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Title: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Darker45 on November 01, 2019, 04:32:57 AM
I wonder why nobody here is discussing about the upcoming rematch fight between The Bronze Bomber and the The Real King Kong. Is this rematch battle too long overdue that there is no more hype left? Well, the day is coming near and the battle is definitely going to end with one of them lying on the canvas.

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Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Jating on November 01, 2019, 04:45:19 AM
It's because boxing fans are waiting for the Joshua vs Ruiz II.

But I appreciate you reminding us with this rematch as well. The first match was very exciting, Ortiz when down twice but I think he came back in the 6th or 7th round and put Wilder almost to his knees. It was back and forth until Wilder came back round 9th and 10th and put Ortiz in the canvass for the fourth time and it was over.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 01, 2019, 04:59:27 AM
Probably another get busy fight for Wilder but this is very dangerous for him. His chin was tested by Ortiz and he almost got knock down in their first fight. And this is the reason why he is giving Ortiz a rematch to prove that he is the best (well Fury can debate that).

I think it will end up the same, Wilder will win but as boxing fans we wanted it to be as exciting or even more compare to their first fight.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Wexnident on November 01, 2019, 05:26:34 AM
Imma wait and see what Wilder will do to defend his title as a King. He overcame a lot with his first fight with Ortiz and well, I expect a huge fight for this upcoming rematch. The first match was exciting with a back to back advantage between the two, not being clear who was a cut above each other. Wilder won in the end, but I want to see how Ortiz would comeback since he had a chance, he just failed to take it in the first match.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: gabmen on November 01, 2019, 05:35:01 AM
Well, this is something that's worth watching if you base it on their previous fight. Ortiz for me would've won that fight if wilder hadn't gotten than KO through. Though this time around, my bet's on Ortiz.  Coming off a three fight win streak, age seem to have a hard time catching up to him at 40. Wilder did get a pretty controversial draw with Tyson Fury and a KO afterwards, but unless we get the same ending as their first fight, we may very well looking at another trilogy here.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: carlisle1 on November 01, 2019, 05:50:39 AM
in boxing there's always one fight that people may stick to wait and it happens that Wilder and Ortiz 11 fight is almost closer to the Ruiz and Joshua Bout so there are confusion from the fans but since the late match is very sensually and  popular this is what we are going to look at,and we have limited budget per match and it happens that i am waiting for Ruiz and Joshua to bet in.
Imma wait and see what Wilder will do to defend his title as a King. He overcame a lot with his first fight with Ortiz and well, I expect a huge fight for this upcoming rematch. The first match was exciting with a back to back advantage between the two, not being clear who was a cut above each other. Wilder won in the end, but I want to see how Ortiz would comeback since he had a chance, he just failed to take it in the first match.
the fight is close and winner cant be determined until being decided by the judges so we need a clean fight that Knocking out is the answer if whom really deserve the title


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: bering on November 01, 2019, 06:43:16 AM
Looking at to their fight statistics i think both of fighters can be considered as one of the best boxer and their match always be entertaining us but in this case Deontay Wilder slightly better than Luis Ortiz because on the first met Wilder can able to won the fight with TKO but i recently seeing their interview that both of them will guarantee not ended this fight with 12 round which mean they have an ambition to finished the match with TKO again


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: aioc on November 01, 2019, 07:04:59 AM
It's because boxing fans are waiting for the Joshua vs Ruiz II.

But I appreciate you reminding us with this rematch as well. The first match was very exciting, Ortiz when down twice but I think he came back in the 6th or 7th round and put Wilder almost to his knees. It was back and forth until Wilder came back round 9th and 10th and put Ortiz in the canvass for the fourth time and it was over.

I have not watched the first fight but honestly, I watched one of the press conferences and it's not really attractive like all the coming fight that is posted here, because obviously, this is going to be Deontay's another winning fight, but it's going to be interesting if there's an upset that's going to happen


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Oasisman on November 01, 2019, 07:35:28 AM
Looking at to their fight statistics i think both of fighters can be considered as one of the best boxer and their match always be entertaining us but in this case Deontay Wilder slightly better than Luis Ortiz because on the first met Wilder can able to won the fight with TKO but i recently seeing their interview that both of them will guarantee not ended this fight with 12 round which mean they have an ambition to finished the match with TKO again

"Wilder slightly better than Ortiz" a better way to compare both fighters, but Ortiz was about to K.O Wilder on their first fight in the 7th round and got saved by the bell, not to mention he (Wilder) got saved by the ref for stopping the fight and gave him 30 secs. to recover to be checked by a doctor only to find out he's not even cutted.
I dont like Wilder as a boxer he is more like a street fighter throwing a full round 360 haymakers.
This 2nd match will be a redemption fight for Ortiz.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: smyslov on November 01, 2019, 07:52:36 AM
The first fight is very exciting Ruiz got Wilder hurt in that fight, but still Wilder is the better fighter between the two, he is the more intelligent fighter has a great move and a lot of hay maker in his arsenal, the first one is exciting I expect the second to be another exciting fight, it will be slug fest like the first one, and we can expect a knock out here Deontay will win by a knock out here.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: robelneo on November 01, 2019, 08:42:04 AM
I wonder why nobody here is discussing about the upcoming rematch fight between The Bronze Bomber and the The Real King Kong. Is this rematch battle too long overdue that there is no more hype left? Well, the day is coming near and the battle is definitely going to end with one of them lying on the canvas.

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There's really going to be a knockout here, both fighters can deliver a knockout, Kingkong Ruiz, as he is called, almost got Deontay he just runs out of time, but I still believe, that Deontay will come out the winner here by a knockout, he has the reach advantage, good lateral movement, of course, knock out punch, but I will not rule out an upset here, because Ruiz also has a devastating punch, his awkwardness will give Deontay a hard time.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: YOSHIE on November 01, 2019, 08:46:22 AM
I didn't know they would bet again in Las Vegas this November.

This is very interesting to bet between Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz, I will put up a few pounds for this classy boxer. Which side is this secret.
Can someone give me this official boxer betting website.
I really bet on this boxer.

This is very interesting i like classy boxing.
I installed Crawford vs Kavaliauskas yesterday, and now I will install again between Deontay Wilder vs Luis Ortiz.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Jating on November 01, 2019, 10:58:08 AM
It's because boxing fans are waiting for the Joshua vs Ruiz II.

But I appreciate you reminding us with this rematch as well. The first match was very exciting, Ortiz when down twice but I think he came back in the 6th or 7th round and put Wilder almost to his knees. It was back and forth until Wilder came back round 9th and 10th and put Ortiz in the canvass for the fourth time and it was over.

I have not watched the first fight but honestly, I watched one of the press conferences and it's not really attractive like all the coming fight that is posted here, because obviously, this is going to be Deontay's another winning fight, but it's going to be interesting if there's an upset that's going to happen
I suggest you see the first fight because it was really exciting. As I have said, there's a lot of momentum shift and even though Ortiz was down early twice, he went back fought his heart's out, almost knock down Wilder. But in the next two rounds it was Wilder's turn and finished him up with an upper cut.

Now, fans are asking for more, they want the fight extend to another 12 rounds of exciting swings. And I think this is the first time that Deontay was really tested in a fight. Please note as well that Ortiz is a lefty and that's why it gives him problems early but Deontay adjusted very well. Will Ortiz derail the plans of Deontay here?


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Bttzed03 on November 01, 2019, 11:25:47 AM
Many boxing fans here has probably forgotten about Luiz Ortiz because another name came up which is Ruiz.

It's because boxing fans are waiting for the Joshua vs Ruiz II.
~
And Fury vs. Wilder II

but if Ortiz beats Wider, that will be another shake up and the rematch between the two might not happen.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: robelneo on November 01, 2019, 02:31:35 PM
Many boxing fans here has probably forgotten about Luiz Ortiz because another name came up which is Ruiz.

It's because boxing fans are waiting for the Joshua vs Ruiz II.
~
And Fury vs. Wilder II

but if Ortiz beats Wider, that will be another shake up and the rematch between the two might not happen.


Just imagine there's an upset here, and the other Ruiz, Andy Ruiz also wins his rematch, now we have two Ruiz champions and there will be a major shake up this year in the heavyweight, all those considered to be box office champions are not there anymore, I will not rule out upset in this fight because kingkong Ruiz can punch and knock everybody, he just lacks the head movement, something his trainers should on.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: DarkDays on November 01, 2019, 02:36:43 PM
I think the Ortiz rematch will go much the same way that the Stiverne rematch went... Wilder will probably KO him MUCH quicker this time.

Ortiz is old AF, he's probably the oldest 40-year old I've ever seen... He could easily be 45-46. Either way, he was beaten by Wilder almost 2 years ago by knockout, so the same result will happen again.

Wilder has gotten better, Ortiz couldn't even KO Christian Hammer in their last fight.

I predict Wilder by savage knockout within 4 rounds.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Bttzed03 on November 01, 2019, 02:43:13 PM
I think the Ortiz rematch will go much the same way that the Stiverne rematch went... Wilder will probably KO him MUCH quicker this time.

Ortiz is old AF, he's probably the oldest 40-year old I've ever seen...

Wilder has gotten better, Ortiz couldn't even KO Christian Hammer in their last fight.

I predict Wilder by savage knockout within 4 rounds.
I'm leaning towards Wilder by KO also but not that quick. Ortiz maybe older but up to this day, he's only lost once and he could have made some improvements also. Whatever the result, I'm going to enjoy watching this fight.




@robelneo I know their surnames sounds the same but it's Luis Ortiz and Andy Ruiz (not Luis Ruiz).



Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Oilacris on November 01, 2019, 02:52:43 PM
Many boxing fans here has probably forgotten about Luiz Ortiz because another name came up which is Ruiz.

It's because boxing fans are waiting for the Joshua vs Ruiz II.
~
And Fury vs. Wilder II

but if Ortiz beats Wider, that will be another shake up and the rematch between the two might not happen.

That would had some changes on events if that's the case but to believe that kind of possibility is somewhat hard to push on.
Im not underestimating Ortiz but beating up Wilder? Not this time. He might show some good fight on the previous one but it wont
really be that enough to took the spot.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: TopTort777 on November 01, 2019, 02:59:11 PM
It's because boxing fans are waiting for the Joshua vs Ruiz II.


Or the fans preferred to see Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury  :D


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: uray on November 01, 2019, 03:51:27 PM
The first fight is very exciting Ruiz got Wilder hurt in that fight, but still Wilder is the better fighter between the two, he is the more intelligent fighter has a great move and a lot of hay maker in his arsenal, the first one is exciting I expect the second to be another exciting fight, it will be slug fest like the first one, and we can expect a knock out here Deontay will win by a knock out here.
Luis Ortiz is 40 years old and if the fight would have happened when he was much younger then we would have seen a good fight and even in the first fight Luis Ortiz was able to hurt Wilder but then he gassed out and then Deontay Wilder was able to finish him after that and that fight tested the chin of Deontay Wilder.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Jating on November 01, 2019, 04:05:32 PM
It's because boxing fans are waiting for the Joshua vs Ruiz II.


Or the fans preferred to see Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury  :D

Probably,  ;D

Good thing is that the heavyweight division is alive again, no more Klitschko brothers who have been dominating the division for so long. Of course, we wanted to see some upsets here, so really shake up the division and makes it more interesting.

Of course there could be boxing bettors here who always goes for the underdogs.  :)


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: bassbity on November 01, 2019, 04:05:41 PM
Please tell me which television broadcasts this boxing match, because in my country I don't show this super boxing, Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz is a fierce fight if I bet this might be a big profit.
I look forward to this battle begin.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Upgate on November 01, 2019, 06:16:02 PM
This is a big match with two competitive fighters but it's not going to be much of an excitement just like deaontay wilder fights he has a way of dominating the match from start to finish making the fight boring


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: ene1980 on November 01, 2019, 07:31:11 PM
Please tell me which television broadcasts this boxing match, because in my country I don't show this super boxing, Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz is a fierce fight if I bet this might be a big profit.
I look forward to this battle begin.
You can watch the match in Fox Sports or Sky Sports, i am not sure which country you are from and hence i cannot give you a proper guidance on which channel it will telecast, the first fight was really interesting as Deontay Wilder had some challenges to overcome before defeating Luis Ortiz, if not for the age of Ortiz i would have given him a real chance against a young Wilder with a lot of power in his shots.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: notblox1 on November 01, 2019, 08:11:56 PM
This is some great news... and very low odds for Deontey Wilder win.
Maybe Wilder win by KO would be best bet here.
I just can't see Ortiz finishing this fight on his feets


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Oceat on November 01, 2019, 08:21:23 PM
This is a big match with two competitive fighters but it's not going to be much of an excitement just like deaontay wilder fights he has a way of dominating the match from start to finish making the fight boring
I wonder if one of them would really hit the canvas, now that they were both aware of their opponents style. Ortiz is a little too good for Wilder but I guess he will make something to get closer with that gap. A lot of fight is getting too close each day and that makes us who do love sports and gambling at the same time to not miss out with them.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Baofeng on November 01, 2019, 09:59:03 PM
I think the Ortiz rematch will go much the same way that the Stiverne rematch went... Wilder will probably KO him MUCH quicker this time.

Ortiz is old AF, he's probably the oldest 40-year old I've ever seen... He could easily be 45-46. Either way, he was beaten by Wilder almost 2 years ago by knockout, so the same result will happen again.

Wilder has gotten better, Ortiz couldn't even KO Christian Hammer in their last fight.

I predict Wilder by savage knockout within 4 rounds.

You nailed it, I don't think that Ortiz has improved in his last 3 fights after his first bout with Wilder. But we all know that Wilder did give us one of the best performance with the Fury fight. While Ortiz looks old as f**k against Hammer.

I know that style makes fight, but I see Deontay adjusted already to the style of Ortiz so it will be much easier for him in the rematch, brutal KO under 6 rounds for Wilder.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Kemarit on November 01, 2019, 11:39:59 PM
This is a big match with two competitive fighters but it's not going to be much of an excitement just like deaontay wilder fights he has a way of dominating the match from start to finish making the fight boring
I wonder if one of them would really hit the canvas, now that they were both aware of their opponents style. Ortiz is a little too good for Wilder but I guess he will make something to get closer with that gap. A lot of fight is getting too close each day and that makes us who do love sports and gambling at the same time to not miss out with them.

On the first fight, Luis Ortiz was down 4x, Deontay "almost" went down but he was saved by the bell. So if this fight, everyone thinks the Luis Ortiz has a chance to give Wilder his first lost because of the guts he show in the first fight. However, I agree that Ortiz chance here are very slim because Wilder definitely gain a lot of experience from the first Fury fight and we could tell the really that he really became a better fighter now as compare to 2 years ago. So as much as we love to see Ortiz disturbing the Heavyweight scene similar to what Ruiz did, I don't think he has enough tools to beat Wilder as this point.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Darker45 on November 02, 2019, 03:40:29 AM
This is a big match with two competitive fighters but it's not going to be much of an excitement just like deaontay wilder fights he has a way of dominating the match from start to finish making the fight boring

You are definitely wrong in this. Have you watched the whole fight? First, it was not boring at all. It was one hell of a fight. Second, Ortiz had the scorecards in the first four rounds. It was not all Wilder from start to finish. In fact, both showtime and CBS Sports had Ortiz ahead when the fight was stopped.[1] Third, Ortiz nearly put Wilder down if not with the bell. Ortiz has the strong punches and capable enough to put Wilder down.

I would consider this second match a Wilder fight though, but mainly on the age factor. Ortiz may be a strong and brilliant boxer with his amazing counter-punching skills and power punches, but with an age of 40 his reflexes must be a lot different now. This fight should have been fought much earlier.

[1] https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/deontay-wilder-thrills-with-knockout-of-luis-ortiz-to-retain-heavyweight-title/


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: coin-investor on November 02, 2019, 11:12:23 AM
This is some great news... and very low odds for Deontey Wilder win.
Maybe Wilder win by KO would be best bet here.
I just can't see Ortiz finishing this fight on his feets

Wilder is such a great fighter, but I'm pretty sure he will not take Ortiz, for granted, he has felt his power he was almost knock out if there is a minute of that round where Wilder is in trouble, Ortiz could have finished the fight, I predict the fight will end in a knock out or stoppage because both fighters are capable of knocking out their opponents, I'll still go for Wilder.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: serjent05 on November 02, 2019, 12:21:07 PM
Probably another get busy fight for Wilder but this is very dangerous for him. His chin was tested by Ortiz and he almost got knock down in their first fight. And this is the reason why he is giving Ortiz a rematch to prove that he is the best (well Fury can debate that).

I think it will end up the same, Wilder will win but as boxing fans we wanted it to be as exciting or even more compare to their first fight.

Probably not, as you stated Ortiz had found some flaw on the defence of Wilder and might probably exploit it (strategy towards Wilder's chin).  I am sure Ortiz work extra hard for this fight and the thinking of the fight ends up Wilder winning is somehow leaning on over expectation. I guess it is still too early to say who will win, in boxing both have  punching power so the possibility to knock out the other opponent  goes on both ends.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Ararbermas on November 02, 2019, 03:55:40 PM
Because there are more big upcoming fights on this month wherein before their rematch. But you know it doesn't mean this is not an interesting fight.  Because this both legendary are very hype within the ring and it was a close fight honestly.  Both are very heavy handed .and on this rematch there's a possibility luis can knock oit wilder because if you saw the fight wilder struggling and always dizzy when luis lunching an straight job.  So this an interesting rematch also. 


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Oilacris on November 02, 2019, 04:02:04 PM
Probably another get busy fight for Wilder but this is very dangerous for him. His chin was tested by Ortiz and he almost got knock down in their first fight. And this is the reason why he is giving Ortiz a rematch to prove that he is the best (well Fury can debate that).

I think it will end up the same, Wilder will win but as boxing fans we wanted it to be as exciting or even more compare to their first fight.

Probably not, as you stated Ortiz had found some flaw on the defence of Wilder and might probably exploit it (strategy towards Wilder's chin).  I am sure Ortiz work extra hard for this fight and the thinking of the fight ends up Wilder winning is somehow leaning on over expectation. I guess it is still too early to say who will win, in boxing both have  punching power so the possibility to knock out the other opponent  goes on both ends.
Everything could happen in a fight.Even underdogs would really able to make up some upset matches.It depends though because lucky punches
can happen or even sudden turns of events due to tremendous preparation for the fight.Between these two its clear that Wilder is heavily favorite but
don't easily take up chances because outcome can possibly be turned table instead.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 02, 2019, 05:13:59 PM
Looking at to their fight statistics i think both of fighters can be considered as one of the best boxer and their match always be entertaining us but in this case Deontay Wilder slightly better than Luis Ortiz because on the first met Wilder can able to won the fight with TKO but i recently seeing their interview that both of them will guarantee not ended this fight with 12 round which mean they have an ambition to finished the match with TKO again

Wilder took that '0' from Ortiz L column. So definitely, prior to the fight both fighters didn't have any lost. So their first fight was really amazing as both are confident to win.

However, The Brown Bomber was able to withstand Ortiz best punches and in turn knock him out with a huge combination and the final nail is the upper cut. His been throwing that upper cut in that fight, but he hit Ortiz perfectly. That's why I said that the fight will end up the same, Wilder still has the upper hand and as someone has said, Ortiz looks really old, probably here for the paycheck.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: JohnBitCo on November 02, 2019, 05:55:44 PM
Because there are more big upcoming fights on this month wherein before their rematch. But you know it doesn't mean this is not an interesting fight.  Because this both legendary are very hype within the ring and it was a close fight honestly.  Both are very heavy handed .and on this rematch there's a possibility luis can knock oit wilder because if you saw the fight wilder struggling and always dizzy when luis lunching an straight job.  So this an interesting rematch also. 

If there are many other fights , it does not mean that we overlook this match which is gonna held on November 23 at the MGM Arena in Las Vegas. In their last match which was held on March 3, 2018 , Wilder defeated Luis and I ma hoping to see the same result in this rematch. Wilder is defending champion and I don't think Luis can take this title from him.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: eaLiTy on November 02, 2019, 08:04:02 PM
Wilder is such a great fighter, but I'm pretty sure he will not take Ortiz, for granted, he has felt his power he was almost knock out if there is a minute of that round where Wilder is in trouble, Ortiz could have finished the fight, I predict the fight will end in a knock out or stoppage because both fighters are capable of knocking out their opponents, I'll still go for Wilder.
Deontay Wilder knows the power of Luis Ortiz as he ate some in the first fight and he was rocked badly for the first time in his career, the reason i am really impressed with Deontay Wilder is because he is really a light heavyweight fighter who weighs around just 207 pounds and fighting in heavyweight division and the power he have in his hands is impressive and considering the age of Ortiz i am going with Wilder even though the odds are not that great.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Kemarit on November 02, 2019, 10:23:03 PM
Wilder is such a great fighter, but I'm pretty sure he will not take Ortiz, for granted, he has felt his power he was almost knock out if there is a minute of that round where Wilder is in trouble, Ortiz could have finished the fight, I predict the fight will end in a knock out or stoppage because both fighters are capable of knocking out their opponents, I'll still go for Wilder.
Deontay Wilder knows the power of Luis Ortiz as he ate some in the first fight and he was rocked badly for the first time in his career, the reason i am really impressed with Deontay Wilder is because he is really a light heavyweight fighter who weighs around just 207 pounds and fighting in heavyweight division and the power he have in his hands is impressive and considering the age of Ortiz i am going with Wilder even though the odds are not that great.

Right, that power he generates from his lean frame is amazing. He really ate a lot in the first fight and didn't go down although he was really in trouble for the first time in his career. But Wilder shows his heart, he come back strong and knock down Ortiz. And as I have said, it was impressive and he did improved ever since that's why he can get the job done in this rematch again, much easier.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: fortunecrypto on November 04, 2019, 02:45:03 AM
Luis Ortiz has punching power, that is if he can connect, the way Wilder moves and how he set up his defense I doubt that he is not Ruiz who has very fast hands, Luis Ortiz picks his punches and his defense is also not good, there's going to be a knock out here definitely, but Wilder has a higher knockout probability than Ortiz.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: DarkDays on November 05, 2019, 06:03:36 PM
Because there are more big upcoming fights on this month wherein before their rematch. But you know it doesn't mean this is not an interesting fight.  Because this both legendary are very hype within the ring and it was a close fight honestly.  Both are very heavy handed .and on this rematch there's a possibility luis can knock oit wilder because if you saw the fight wilder struggling and always dizzy when luis lunching an straight job.  So this an interesting rematch also. 

If Ortiz couldn't knock Wilder out 2 years ago, why would he be able to do it now that he's 40 years old.

Didn't you see the knockout of the last fight? It was devastating, people were actually worried that Ortiz would die.

I think it's going to be much more conclusive this time, Wilder should knock him out in brutal fashion once again, but within a few rounds this time.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: mich on November 05, 2019, 06:46:18 PM
I did not know of this match but I am now glad to become aware it is occurring
From what I recall in the frist match it was all BRONZE BOMBER for the Knockout so what is to think this time it will be different
Lets hope BB wins again so we can get to see him battle the AJ-AR winner!


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Theb on November 05, 2019, 07:10:22 PM
I wonder why nobody here is discussing about the upcoming rematch fight between The Bronze Bomber and the The Real King Kong. Is this rematch battle too long overdue that there is no more hype left? Well, the day is coming near and the battle is definitely going to end with one of them lying on the canvas.

Probably because the talks are already in for the rematch of Wilder and Fury to happen in 2020, I don't know how this works but they already have a agreed fight even before their first bout will happen. Originally the match against Wilder in 2020 was meant for Dillian Whyte but he tested positive for substance abuse removing his right for a mandatory fight against Wilder. This fight against Luis Ortiz isn't really the one that fans want nor they even expect this to happen. The organization might just be treating this as a filler bout in order for Wilder to maintain his belt.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: spadormie on November 05, 2019, 07:33:12 PM
Yeah, I don't know why isn't anybody talking about this game. This could be a great fight. But, even though I think it's still a 50/50 chance because last match was a TKO at 10th, I still think that Deontay the Bronze Bomber will take this match again. And I was expecting for a TKO again this time.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: bbc.reporter on November 06, 2019, 01:28:44 AM
@spadormie. Are you certain that there will be a 50/50 chance? The odds the sportsbooks are offering is telling us another story hehehe.

Also, this fight, similar to Tyson Wilder's last fight shows how broken boxing as a sport is.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Jating on November 06, 2019, 05:59:05 AM
Yeah, I don't know why isn't anybody talking about this game. This could be a great fight. But, even though I think it's still a 50/50 chance because last match was a TKO at 10th, I still think that Deontay the Bronze Bomber will take this match again. And I was expecting for a TKO again this time.

It's because Wilder has improved after their first meeting while Ortiz was just squeezing in order to win. And the age though, Ortiz is not getting any younger, although he can still punch but we don't think that they are in the same level that's why this fight is not a 50/50 and Wilder are highly favoured to win by ko.

@bbc.reporter - this is how boxing is right now, business of making money that's why managers are carefully cherry picking to protect their boxers and milk them out.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: uray on November 06, 2019, 08:34:38 AM
Yeah, I don't know why isn't anybody talking about this game. This could be a great fight. But, even though I think it's still a 50/50 chance because last match was a TKO at 10th, I still think that Deontay the Bronze Bomber will take this match again. And I was expecting for a TKO again this time.
There is not much interest in this match up because Deontay Wilder already defeated Luis Ortiz even though Wilder took some shots that rocked him and the promoters wanted an easy fight and so is the reason they went for a rematch expecting to make a ton of money and getting in shape for the rematch against Tyson Fury. Ortiz is a tough fighter but he is 40 years old and if this match up was in his prime then we would have seen a good contest.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Baofeng on November 13, 2019, 11:19:18 PM
Current Sportsbet.io odds:

https://i.ibb.co/R3YYBsk/Screen-Shot-2019-11-14-at-7-16-18-AM.png (https://ibb.co/ZBGGYFp)

Just a small shift on the odds, Ortiz odds looks attractive, but we all know that Wilder is hitting his prime now and it's going to be very hard to win against him at this point. Not thinking of putting a bet of Wilder though, probably will just watch and see how Wilder will win (KO/TKO).


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: notblox1 on November 14, 2019, 01:18:40 AM
Current Sportsbet.io odds:

https://i.ibb.co/R3YYBsk/Screen-Shot-2019-11-14-at-7-16-18-AM.png (https://ibb.co/ZBGGYFp)

Just a small shift on the odds, Ortiz odds looks attractive, but we all know that Wilder is hitting his prime now and it's going to be very hard to win against him at this point. Not thinking of putting a bet of Wilder though, probably will just watch and see how Wilder will win (KO/TKO).

I can't wait to watch this fight! Time fly so fast...
I will probably go with live betting, or some special bet., maybe D.Wilder KO win.
I have to wait for bookies add more specials


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Darker45 on November 14, 2019, 03:51:22 AM
Current Sportsbet.io odds:

https://i.ibb.co/R3YYBsk/Screen-Shot-2019-11-14-at-7-16-18-AM.png (https://ibb.co/ZBGGYFp)

Just a small shift on the odds, Ortiz odds looks attractive, but we all know that Wilder is hitting his prime now and it's going to be very hard to win against him at this point. Not thinking of putting a bet of Wilder though, probably will just watch and see how Wilder will win (KO/TKO).

I am excited to watch the fight but not excited to place a bet either. I have great respect and admiration for Luiz Ortiz II but it seems the circumstances of the fight are in favor of Deontay. This will probably be Deontay's fight as you said. If only Ortiz II is a few years younger, this would have been a much more thrilling battle. Well, I'm looking forward to both men's performance inside the ring.   


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: LogitechMouse on November 14, 2019, 04:28:53 AM
I have watched their first match and Wilder almost knocked down on the 7th round but lucky for him he got saved by the bell and after that round it is a complete turn of events. The last 3 rounds are dominated by him and Ortiz got knocked out in the 10th round IIRC.

Now, I know that Wilder is for me the best Heavyweight right now with 41 wins with 40 of them ending with a KO but it will be a busy night for him. Ortiz is determined to give Wilder his first loss. He almost got it last year and now he will try it again.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: btc_angela on November 20, 2019, 11:44:44 AM
I have watched their first match and Wilder almost knocked down on the 7th round but lucky for him he got saved by the bell and after that round it is a complete turn of events. The last 3 rounds are dominated by him and Ortiz got knocked out in the 10th round IIRC.

That is right, that's why we are have a part II because people thinks that Ortiz will have a chance to do it again but this time, it will be a KO.

Now, I know that Wilder is for me the best Heavyweight right now with 41 wins with 40 of them ending with a KO but it will be a busy night for him. Ortiz is determined to give Wilder his first loss. He almost got it last year and now he will try it again.

But we have to think that Wilder improved a lot after their fight while Ortiz deteriorate specially that he has age a lot.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: fortunecrypto on November 20, 2019, 12:06:02 PM
I have watched their first match and Wilder almost knocked down on the 7th round but lucky for him he got saved by the bell and after that round it is a complete turn of events. The last 3 rounds are dominated by him and Ortiz got knocked out in the 10th round IIRC.

That is right, that's why we are have a part II because people thinks that Ortiz will have a chance to do it again but this time, it will be a KO.

Now, I know that Wilder is for me the best Heavyweight right now with 41 wins with 40 of them ending with a KO but it will be a busy night for him. Ortiz is determined to give Wilder his first loss. He almost got it last year and now he will try it again.

But we have to think that Wilder improved a lot after their fight while Ortiz deteriorate specially that he has age a lot.

I'll still go for Wilder, he is at the peak of his career, he will adjust he has a lot of advantages for this fight, height reach power, he as has everything he needs to beat Ortiz, and he knows that this guy can hurt him so Wilder will take all the necessary adjustment, to beat Ortiz, I will still want to see a Wilder - Joshua in the future.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Baofeng on November 20, 2019, 09:53:31 PM
Ortiz: I Wasn't Knocked Out By Wilder; Was Completely Fatigued

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“I don’t like to lose, especially in that fashion,” Ortiz said, according to a translator, while talking to a small group of reporters recently. “And to make it very clear, I wasn’t knocked out. I was completely fatigued and [dead] tired. That’s what it was, more than anything else. I would’ve preferred to get knocked out.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ortiz-i-knocked-out-by-wilder-completely-fatigued--144376

I think this is similar to Pacquiao vs Morales 2. Morales claims that he was really tired and that's why he was knockdown, but we all know that happens to their third and last fight. I think Ortiz will touch the canvass for good here and quit.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: notblox1 on November 21, 2019, 12:40:39 AM
Only few days until this fight kick-off.
Interesting thing is that Tyson Fury trainer Ben Davison will be there watching the fight.
Team Fury is getting ready ;)


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Theb on November 21, 2019, 07:07:49 PM
I have watched their first match and Wilder almost knocked down on the 7th round but lucky for him he got saved by the bell and after that round it is a complete turn of events. The last 3 rounds are dominated by him and Ortiz got knocked out in the 10th round IIRC.

Now, I know that Wilder is for me the best Heavyweight right now with 41 wins with 40 of them ending with a KO but it will be a busy night for him. Ortiz is determined to give Wilder his first loss. He almost got it last year and now he will try it again.

I have watched that round multiple times already and all I can say is that that Wilder got disoriented but what it looks to me he wasn't ready to go down for the count, he was like that for the last 40 seconds and he didn't look like Anthony Joshua wen get combo'ed by Ruiz. At the end Wilder still won the fight by TKOing him three rounds later. Maybe in the next fight I would say that Wilder wouldn't be too careless when facing Ortiz for the second time now since he already know what Ortiz can do in the ring.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Baofeng on November 22, 2019, 11:29:38 AM
Only few days until this fight kick-off.
Interesting thing is that Tyson Fury trainer Ben Davison will be there watching the fight.
Team Fury is getting ready ;)

Yeah mate, just a couple of days so let's see if Wilder can remove all the doubts and proved that he is the biggest heavyweight today. Because there are people who says that he just go lucky in round 7 that he didn't went down. That's why they second fight will put pressure on Wilder's shoulder, and with Fury's trainer watching on the sideline, I think Wilder is more "pressure" show he is the best man.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: smyslov on November 22, 2019, 04:25:15 PM
Only few days until this fight kick-off.
Interesting thing is that Tyson Fury trainer Ben Davison will be there watching the fight.
Team Fury is getting ready ;)

Yeah mate, just a couple of days so let's see if Wilder can remove all the doubts and proved that he is the biggest heavyweight today. Because there are people who says that he just go lucky in round 7 that he didn't went down. That's why they second fight will put pressure on Wilder's shoulder, and with Fury's trainer watching on the sideline, I think Wilder is more "pressure" show he is the best man.

I am more excited on the Joshua - Ruiz, fight but this Wilder Ortiz match is also a must watch fight because, there could be another upsets here and if Ruiz beat Joshua, then we have a major shake up in the heavyweight, this is something to watch out, suddenly the heavyweight
has become excited because of the entry of Andy Ruiz.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: YuginKadoya on November 22, 2019, 05:06:13 PM
A lot a not talking about boxing anymore and I think many are now preferring the martial arts fights than just boxing, I think that is the case why there is no topic about this,

With this fight, I think Ortiz II is in a real pinch here and in danger with Deontay Wilder in my opinion because of the Bronze Bomber typically is improving every time he enters the ring and in my opinion getting buff up every time he has a match and that's not all Ortiz in my opinion sometimes gets lazy with his Defense and relying in his counter and head movements I think this is an advantage to Wilder to this can be a Deontay Wilder win pretty much it is seen from the Odds (-650).


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: notblox1 on November 23, 2019, 11:20:43 AM
I am taking Wilder win by KO here.
Interesting but risky bets are also to predict winner and round range
Wilder to win from round 1-3 or 4-6

I don't see this going more than 6 rounds.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Jating on November 23, 2019, 11:54:01 AM
Final Weigh-in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc71OHR1DW4

"Grandpa" Ortiz looks fit came in light as compare to their first fight, while Wilder the same as ever, and relax. I agree that this fight won't last that long, maybe below 10 rounds for Wilder.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Darker45 on November 23, 2019, 12:52:04 PM
I am taking Wilder win by KO here.
I don't see this going more than 6 rounds.

Final Weigh-in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc71OHR1DW4

I agree that this fight won't last that long, maybe below 10 rounds for Wilder.

Yeah, it looks like it. But I honestly want an upset here, even though this hope does not come with a bet. That may be next to impossible for this Cuban grandpa to defeat the very athletic and dangerous Wilder but the weigh-in gives us a little glimpse of the shape of the two, and to be fair the grandpa does not look like 40 in there. He has weighed the lightest today than in his previous battles. If this tells us anything, I hope it means he's going to be floating a little.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: TopTort777 on November 23, 2019, 01:05:21 PM
'I'm coming for you baby... get the job done and meet me for battle': Tyson Fury warns Deontay Wilder not to slip up against Luis Ortiz (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-7712611/Tyson-Fury-warns-Deontay-Wilder-not-slip-against-Luis-Ortiz.html)

Fury is a funny guy  ;D Hope Deontay finishes Ortiz quickly and feels himself ready for next fight against Fury.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Kemarit on November 23, 2019, 01:52:28 PM
'I'm coming for you baby... get the job done and meet me for battle': Tyson Fury warns Deontay Wilder not to slip up against Luis Ortiz (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-7712611/Tyson-Fury-warns-Deontay-Wilder-not-slip-against-Luis-Ortiz.html)

Fury is a funny guy  ;D Hope Deontay finishes Ortiz quickly and feels himself ready for next fight against Fury.

That's why Fury is likeable though,  ;D

@Darker45 - definitely we wanted to see 'upset' here as we have seen in the first fight that Wilder was tested but Deontay was able to stand up in that faithful 7th round. But just imagine if Ortiz win this and then Ruiz closes up AJ for good. It will really shakeup the HW division.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: coin-investor on November 23, 2019, 02:11:57 PM
'I'm coming for you baby... get the job done and meet me for battle': Tyson Fury warns Deontay Wilder not to slip up against Luis Ortiz (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-7712611/Tyson-Fury-warns-Deontay-Wilder-not-slip-against-Luis-Ortiz.html)

Fury is a funny guy  ;D Hope Deontay finishes Ortiz quickly and feels himself ready for next fight against Fury.

That's why Fury is likeable though,  ;D

@Darker45 - definitely we wanted to see 'upset' here as we have seen in the first fight that Wilder was tested but Deontay was able to stand up in that faithful 7th round. But just imagine if Ortiz win this and then Ruiz closes up AJ for good. It will really shakeup the HW division.


Then we will have Deontay and Joshua fighting as would-be challengers for heavyweight championship and it's not going to be the main event anymore and both fighters will fight with a much smaller prize since both are not champions anymore, and the heavyweight division would be very interesting, as two former great champions relegated to being challengers.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: notblox1 on November 23, 2019, 08:09:20 PM
I think there is no chance to see upset in this fight.
Only miracle and bad day of Deontey Wilder can result in hos defeat in this fight


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Zicadis on November 23, 2019, 08:21:36 PM
I personally think that Wilder will knock Ortiz out within 3 rounds, I'm probably going to put a bet on it since it's practically certain.

He knocked him out in the 11th round before in devastating fashion, this time will likely be even worse, since Ortiz is 40 years old now.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Baofeng on November 23, 2019, 11:06:07 PM
Final Weigh-in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc71OHR1DW4

"Grandpa" Ortiz looks fit came in light as compare to their first fight, while Wilder the same as ever, and relax. I agree that this fight won't last that long, maybe below 10 rounds for Wilder.

Wilder is relax because there's no animosity between the two. Deontay even said that he gave Ortiz a rematch because he wanted to give him 'money'. It's also interesting to hear this, Wilder confirmed that he had flu on the first fight, that's why his sluggish performance specially in round 7.

Quote
"I'm looking to beat Ortiz in even more dramatic fashion. When we fought the first time, I had a bad flu. I could have called off the fight but I want to be able to do things that other fighters shouldn't or wouldn't do," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-im-only-one-top-5-give-luis-ortiz-opportunity--144353


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: bisdak40 on November 23, 2019, 11:13:29 PM
I personally think that Wilder will knock Ortiz out within 3 rounds, I'm probably going to put a bet on it since it's practically certain.

He knocked him out in the 11th round before in devastating fashion, this time will likely be even worse, since Ortiz is 40 years old now.

I am not inclined that it would happen in the first few rounds but i think it would happen above the sixth round. I'm placing some bet for Wilder here because i am hoping for a Wilder vs AJ fight  :).


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Darker45 on November 24, 2019, 02:27:32 AM
'I'm coming for you baby... get the job done and meet me for battle': Tyson Fury warns Deontay Wilder not to slip up against Luis Ortiz (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-7712611/Tyson-Fury-warns-Deontay-Wilder-not-slip-against-Luis-Ortiz.html)

Fury is a funny guy  ;D Hope Deontay finishes Ortiz quickly and feels himself ready for next fight against Fury.

That's why Fury is likeable though,  ;D

@Darker45 - definitely we wanted to see 'upset' here as we have seen in the first fight that Wilder was tested but Deontay was able to stand up in that faithful 7th round. But just imagine if Ortiz win this and then Ruiz closes up AJ for good. It will really shakeup the HW division.


Fury is one very nice giant. Despite his nickname and furious face and physique the man has a good heart, and a whole lot of sense of humor.

Anyway, isn't it more interesting when the prey is eating up the predator instead? I have the penchant to appreciate an upset more than the expected outcome especially if the fight is highly a lop-sided one, which this fight is as probably viewed by many despite their records. The majority of the boxing fans are after all only looking forward to the battle after this. If this old man here will give an upset, everything planned will be entirely shaken up and revisited.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: aioc on November 24, 2019, 05:41:33 AM
Like everybody is expected wilder knock Ortiz out and it was on the seventh round, Ortiz was actually winning the fight until that right punch,
The fight was quite boring heading to the seventh round, and Ortiz caught Wilder with a big punch but Wilder only need one punch to finish the fight.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: bestcoins1 on November 24, 2019, 06:20:35 AM
Like everybody is expected wilder knock Ortiz out and it was on the seventh round, Ortiz was actually winning the fight until that right punch,
The fight was quite boring heading to the seventh round, and Ortiz caught Wilder with a big punch but Wilder only need one punch to finish the fight.
One blow "BOOOMSQUAD" in round 7 ends this fight!
in the previous round, Ortiz looked so convincing in this match, but that one blow changed everything. maybe the age factor plays a role here, is it the time for Ortiz to retire?


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: notblox1 on November 24, 2019, 07:20:06 AM
Deontey Wilder wins in seventh round with one of his devastated knockouts.
I was thinking he will do the job eariler and easier, but this was not one of his best performance.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: BChydro on November 24, 2019, 07:35:19 AM
Fury is a funny guy  ;D Hope Deontay finishes Ortiz quickly and feels himself ready for next fight against Fury.
Tyson Fury is the best entertainer in boxing after a long time, we had some flamboyant boxers in the past and he is the refreshing fighter boxing needs to attract new fans and so is the reason he is even invited in the WWE to perform and entertain the fans.

When it comes to the fight Deontay Wilder just smoked Luis Ortiz in the seventh round and now the rematch between Tyson and Wilder will take place.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: coin-investor on November 24, 2019, 08:48:25 AM
Like everybody is expected wilder knock Ortiz out and it was on the seventh round, Ortiz was actually winning the fight until that right punch,
The fight was quite boring heading to the seventh round, and Ortiz caught Wilder with a big punch but Wilder only need one punch to finish the fight.
One blow "BOOOMSQUAD" in round 7 ends this fight!
in the previous round, Ortiz looked so convincing in this match, but that one blow changed everything. maybe the age factor plays a role here, is it the time for Ortiz to retire?

He should be, I just knew it's a matter of time, Wilder is looking for an opening for the whole fight because he knows he has knocked this guy out and he can do it the second time, and on the seventh round just as Ortiz is gaining momentum he was caught by a straight punch.
You cannot really underestimate a guy with a power punch, because he will released it anytime and what a good timing


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: virasog on November 24, 2019, 09:13:48 AM
Deontey Wilder wins in seventh round with one of his devastated knockouts.
I was thinking he will do the job eariler and easier, but this was not one of his best performance.

Wider was always expected to win but Luis Ortiz took the match till the 7th round is an amazing performance by him. More exciting news is that Deontey Wilder confirms that his next fight will be against Tyson in February. Seeing this match performance, I think Tyson will be feeling the heat to for the upcoming match with the man in form.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Baofeng on November 24, 2019, 09:32:32 AM
What a way for Wilder to win the rematch, Ortiz was getting comfortable as the round progresses and I seriously thought that he is leading in the score in the judges card. Wilder didn't let his hands go until the 5th. Sad to see Ortiz lost this fight like that because it was just 2-3 seconds before the end of the round 7 when he was caught and laid down in the canvass and didn't know what happened.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: bestcoins1 on November 24, 2019, 09:43:13 AM
Like everybody is expected wilder knock Ortiz out and it was on the seventh round, Ortiz was actually winning the fight until that right punch,
The fight was quite boring heading to the seventh round, and Ortiz caught Wilder with a big punch but Wilder only need one punch to finish the fight.
One blow "BOOOMSQUAD" in round 7 ends this fight!
in the previous round, Ortiz looked so convincing in this match, but that one blow changed everything. maybe the age factor plays a role here, is it the time for Ortiz to retire?

He should be, I just knew it's a matter of time, Wilder is looking for an opening for the whole fight because he knows he has knocked this guy out and he can do it the second time, and on the seventh round just as Ortiz is gaining momentum he was caught by a straight punch.
You cannot really underestimate a guy with a power punch, because he will released it anytime and what a good timing
I know that Wilder punch has powerfull strength. It is true like you said that Wilder was just waiting for the right momentum when Ortiz's defense opened slightly. and it's very regrettable for Ortiz because he KO's when the round 7 leaving only a few seconds before the round ends


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: JohnBitCo on November 24, 2019, 09:44:00 AM
https://i.imgur.com/16U1WUX.png


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: LogitechMouse on November 24, 2019, 10:05:20 AM
Like everybody is expected wilder knock Ortiz out and it was on the seventh round, Ortiz was actually winning the fight until that right punch,
The fight was quite boring heading to the seventh round, and Ortiz caught Wilder with a big punch but Wilder only need one punch to finish the fight.
I like how Wilder is patiently waiting for the perfect timing to launch his signature right hook. Ortiz is the aggressive through the first 6 rounds but that one shot changed everything.

Everybody maybe expected this to happen already since we know how strong Wilder is. Now that the fight is over, I will wait for the Fury-Wilder the 2nd chapter in the future :D.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: notblox1 on November 24, 2019, 10:18:23 AM
I can't wait for next fight Deontey Wilder - Tyson Fury.
Started my preparations.  ;D

For anyone who missed last Wilder-Ortiz fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a8whCGQ2lI


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 24, 2019, 11:28:39 AM
I can't wait for next fight Deontey Wilder - Tyson Fury.
Started my preparations.  ;D

For anyone who missed last Wilder-Ortiz fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a8whCGQ2lI

Ok everything is set now, no upset whatsoever but Wilder started very slow in this fight and let Ortiz dictate the tempo, but I'm not sure if he is doing it intentionally so that Ortiz will be relax and then he will go for the killer KO. Which eventually happened before the end of the seventh round. And I think his chin is tested here, because he was hit in the fourth with left but he didn't moved. Good win for Wilder!


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: TopTort777 on November 24, 2019, 11:31:18 AM
I can't wait for next fight Deontey Wilder - Tyson Fury.
Started my preparations.  ;D


Do these two already agreed to fight?


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Darker45 on November 24, 2019, 12:36:59 PM
I can't wait for next fight Deontey Wilder - Tyson Fury.
Started my preparations.  ;D

For anyone who missed last Wilder-Ortiz fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a8whCGQ2lI

Ok everything is set now, no upset whatsoever but Wilder started very slow in this fight and let Ortiz dictate the tempo, but I'm not sure if he is doing it intentionally so that Ortiz will be relax and then he will go for the killer KO. Which eventually happened before the end of the seventh round. And I think his chin is tested here, because he was hit in the fourth with left but he didn't moved. Good win for Wilder!

The upset didn't happen. Although it was certainly upsetting for Ortiz to end up devastated in the last few seconds of that decisive round 7 after dominating the earlier rounds. The 7th round end bell didn't come at all at Ortiz's rescue, much unlike in their first battle when the 7th end bell was Wilder's rescuer.

Well, what can I say, Wilder truly deserves the win! The gavel was always on his right hand. It was only a matter of time before it will hit Ortiz and concludes everything.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: JohnBitCo on November 24, 2019, 01:16:43 PM
I can't wait for next fight Deontey Wilder - Tyson Fury.
Started my preparations.  ;D


Do these two already agreed to fight?

Yes, Deontay Wilder announced this today after his win. He confirmed the rematch between him and Tyson Fury most probably in February next year.
Quote
“Next we have Tyson Fury in the rematch,” Wilder said. “Then I want unification. I want one champion, one face and one heavyweight champion – Deontay Wilder.”


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: btc_angela on November 24, 2019, 10:49:39 PM
I can't wait for next fight Deontey Wilder - Tyson Fury.
Started my preparations.  ;D


Do these two already agreed to fight?

As far as I know they have been in a "verbal agreement" after the the first to have a rematch. And then they went on a their separate way to have a tune up match which both of them won. So everything now is perfect. And we might see the fight early next year. Ortiz is blaming the referee for the quick 10 count. But I doubt that he will last that long against Wilder and could get hurt in the succeeding rounds. And it also says that Ortiz is leading in all scorecards, (59-55, 59-55, 58-56).


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: bbc.reporter on November 25, 2019, 04:27:07 AM
@btc_angela. A verbal agreement is not as good anymore. It will take many more months of negotiations before they can honor their verbal agreement to fight as early as 2021 hehehe.

In any case, the skeptical me thinks that Deontay Wilder bet on the over 6.5 and waited for the 7th round to knock out Ortiz hehehehehe.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: stadus on November 25, 2019, 05:24:30 AM
Yes, Deontay Wilder announced this today after his win. He confirmed the rematch between him and Tyson Fury most probably in February next year.
Quote
“Next we have Tyson Fury in the rematch,” Wilder said. “Then I want unification. I want one champion, one face and one heavyweight champion – Deontay Wilder.”

This is the fight that I like, hopefully Tyson Fury will win in the rematch so there would be a trilogy for this fight.

BTW, congratulations to Wilder for winning the fight against Ortiz, that one punch changes everything, if that goes into decision, Ortiz might have a chance of winning but he wasn't careful and maybe forget about the power of Wilder.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: mu_enrico on November 25, 2019, 06:10:36 AM
Ortiz is blaming the referee for the quick 10 count. But I doubt that he will last that long against Wilder and could get hurt in the succeeding rounds.
Is this a joke mate? You saw the "shock wave" right? All the sweats got removed from Ortiz head.
Pretty much like https://youtu.be/X0HYSgNYNpI?t=214

No chance Ortiz would recover from that kind of blow. I'm not a Wilder fan, but I admit that he can punch really hard though.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Kemarit on November 25, 2019, 07:22:47 AM
I can't wait for next fight Deontey Wilder - Tyson Fury.
Started my preparations.  ;D

For anyone who missed last Wilder-Ortiz fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a8whCGQ2lI

Ok everything is set now, no upset whatsoever but Wilder started very slow in this fight and let Ortiz dictate the tempo, but I'm not sure if he is doing it intentionally so that Ortiz will be relax and then he will go for the killer KO. Which eventually happened before the end of the seventh round. And I think his chin is tested here, because he was hit in the fourth with left but he didn't moved. Good win for Wilder!

The upset didn't happen. Although it was certainly upsetting for Ortiz to end up devastated in the last few seconds of that decisive round 7 after dominating the earlier rounds. The 7th round end bell didn't come at all at Ortiz's rescue, much unlike in their first battle when the 7th end bell was Wilder's rescuer.

Well, what can I say, Wilder truly deserves the win! The gavel was always on his right hand. It was only a matter of time before it will hit Ortiz and concludes everything.

Exactly, we have been talking about upset here, however, we all know that the chance are slim so let's get credit to Ortiz for fighting his fight, however, Wilder is on a different level here. Yes, he could be behind the judges scorecard. But he knows that he really need one shot that will change the game.

Yes, Wilder truly deserves to win him, Ortiz could still fight though to get some paycheck. But he is not in the level of the elite heavyweights of today, Wilder and Fury. So let Wilder and Fury settle once and for all who is the greatest today and I'm sure it could break records in attendance and PPV numbers.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Questat on November 25, 2019, 12:27:37 PM
Ortiz is blaming the referee for the quick 10 count. But I doubt that he will last that long against Wilder and could get hurt in the succeeding rounds.
Is this a joke mate? You saw the "shock wave" right? All the sweats got removed from Ortiz head.
Pretty much like https://youtu.be/X0HYSgNYNpI?t=214

No chance Ortiz would recover from that kind of blow. I'm not a Wilder fan, but I admit that he can punch really hard though.

Honestly I also noticed that quick count, and who knows if Ortiz can recover after that, it could be like Manny's knocking down Thurman but he got up and survive the fight and loss only in a split decision. These are big fighters, refs should not count fast as it will be hard to get up with that big body of ortiz ;D


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: YuginKadoya on November 25, 2019, 01:10:11 PM
Respect for Deontay Wilder for his sportsmanship and respecting Luis Ortiz that have lost, and for this scenario, I am sure saluting Wilder for his sportsmanship and respect he shown to Luis Ortiz and saying that they can sure do it again in a rematch, Actually for all the jab that I have seen that one punch from Wilder was a devastating thing for Luis Ortiz you can definitely see the power in it that the referee has seen a wobbled Ortiz after the knock out that have decided for the referee to stop the match. Congrats to Deontay Wilder a really cool dude in my opinion.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on November 25, 2019, 02:21:21 PM
Big Deontay isn’t called the Bronze Bomber for nothing, what a knockout blow that guy possesses. Who’s next, Fury II or the winner of Ruiz vs Joshua?


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: narcopop on November 25, 2019, 03:04:53 PM
Big Deontay isn’t called the Bronze Bomber for nothing, what a knockout blow that guy possesses. Who’s next, Fury II or the winner of Ruiz vs Joshua?

I have a problem with Deontay. I understand his fans and haters at the same time. He's very inconsistent for almost the whole match just to turn on the pure steal for couple of seconds. And it's the purest steal in present boxing world.

Not the world champion we deserve but the one we need.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: yoseph on November 25, 2019, 03:23:45 PM
Ortiz is blaming the referee for the quick 10 count. But I doubt that he will last that long against Wilder and could get hurt in the succeeding rounds.
Is this a joke mate? You saw the "shock wave" right? All the sweats got removed from Ortiz head.
Pretty much like https://youtu.be/X0HYSgNYNpI?t=214

No chance Ortiz would recover from that kind of blow. I'm not a Wilder fan, but I admit that he can punch really hard though.

Honestly I also noticed that quick count, and who knows if Ortiz can recover after that, it could be like Manny's knocking down Thurman but he got up and survive the fight and loss only in a split decision. These are big fighters, refs should not count fast as it will be hard to get up with that big body of ortiz ;D
I was re-watching the fight today and I saw that prior to Deontay Wilder knocking out Luis Ortiz,  Oritz actually managed to get some punches in against Wilder and that made Wilder a little bit dazed and this was just 30 or so seconds before the knockout. I salute Wilder for being able to stand and subsequently deliver the knock out punch that ended the game.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: royalfestus on November 25, 2019, 04:30:46 PM
Yes, Deontay Wilder announced this today after his win. He confirmed the rematch between him and Tyson Fury most probably in February next year.
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“Next we have Tyson Fury in the rematch,” Wilder said. “Then I want unification. I want one champion, one face and one heavyweight champion – Deontay Wilder.”

This is the fight that I like, hopefully Tyson Fury will win in the rematch so there would be a trilogy for this fight.

BTW, congratulations to Wilder for winning the fight against Ortiz, that one punch changes everything, if that goes into decision, Ortiz might have a chance of winning but he wasn't careful and maybe forget about the power of Wilder.
Fury is a very tough challenge for Wilder and I wish he can manage his emotion well after the win. Fury is good with a lot of things, most especially before he hits the ring , he knows how to put fear in his opponents. Most of his opponents loses before the fight because of the fear more so he is strong technically and physically. Since he won the previous, I will rather advice him to avoid the fight, he is proving nothing with most of these rematch, while he can go for new opponents.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: btc_angela on November 25, 2019, 10:20:05 PM
Ortiz is blaming the referee for the quick 10 count. But I doubt that he will last that long against Wilder and could get hurt in the succeeding rounds.
Is this a joke mate? You saw the "shock wave" right? All the sweats got removed from Ortiz head.
Pretty much like https://youtu.be/X0HYSgNYNpI?t=214

No chance Ortiz would recover from that kind of blow. I'm not a Wilder fan, but I admit that he can punch really hard though.

That is according to Ortiz mate, fighters most of the time doesn't want to admit the way they lost in the fight. And that's why I said that he won't last that long against Deontay in the succeeding rounds.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: GreatArkansas on November 26, 2019, 02:54:41 AM
Boxing records update for these two great boxers;

https://i.imgflip.com/3hk54y.jpghttps://i.imgflip.com/3hk57c.jpg
Height and reach are totally in favor for the undefeated boxer; Deontay Wilder. Wilder has incredible records especially the knock outs record which 41knockouts in 42wins in 43games, lol. Only 2 knockouts is behind on his total games on his professional boxing career.
Wilder also much younger compare to Ortiz, but for me age doesn't matter. Ortiz will fight for sure, this is exciting game.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Fundamentals Of on November 26, 2019, 03:02:12 AM
Boxing records update for these two great boxers;

https://i.imgflip.com/3hk54y.jpghttps://i.imgflip.com/3hk57c.jpg
Height and reach are totally in favor for the undefeated boxer; Deontay Wilder. Wilder has incredible records especially the knock outs record which 41knockouts in 42wins in 43games, lol. Only 2 knockouts is behind on his total games on his professional boxing career.
Wilder also much younger compare to Ortiz, but for me age doesn't matter. Ortiz will fight for sure, this is exciting game.

This bout has already ended. Lol. This topic should be locked already to avoid posters that have not really monitored this fight. There is no more excitement because the excitement has already ended yesterday when Wilder knocked out Ortiz in the 7th round of their match. Your analysis and statistics came a bit late, mate. You must have not taken note of the date of the fight, the posts right above you, and the result itself.


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Ziskinberg on November 26, 2019, 04:37:47 AM
This topic should be locked already to avoid posters that have not really monitored this fight

Indeed, I agree with that, OP is still active so maybe he can read our comment and lock the thread or you can message him.

It was a great fight but it was already over, maybe we will have an speculative discussion on Wilder vs Fury 2?

@Darker45, maybe you can create a thread pertaining to the above?


Title: Re: Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz II
Post by: Darker45 on November 26, 2019, 09:34:03 AM
I am locking this thread now because the match has already taken place and the winner has been proclaimed. Wilder has proven for the 10th time that the title is his, sharing the feat with the legendary Muhammad Ali. On to his next battle!

I'm also locking this thread to avoid further discussions, unnecessary spams especially. For discussions on the upcoming Wilder vs Fury II, please refer to this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204565.0. Thanks!