get any profit until now and some of them disappear and abandon their project and running out the collected fund. So, I won't be wasting my time now joining bounty unless if they are already listed project and have potential about their project.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: CryptoBry on October 26, 2019, 08:03:45 AM
I would prefer campaigns with coins/tokens already listed on exchanges. It has to have some decent reward pool and reasonable campaign period though before I would join. Those high rewards and even the "no kyc" are currently being used to lure bounty hunters. Most of these ICO/IEOs will pull some trick during or after the campaign like KYC, reward pool reduction, delay in distribution, or locking rewards. It's an unethical way to do it and only ends up damaging the project at the end.


Yes, of course, projects which are already listed and traded on some exchanges can be considered as valuable and joining their promotional bounties can be a good decision. I used to be joining projects like that but at the end of the campaign I just received a minimal amount of remuneration all because the projects attracted a horde of people like me. You can say that projects like these can be solid and since they are already on exchanges, once you get your share then it can immediately be liquidated...but what can be its advantage if you will be  receiving only $10 worth of tokens?

In other words, everything can be a risky proposition. One may choose which can be the best among the list of available options. The fact is nobody can really predict which coin/token will make it to the real world. In my experience, there were projects I personally rejected which turn out to be big winners in different exchanges.

Now, it can not be denied that there are bounties and their team who are good at marketing their project even to the point of using hypes and half-lies just to attract people into their respective sphere. Some can really be good at presenting things in different ways and varying views with the ultimate goal of persuading us to join them. Many of these slick talkers are just that and nothing more so we have to be careful.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: NathanJB on October 26, 2019, 08:20:25 AM
Do not just look at the bounty allocation. That is a wrong way of choosing your bounty. You will always end up scammed if that is how you assess whether the bounty is worth taking or not. Beyond the allocation, you should learn to get yourself familiar with the project itself. The most important factor is that the bounty is a bounty of a project that has a bright future. That the coin you will be receiving will still have value after months and year.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: poptok1 on October 26, 2019, 08:26:43 AM
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Now, it can not be denied that there are bounties and their team who are good at marketing their project even to the point of using hypes and half-lies just to attract people into their respective sphere.
That's very generous when you say "some of them". As horrible as it sounds, I say that, unfortunately, most are in serious exaggeration of those half-truths and blunt lies. Market is so damn oversaturated with really pointless coins, that it boggles the mind.
Good stuff is buried under all this nonsense, to a point of people being unable to recognise it. Listed on exchanges or not, most new projects are gravitating towards "shitcoining" in a jiffy. Everywhere I look, stuff is being promoted with some ridiculous bounty and at the end of the day, it's all turning in to near worthless dust, that only pollute the wallet. My advice is, do not enclose yourself in the informational bobble of any project, this may save you some time at lest.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: JC btc on October 26, 2019, 08:27:40 AM
That's one of the the reason why bounty hunters should learn how to investigate projects too, they should not just basing it to the bounty pool, how much possible they can get, especially if it is too big, or too good to be true. Learn how much is their target capital to raised too, is their project already working, or they are just also relying on how much they can raised in public.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on October 26, 2019, 08:28:44 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?

Its hard to find a project which already listed their token into any real exchange so the hunters were just running with the ICO value but the real price after hitting the exchange won't even 10% of price value from what its been said on the ICO value and the huge discounts will make more worse so better avoiding these projects.
Most of the project always starts with having an ICO, it's really rare to see a coin that was already in exchange, if this will happen, there are chances that it will fail since ico is being undergo to raise funds for the development of the project and also to gather a community to support it.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: huu78 on October 26, 2019, 08:41:05 AM
I agree with you. I prefer registered projects and already listings in market exchanges so that the estimate that can be reached no-frills lying.
The existence of good projects is now hard to find because of the many scammers that exist in cryptocurrency. For that, it must be clever to contribute good so that our time is not wasted.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: inanilujimi on October 26, 2019, 09:08:26 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?



don't judge something from the front, maybe that word is suitable for bounty hunter now.
It must be remembered that a large bounty allocation is not a definite guideline for the project to pay for what was stated, it could just be a tool to attract bounty participants to promote their project.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: joseyphil82 on October 26, 2019, 09:10:08 AM
I am with OP points but bounty projects that are already trading comes out once in awhile, i don't want to wait around for months without taking the risks, some new projects still become successful so why not give a try? and if i come across any bounty thats already listed and trading i will gladly join


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Pamadar on October 26, 2019, 09:16:12 AM
I am with OP points but bounty projects that are already trading comes out once in awhile, i don't want to wait around for months without taking the risks, some new projects still become successful so why not give a try? and if i come across any bounty thats already listed and trading i will gladly join
If there's any chance to get into project who already exists and provide good shares of bounty rewards is really acceptable, but also new project that have a good use along the way will also give good opportunities for the hunters who didn't failed to do their homework. Take your chance with participating with new project who provide realistic figures of rewards to shares.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: jessyj48 on October 26, 2019, 09:20:59 AM
Wish i can see developers that are giving away too many tokens in bounties and ask them that what is their plan? honestly when bounty hunters obtain too many tokens at hand they will dump when the chance is available and it will drag down the price


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: HabiebRiziq on October 26, 2019, 09:34:20 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?

Yes, it is true that projects that have already been listed on the exchange will be better because we can buy and sell them. When compared to promoting new projects that are currently arguably very less profitable and some are just scam projects, so I will also choose to trade.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: DarkIT on October 26, 2019, 09:36:32 AM
I think quite a lot of bounties offer very large prizes, and of course, it was done to attract bounty hunters to promote the projects they developed. if you ask what type of bounty hunter is the best, of course I would say that a good bounty hunter is one that supports a project based on the worth of a project.
No matter how much a project allocates funds for bounty hunters, but if it's a project that's not worth it, I think it will make the bounty hunter disappointed. when a project is worth and succeeds, of course the bounty hunter will be happy even though the allocation is not so great.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: tambok on October 26, 2019, 09:39:00 AM
I am with OP points but bounty projects that are already trading comes out once in awhile, i don't want to wait around for months without taking the risks, some new projects still become successful so why not give a try? and if i come across any bounty thats already listed and trading i will gladly join
Bounty is good, but make sure the project is good too for us not to waste our time in doing it, if we will just join because of the bounty pool, then, 90% you are just wasting your time, a legit project will not give a high bounty pool as they are after the price and interest of the real investors, and hunters are just there to dump the price.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: sikke on October 26, 2019, 09:44:02 AM
Nominal dollar amounts barely matter. You'd be lucky if the tokens distributed even had 10% of what is being promised.

The thing is that they are basing these figures off the ICO price, which in this day and age and climate of the ICO market rarely holds up after the ICO is finished. It is much more likely, especially for projects that need to do bounty campaigns in the first place to see significant decreases in value in their tokens in comparison to ICO price.

So yeah, I'd rather go with something with realistic long term goals as opposed to flashy headlines to catch the attention of bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: abel1337 on October 26, 2019, 10:11:45 AM
I am with OP points but bounty projects that are already trading comes out once in awhile, i don't want to wait around for months without taking the risks, some new projects still become successful so why not give a try? and if i come across any bounty thats already listed and trading i will gladly join
Bounty is good, but make sure the project is good too for us not to waste our time in doing it, if we will just join because of the bounty pool, then, 90% you are just wasting your time, a legit project will not give a high bounty pool as they are after the price and interest of the real investors, and hunters are just there to dump the price.

Yes, Many bounty campaigns proved that allocating a big amount of bounty will make the price go dump. Bounty hunter does sell the bounty at its early stage by the fear of the awaited dump.

Many bounties do some strategies by dividing the bounty distribution into many parts to avoid massive dumps. Most of the tokens today don't have a value on early phase of their development but If youre lucky enough the token you received might have a good value on the process of development. 


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: xOdiumNostrumx on October 26, 2019, 10:27:23 AM
As with most people here, the actual potential of the project is the main factor when deciding to join the campaign or pass on it. But on some occasions I am prepared to risk my work and my time for campaigns with very high allocations, even if those projects look sub-par, as there have been surprises in the past, when some of those kind of projects succeeded.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: pamsugas on October 26, 2019, 10:30:24 AM
I have seen many campaigns with millions of dollars in prizes they have failed. it doesn't make sense if in the market now giving prizes up to millions of dollars. avoid joining the campaign is a waste of time.
for now taking part in a coin campaign that is already on the market is better than a coin that is not yet on the market.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Kyraishi on October 26, 2019, 11:01:13 AM
When you are talking about bounties, the gist of it is that you are basically going to have to spam promote several companies that you are working for, likely on a second or spare account (since no one will want to see you retweeting 50 ICO tweets a day), and then hope that one of the ICO's makes it big and you get your promised amount.

Over the past couple of years, I feel like there's been a large shift to the bad side and it's common to see ICO's fail, bounty hunters get scammed, and it makes these large allocations look like bullshit.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: crazy-pilot on October 26, 2019, 11:04:08 AM
I always avoid projects with unrealistic rewards and always do research on projects. I participate only in those projects that seem worthy to me.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: btcdie on October 26, 2019, 11:04:16 AM
the first thing I did before joining the bounty was seeing the allocation, and how crowded the project was. after that I started to analyze, because it was more important in my opinion. it's useless if the allocation is large, the price of the token is quite expensive, if it's all just a scam project.  :-\

perhaps, projects listed on the exchange with real prices and volumes, will attract many participants / participation. so it's useless, as a bounty hunter only get a little.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: #Darren on October 26, 2019, 11:07:32 AM
I believe that if a bounty programme has a huge allocation, it is the first sign of scam. Nowadays, no project can allow themselves to spend huge money on bounty programmes, when they are struggling to even collect their soft caps.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: funnec on October 26, 2019, 11:12:48 AM
We have got too many bounty campaigns with unrealistic rewards. We just need to be selective when it comes to participating in a bounty campaign, else we will waste our time.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: masterrex on October 26, 2019, 11:23:55 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?

Great observation and thats true still many bounty campaigns today that offering a huge bounty allocation like millions of dollars, and you are right thats too good to be true! BTW after those my previous failed bounty experiences im now carefully selecting bounty campaigns that i like to promote, not in quantity but in quality.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Mammothcoin on October 26, 2019, 12:25:56 PM
I have noticed this too. Some projects claim to allocate millions of dollars to bounty campaigns. In most cases, this amount is unrealistic. I cant imagine a project thst isn't trading and yet to raise any capital to payout such. Most of the time it is just to bait bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: alexsandria on October 26, 2019, 12:32:44 PM
Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?

I partially agree, and I feel guilty as well. Because it is easier to cling on promises beforehand specially if you're just a typical person here in this community. Going around finding a project that it seemed will be going far away looking around the front end itself and then looking to spreadsheet if, and telegram if there's a lot of people are as well engaged to projec, that made me and the others as well forget to further analyze and research more in depth to avoid getting scammed.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: gunhell16 on October 26, 2019, 12:36:34 PM
1. I am looking for the budget first (honestly) if it is a good amount, big or decent!
2. Once i am good with the amount that is the time will look for the project and it team.
3.reviewing everything from them! whitepaper and everything! for now, I include also if they are on IEO.
4. Length of the campaign! is it okay and reasonable?
5. Soft cap reached is an addition!

 I am not into big budgets, as long as it is decent its all good!


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Bitbtc8 on October 26, 2019, 12:37:48 PM
Would have been a different story if there is no scam projects in crypto space, very few projects are maintaining their ICO price nowadays all the rest are just based on lies, its better to stick with realistic offers and rewards, they fail less than bounties with too high rewards


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: o48o on October 26, 2019, 12:49:16 PM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?


Strongly agree. I wouldn't invest a dime in an ico or ieo that gives away most of it's tokens free anyway. This is just happening because the team cares only about raising money and not the the value of the tokens they give to investors; Hence they don't care about investors. If they actually would invest to marketing, they woud pay the marketing with something that already has value, instead of flooding markets with  tokens that has some made up value. But as they want to be cheap and greedy at the same time... This is the outcome.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: xiboothrezi on October 26, 2019, 12:52:40 PM
This is only a strategy to attract bounty hunters with a large allocation if calculated in dollars. Most calculate the highest price from the ICO or IEO pegged. In fact, after listing on an exchange, most of the prices are far from ICO or IEO, so the rewards obtained by bounty hunters become less valuable.

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 i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?
me too, prefer a bounty campaign where tokens or coins have been listed in the market, this gives a little hope, I can also monitor price developments and think how much I will get. Usually, tokens or coins that already exist on the exchange are stronger than the influence of dumps, because the market capacity has been formed, although not yet fully.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Katashi on October 26, 2019, 02:41:27 PM
I was looking on a bounty allocation before, way back 2016 but after i participate on numerous failed projects the bounty allocation don't make sense to me at all. i prefer to promote a project which i think have a good future in crypto space even if i get small portion of their tokens at least i didn't work for nothing.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: andycarrol on October 26, 2019, 02:53:46 PM
It has become very reasonable if the allocation and results of the bounty campaign are usually not in accordance with what was said from the beginning because usually when it is first time it is promised with very large results, but when more participants increase the results will be reduced because it is divided by other pesetas.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: robelneo on October 26, 2019, 03:05:08 PM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?


The allocation is not realistic anymore, I have seen the glory days of bounty hunting, on those days when they say that the price of their token is pegged at this price when it hit the market, it will be 20 to 50% higher, but not anymore instead of going up when it hit the market it drops to 50 to as low as 80%, the one thing that these risk taker investors are considering is the huge bonus, that will compensate their investment even if the price goes down.

If there are coins that are already in the market and they do bounty hunting consider it they offer a more realistic price for your effort.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Palider on October 26, 2019, 03:16:00 PM
Not all bounty projects that offer high allocation to bounty rewards are unrealistic. Because it is based on their coin / token if the ICO price is 1 $ and they promise 500 coins per day, Their value is 500 $. But just because you said crypto is now in Bad season is one of the reasons that the price of coins you receive should not be 1 $. And all you can do is wait for the project's development so that their coin goes up and reaches their target ICO price, and you get your 500 $ bounty.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Pearls Before Swine on October 26, 2019, 03:23:05 PM
Bounty hunters need to start demanding that they get paid in btc or eth, though I know that isn't going to happen because they aren't organized.  Getting paid in stakes isn't working out very well tho, is it?  It doesn't matter what the allocation is if either the bounty hunters get scammed in the end or if the tokens become worthless by the time they can be sold.

I have never and would never work for one of these projects, doing all their advertising up front and hoping to get paid at the end of it.  They project owners don't care about the bounty hunters, believe me and that's why there have been so many scams being pulled in the past couple of years since bounties got hot. 

In fact, after listing on an exchange, most of the prices are far from ICO or IEO, so the rewards obtained by bounty hunters become less valuable.
That's only one of the problems, tho it's a major one.  It costs the project owner nothing to pay everyone in tokens.  If they paid in a real cryptocurrency with a known value, maybe they would have more credibility...but they don't.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Wysi on October 26, 2019, 03:38:11 PM
1. I am looking for the budget first (honestly) if it is a good amount, big or decent!
2. Once i am good with the amount that is the time will look for the project and it team.
3.reviewing everything from them! whitepaper and everything! for now, I include also if they are on IEO.
4. Length of the campaign! is it okay and reasonable?
5. Soft cap reached is an addition!

 I am not into big budgets, as long as it is decent its all good!

Those are nice points before getting into any bounty but we need to get a concrete proof whenever softcap is reached as there are projects out in the market who give out false information saying they have achieved softcap just to pool in more investors and win the user's trust but refrain from giving out the wallet address. Length of the bounty sometimes depends on the region of the project origin like Russian bounties will always be a lengthy one compared to the ones based our of Singapore or Swissm


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Kvalentine on October 26, 2019, 03:41:22 PM
I like bounty projects with huge bounty rewards or allocation, you will be able to get your hand on more tokens but the problem is they tokens might be worthless when they get listed on exchanges and most projects i have seen are not encouraging


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: key4co.in on October 26, 2019, 03:53:47 PM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?

I consider anyone promoting new projects because of the gigantic allocations alone as a newbie in bounty. Anybody who is reasonable enough will prefer to promote already listed projects, but if you can pick a few new unlisted projects to promote with a good vision, it's also cool. Provided the allocation is fair enough and the project is good from my personal research, then I'm in.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Genemind on October 26, 2019, 04:04:02 PM
I used to choose bounty campaigns with huge allocations before but I ended up with regrets. Those hundred thousands of coins are all worthless now. It's really better to promote listed coins because we could at least have an assurance of gaining something in the future. We have to check on the projects that we're promoting so we may not waste our time and effort.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: calandra78 on October 26, 2019, 04:04:49 PM
what exactly is meant by unrealistic? Is it because the bounty allocation is so big? or vice versa that is so small?
allocations for bounty campaigns many use tokens with speculative prices from their ICO selling prices. nothing is unrealistic. they don't spend big money paying participants using their tokens that haven't even been traded yet. but if you see projects that pay their campaign participants using bitcoin or tokens that already have prices on the market then you will see a small allocation. isn't that natural?


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Nadziratel on October 26, 2019, 04:10:58 PM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?



You can keep trying your best but bounty rewards are getting decrease daily. The market is reaching a certain level of saturation. There are already so many blockchain projects. But we have to see some progress some from some of them. Because people are slowly losing faith on altcoins.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Novatech8 on October 26, 2019, 04:11:49 PM
Wish we can keep seeing listed coins and tokens hosting bounty campaigns but none so far, the last ones i saw are veil project and callisto, they are better and guaranteed than new projects coming into crypto world this days


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: rmhuntley on October 26, 2019, 04:15:08 PM
It was only an initial estimate in which the project set the price of tokens to be marketed to investors. This price cant be a guideline for bounty hunters, because there is no guarantee after the project is completed and the tokens released to the stock exchange will remain the same. So what does a bounty hunter expect ?
The project has the right to provide a large allocation to the hunters, but it must be remembered that there are targets that must be achieved and not fixed as said. This amount can still be reduced if the maximum target to reach the fund is not reached.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Arkann on October 26, 2019, 04:22:57 PM
It would be nice to understand and for someone to explain How the initial price of the coin is formed and how the team of the new project evaluates the value of the token.  For the most part, these figures are far from reality and the whole point is that developers pursue the chain to sell air to investors as expensive as possible.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: sayaya17 on October 26, 2019, 04:23:27 PM
Now I do not like projects that give big prizes and are not realistic, because the end is not good, for example the allocation that is cut at the end of the campaign, or even become a scam project that in the end does not pay at all. This incident happened to me. And now I prefer projects that are listed on the exchange, it's very difficult to find them


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: TheBusstop on October 26, 2019, 04:39:57 PM
I am on the same sheep with you on this. i like bounties that are trading already. what i don't understand is why people still believed that such price coming from a bounty will make such payment. it is impossible. it can never happen in this period. it never happen in the early and glorious days of bounty. not now. just ignore and forget it,


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: stephanirain on October 26, 2019, 04:50:08 PM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?


No matter how high is the promised or advertised price is, if the project isn't listed on an exchange, very few will take it seriously. Most of the main players in the industry focus on the coins with high trading volume because of the demand. It is difficult for new coins to climb the ladder that's why I think most of the new ones spends a lot of their promotion funds to bonus and promos. But the downside of this is that many will think that it is too good to be true.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Bim abk on October 26, 2019, 04:54:21 PM
Now I do not like projects that give big prizes and are not realistic, because the end is not good, for example the allocation that is cut at the end of the campaign, or even become a scam project that in the end does not pay at all. This incident happened to me. And now I prefer projects that are listed on the exchange, it's very difficult to find them

in fact to seek a large allocation of funds is your right as a campaign participant but if you are looking for a large allocation of funds from a project, you must ensure the authenticity of the project and in competition the project can survive for a long time. because if you are looking for a project that provides a small amount of funds for campaign participants, usually they cannot promote the project widely and can influence the income of funds for the development


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: spadormie on October 26, 2019, 04:55:54 PM
With that bounty allocations, it's hard to tell whether that bounty is legit or not. But, if I were to be questioned by that, I'll easily say the project is not legit. No bounty will ever give 5 million dollars. What's that? A feeding program for bounty hunters?


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: semobo on October 26, 2019, 05:11:52 PM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?

Its hard to find a project which already listed their token into any real exchange so the hunters were just running with the ICO value but the real price after hitting the exchange won't even 10% of price value from what its been said on the ICO value and the huge discounts will make more worse so better avoiding these projects.
Most of the project always starts with having an ICO, it's really rare to see a coin that was already in exchange, if this will happen, there are chances that it will fail since ico is being undergo to raise funds for the development of the project and also to gather a community to support it.
Is the only reason people chosen IEO over ICO,because they might have an idea where the sold token will be listed,if it is on big exchange the chances of making profits also more.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Samayuki on October 26, 2019, 06:07:22 PM
Realistic bounty rewards are always at the highest of 500k, those showing millions can't be trusted, they will surely dump in price when they hit exchanges and mostly the devs have nothing good to offer i think they just want to seize the opportunity to raise good money in ICO or IEO and run


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Mila52 on October 26, 2019, 06:56:50 PM
I was looking on a bounty allocation before, way back 2016 but after i participate on numerous failed projects the bounty allocation don't make sense to me at all. i prefer to promote a project which i think have a good future in crypto space even if i get small portion of their tokens at least i didn't work for nothing.
In 2017 year, as a newbie of cryptocurrency, I was joined into such project-Matrix space.They reached Hard Cap of 50 million tokens and received approximately 13227 ETH. It was my first big earnings. Of course, now isn't those time. Due to scammers, investors don't trust ICO and prefer IEO. Now such numbers the teams are luring a trusting and greedy user.And I became wiser and more experienced I don't trust such projects


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: unicode.03C0 on October 26, 2019, 06:57:53 PM
Realistic bounty rewards are always at the highest of 500k, those showing millions can't be trusted, they will surely dump in price when they hit exchanges and mostly the devs have nothing good to offer i think they just want to seize the opportunity to raise good money in ICO or IEO and run

Some old coins like DeVCoin will just change the bounty to reward the admins with your work
Beware old coins that change admins


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: tabas on October 26, 2019, 07:38:59 PM
I don't get into bounty hunting but I've seen those high allocation bounties which made me think if they can really give that as promised. Well, what I've figured out is that they don't give the actual amount with a valuable coin and they were giving it through their token so they can give as much as they want.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: tenakha on October 26, 2019, 09:08:54 PM
Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?

Most of us give superiority to listed projects' bounties. The best proof is that it is usually too late to participate when there are such bounties. However, since we do not often meet such bounties, we join others. As "others" I said, it can be any bounty, as long as the project is good because once the project is good, we will ultimately make profit.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Ultimist on October 26, 2019, 09:43:20 PM
Yes, unfortunately many are conducted on a large reward and do not understand that this does not happen. You need to objectively assess the possibilities of the project and don't chase big money.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: alroys on October 26, 2019, 10:01:24 PM
Now is a difficult time for a Bounty campaign, the allocation of a prize of that size is indeed very tempting.  But unfortunately, people now prefer projects that are already listed on the exchange even though the value is not that big.  Likewise I, I am always selective before joining the Bounty campaign, and the Bounty campaign with tokens that are already listed on the Exchange is certainly the top priority.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: danggoron on October 26, 2019, 10:12:20 PM
Now is a difficult time for a Bounty campaign, the allocation of a prize of that size is indeed very tempting.  But unfortunately, people now prefer projects that are already listed on the exchange even though the value is not that big.  Likewise I, I am always selective before joining the Bounty campaign, and the Bounty campaign with tokens that are already listed on the Exchange is certainly the top priority.
A wise choice. A lot of allocation if converted to dollars from the calculation of the highest price of the token/coin when ico / ieo, the fact when listing on the exchange is not that big, manipulative, well we do have to be selective and wise to choose. Even though the allocation is small but it has guaranteed that tokens or coins already exist in the market give its own power, at least our hard work is not useless.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Bonwin on October 26, 2019, 10:24:20 PM
There are not so many bounty projects, whose tokens have been listed and most times, if they decide to do bounty after listing, most of them allocate very little fund for that purpose and if care is not taken, you might end up meaning less that $1. The best you should do is to research before joining.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Aabcde on October 26, 2019, 10:25:28 PM
Yes, indeed, I always did the bounty without being picky, because I would definitely pay. But compared to now, I must be even more thorough. Because many scam projects make us have to choose the best. For now, only the bounty from Yobit that I follow because is directly paid with BTC every day, instant. Rather than having to follow other bounties whose allocation prices may be missed when entering the market.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: mdgabrielzim on October 26, 2019, 10:38:55 PM
Already participated in a bounty that participants received $ 500 but after the token entered an exchange the $ 500 fell to $ 2. So today I always select the campaigns that seem most serious.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: deadsilent on October 26, 2019, 10:48:50 PM
They are just deceiving people to join their Bounty. $5M worth of token is ridiculous for an ICO project. How will they cover the fund allocated for Bounty if they have not reached the softcap or hardcap? Or maybe 5 million of tokens. Man, Bounty these days are exaggerating. Even if it's true, when you received your token the price already dropped 10x.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: TaliskerDarkStorm on October 26, 2019, 11:12:45 PM
Bitcointalk should no longer allow such unrealistic scam allocations.

In fact, Bitcointalk needs a special arrangement for bounties. Bounty prizes must be paid only with bitcoin and ethereum. If not, such crooks will continue to exploit people's time and labour. Because these people give these bounties not just their time, but their dreams. And no one has the right to upset these people.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: bgaf on October 27, 2019, 01:49:59 AM
Got some point mate but sometime there are projects who really give a huge reward. Yes this is unrealistic but I experience some campaign in the past that earn a really huge reward. You just need to make sure that the project is really worth youre attention. I guess million $ reward is feasible as long as the project is knows how to handle marketing and promotions to the community. But the era now is different, maybe only 1 out of 10 are true to their words. But this is not impossible cause it happened before.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: RDNX on October 27, 2019, 02:13:47 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?


Based on experience, I personally prefer bounty projects that have good products.
 For example now like https://agareum.com/ The product is already running, although it's still not perfect.
Bounty with fantastic rewards just to lure hunters into joining.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: blckhawk on October 27, 2019, 02:35:16 AM
I'm more into projects that are realistic than those who are promising to achieve such feats that are quite unreasonable or unattainable in the current situation. I believe that having a project in mind should be a step-by-step process in smaller objectives rather than those projects that aim-high, fall-hard schemes. These are more prone to scams, so preferring the projects that are believable is most likely to bring you good than those who are not.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Lauren Smith on October 27, 2019, 02:44:52 AM
I feel sometimes they actually have to do this to lure people in because people seem to be too stupid to figure this out on their own. So they have to offer more then the next time. They forget that, that is the value of the token when it first comes out. So better to invest in an ICO doing a bounty then to inbvest that amount of money. If you get $1000 worth of bounty tokens it would have still cost yu $1000 to buy that many.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: angrybirdy on October 27, 2019, 03:58:16 AM
I feel sometimes they actually have to do this to lure people in because people seem to be too stupid to figure this out on their own. So they have to offer more then the next time. They forget that, that is the value of the token when it first comes out. So better to invest in an ICO doing a bounty then to inbvest that amount of money. If you get $1000 worth of bounty tokens it would have still cost yu $1000 to buy that many.
It's their way to collect people to support and promote the project. They know that if they show bounty hunters a huge allocated fund, there are some chances that they can gather people as many as they can. They focus on unnecessary things where it will be hard even for them to do, instead of focusing on realistic things.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: BlackFor3st on October 27, 2019, 04:00:39 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?


I difinitely agree with you in this market season, huge bounty rewards are very unrealistic so it is better to choose few projects that offers a reasonable bounty rewards than joining this kind of bounty.

Researching and doing some background check to any projects will surely help you to decide on what bounty campaign to join, so don't just join blindly or else you are only wasting your time and you will not get any good profit from your effort. Even if they are not listed or traded yet, as long as it has the potential to succeed then I have no problem with it.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Sithara007 on October 27, 2019, 04:24:27 AM
i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?

Everyone prefer such projects. But the reality is that such projects are too few and far between and too many people enroll for their campaigns. And in the end the average payout per user may go very low. Even with such projects, you may be getting $5 or $10 for months of hard work. So if you ask me, there are no good options with bounties right now.

I have seen a few bounty programs of coins that are already listed. Examples are MB8 Coin, Denarius, Veil.etc. And from what I can see from their campaign threads, too many people signed up for these campaigns and in the end the participants had to wait some time for the payment and even then the individual payouts were relatively low.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: dirgayeah on October 27, 2019, 05:49:19 AM
This is not something new. Almost every day, kind of project like this always appear on this forum. And exactly as Smart bounty hunter, you must be consider before participating on it. Does  really rational if little project with poor concept can give your millions dollars? 😁. Come on guys, wake up. Small allocation but have a strong concept and product will be better than join with something which only give you a big dream.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Ailmand on October 27, 2019, 05:54:41 AM
I learned my lesson and stopped promoting bounties depending on the reward. A lot of bounties promise a huge amount of money and people must read carefully when joining. The amount of money allocated on the project is most of the time based on the token cost, so let's say the project declares an amount of bounty to $1****** as bounty that would be based on the ICO price to that total amount. Don't be fooled, there is no guarantee that a project will even reach the point where it will reach it's ICO price or even gets listed. Promote projects that is most likely to deliver their product or service and has an active and legitimate team and good white paper.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: awik p on October 27, 2019, 06:19:07 AM
This is not something new. Almost every day, kind of project like this always appear on this forum. And exactly as Smart bounty hunter, you must be consider before participating on it. Does  really rational if little project with poor concept can give your millions dollars? 😁. Come on guys, wake up. Small allocation but have a strong concept and product will be better than join with something which only give you a big dream.
right, with a large allocation especially with a situation like this, I think it will just waste our time just to promote. in the end they are deceptive and the results we get are not in accordance with initial expectations. therefore choosing the right project even if the prize is not large, will be more beneficial for us



Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: barnes13 on October 27, 2019, 06:31:52 AM
I really agree with you, at this time the allocation of tokens given for bounties is indeed very much. But unfortunately when after listing on the market it ends up being very bad. Estimates that we should get $1000 in fact we only get less than $30. At this time, I have stopped participating in the Bounty Program, which pays with their tokens, unless their tokens have been listed in several markets. I hope you also have to follow as I did, because if we don't support the shit project, then they will never appear again. All need capital and those who are serious about building their projects must prepare all of these things.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: arimamib on October 27, 2019, 06:38:08 AM
This is not something new. Almost every day, kind of project like this always appear on this forum. And exactly as Smart bounty hunter, you must be consider before participating on it. Does  really rational if little project with poor concept can give your millions dollars? 😁. Come on guys, wake up. Small allocation but have a strong concept and product will be better than join with something which only give you a big dream.
right, with a large allocation especially with a situation like this, I think it will just waste our time just to promote. in the end they are deceptive and the results we get are not in accordance with initial expectations. therefore choosing the right project even if the prize is not large, will be more beneficial for us



for projects that pay a lot of money to campaign participants at this time it does not make sense because market conditions can make the results of payments unsatisfactory. but if you believe the project has advantages in it, then you can join, but the risk of time loss can occur if the project does not get maximum results


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Stanlo on October 27, 2019, 06:44:03 AM
I feel sometimes they actually have to do this to lure people in because people seem to be too stupid to figure this out on their own. So they have to offer more then the next time. They forget that, that is the value of the token when it first comes out. So better to invest in an ICO doing a bounty then to inbvest that amount of money. If you get $1000 worth of bounty tokens it would have still cost yu $1000 to buy that many.
It's their way to collect people to support and promote the project. They know that if they show bounty hunters a huge allocated fund, there are some chances that they can gather people as many as they can. They focus on unnecessary things where it will be hard even for them to do, instead of focusing on realistic things.
Which is plain stupidity to me, firstly the team are not been sincere they know that not until the token hit exchange they can't guarantee the reward as fixed USD worth, secondly any bounty hunter who fails to detect this means he is just same as them, fooling themselves


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Nadziratel on October 27, 2019, 07:27:58 AM
It would be nice to understand and for someone to explain How the initial price of the coin is formed and how the team of the new project evaluates the value of the token.  For the most part, these figures are far from reality and the whole point is that developers pursue the chain to sell air to investors as expensive as possible.

Price is the easy part. However, the token price brings a huge loss of value after listing due to huge discounts to private investors at the time of sale. And many teams doesn't like to talk about this. I know some projects made an ICO and sold their tokens to $1. But earlier time, private investors buoght that token $0.10 - $0.20. So normally, they are okey if token price $0.25 - $0.30.

I think there shouldn't be any private sale for ICO's. Token prices should be stable all time during the sale. I'm sure good projects doesn't have any trouble with that strategy.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Bitbtc8 on October 27, 2019, 07:35:24 AM
The concept of every new project is very important when doing research, if the project is good enough for me i won't mind if the bounty allocation is way too good to be real, there is a chance that the token will add value but most projects with high allocations have worse ideas and mostly repetitive projects


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Samboo on October 27, 2019, 08:02:37 AM
Obviously I do like to promote such projects that have realistic use and are serious about implementing and delivering on their promises and road map. But sometimes I get lured by high volume of bounty pools, thus leading me to get nothing for my hard work. Generally, unrealistic projects allocate high volume of bounty pools. So I want to ask bounty hunters to research before joining and promoting any crypto project.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: senin on October 27, 2019, 08:07:58 AM
Now I look more at what the project will do to understand its innovation and usefulness, and therefore the demand for its token. I do not participate in those projects and in their ICO bounty campaigns, if it will just be profitable to sell their tokens.
Regarding the proposed rewards for bounty hunters, the large amounts now more indicate the insincerity of the ICO team members and their ability to deceive bounty hunters. At the same time, I also do not join those bounty campaigns that offer too small amounts to pay for our work. This should be fundamental, otherwise this trend will become a reality and strengthened in practice. However, of course, the decision to join or not is made taking into account many other factors and, in fact, is individual in each case.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Casdinyard on October 27, 2019, 08:38:14 AM
Bitcointalk should no longer allow such unrealistic scam allocations.

In fact, Bitcointalk needs a special arrangement for bounties. Bounty prizes must be paid only with bitcoin and ethereum. If not, such crooks will continue to exploit people's time and labour.

That couldn't happen not unless those projects want a good success rate. Yes, some icos have funds but they allocate it on their development and not for bounty and allocating huge bounty is the only way they see to attract free advertisement.

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Because these people give these bounties not just their time, but their dreams. And no one has the right to upset these people.

You're overstating. I know your point but that still depends on those people whether they'll be just stuck on doing bounty or move on. If you're tired of it then stop.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: yulionoo on October 27, 2019, 09:45:40 AM
I am always selective in choosing bounty campaigns. I always choose a campaign project that has a dev and a development team that is trusted and honest and has experience in making projects. I am not interested in projects that offer large tokens or high prices because it is sometimes unrealistic with crypto market conditions like this. maybe it's just an article not in reality.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: crossabdd on October 27, 2019, 10:07:50 AM
I have personally stopped hunting bounties since November 2018 and started again a few weeks ago. of course because of the certainty of reward, I started again. and what made me stop bounty hunting was the reason you mentioned. I mentioned that one is JINBI. with large allocations they have deceived bounty hunters. and don't distribute that token. after that I no longer believe in large allocations. because many tokens are only by promise, without proof of price. yes of course with the circumstances you mentioned, all of that is real ... nothing is as promised and not realistic in the price of the token.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: kayvie on October 27, 2019, 10:18:49 AM
This huge amount of bounty nowadays is impossible to reach. Nowadays, it's really hard for every ico to raise huge money to fund their allocated expenses.
Unlike before, bounty campaigns we're able to provide these bounty allocations because it's possible to raise funds.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: MiguelCryptoss on October 27, 2019, 10:20:19 AM
Although you are right but, having a good project to promote this days look very difficult but with a little effort one can still find a good one to be sure of getting good reward after promotion. Those projects that give huge amount of rewards to me is a no go area because, mist of their promises are actually unrealistic if calculated base on the dollar value. But having a project that's listed to promote will always give a small amount of rewards to promoters, I personally hate such projects.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: ice18 on October 27, 2019, 10:44:10 AM
Most newbie bounty hunters always fall from this huge allocations but in the end its worthless because of no liquidity on exchanges or the worst not listing on any exchanges its better to choose a bounty who is managed by a trusted bounty manager even the allocation is not too big as long as the project is real and have good reviews, big allocation like millions is just bs unless its already traded on exchanges and listed on cmc.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: NewRanger on October 27, 2019, 11:04:21 AM
Most newbie bounty hunters always fall from this huge allocations but in the end its worthless because of no liquidity on exchanges or the worst not listing on any exchanges its better to choose a bounty who is managed by a trusted bounty manager even the allocation is not too big as long as the project is real and have good reviews, big allocation like millions is just bs unless its already traded on exchanges and listed on cmc.
huge allocation doesn't mean we will get alot money in the end of projects.many time i am joined in campaign that provide huge allocation .and the fact i am just received less than hundred dollar.by this experience i will not tempted again when see this campaig .and manager profile while be important point to review bounty campaigns.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Kvalentine on October 27, 2019, 11:18:01 AM
I don't like projects that still looks shady even when they have good ideas and plans, many are just make ups to fool investors so i pick projects that are strong enough to be a success on the long run, ive wasted time trying to know how to spot good bounties and now i have improved


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Youghoor on October 27, 2019, 12:15:36 PM
Personally, as a bounty hunter, I prefer to join bounty projects with good workable ideas and products. The huge reward allocation for some bounties does not really attract me since a lot of these bounties do not actually reward bounty hunters as it says in their campaign.  Also, I prefer promoting bounties with their tokens or coins listed and have good amount of trading volume rather than bounties with their tokens not listed. With listed bounties, you are definitely assured of getting a decent amount of reward.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Ashong Salonga on October 27, 2019, 12:29:16 PM
To be honest i am not joining any bounty campaigns right now because almost all of the bounty now is scam and not worth it to join unlike before that we can able to make huge income by only joining a bounty, but as a bounty hunter i really prefer to join the project that have a great manager and great whitepaper.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: miklesm on October 27, 2019, 12:32:36 PM
The first think I pay attention for when choosing a Bounty for the participation is the project itself. Usually, moderate projects try to attract Bounty hunters with huge allocations, so I try not to take part in Bounties with 1M$+ allocations.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Sebas.tian on October 27, 2019, 12:46:55 PM
I really agree with you, at this time the allocation of tokens given for bounties is indeed very much. But unfortunately when after listing on the market it ends up being very bad. Estimates that we should get $1000 in fact we only get less than $30. At this time, I have stopped participating in the Bounty Program, which pays with their tokens, unless their tokens have been listed in several markets. I hope you also have to follow as I did, because if we don't support the shit project, then they will never appear again. All need capital and those who are serious about building their projects must prepare all of these things.

There are still projects that still do well even when its not listed before their ICOs or IEOs. This has to do with the solution the project bring onboard in solving existing problems in real world. Bounties have their problems, many times bounties with a low budget seem to be more functional than those with bogus allocation to their hunters or promoters. From the project roadmap, the team behind the project, financial will power and good marketing team will give no doubt about the success of the project, the tokens will not deprecate. MB8 was my witnessed and it was a reality.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Finestream on October 27, 2019, 12:56:54 PM
5 million usd reward based on IEO/ICO price but in reality this is not the price we will get when it will be traded in exchange.
They are just doing it to make it attractive to bounty hunters but I know they know that it will still likely dump when traded in exchange.
Bounty hunters are already aware of this, they know its hard to get even 50% of that price so it depends on them if they will still join the campaign.

Besides, no one knows the outcome, but the trend of the market now does not look good at all.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: GGmith on October 27, 2019, 01:30:44 PM
most prize hunters, of course, like projects that offer large prizes and some choose random projects. but for me the project that offered a big prize was bullshit, now I began to take part in projects that had good concepts, responsible teams, lots of participants involved and also professional developers.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: mickey_miner on October 27, 2019, 03:04:04 PM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?

I also started to stick to this tactic. It is better to earn less, but to know for sure that you can get money for work, than to work hard and get nothing.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: fosco333 on October 28, 2019, 01:43:03 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

...


LOL, it is good to avoid such bounty campaign at all costs. That is the strategy to lure peoples join bounty.
I bet the fund they raise will be lower than the worth of bounty campaign allocation.
If i was an investor, i would not investing to the project like that, it is too risky of dump due too high reward.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: patz22 on October 28, 2019, 02:44:41 AM
I agree with the unrealistic bounty allocations cause mostly these are just scam since they wanted to get more participants to promote and other than that they are adding exchanges like big ones and claiming that they will be listed. Check this out and you will know what I mean talking about. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182812.0

Isn't it the exchanges are the one who will announce it?


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: dimonstration on October 28, 2019, 02:56:25 AM
I agree with the unrealistic bounty allocations cause mostly these are just scam since they wanted to get more participants to promote and other than that they are adding exchanges like big ones and claiming that they will be listed. Check this out and you will know what I mean talking about. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182812.0

Isn't it the exchanges are the one who will announce it?
They should not announced that they will be in upcoming exchanges, they can say they are applying in those exchanges. Before in ICO, exchange listing are exclusive in the team unless guaranteed that they are already allowed by the exchange to say that they are already applicable to be listed. We'll, maybe due to IEO they seems to market it as a way to announce where they can be listed soon. Since investors and bounty hunters are preferred to be in listed exchanges now than having huge amount in bounty allocation yet no exchange to use it.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: zidanw on October 28, 2019, 03:06:21 AM
It has become a natural thing in my opinion regarding allocations that are not in line with expectations because now so many factors are happening. one of them is a huge bonus when a sale makes its own listing the investors will sell it even if it doesn't reach the price of ico. because they already profit from the bonus they get. and things like this make the bounty participants increasingly disadvantaged because they get low prices


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: minairia3 on October 28, 2019, 03:14:58 AM
As a hunter its youre job to review the project cause. If you will noticed some offer a huge reward that beyond their target fund sales. These are so stupid for me, how come they can give more to hunters than saving for project development. This is a typical lure for most hunters. Dont join this huge reward that is so suspicious and too good to be true. You will just waste youre time doing the promotions.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: riso2015 on October 28, 2019, 03:23:46 AM
I'm the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy, I'm not interest against project with
million dollars allocation because I think it's impossible allocation, not real, just to make the Bounty Hunter interested.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: aioc on October 28, 2019, 03:29:51 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?


I agree but do you have many choices considering that there's no bounty campaign right now that offer Bitcoin and other tradeable coins to pay their bounty hunters and there's no bounty campaign right now that is already in the market, you always have to settle for ICO and IEO where you will take the risk of not receiving your coin at all.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: perla on October 28, 2019, 07:42:36 AM
Honestly, i usually look for big allocation in bounty campaigns. Although know if it is not means the real price, it said that it is on their ICO price allocation, i still join it. My hope is someday i can get bounty campaign that really give big rewards for people, or maybe really reach their ICO price so we can get exact amount like what said on their thread.

For now it is difficult to find with large allocations but the real results, even though written in millions of dollars in the bounty campaign are only to attract the hunters, why the results are not balanced with what is said on the thread because after the price entered the exchange is always destroyed not even realized by the developer.
so the bounty income is not much in accordance with its work.
True, and that is why i always trapped into bounty that actually will end with the coin stay in my wallet for very long time. I usually joined bounty that have big allocation which according of their ICO price, i think 1 of that project someday will make good profit for me. If not, i usually join bounty from bountyhive, i think they help us to filter which one is good and which is not. I am not really can do analysis.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Bitze on October 28, 2019, 10:02:08 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?


there are very often unrealistic bounty pools which will be shortened by 95% if ever paid out. but I had never seen 5 million so far.
i prefer solid projects with realistic information but even there you can never know exactly where you are. luck is always part of it anyway. :)


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Onuohakk on October 28, 2019, 11:50:24 AM
The allocation is too much for only bounty hunters. It's a trick to lure them to participate much. If millions of dollars is allocated for only for bounty hunters, that's to say they don't need help from investors for their project to get launched.
Thousands of bounty hunters will apply for it without having a double thought about the allocation. The bounty allocation is really tempting you know (Lola)


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: k@suy on October 28, 2019, 12:30:48 PM
The allocation is too much for only bounty hunters. It's a trick to lure them to participate much. If millions of dollars is allocated for only for bounty hunters, that's to say they don't need help from investors for their project to get launched.
Thousands of bounty hunters will apply for it without having a double thought about the allocation. The bounty allocation is really tempting you know (Lola)
Yep. Always calculate the bounty rewards as well as the total volume of their coin. So that you will be aware of what they are offering. Also some of them have a billiond circulating token, it is not good not unless they will burn some of them in the future when the campaign ends.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Kersh768 on October 28, 2019, 01:47:17 PM
I prefer projects with already have plans or partnerships with good exchanges because I believe it would be an advantage for a longterm run for the coin itself. Bounty allocations are just additional factors to consider in my opinion. I do think that no matter how huge the allocation is,  but if the coin would be listed on bad exchanges, nothing good will happen for the rewards a bounty hunter would recieve.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: TaliskerDarkStorm on October 28, 2019, 01:52:24 PM
Bitcointalk should no longer allow such unrealistic scam allocations.

In fact, Bitcointalk needs a special arrangement for bounties. Bounty prizes must be paid only with bitcoin and ethereum. If not, such crooks will continue to exploit people's time and labour.

That couldn't happen not unless those projects want a good success rate. Yes, some icos have funds but they allocate it on their development and not for bounty and allocating huge bounty is the only way they see to attract free advertisement.

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Because these people give these bounties not just their time, but their dreams. And no one has the right to upset these people.

You're overstating. I know your point but that still depends on those people whether they'll be just stuck on doing bounty or move on. If you're tired of it then stop.

Bounty is a kind of advertisement. So companies need to allocate funds for this. Do you ever see Burger King doing an advertisement for free?  Why people must work for free? If you want to advertise your product you need to pay for this. If you poor for doing this you better not launch a product. I  think projects could allocate at least 50.000 BTC or ETH.

No one can be forced to work for free. Time is precious to everyone, not just for companies.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: patz22 on October 29, 2019, 12:22:45 AM
They should not announced that they will be in upcoming exchanges, they can say they are applying in those exchanges. Before in ICO, exchange listing are exclusive in the team unless guaranteed that they are already allowed by the exchange to say that they are already applicable to be listed. We'll, maybe due to IEO they seems to market it as a way to announce where they can be listed soon. Since investors and bounty hunters are preferred to be in listed exchanges now than having huge amount in bounty allocation yet no exchange to use it.

Adding the name of exchanges that MIGHT be listed is really a red flag especially as we all know that exchange will be the one who will announce it. Maybe they applied for listing but it is not that sure. The project that I have mentioned is an ICO not IEO


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Taskford on October 29, 2019, 04:04:42 AM
They should not announced that they will be in upcoming exchanges, they can say they are applying in those exchanges. Before in ICO, exchange listing are exclusive in the team unless guaranteed that they are already allowed by the exchange to say that they are already applicable to be listed. We'll, maybe due to IEO they seems to market it as a way to announce where they can be listed soon. Since investors and bounty hunters are preferred to be in listed exchanges now than having huge amount in bounty allocation yet no exchange to use it.

Adding the name of exchanges that MIGHT be listed is really a red flag especially as we all know that exchange will be the one who will announce it. Maybe they applied for listing but it is not that sure. The project that I have mentioned is an ICO not IEO

Totally a big flag for those ICO companies to put the name of exchange especially on Binance and Okex for there listing claims since we all know that it's not easy to list there. Maybe they are applying but for sure they will get denied for some reason and people should be more aware of this since this is mostly used by ICO scammers to scam people.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: janggernaut on October 29, 2019, 05:55:58 AM
I prefer projects with already have plans or partnerships with good exchanges because I believe it would be an advantage for a longterm run for the coin itself. Bounty allocations are just additional factors to consider in my opinion. I do think that no matter how huge the allocation is,  but if the coin would be listed on bad exchanges, nothing good will happen for the rewards a bounty hunter would recieve.
The fact is not all new ICO/IEO token would be partnered with exchange site. They can surely make they will listed soon on an exchange, but no one can be sure if they will get listed on there. How could you join on a bounty which you already knew where their exchange will be? Their ICO or IEO didn't even finished yet.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: arwin100 on October 29, 2019, 07:19:12 AM
I prefer projects with already have plans or partnerships with good exchanges because I believe it would be an advantage for a longterm run for the coin itself. Bounty allocations are just additional factors to consider in my opinion. I do think that no matter how huge the allocation is,  but if the coin would be listed on bad exchanges, nothing good will happen for the rewards a bounty hunter would recieve.
The fact is not all new ICO/IEO token would be partnered with exchange site. They can surely make they will listed soon on an exchange, but no one can be sure if they will get listed on there. How could you join on a bounty which you already knew where their exchange will be? Their ICO or IEO didn't even finished yet.

Eventually there ICO's that list a exchange that they are targeted to be listed with but we cannot trust this since they are writing this up just for the fact that many people love those top exchange and gather some supporters for this fake listing claims. However we must be careful especially with ICO's right now since one thing is for sure 99% of them cannot pay the listing fee and cannot pass on the requirements needed sinc they are questionable.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: iamsange on October 29, 2019, 07:27:16 AM
I prefer projects with already have plans or partnerships with good exchanges because I believe it would be an advantage for a longterm run for the coin itself. Bounty allocations are just additional factors to consider in my opinion. I do think that no matter how huge the allocation is,  but if the coin would be listed on bad exchanges, nothing good will happen for the rewards a bounty hunter would recieve.
The fact is not all new ICO/IEO token would be partnered with exchange site. They can surely make they will listed soon on an exchange, but no one can be sure if they will get listed on there. How could you join on a bounty which you already knew where their exchange will be? Their ICO or IEO didn't even finished yet.

Eventually there ICO's that list a exchange that they are targeted to be listed with but we cannot trust this since they are writing this up just for the fact that many people love those top exchange and gather some supporters for this fake listing claims. However we must be careful especially with ICO's right now since one thing is for sure 99% of them cannot pay the listing fee and cannot pass on the requirements needed sinc they are questionable.
Make a choice from that reason usually very hard to do. From a lot of project, usually maybe less than 5 which already in market when bounty started. Because usually they held bounty after ICO done, i think for now will be harder to join that kind of bounty, especially when there are a lot of people who want to join too. Because they already know where they want to sell their coins.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Avirunes on October 29, 2019, 08:54:12 AM
Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?


Earlier projects used to pay whatever they allocate and there were quite a lot of successful projects. I myself managed one that paid a lot as expected and hunters were quite happy and I guess that was in like 2017ish I guess but sure time has changed but still I guess there should be some projects still who are good and have potential. It still has scope ..just wait for the right one.

Do already listed and trading projects hold bounties nowadays? I haven't seen much TBH.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: milewilda on October 29, 2019, 12:15:28 PM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?

I wouldnt gonna buy those kind of projects that do give out millions of dollars since i was scammed wayback before and to know that one do only offer $1M
in token value.Yes, it do sounds a lot and very attractive but most cases you wouldnt even receive a dime with all of your hardworks.You can receive shit tokens
but those are ones that havent any value yet.They can claim as they like no matter how many you are gaining as long it dont hit up any exchangers you cant still
assure that you would get something and on the side not where even it hits exchangers but the value is way more lower into its ICO price then you would receive some nuts.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: congakia113 on October 30, 2019, 01:12:19 AM
This is often the case with bonus projects. Their prize value is very high, this is a funny story. They make a cake, they sell $ 10 and no one buys it, they give it to the bounty hunters and say the value of that cake is very high, lol. I say pie, it can eat; For some bonus programs, I didn't get anything.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: patz22 on October 30, 2019, 02:45:34 AM

Totally a big flag for those ICO companies to put the name of exchange especially on Binance and Okex for there listing claims since we all know that it's not easy to list there. Maybe they are applying but for sure they will get denied for some reason and people should be more aware of this since this is mostly used by ICO scammers to scam people.

Yeah even though they have applied for they should not even put any logo on it to bring hype to investors including bounty hunters! I was a victim of this. If you knew hashcard wherein they addes the namr of I believe Binance as well as galaxy e-solutions -GES wherein same thing and even flagged by CZ because of that selfie with GES CEO.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Fahmis2688 on October 30, 2019, 04:14:15 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?



Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: cvasy on October 31, 2019, 06:53:50 PM
I personally prefer to follow a bounty project that does have a concept or product that is clearly produced by the that project platform, Because, in my opinion the like that bounty project has more potential for success so that we can get the appropriate income after the bounty is finished, rather than following a bounty project which offers a large allocation of funds and makes no sense at all, I think the allocation of funds are not the main thing that attracts bounty participants to join the project.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: TheGreatPython on November 03, 2019, 02:33:38 PM
I agree with the unrealistic bounty allocations cause mostly these are just scam since they wanted to get more participants to promote and other than that they are adding exchanges like big ones and claiming that they will be listed. Check this out and you will know what I mean talking about. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182812.0

Isn't it the exchanges are the one who will announce it?
They should not announced that they will be in upcoming exchanges, they can say they are applying in those exchanges. Before in ICO, exchange listing are exclusive in the team unless guaranteed that they are already allowed by the exchange to say that they are already applicable to be listed. We'll, maybe due to IEO they seems to market it as a way to announce where they can be listed soon. Since investors and bounty hunters are preferred to be in listed exchanges now than having huge amount in bounty allocation yet no exchange to use it.
The promised that these people make to be listed on a very big exchange is one of the thing that has blindfolded lot of hunters and make them look for allocations of project that will make them to make more money because they believe that once the project sis being released, they will really make so much money, which is not always like that.

They only use this to deceive majority of us into buying their token which I think is a very wrong criteria to use in judging a project right now, we should not look at allocations of these project alone, but we should look at the content of the project and how Quality the project it that even if they have a very low allocation, we will be sure of them paying us after the end of the project.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Wapfika on November 03, 2019, 02:41:05 PM
I personally prefer to follow a bounty project that does have a concept or product that is clearly produced by the that project platform, Because, in my opinion the like that bounty project has more potential for success so that we can get the appropriate income after the bounty is finished, rather than following a bounty project which offers a large allocation of funds and makes no sense at all, I think the allocation of funds are not the main thing that attracts bounty participants to join the project.
Allocation of funds is not measured now by the participants since many campaigns no don't pay so what we need now is the legit ounty that really pays, that's why we will be needing to find projects that already have a working product so they have something to prove already to their investors and can provide more updates as it continues to gain investors.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: shoreno on November 03, 2019, 02:55:23 PM
Allocation of funds is not measured now by the participants since many campaigns no don't pay so what we need now is the legit ounty that really pays, that's why we will be needing to find projects that already have a working product so they have something to prove already to their investors and can provide more updates as it continues to gain investors.

but how can one project be created without a working product ? is that possible ?  whats the use of people investing on thier coin then ?  and also , allocation of funds is important because no matter how legit and paying the bounty that you join but what if they only allocate small rewards (ex . 1 usd per head ) will you be happy with that ?  and the question is that you can be able to trade that ?   no right ?


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: MURONDI on November 03, 2019, 03:07:58 PM
many forum members now don't trust ICO anymore, maybe because many people get scam projects or fail, so the ICO project is no longer in demand, people prefer real coins that are already listed on the exchange.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Mahanton on November 03, 2019, 04:14:49 PM
I personally prefer to follow a bounty project that does have a concept or product that is clearly produced by the that project platform, Because, in my opinion the like that bounty project has more potential for success so that we can get the appropriate income after the bounty is finished, rather than following a bounty project which offers a large allocation of funds and makes no sense at all, I think the allocation of funds are not the main thing that attracts bounty participants to join the project.
Allocation of funds is not measured now by the participants since many campaigns no don't pay so what we need now is the legit ounty that really pays, that's why we will be needing to find projects that already have a working product so they have something to prove already to their investors and can provide more updates as it continues to gain investors.
Its rare to see actually a project that do launch that already had a working produce yet majority or most of them are still on the developing side which
means they are still completely on scratch and this is the hardest part where you wouldnt know if the team will proceed or follow up their roadmap once they
do get that sufficient funding. Finding the legit project sounds too easy but actually hard to be done by anyone and knowing that even scam projects do really hard to
recognized since they do actually look legit ones so its better to be careful on choosing.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Kupid002 on November 03, 2019, 05:11:01 PM
Allocation of funds is not measured now by the participants since many campaigns no don't pay so what we need now is the legit ounty that really pays, that's why we will be needing to find projects that already have a working product so they have something to prove already to their investors and can provide more updates as it continues to gain investors.

but how can one project be created without a working product ? is that possible ?  whats the use of people investing on thier coin then ?  and also , allocation of funds is important because no matter how legit and paying the bounty that you join but what if they only allocate small rewards (ex . 1 usd per head ) will you be happy with that ?  and the question is that you can be able to trade that ?   no right ?
Of course not that 1$  can only be use as transaction fee so it's better to not move it than selling .
The answer why they are investing is because of the business plan  they write in the white paper. which is we all don't know if they are able to make or if they will continue doing it after they raised fund.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: TinaK on November 03, 2019, 06:06:57 PM
Allocation of funds is not measured now by the participants since many campaigns no don't pay so what we need now is the legit ounty that really pays, that's why we will be needing to find projects that already have a working product so they have something to prove already to their investors and can provide more updates as it continues to gain investors.

but how can one project be created without a working product ? is that possible ?  whats the use of people investing on thier coin then ?  and also , allocation of funds is important because no matter how legit and paying the bounty that you join but what if they only allocate small rewards (ex . 1 usd per head ) will you be happy with that ?  and the question is that you can be able to trade that ?   no right ?
Of course not that 1$  can only be use as transaction fee so it's better to not move it than selling .
The answer why they are investing is because of the business plan  they write in the white paper. which is we all don't know if they are able to make or if they will continue doing it after they raised fund.

Sometime you can see the differences in white paper and allocation in website. Those times you need to examine it very closely and avoid such bounty programs from your great investment.
Then projects coming with the newbie managers and shit white papers shows the good and bad projects to you!


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Drai on November 03, 2019, 07:02:59 PM
For those that are still skeptical about the truth of that statement, consider it from this aspect... A project would be aiming to raise $3m from their IEO and they are hosting a bounty campaign where they are willing to give out $1m worth of their tokens which is 33.3% is their fundraising goal, they do this while being aware that majority of hunters would dump the tokens when they receive it in their wallets, so my question is.. is the owners of the projects cares about it's future success, do you think they would do anything at all to jeopardize the price of their tokens?


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: carriebee on November 05, 2019, 10:20:25 AM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?

We all know that even before many bounty campaign give unrealistic reward that just to tease the hunter but in the end they will not give you a huge reward and give us a penny instead. Even me I prefer a listed bounty campaign but not all listed bounty campaign project is worth it sometimes they gone too and in the end all that listed campaigns in exchange will no value. So it's important too find or research a project that have potential and will be grow the value.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: AliMan on November 05, 2019, 12:13:33 PM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...

https://i.imgur.com/SJToz0S.jpg

Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?

We all know that even before many bounty campaign give unrealistic reward that just to tease the hunter but in the end they will not give you a huge reward and give us a penny instead. Even me I prefer a listed bounty campaign but not all listed bounty campaign project is worth it sometimes they gone too and in the end all that listed campaigns in exchange will no value. So it's important too find or research a project that have potential and will be grow the value.

Doing some serious research about a good project is very important, but I wasn't amaze on those upcoming latest projects because it was so hard to determine which of them is the most potent. Unlike before the green days of crypto, most people used to have direct involvement to different bounty projects with a very promising bounty promotion which gathered 80% of their actual crowd funding. Unfortunately after 2017, the following new ICO's wasn't able to sustain on that stage and sadly all projects joined by many hunters, tend to fail on their allocations and yet scammed all bounty participants. The scenario has no realistic funds raised, due to investors were losing trust on ICO project, and that time crypto market starts to decline.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: The Cryptovator on November 06, 2019, 12:55:54 PM
The fact is join on bounty campaign for worthless token is totally unrealistic. Do you think that hunters are really care about bounty allocation? I don't think so really. Hunters just need new campaign and they will jump into that. Even they they care if they received token or not. I have past experiences in some case. Hunters always looking for new campaigns, and most likely they check their wallet regularly. If there is worth token then they will sold it and feel happy. That's all for them. One of important thing is bounty allocation for a project. Real projects likely will not pay huge amount and it probably would not unrealistic. There is a sign of amount their activity on bounty allocations but we can't determine really who is scammer just based on bounty allocations.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Chrystora123 on November 08, 2019, 09:30:14 AM
snip..
In late 2017, those rewards maybe real because there are many projects that gives thousands dollar to each participant.
but in current market condition that's almost impossible, maybe that value just their team estimation but when it enter the market , the value could be drop for more than 90%
You are right.. in the late 2017 projects that gave this much allocation appeared and many paid.  for example, projects handled by Sylon, Irfan and Lauda..  but after the price of Bitcoin fell in Q2 2018, projects that offered such large allocations like this had begun to deceive investors, causing the confidence in ICO to decrease.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Rodeo02 on November 08, 2019, 09:55:50 AM
For those that are still skeptical about the truth of that statement, consider it from this aspect... A project would be aiming to raise $3m from their IEO and they are hosting a bounty campaign where they are willing to give out $1m worth of their tokens which is 33.3% is their fundraising goal, they do this while being aware that majority of hunters would dump the tokens when they receive it in their wallets, so my question is.. is the owners of the projects cares about it's future success, do you think they would do anything at all to jeopardize the price of their tokens?
The day  you saw this you will actually notice that the owner/developer of that token has no care about investors. They just want investment and what  they Raised will not use for future development. its  too obvious greedy developer making a project just to make money. this kind of project should not be supporterd by any even bounty hunters should stay way with that.



Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: pealr12 on November 09, 2019, 03:57:30 PM
Im not joining in bounties were the bounty allocation is so high than what i expected. There are projects that has 5million dollars bounty pool which is totally insane.  For me i join in projects that has already a working product.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: muksal on November 10, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
What kind of a bounty hunter are you? the one who is always eager to promote new projects? or the one who select the projects that appeared to be worthy? or for example you like projects with million dollars allocation like...


Well here is the fact, any bounty that gives out huge bounty rewards are unrealistic, we all know that we are in a bad crypto season but still they think this is the best way to lure you, this doesn't mean the project is scam but forget the dollar price tag and don't bother to calculate based on $$$$ because you can get 10$ instead of your 500$ worth of token, i prefer already listed and trading projects, what about you? do you agree or disagree?


in my opinion it's reasonable if they give an allocation to bounty hunters with a large reward because the allocation is based on the price of the Token on sales or ICO.. but here we should not be affected by the amount of dollars specified because for now many projects are not in accordance with ICO prices after they are listed on the market ... so that at first we can get $ 1000 then after listing on the market we can only get $ 100 ... that's caused by the price of the token down,


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: develCuy on November 10, 2019, 11:45:47 PM
Realistic bounty rewards are always at the highest of 500k, those showing millions can't be trusted, they will surely dump in price when they hit exchanges and mostly the devs have nothing good to offer i think they just want to seize the opportunity to raise good money in ICO or IEO and run

Some old coins like DeVCoin will just change the bounty to reward the admins with your work
Beware old coins that change admins

unicode.03C0, can you share with me why do you think like that about Devcoin?

- develCuy


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: leea-1334 on November 11, 2019, 12:18:35 PM
in my opinion it's reasonable if they give an allocation to bounty hunters with a large reward because the allocation is based on the price of the Token on sales or ICO.. but here we should not be affected by the amount of dollars specified because for now many projects are not in accordance with ICO prices after they are listed on the market ... so that at first we can get $ 1000 then after listing on the market we can only get $ 100 ... that's caused by the price of the token down,

As the guy receiving the reward, how can you not see the dollar value when the guy offering the reward IS giving it a dollar value?

And if the project offering the dollar value is lying, then should you not go somewhere else? If someone tells me they are paying me $50 then I expect to get $50 worth, when he pays.

You cannot tell me you will pay me $1000 and send me 1 ETH today because you said oh, it was worth even more last year.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: diazepam666 on November 11, 2019, 07:02:54 PM
The tokens which is allocated in the million numbers will not be considered as million-dollar token because many people believe the the such projects and finally they where not get any funds on investing to them.
Sometime I feel personally if the people of the team gives that much fund for the bounty hunters self means we may conclude that they are small project and they cannot make big revenue with the project because they are selling a huge funds on bounty itself means what the investors will get.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: chaoscoinz on November 11, 2019, 08:21:31 PM
I think the style of bounty hunting tends to change depending upon the condition of the market and also what bounty campaigns are the most lucrative. Lucrative doesn't necessarily have to mean the highest paying but the campaign that is honest, transparent and has the most benefit in comparison to others. Either way you have to do your research and practice your Due Diligence in order to find the most successful projects. Success is entertained by your own standard measurements and may vary from person to person.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: kodtycoon on January 16, 2020, 06:38:37 AM
well, when the token has been traded then of course it will be the best choice but the fact is, most bounty projects will raise funds before they enter the exchange and what happens when the tokens are already on the exchange, the price of the token is very falling and it's not worth it


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Winscosinally on January 16, 2020, 07:09:35 AM
Many bounty hunters are now smarter, they know the difference between a bounty project that's already trading on exchange and a new project that's giving reward based on their token ICO price, it's very deceiving


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: DGulari on January 16, 2020, 09:18:24 AM
Many bounty hunters are now smarter, they know the difference between a bounty project that's already trading on exchange and a new project that's giving reward based on their token ICO price, it's very deceiving
Is there any bounty which pay you with token listed on exchange? If there is any, there would be only few of them. Most of all bounties will pay you with their new token which isn't listed on exchange


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Finestream on January 16, 2020, 09:27:23 AM
Many bounty hunters are now smarter, they know the difference between a bounty project that's already trading on exchange and a new project that's giving reward based on their token ICO price, it's very deceiving
Is there any bounty which pay you with token listed on exchange? If there is any, there would be only few of them. Most of all bounties will pay you with their new token which isn't listed on exchange
There's bounty here that pays token already in exchange, like credits last year but the reward is way lower but of course bounty hunter would work for them as it's guaranteed they will pay and the reward can be sold right away.

this is the campaign I am referring (have to search it pretty quick).https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208501.0


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: smyslov on January 16, 2020, 12:03:08 PM
Many bounty hunters are now smarter, they know the difference between a bounty project that's already trading on exchange and a new project that's giving reward based on their token ICO price, it's very deceiving
Is there any bounty which pay you with token listed on exchange? If there is any, there would be only few of them. Most of all bounties will pay you with their new token which isn't listed on exchange
There's bounty here that pays token already in exchange, like credits last year but the reward is way lower but of course bounty hunter would work for them as it's guaranteed they will pay and the reward can be sold right away.

this is the campaign I am referring (have to search it pretty quick).https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208501.0

I used to part of their bounty campaign in their ICO and I got a good rewards they have a good price in the market, the first time it hit, I remember it was Kucoin, I missed their new campaign now, because am already wearing Yobit signature, but they do pay mush lower than when they are on their ICO stage, bounty hunters now should look for coins that are already in the market, to make sure their efforts are rewarded.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: dimonstration on January 16, 2020, 12:10:18 PM
I think the style of bounty hunting tends to change depending upon the condition of the market and also what bounty campaigns are the most lucrative. Lucrative doesn't necessarily have to mean the highest paying but the campaign that is honest, transparent and has the most benefit in comparison to others. Either way you have to do your research and practice your Due Diligence in order to find the most successful projects. Success is entertained by your own standard measurements and may vary from person to person.

I'm wondering if there will be a new format in bounty hunting that will launch this year, before portals were created by bounty managers but not gain popularity as it become spam by many alt account as its out of Bitcointalk control. If there will be alike systematic method that will not require reporting but at the same time will detect legitimacy of the user profile and account it will help a lot, though there is a need that projects should be legit first.


Title: Re: Unrealistic bounty allocations
Post by: Novatech8 on January 17, 2020, 09:27:49 AM
The problem here is pointing to the value of tokens earned from bounties after they get listed on exchanges, well its not entirely the fault of project teams, i mean they still have to calculate bounty allocation at the ICO price of their tokens, I do not see anything wrong in this, market is the last thing to decide if the token will increase or decrease in value