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The year 2017 was a golden year for bitcoin wherein it got global attention after the crazy pump in it's value but are we still expecting a repeat of 2017 for the end of 2019 or beginning of 2020 ? Do we have any concrete proof that we will experience bull run apart from the bitcoin halving ? We expected the same last year but ended up in disappointment and will it be wise to expect the same or we can expect a decent pump if not multi fold increase in the value of bitcoin and altcoin ?

Yep, that's the consensus. But not until late 2020 or 2021. Can't have a 50-100x bull run every year. After such a parabolic bull run, a 1 year long bear market is to be expected. Like in 2014 and 2018.

You should watch Bob Loukas' youtube videos about market cycles and his "4 year journey" project.

tbh i have no idea. i'm a trend trader---i keep betting trends until they end. all i know is bitcoin is in a decade-long bull trend and hasn't shown any signs of stopping yet. so i'll keep hodling.


it's the consensus among bitcoin permabulls---that's it. most of the world is still fairly skeptical. if the global consensus was that bitcoin was gonna bubble next year, i'd be preparing for a crash instead.

I'm expecting it again but not set up a specific timeline where it should happen since it doesn't make sense. It will happen no matter what and you have thousands* of reasons to believe in that.

I want to see the repeat as healthy and not just because it was driven by hype.


Bottom line: Don't expect too much so you will not end up disappointed.

Will do watch the videos and yes we cannot expect similar bull run every year but I think we can expect a decent value against the bearish market we had been through and if things go in right direction we might see gradual increase and less number of dumps as this 18 months bearish market can be considered as correction period as we have seen some worthless altcoins exiting the market and still the market is being saturated because of the increasing coins in CMC and altcoins dying a slow death.

Prepared for the crash is always the best choice when we think about the cryptocurrency market. We don't know what will be the market of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies tomorrow. It can give a repeat of 2017, or it can react completely opposite. By this time if we've prepared for a bull trend and things happen opposite to the prediction our portfolio gets collapsed. If we're planned for crash as the above user we can withstand any market conditions.

There's getting on for absolute confidence from many that our tits will be blown off in 2021 ish. It's a lovely idea but I wonder whether it can possibly be that cut and dried.

The biggest uncertainty is the overall global outlook which is looking shakier by the day. 2013 and 2017 had the luxury of confidence and stability in the wider markets. That may not be the case in a couple more years and that could be the deciding factor. Bitcoin is still in the wild bet territory and you don't throw your money around if it's burning up elsewhere.

There is no concrete proof any where that can back up the claim that bitcoin will experience another bullish run like 2017 too many predictions especially from McAfee and the rest  there are speculations about 2017 event happenings , some school of thought suggested that based bitcoin  ATH in 2107  history repeat itself probably every two years bitcoin will always pump, personally I don't believe in prediction but analytically watch price movement based news events related to bitcoin around the world.

It most likely would happen. 2021ish or so would be the date of such events again since halving is 2020. Questions would be about how the world would adopt to BTC this time. Plus, how big would the crash be after the bull run since I'd expect a bubble like for that years bullrun.
Indeed. Id rather see a repeat that could maintain itself where stability is a priority instead of reaching another ATH for only a moment. It will happen sooner or later indeed, but a specific timeline could be linked to the same past events. First halving, after a year resulted ina bullrun. 2nd halving, resulted in the 2017 bubble. We could at the very least expect somekind of same events happening at 2021 which is a year after 2020.

Personally, I would not expect the magnitudes of rallies that we saw in 2017.

That was back when bitcoin market cap and total crypto market cap was still very low, so a small injection of funds into the market can essentially be leveraged into much higher percentage returns. Now that markets are more mature and market caps are significantly higher, I don't see this happening.

But the bearish sentiment should subside soon. We've seen a real bounce from the $7.5k level, which is a great sign.

Let us take not of that signs if it could take longer, and I am positive that bearish dominance would still going make it harder. I do hope everybody has learned a lot of lessons, after the previous price downturn, otherwise it would be more frustrating if another bounce will take place. While we're still in the midst of an opportunity, it shouldn't be wasted so we're able to catch the best profit in a perfect timeline.

Yes we have to optimistic about the future of cryptocurrency. 2017's price will surpass by 2020's bitcoin price because 2017 was just the beginning of crypto era.
Next bitcoin halving will also effect much in cryptocurrency price and i'm sure the media will blow up bitcoin and crypto to make crypto trends again

It could happen but we're not certainly sure that it would. As of now, it's staying under $10k which is quite a good sign of possible bull run if things would smoothly go our way. But as of any investment, there's still risks along bitcoin's growth, such as regulations and government that could bring the prices back down to where it started. But definitely, tha chances of bitcoin going up is a lot higher than it going down, but having it's bull run like in 2017 is not likely to happen imo.

no we don't.
we are instead expecting the same uptrend with big roller coasters are the past 10 years to be repeated!

it wasn't a pump and it wasn't a golden year for bitcoin just because price went up! it was a golden year because we had a couple of major mass adoption cases such as Japan adopting bitcoin as a legal way of payment, also we had the end of a 3+ year of dispute over bitcoin scaling.

you can't ask for "concrete proof" in speculation!!!

"we" didn't expect that. only people who got caught in the hype and thought a bubble can continue growing forever ended up disappointed. just like those who got disappointed because they thought the reverse-bubble can drop forever!

It ain't wise to just expect something to a market that is so volatile.

It had been a roller coaster ride since bitcoin was discovered. I dont think there is the accurate price for it even with deep technical analysis.
You have said it already, last year was a failure even if a lot of bitcoin supporters expected history to repeat itself. It never happened.
Price prediction with bitcoin is the difficult task of all specially when you want an accurate conclusion.

Better to just have the mindset of anything could happen. Always be ready.

There is no concrete proof  that we will experience the same fate of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies like happen in 2017 but I believe that this market is still young and partially mainstreamed so its growth is inevitable. Once this industry is clear from regulators and no more pressure it can grow as big as existing industries.

you are right, again market will going to moon on further days, But Bitcoin is volatile crypto currency so still some peoples are thinking the future results. Once top countries are accepting the crypto currency automatically going to moon because peoples are waiting for government regulations also so this year hype will clear the peoples expectation.

Yep, markets tend to surprise. If everyone's expecting a repeat (and I'm not sure whether that's true or not) we could stall out and crash instead, or meander sideways for years.

There is one possibility hardly anyone is expecting. Most Bitcoin bulls are betting on a logarithmic trend which has us topping out at $50-$100K in the next bubble. Maybe instead of continuing that pattern, the market blows away all expectations and heads straight for..... $10 million.

It could happen. Honey badger don't care. ;)

Actually I don't wait for those huge countries to accept bitcoins since it's a huge debate and certain ruling before that to be happen, and the one I was thinking for now is the current situation where the possibilities that can uplift the bitcoins price the same on what happen on the 2017 but hopefully the halving brings good result since I think this is most awaited time of the people to accumulate more bitcoins for staking purposes.

I think yes, because halving is something that people wait. And about people who dissapointed last year, i think it is only matter of time. Maybe it is right they join and buy bitcoin when it is pumped. That is why sometime get FOMO is bad thing. Because once we think we lost moment, we will panic and buy in any price. And not think bitcoin price will go where.

expect that too so it can be detached from the bleak times we've experienced so far but we must be aware of moments like that not only we know but in worldwide ,so don't expect anything and the advice now is just to see what happens early next month if this trend is still running maybe it could be a bullrun ;D

Opportunities such as 2017 are bound to happen just waiting for the right time, maybe in the 1st quarter of 2020, many experts want that Halving will happen soon and this will create a new explosion in the price of bitcoin might be able to reach 30k especially with China will adopt the blockchain as global marketing.

The OP is talking about the possibility for bull run "apart" from the bullish news about the Bitcoin reward halving.
Now, If you're too optimistic for a bull run next year that couldn possibly create another ATH because of the halving, Im afraid you will get disappointed from the possible result. If you have remembered the 2012 and 2016 bitcoin halving, both have ran sideways for the whole year, the bull effect occurs after a year from the halving. What I am seeing to the market trend right now will be the same as what happened from the past halving.

I really wish this happens and China could adopt blockchain technology but not sure about crypto as blockchain is a technology wherein bitcoin and crypto are based on the blockchain technology so it does not mean China will be promoting crypto but halving will play a major role as it will increase the demand and reduce the supply which might prompt a pump but I don't think it would be similar to 2017.

If bitcoin reaches atleast $15k by the end of this year or beginning of 2020 then it would be a positive sign for us.

As there's always a big possibility, we must consider all the factors that makes bullrun harder to commence. Next month or whatever date is that, we must not make it a big deal for now unless we see another spikes in the upcoming days. For now, just stay calm and enjoy the remaining day of 2019 and let's wait for any further updates this year as we welcome 2020's another journey.

I do not expect any bull run happening. Actually, I am preparing for the worst to happen before the halving. Everyone is expecting that a bull run will happen before the halving. But I expect a bear or dump before the halving because I expect the whales to accumulate bitcoin. The bull run will happen maybe 6 months to a year after the halving event.

Though I don't assume too much but since Im holding still some alts and BTC then Im still expecting 2017 to happen again but not to the point that I will stop finding ways to earn for myself. As we know that BTC and some alts have limited supply can give us idea that there will be time who know when that the price will be high again due to this limited supply. It may take more years but it all depends on how we handle our expectation in market to living in our real life.

It can go that far as momentum is now showing a good sign, since market is gaining attention and with China's showing participations it's going to be a good time to anticipate what this trend can bring to the entire industry. Expecting to have more positive movements  after another bounce happen few days ago. Bull run possibilities are always welcome as investors expecting higher ATH after.

for me . i expect another bull run and big rise in price bitcoin like last halving 2016 . we can not expect when pump will happend exactly . just buy and hold and dont sell for buying cheap
this predection for bitcoin only . but i dont think altcoins will rise . the market of altcoins now ; its diffirent comparable by past

No, we dont have any concrete proof that it could reach that high amount again.
But, we did prove already that bitcoin is volatile so you should not expect anything that you might regret later on.

I am still pessimistic with what is happening, it is too fast which is scary.
Most of the wave of bitcoin that goes at this speed ends up going back down in a week or two.
I dont know the reason behind it but there might be a manipulation that is being cooked.

This is the hope that we are all holding on since the start of the year, we all want another all-time high or just near it, and with only two months to go it's ok not to lose hope, there are so many things happening now, we have a good pump just last week, I believe that we have more good news coming in, we could have good price by the end of the year and maybe another all-time high that will surpass the last one few months before the halving, so there are a lot of developments going on.

It's possible yes but we just don't really know when. In my opinion, we may expect a repeat of 2017 or hopefully another all time high but I think it will not be in early 2020, it is expected to always have a long year bearish price before a big pump so I guess it'll be in 2021 but we really can't tell, let see in the coming months but i'm pretty confident that we will really experience a repeat of 2017.

don't be pessimistic about altcoin, I'm sure altcoin isn't dead,
and will wait for the momentum to be as big as in 2017, this we are trained to be patient!

Its better not to expect because it will just stress you out and frustrate you when the price havent moved as you anticipated.Take it as a good
example on last years last quarter event where the price havent move too much where majority do thinks about an another bull run.
For this year we cant be sure if it would happen or would be still the same on last years.Just remember that only invest on the amount that you can
afford to lose and if you do go long term for bitcoin then you wouldnt really mind too much of these events.

I am not entirely sure if it would be a "repeat of 2017" the way you think it will be but I do expect a repeat of 2017. The repeat I am talking about is the time bitcoin broke over $1k in 2017 not the $20k. Now, people remember the $20k when they talk about the 2017 but the reality is back in 2014 bitcoin was around 1400 before it fell and never seen anything above after that until 2017, in 2017 the price passed the $1.4k nonchalantly like it was nothing, it wasn't a sudden increase, it wasn't some bull hype run, it was like "we expected for a long time" type of slow increases over periods of months that eventually led to bitcoin being above $1.4k.

Now, that was how the previous ATH was broken, after that we went as high as $20k of course but I feel like next time we go over $20k it will be like that, not a huge increase of %300 suddenly, it would be months of going up and up and up and eventually going above it one day.

I have some doubts if we will have another crazy pump like before, and the reason is simple:
A lot of people sold car, house and move their investments to invest in BTC during 2017, and these people lost a lot of money in 2018, so they will be afraid to put money in BTC again

Yeah people should more patient, the all time high price in 2017 is also the result of a long wait since price crashed in 2014.
So if we even reach the all time high price this year, we should be more patient and wait for the upcoming bull run, because one thing that i trust, bitcoin demand will explode in the future and the price will be more than 50k eventhough we don't know the exact time when this will happen

I dont know who told you that. All charts that were posted here says we are now in early 2016. And new 2017 will be in 2021.  Can you point to a chart showing what you are expecting please.

I don't see we are anywhere near the golden year, everything is not the same anymore, now we got more coins to invest and the investors now are more aware of the market condition and seldom take a big risk anymore, many of us expect the bitcoin will hit ATH again, but we need to be more realistic, just let the btc grow naturally and could stabilize in each step

You really cannot predict the time in which we will see another rally but everyone is expecting the rally after the halving but there is no certainty that it will happen this time around but there is nothing wrong in expecting to see another rally this time too, the reason for the uncertainty is because many countries are planning to implement rules and regulations in the market and it might influence the market. But the difference of opinion from what you said is the Chinese adoption of blockchain does not mean they are adopting bitcoin.

It might repeat again and as you can see the year 2016 is the year of bitcoin halving and later on in the year 2017 is the year where the price of bitcoin hit the price of 20,000$ so basically, in the coming year 2020 where there is a new bitcoin halving we might expect that in next coming year which 2021 we might see a new bull run then bitcoin will have a chance to hit new all-time high price and at the same time the altcoin will also pump.

we have been seeing the same patterns of rise, rise, rise then fall repeated for over a decade now so it is not the farthest idea to expect it to be repeated again and again in the future for another decade too.

on top of that the market is building up and moving in a very similar fashion so far which can only suggest that we are indeed in the same patterns. right now it is similar to 2016, 2012 and possibly more matches in the past. and that makes 2020 a similar year to 2017 with big rises starting slow at first and speed up to end up in another bubble probably this time at $100k+

Just expect that more positive things will happen on Bitcoin and forget about the timeline of when the new ATH will happen because I'm pretty sure that no one can accurately point it out since the market is very unpredictable, let's just hope that Bitcoin become more popular globally so that the next generation will also benefits from the usefulness of its technology.

I think for next halving, a lot of people already sure it can be pumped. So it is on other people's decision want to keep believe with bitcoin or not. If me i will stay to hold bitcoin no matter what will happen before halving. Maybe with this, word about who be patient is the winner will really happen.

I think we will repeat the history in the next year before or after halving, but there is no sign about when that will happen. It still a mystery to us, and we cannot predict the time except waiting for the coming. If it's coming again, I guess that bitcoin price can rise so high, and maybe it will increase more than just $20k. Right now, many people predicting that bitcoin can hit $30k and more, but that is a prediction, and we should wait for a while and be patient.

There is nothing unusual right now happening in bitcoin. There is no big threat though. Often I read about good news well, there is some bad news but I don't think of it something that has huge effect in the community, so it all going well around pumps are going in and sometimes decreasing and usually stick to a such price at the time. So as long as there always a progress, improvements, innovations, and adoptions coming around there is nothing need to be worried about and that is why I expect that it is still possible to happen what did occur way back in 2017.

For one I dont think and broad market environment will be exactly repeated from one year or time period to another.  It would be naive to believe there are rounds 2s, rounds 3s, etc.  Each rise and fall will be unique for that time period.  So to answer your question "is there any concrete proof" you can stop right there, the answer is always NO, if someone claims otherwise they are probably trying to scam you somehow.

just make sure when it happened , you are not buying bitcoin at the very top.

2020 seems a realistic target to see another all time high broken along with the halving and some other events ahead like libra project , it is the most awaited digital money project as i don't want to call it crypto because it is really not.
for now you need to chill a little bit , there will be a swing often until the end of this year.
make money through that situation while waiting the new all time high recorded, we don't want to repeat what was happened in 2017, we want more.

the cryptocurrency space growth these days is promising a wide adoption which means the demand for bitcoin supposed to be increased too, this is the most simple logic and acceptable for sure for every crypto dreamers here.

There is something we need to understand that crypto is still unpredictable. Though we could think that history repeats itself as people say but it might be a big difference in this area. Crypto is not just like a universe where planets turning around according to their own path. Definitely, we can't expect that it will happen to crypto, only it sometimes that we could be turning down and up. But if we think for another 2017, I'm still not really optimistic about that, only I could expect for $15k before and after halving.

that's just the market cycle. people were the same way in late 2015 and early 2016---which is a better parallel for now than 2017.

less than a year ago, we were still in the throws of a bear market. people are still licking their wounds. they're skeptical of any rally. it takes time to rebuild hype and momentum. 2020 should be a lot more interesting.

you said that crypto is unpredictable then how you can say that you could not expect more than $15k, well if crypto is unpredictable then may be we get the same price and the same pump as we got in 2017, may be the price increase more than the price of 2017, so i think we should not lose hope, the price of bitcoin will reach very high and i very  optimistic about the price of bitcoin.

It will not be easy to create another hype but in year 2020 we will see that everything is possible with bitcoin. Every 3 years the price of bitcoin is getting better and hopefully it will happen again. People should be more patience because surviving from a bear market is no that easy but don’t worry we will cross that bridge soon.

We can reach some great levels again, but I'm skeptical about that frenesi we got on 2017
At least in my country, people sold their houses and cars to invest on BTC, these people lost so much money...

We can have again but with another people or some great big investors

Indeed 2017 was a golden year and I still believe that 2019 and 2020 won't bring anything special tot the crypto world besides the halv of bitcoin which is highly anticipated and a lot of people think that will trigger the bull run but I doubt it will be like that. So my prediction goes for 2021 when the real bull run will begin and we might assists as some parabolic rise of Bitcoin price...so lets wait and see what next 2 years will bring.

Yes, but the main event about next year is only halving, at least that is what i know so far. So, bull run maybe wouldn't far from it. About trend, maybe from what i speculate is people for now it look like to know the pattern. I mean usually before big event come,  bull trend will already come because people now already prepared about it. When it is confirmed that the big event will make something good, they will start to accumulate and more demands will come.

Mostly in the road are no big threat to be worried about. Everything is going well except to some hindrances. Unexpected sudden pumps been happened, China are going on its pace towards crypto currency, Venezuela government start to accept crypto most likely it would be a good start for crypto for incoming 2020. Though we aren't sure but at least we have a foundation to hold about. Nevertheless, every year is a new hope let us hope for better situation to come.

This is what I kept on telling to the people, the long term effect of the Bitcoin halving. 2021 is most likely to be the year for the bull. What we have right now is some sort of market manipulations.
If we look back how 2012 and 2016 Bitcoin halving affect the market, we could clearly see that, It began to make remarkable price pump after a year from the halving.

I don’t believe in repetition in crypto movements because for me what happen this year will never happen on the following years and same as what happens this year won’t be the same that happen the past year,while I know we need to respect each other’s opinion but this will be my stand.but of course e can have a bullrun today or tomorrow and that’s part of crypto investing

Yes we can have a bull run anytime and I am not meddling my opinion over your opinion but just saying that we can expect bull run not not the similar one which we had in 2017. It will be a great news for everyone if bullrun happens but again we cannot be only dependent on bull run and lose opportunities of getting profited with these fluctuations.

We can't expect bitcoin to be bullish like in 2017 till the end of the year, considering 3 months left until the beginning of 2020, bitcoin probably can reach $10,000-$12,000 according to some TA that I've seen which seems more likely to happen as bitcoin price still above $9K level.

Yep, and while it's tempting for a rationalist to think that 2019 bears very little to 2017 in terms of fundamental and existential threats (at least on terms of scale), Bitcoin has never really needed rationale to jump in its parabolas. We had the civil war with big blockers, people all thought it was the death of Bitcoin but no one expected what came after.

But if what didn't kill Bitcoin only made it stronger, maybe this time it won't be anything obvious that shifts the next move up.

P.S. I'm that rationalist!

Short term charts are unreliable.  Show me one chart that says $10k-$12k in 3 months and I will show you another that says $6-7k.  Which one is right?...probably neither lol.  Short term trading is a guess and crossing your fingers at best.  Long term you can predictably say that this price range is desirable whether its $8k, $6k or 11k so buy in increments on the way up and down and you should be fine

Almost two months left before the end of the year and the price is keeping its pace at the range of $10,000. Ever since it touches the $13,000 range it never went to $14,000 above anymore. But instead it keeps playing the $10,000 below range. I won't expect another repeat of bull run next year just like what happened in 2017 if the price would stay the same just like this.

If you remember, BTC was worth $1k in the start of 2017. Crypto wasn't that popular. During the middle of the year, traction started coming in. There was fuss about hardfork and the air drop of BCH because of which people started talking about Bitcoin on news. Slowly and steadily, more people came and by the end of October, there were enough people for big exchanges to manipulate the market and earn through it. That's when the manipulated started and the hype took the price to $20k which was short lived.
So, I highly doubt the repetition of that scenario again.

there is no way to tell, nobody expected the bull run in 2017(other than the random guesses) there is also not enough data to be considered reliable
to prove if there will be another bull run this year. but there is also no way to tell that we are not going to experience another bull run this year.

No.  And if something like that happened before the end of the year, it will end in disaster.

I wouldn't even say that we'll get a repeat of 2017 in the beginning of next year.  First of all, I'm hoping there's no repeat at all.  Obviously the gains in the price were great when they happened, but the aftermath sucked and the market is still recovering from that.  Don't know about you, but I don't want that to occur again.

I'd be happier with slow increases rather than huge spikes, and the former are more easily digested by the market and won't necessarily result in a huge correction.  It baffles me why so many members of bitcointalk seem to want the price of bitcoin to go to $20,000 by next week.  They obviously don't realize what will happen shortly thereafter.

I'm sure next year will be better and it looks like a big pump will happen, we are approaching the end of the year and prices are showing a slightly better change because maybe sentiment has dimmed. Anyway, the repetition will definitely happen I just need to continue to wait and be patient because there is still a big opportunity for prices to reach the moon, because when the growth of the crypto market continues to grow it is very unlikely for prices continue to decrease.

Indeed. 2017 is the golden age of bitcoin which it increased it's price up to $20,000 that most of us earned a huge profit from it, and it all goes down in the starting year of 2018 that we experienced a huge losses. In my own opinion, we could experienced that again in the year of 2020 or 2021 because as of now i see that bitcoin is now recovering it's price from it's downfall, so it could increased it's price again up to $20,000.

I personally expect to see the repeat of 2017 again and I have some reasons why I believe in it. At first remember what caused rise in 2017 year? People had huge hope that with halving they would reach 1000$ again because halving in reward means less bitcoins mined which just have to push price to rise and we got it, even more, from 600$ we reached to 20k usd.
What we want currently too? To see price rise again and not fall even deeper, so I think with this wish and halving which will revive hope among people, I expect to see serious price rise again.

It is possible, as a promising event that nearly happens and that is next year the next halving is expected next year and hopefully, the price will surge and hit again the price compared in the year 2017 the bullish happen on bitcoin price. However, we can't conclude yet a right prediction because the crypto market is unpredictable. That is right, our hope will be there is we have patiently wait when it is happening.

Honestly upto now bitcoin is still recovering from the last year downhill that made the price of bitcoin lowest or lower, lots of speculation of some users their assuming that bitcoin is over that the bubble of bitcoin just popped, even me though i thought there would be no hope but i quite shock until now that bitcoin is now recovering and coming to its price back and sooner or later, mid summer of 2020 we can assume there would be a bull run since lots of factor that technically can affect the wide range price of bitcoin.

Errbody wants a repeat of that 2017 golden year. But everbody do not want to experience again what happened the whole year of 2018.  I am not expecting another days or weeks of big pumps because one year of dumps may follow. Look at what happened last days ago, a big pump and then followed a big dump.Experienced traders and investors in crypto market are more cautious now. A big increase in price means they also need to take profits fast enough.

I almost lost my interest in this bull run if next year we won't see another break that most people start to hype then there is definitely no bull run like in 2017. But i am expecting too that bull run would eventually going to happen next year and we will see a sudden hype that would start to rise the bitcoin price. Halving should prove something every four years so that we investors and traders have something to expect.

Well don't know about "we" but i am. Not sure about the time frame but i am getting same feeling i got in 2016. I don't believe in exact repetition but more of exponential version of it and longer it takes the bigger it will be and fundamental reasons for for speculative pump are better then ever.

It made perfect sense though.

Markets hate uncertainty. Heading into August 2018, we had huge uncertainty around the UASF chain fork threat and the Bitcoin Cash fork. Once everything went smoothly on August 1st, all that uncertainty was resolved. The black cloud over the market was lifted. We were already in a strong bull market, so the logical course was for it to accelerate.

I am pretty sure by the way the markets are going people are assuming we will get a repeat of 2017. Its almost November and everybody assumes that November will be a bullish month because for the last 10 years or so (except 2018) it was always a bullish month and this is why people are overleveraging themslves on the futures again. Yesterday there was a large futures premium and a large funding rate for the bears because too many people were overly bullish and the fact that we got a huge down candle like yesterday proves that.

Another issue why its a repeat is what is going on with the alt markets. People are basically expecting alts to out perform BTC and they are started to buy alt coins this week. Many of the large cap alts started to rally and the easiest way to tell this is when ETHBTC broke the 0.02 ratio to the upside and how BTCUSD tanked during at exact time. Some whale unloaded their BTC and bought ETH instead. Most speculators are buying alts because the potential profit is much greater than just holding BTC by itself.

I don't expect that same cycle will happen for this year. We're just 2 months away for this year to end although there can be a lot of things that can happen within a very short period of time but I'm not expecting a lot.

I've expected a lot last year and I found myself wrong with those expectations and became disappointed. That's why I'm looking forward to a better year but not the same expectation that I've made last time.

Nobody knows the future but there's some things in the works that could trigger something similar next year or beyond.

The Bitcoin halvening is around May of 2020, right now about 1800 Bitcoins are mined every day, at today's prices that's around $16 million in USD value created every day.  It's questionable if there's that much in new demand for BTC on average every day, but once only 900 are created everyday if BTC is still the global standard things will be looking up. 

A lot of people smarter than me are thinking ETH could boom if ETH continues to be the platform of choice for DeFi and dApps.

The 2017 boom was partly from noobs entering via word of mouth, Facebook was full of posts by people telling their pals to get into XRP and ETH.  After the market crashed and many of these hodlers got burnt there's a lot of negative sentiment by normies toward crypto, but the halvening and short term memory could bring fresh blood again.   

it was over . 2017 cycle repeated earlier this year . didnt you guys notice on the quarter one and two that we experience some good gains or a good boost on the price after the 2018 catalyst ? that give a hope to everyone else on this space however eventually the trend slighly change . i guess we will end the year without really a good bang but im expecting  for at least 10k on the value of btc before anything else

I think at that dump of bitcoin everybody was very shocked and due to which a lot of people were very disappointed and thought that bitcoin is finish and sold all their bitcoin, but still there were many people who remained calm and hold bitcoin because they were sure that bitcoin will recover again and bitcoin will rise again, and now bitcoin is coming back to its price again and in the year 2020 or in the end of 2019 the bull run will stabilize the price.

We are likely going to see the bull run of bitcoin again but certainly not this year. My prediction of bitcoin's next bull run is definitely after the halving of bitcoin in May 2020. From history, bitcoin always have a surge in price after the halving of its block reward. Hopefully we can see it happen one more time. Unfortunately, most altcoins are not going to ride with this wave of bitcoin's bull run unless the major altcoins such as ETH, TRX, BNB, XRP.

I still expect another major bullrun anytime from now. Now that there are good developments on bitcoin like halving, it will happen again. China's good insight on bitcoin was a big news for Chinese investors. Recently in Canada a major stock exchange is also interested in listing bitcoin. Maybe this time, bullrun will be not as high as the previous rise but it is better to avoid another big dip too.

See we all are optimistic about btc growth and we all know 2017 was golden period for bticoin as prices were ATH crossing $20k and altcoin also followed the rally at that time as market was profitable for trading and bull run was hitting the market but after that market crash and we saw huge dump situatuons in market but we hope 2020 halving have major positive impact on prices and we see price growth high next year.It can cross $12k by the end of 2019 so hope for best.

The golden era of crypto may come once again, but I don't think it will happen this year! The crypto bull run can start after the Bitcoin halving which is fixed on 14 May 2020! And this time Bitcoin will surpass the previous high of 2017!  Therefore the crypto market will boost in November, but that will not be a bull run!

I think it will be a gradual price increase when we experience until first quarter of 2020 then we might see a fall which might be planned for the purpose of reinvestment in order to cash out post bull run which might start post bull run and yes if we don't see bull run this year then it will be much bigger in the year 2020 and we will have more players and users are well aware of whale's tactics so it will be really interesting this time.

This is not the end yet of bitcoin golden era, some places started to recognize bitcoin and I’m confident before the halving we will see an expensive bitcoin again, this update will boost the price and limit the supply. We will not just repeat the year 2017, we will go beyond that level until we make our dream goal in the future.

Maybe, There are maximum chances for bitcoin repeating 2017 at the end of this year. because we repeat the one point again and again that bitcoin is unpredictable coin and At the moment market is continuously fluctuating but it is showing increase in values as well. There are so many people who are ready to invest a lot into bitcoin and if bitcoin simply touches 10k by the end of 2019, we will see huge increase in the number of buyers which will in return increase value of bitcoin.

We might be wrong with our predictions that btc will surpass another ath on 2020 after the halving. I have been following the trend which takes place in the first and second btc halving and I noticed the market did not have the pump on the same year with the halving. November could be the start of the rise but most probably the market will be great again on 2021 and it might going to break new record of all time high.

I wasn't expecting so much out of this years market because the market hasn't totally chosen side yet and it also highly manipulated. Concern the year 2020 which is the bitcoin block halving, the crypto market will experience another ridiculous surge in price for its logical price momentum posed by the crypto market.

No one knows this thing I know it’s only 3 months left behind but we know bitcoin is unpredictably it can increase to any extent. We know it’s all about supply and demand so if the demand will be high then price will increase and my expert friends told me that price will soon going to experience huge pump the same as 2017 so we only have to wait and hold.

its more than $11k to all time high on december 2017 and if there is no significant movement in market we will no see this.market need huge fresh money from another market so its capitalization could support for bitcoin movement.supply and demand in current condition still not good,sometime after make spike,suddenly price drop again.fresh money be the key for bitcoin price in future.

Personally I don't but it seems there are many who still beleive that 2017 scenario could repeat by the end of this year.
To my opinion such prediction isn't likely to happen and there are no conditions for such sudden and sharp price rise in such short period of time. According to my predictiin 10000$ is upper level that Bitcoin could achieve this year.

I am actually expecting a repeat this year, I was so optimistic from the very start but I think its almost that we will not see a bull run this year.
Maybe in the next 1 to 2 years if there are big adoption that would result to some hype, we can't really tell when but we just have to believe sooner it will happen, that's being optimistic and actually that's my only strength why I was able to cash out a good profit last time and I still survive until now.

for this year, it looks like we can't expect a very high pump like 2017, but some people who are good enough in the analysis indeed assume that there is a big possibility that the increase in the price of bitcoin, or cryptocurrency can occur in the next two years, namely in 2020 to 2021. Until now I still very much expect a rise in the price of bitcoin this year, it might be good enough when the price could reach $ 12000.

That would be better since if you expect to much then your expectation will not meet then you will be sad for that or worse you will lose some money, But come to think that halving  effect is great and see  the statistics of the past history of it  for sure  you will see great things coming in future and provably we  can see  maybe another 20k$ level.

In the beginning of this year i thought there will be happened 2 year cycle but i was clearly wrong about it because i didn't see the price will be pumped again and i personally yes still expect the glory of year for crypto such as on 2017 will be repeat again and as next year will be happened halving for bitcoin then i wish the price will slightly better than the current price

History won't repeat, because the market will be different in a couple of years. there may be same pattern, but next time it will be greatly condensed. Bitcoin is in a way better position than even last year. 4 years ago our minds would be blown if we would heard how far it would come. Next bull run may start mid 2020. The 2014 rally was only caused by retailers, same for the 2017 rally. Next year we will have the big players in the game. what we need is adoption and not pure speculation. Adoption will drive the price up. There are only 21 million BTC and 30 percent are probably lost already. Maybe 15 million coins left to use. If there would be global adoption we won't talk about BTC anymore, we will talk about how much a Satoshi will be worth.

Ofcourse yes, well at least for me, i’m still expecting that will have a repeat of 2017 and i’m hoping and expecting it’ll be a little better from 2017, I just don’t know when exactly but i’m confident will surely have another all time high which will happen probably early next year or perhaps a year after. It is true that a lot are losing hope with today’s fluctuation in the price but I think they just need to be reminded that bitcoin is very unpredictable as it is before but despite that it will surely soar high so they just need to be a little patient.

2017 - Q4 was parabolic, it was a relentless rise. I don’t think we’ll see a repeat of that performance this year, probably not even in 2020 but 2021 around 12 months after the halving it’s definitely possible.

Definitely not, because we are just basing on the previous chart history but it doesn't mean that the price will repeat or the chart will repeat the same run as 2017.there's and there will be a big difference and we can say that we are going to pump higher than the All time high without breaking or surpassing the last peak.

Not only 2017 but we are going through the whole cycle of 2013-2014-2015-2016-2017 in general.

Looking back we can see that in 2013 the price went up a bit but not too much, in 2014 it went up super high, in 2015 it went down and didn't go up too much, in 2016 it went up a bit but not too much, in 2017 it went up super high, in 2018 it went down a lot didn't go up, in 2019 it went up a bit but not too much so from the same cycle as you can see the increases in 2014 and in 2017 could be same for 2020 as well, same happens all the time, hell I can even see the future where in 2021 it will go down a lot and won't go up, in 2022 it will go up a bit and in 2023 it will go up a lot, same thing over and over again. We will see in 2020 if that's the case or if I am wrong.

I only see something positive for price happening in 2020 among the fact that in 2018 and 2019, has been downside for bitcoin. In 2020, we are likely to see a need generation of adopters just as we saw in 2018 after the ATH but unfortunately, the price dropped till now but I'm kind of optimistic we are going bull after this year.

2017 bull run was a new thing to the crypto market. No one expected anything of that sort which was the reason of its success. People didn't when to sell. They kept on hodling which gave incentive to exchanges and the whales to manipulate the price more. This created an euphoria. Many people fell prey and then price starting plummeting and then we saw 2018 bear phase.
I doubt such thing gonna happen now. As people are prepared this time. If you have noticed, altcoin market is losing grip whereas in last bull run of 2017, altcoins contributed a big part. 

We will definitely see Bitcoin as what it look like before 2017 or even more greater however, there no precise time when we will see it again. Bitcoin especially Blockchain is now being acknowledge by government, for instance, the president of China had a speech about promulgation of Blockchain technology. This acknowledgement will be capture more investors that would create a big impact in the fluctuations of cryptocurrencies.

of course, all of us are definitely hoping for 2017 to be repeated
I still remember being able to make hundreds of dollars from crypto because of the very high bullish market
I hope that time will repeat again.

No one can really give you a certain answer to this question, but a lot yes. It’s increasingly looking likely. I have always been a pioneer that we will see a slower approach on the way to the highs of 2017, but the price movement of late has been somewhat fast. the price of Bitcoin will continue to rise indefinitely. Unlike fiat currency, the Bitcoin supply is controlled and deflationary in nature. The technology is catching on more and more as awareness increases. No one can predict price movements with absolute certainty, but I will not be surprised if we hit the $50,000 per bitcoin level by 2020-2021.

This is an interesting cyclical view of the market but even if it does not become true it is still a useful guide, there are many that are expecting this year to have an end similar to what we saw in 2017 and to me this is too soon, I have always thought that in order to see something similar to what happened in 2017 we will need to wait at least until 2020 with 2022 being the latest I think we should wait, but if you are a long term holder all of this does not matter as you will get your profits anyway.

I expect it to happen because of the 200 WMA that is this long term trendline that Bitcoin is following. It supported us at 3k USD and I doubt we will ever break it as long as fundamentals remain strong. This means that we won't fall below 5000 dollars again. If you did not buy when you had a chance this train has left the station and it's not coming back.
Will we repeat 2017? Yes, but the question is when. At this rate we will keep setting higher lows for the next few months and at some point it will lead to another rally. It can happen next year or maybe in 2 years, but the price is always drawn to the previous top. We've only been at 20k once and I'm sure we will go there again, even if only to retest it and mark it as a strong resistance.

Its going to happen when people least expect it so if they are speculating it this 2020-2022, it ma not really happen. But probably because of halving the price will still go up to about $15k. Whatever happens, we still have to wait even if it happens on 2022. There would have to be a good event besides halving that would come for the price to be pushed to start a bullrun. The Chinese coin is probably going to help to spike price when its finally release.

No worry mate, as this question is always answerable by no, not sure or it may be...It sounds like we don't have any assurance for a big bounce-back of prices. If we look into the current situation right now, we can certainly figure out that it will be difficult to make another jump. yes, it can be possible to have some pumps but not actually be the same as what we experience last 2017 bullish. I know it gives us disappointment but much better if we accept the fact and market reality.

Bitcoin dominance is already very high at 67.4% sources from Coinmarketcap, we can compare it in 2017 Bitcoin dominance is 58%,
and the price of Bitcoin breaks above $ 16000, in 2019 this Bitcoin is only able to go up to $ 12000, that's not bad,
why is bitcoin can't go up to over $ 16,000? in my opinion this is because the marketcap cannot penetrate the same in 2017, if the dominance of bitcoin falls below 50%, then the bull for bitcoin seems to have finished  ;)

I really have high expectation for next halving. Because i don't have anything else to guess bitcoin price will increased soon. But if it not like my expectation, it is ok then. About bull trend is apart from halving, i don't think it can possibly happen because need big event to make bitcoin price increased. And the only way for now or maybe at least thing that people can imagine is halving.

of course, I also still hope that bitcoin goes up like 2017. But I can't predict when it will happen because bitcoin is very volatile. I'm not sure bitcoin will be bullrun by the end of this year. I predict the bullrun will occur in 2020 after bitcoin halving day. therefore what I do for now is hold it in and wait until 2020.

It is definitely not bad. The price still rallying good and not even jumping straight down just like what happens after the bull run last 2017. It is quite good enough to think that Bitcoin is in the high level of potentiality, price isn't melting hard which helps altcoins to stay at high. Though not all of them stays to that level but it manages some of them to keep in the race.

We failed this year, we will have to think of the other year, probably next year if the halving would bring positive things in the market.
People will just invest again once the rally starts because there still a lot of people which will again FOMO when everything is pumping, especially the altcoins.

Last 2017, the most profitable were the altcoins, so at this very cheap price now of altcoins, it will result to major profit once a bull run happens.
Don't loss hope, keep the faith because crypto is here to stay, bull run will just just only come at the right timing.

Many seem to be expecting the halving will increase the price almost immediately and that is not the way things happen, the last halving was in 2016 and the price did not went up until 2017, this is why I am predicting the next bubble will not appear until 2021 or 2022 at the latest, what we saw now was nothing but a simple correction since the price was too low for too long and smart investors took advantage of it, and I believe 2020 will be a slow but profitable year for altcoins.

Indeed, halving could be the answer we're looking for all along. But anything could happen.
No one knows that when that happens we will see another bull run, but that's what people were hoping for to happen.
The past year we've been in a pretty bad condition and markets included. So I don't know what to hope anymore. And 2019 is a bit better.
Will 2017 repeat its history? Or will we going through another disappoinment? 2020 is nearly there.

Throughout 2019 there was no significant increase, I'm sure in 2020 there will be a pretty good movement in prices, especially the hype in 2020 is so big. many crypto influencers predict that in 2020 the price of bitcoin will increase higher, especially in 2020 halving will occur and yeah I also expect the same thing as 2017 which previously increased higher after halving.

They say history will repeat itself thus I believe bull run can happen without specific time frame it can take even years from now. We anticipate every end of the year is going to be good like what happened last 2017 and because we are in 4th quarter already many investors think of this possibility. However I doubt there's a bull run for this year (though its not impossible due to high volatile market) halving next year can trigger a bull run and thats what I look forward.

Yes some really positive predictions and bitcoin halving are two primary reason we might most of us are awaiting for, I am sure after there will be some positive changes in the market. Next six months will be very interesting as this six month will pave path for further bullish or bearish market and I think there will be too many temporary fluctuations on the way until halving.