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Title: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Bightening on November 06, 2019, 07:38:02 AM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.

 I already posted on a different forum, so I’ll be quoting the post here so I don’t get tagged for copypasta. (https://cryptotalk.org/topic/19007-risk-in-using-trading-signals/)

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Most traders after a series of loses in the first few months of trading would go in search of trading signals from so called Professionals. This thread is to point out flaws in this trading option, and reasons why you should learn to trade yourself.
 

First, What’s a Trading signal?

Trade signals (trading calls) are a set of instructions you receive in real time that contains details of cryptocurrency to buy, what price to buy it at, the targets to sell it at and most importantly the correct stop loss to ensure minimum loss if the trade goes wrong.
 

But there’s always a BUT!


1. When using a trading signal, you have no idea how these signals were generated. If it actually came from a professional or just some random bot. It takes confidence to make a successful trade, and without confidence in the signal, there’s a high chance you’ll be losing.
 

This brings us to the next BUT
 

2. To ensure the trading signal comes from an experienced professional, people pay heavily for these signals. But even if these signals were right, the amount of profit made from these trades are small amounts compared to the amount you pay for the signals. You’ll have to trade using huge trading Capital to cover the cost of a the trading signal.
Does this sound familiar? Yes. Gambling. You’ll might get more chances Gambling than trading with these signals.
 

3. So, some traders (especially newbies) would prefer to trade using a free trading signal. But there’re no actually no free signals. They come at a cost. People who give these signals are paid by the project team, exchange or paid by large whales who want to dump their tokens.
You buy their dumped tokens and you’re left with no one to buy at the stop loss price.
 

4. The cryptocurrency market is very volatile. Profits could go as high as 400% in a few hours and dump to as low as 400% in few hours. Bitcoin, (the most traded cryptocurrency with a market dominance of over 60%) has risen by more than 5% in 24 hours, and up to 1,824% in less than 8 months. Same goes for its fall.

 

 These are just a few risks with trading signals. It’s important to note, that I don’t condemn the use of trading signals. There’re quite a good number of trading signals, but these are few. And you could never tell the difference. It’s worth much better to

- Take responsibility by making decisions yourself.
- Learn Risk Management Skills.
- Understand the process of cryptocurrency trading.
- Build your Trading Career.
 

Trading is more than just a signal, it’s a career. So you have to build it.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: JeromeTash on November 06, 2019, 08:14:12 AM
I keep telling people that there is no easy money. You have to learn and the trade for yourself. Trade signals;
- Can be used to Scam you by paying for "premium signals" which are even non-existent
- Can make you lose a ton of money when you have 100% confidence in them and yet the market decided to go in the different direction
- Can be used to make you buy shitcoins and you become a shitcoin bag holder while the architects' sell orders get filled bu you.
- Can be used to make you participate in a pump and dump scheme unknowingly.

It's lazy people who don't want to learn how to trade who usually fall for trade signal scams.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: anog on November 06, 2019, 08:35:13 AM
We must have this 'in the world of crypto, never trust anyone'.

Well I always realize that this activity does not make sense where the trade signals only we want to buy to pump and of course this service provider has bought before us, and this will look convincing when a project has the latest news for them to use as a form of bidding well.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: TheUltraElite on November 06, 2019, 08:53:26 AM
Here are a few things about "signals":

1. The owners of the signals group pumps a shitcoin to make the braindead followers buy that coin, while they sell their shitcoin. So the owner profits while the members end up with that shitcoin on their bags. Essentially dumping some coin to get profit. A legal scam.

2. The owner will promote those shitcoins to keep the members mindset to "this coin is good" so they buy it as soon as the "signal" comes in.

3. The owner will also sell the membership to get some 200$ per every member/month - this also is a hug profit for them.

So with all these in mind would you still follow these scam groups or rather do TA on your own and trade at your own risk?


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Subbir on November 06, 2019, 08:56:25 AM
I keep telling people that there is no easy money. You have to learn and the trade for yourself. Trade signals;
- Can be used to Scam you by paying for "premium signals" which are even non-existent
- Can make you lose a ton of money when you have 100% confidence in them and yet the market decided to go in the different direction
- Can be used to make you buy shitcoins and you become a shitcoin bag holder while the architects' sell orders get filled bu you.
- Can be used to make you participate in a pump and dump scheme unknowingly.

It's lazy people who don't want to learn how to trade who usually fall for trade signal scams.
JeromeTash You Right,
Don't like to buy "premium signals" premium signal 50-70% percent no guaranty  current result hence thousands of signal group fully scammer better learning from trader minimum have 5-6 years journey in trading, You have to have the skills to understand If you do not learn anything at all then you will lose many without understanding.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: acdc on November 06, 2019, 10:50:58 AM
I myself never trusted the so-called trading signals. If anyone has the correct trading signal he just needs to use it to make money instead of selling it to others.
Most people who want to sell trading signals are scammers, they are trying to trick new people into this market.
If we want to make a profit on this market, we should try to learn and learn from our experience. Never decide to invest based on anyone's advice.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Annisa_crypto on November 06, 2019, 11:05:47 AM
Since the market changes every time with great speed and different strategy so traders are following all the criteria while they are trading. Trade signals are used to buy and sell triggers. There are so many criteria where traders can create trade signals. So do your own analysis about any type of signal or any inputs about the particular signal then get into it.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: bitmover on November 06, 2019, 11:20:11 AM
I know people who made money on those schemes. However, they are very risky and most  people don't make any money. Quite the opposite, they lose.

And those who make money make a small 3-5% and sell.

There is no easy money or quick rich scheme without risks. And they aren't worth, most of time.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: GreatArkansas on November 06, 2019, 11:33:08 AM
I have tried to subscribed before to some trading Signals especially in margin trading signals. The risk is still there, and I don't think joining on those kind of paid or non paid trading signals has no good effects on you.
As long you are learning or validating their signals or chart provided, that is okay, additional learning. But when totally copy their trades or buy/sell on what they told without validating or learning is not so okay for me.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Darooghe on November 06, 2019, 01:14:57 PM
You'd never suggest a new trader to watch signals. The basic logic to the scam part is just assessment of their business model; if the signals worked why put the effort into selling them when you already have an easier way to make money.

However, If they are free, I don't care. I might actually join them, because I have nothing to lose since, I can just make my own analysis and evaluate the signal and it gives me things to analyse and know what better traders look for. If they are paid, then alarms are ringed. I am not giving my money away unless the one running the group is a proven profitable trader. Even then, I would still have doubts. What if he suddenly stops? It's not like these things are regulated the same way large companies are. So as long as you know what you are doing and do your own analysis instead of following signals blindly, and if you don't mind what you are paying for, go for it.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: ChrisPop on November 06, 2019, 01:44:47 PM
I have used to follow signals from other trader a couple of years ago, but I have learnt that it is waste of time and money. Most of them are just analysts, not traders. They don't have any skin in the game and might have hidden interests like to create liquidity for their orders or their bags. Don't recommend that at all.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: sarmrakib on November 06, 2019, 02:08:03 PM
Trading is not an easy things to do. Its much easy to lo lose  money here but have a great chance to earn as well . I think it always a bad decision to follow the signal from someone or any group .You can't afford to lose money by someone call .We have to learn first and make study always on market .It will give a great knowledge to us .We have to learn from our each and every mistake .So i always suggest not to follow signal .


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: LouVandetta on November 06, 2019, 02:21:25 PM
Don't you ever believe trading signals. Especially the one that has paid premium signals. It's mostly only a mere speculation. It's more risky since we're just following other people's words. Worst of all if one signals could make you lose all of your money. That kinda people needs you to buy so their sell order got filled, that's as far as I know.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: electronicash on November 06, 2019, 02:21:42 PM
Trading is not an easy things to do. Its much easy to lo lose  money here but have a great chance to earn as well . I think it always a bad decision to follow the signal from someone or any group .You can't afford to lose money by someone call .We have to learn first and make study always on market .It will give a great knowledge to us .We have to learn from our each and every mistake .So i always suggest not to follow signal .

there are traders who started to learn trading with altcoins. specially the altcoins paired with usdt, they are best to practice with and you can do it with the very few bucks you have like $200. its almost the same thing with btc/usdt all you need to learn is which indicator are you comfortable using with. just about 2 or 3 indicators you know how to use i think is enough for you to see where the market is going at particular time frame. once you already know, you wouldn't be joining that telegram group providing signals.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Shasha80 on November 06, 2019, 02:21:53 PM
It is very dangerous to follow trading signals, both free trading signals and paid premium trading signals. Because I was
once a victim of trading signals, by following the pump and dump signals, my capital was finally used up. Indeed, we better
learn for ourselves trading strategies and analyze the market itself, so we better understand how read the market. That way
we can only make a profit. With trading signals we will not learn anything and won't get anything. because we don't understand
anything. So my advice is to avoid trading signals if you want to get one profit from trading.
  


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: kanayaTabitha on November 06, 2019, 02:37:51 PM
Don't you ever believe trading signals. Especially the one that has paid premium signals. It's mostly only a mere speculation. It's more risky since we're just following other people's words. Worst of all if one signals could make you lose all of your money. That kinda people needs you to buy so their sell order got filled, that's as far as I know.

Yeah if they really good at trading they won't need to make money from paid trading signals, i don't understand to the people who want to pay trading signals, did they think the signal makers is really good ? if they're really good why they're making a bussiness of trading signals instead they're just make money from tradings.
Even they can make a lot make senses analysis, all of those trades are still speculation because the crypto price movement is not enough to predict with only technical analysis


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: hv_ on November 06, 2019, 02:43:12 PM
No signal or anything else can predict the future

The future is at risk at any time for anyone


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Hamphser on November 06, 2019, 02:45:35 PM
Don't you ever believe trading signals. Especially the one that has paid premium signals. It's mostly only a mere speculation. It's more risky since we're just following other people's words. Worst of all if one signals could make you lose all of your money. That kinda people needs you to buy so their sell order got filled, that's as far as I know.
Most of these trading signals are a scam and you can't even find a legitimate one nowadays. It's better to learn trading on your own than trusting those signals which is not gonna help you to get some profit but instead they profited from you. Don't get fooled by those trading advertisement from any social platforms it might be too late to realize that you have been scammed.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: dimonstration on November 06, 2019, 02:46:38 PM
It is very dangerous to follow trading signals, both free trading signals and paid premium trading signals. Because I was
once a victim of trading signals, by following the pump and dump signals, my capital was finally used up. Indeed, we better
learn for ourselves trading strategies and analyze the market itself, so we better understand how read the market. That way
we can only make a profit. With trading signals we will not learn anything and won't get anything. because we don't understand
anything. So my advice is to avoid trading signals if you want to get one profit from trading.
  
learn from experience indeed, I also once follow signal in my newbie days till I realize I should just read news and analyze the charts for my own sake. I just sometimes ask with some friends if I'm targeting a new coin or new in my eye if they have tried trading that coin, sometimes it's good to explore also and test our ability to adopt in market volatility and discover what may happen, than expect on trading signals to happen apparently won't never happen.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: andycarrol on November 06, 2019, 02:47:49 PM
It is very dangerous to follow trading signals, both free trading signals and paid premium trading signals. Because I was
once a victim of trading signals, by following the pump and dump signals, my capital was finally used up. Indeed, we better
learn for ourselves trading strategies and analyze the market itself, so we better understand how read the market. That way
we can only make a profit. With trading signals we will not learn anything and won't get anything. because we don't understand
anything. So my advice is to avoid trading signals if you want to get one profit from trading.
  

it's true and I have been joining paid premium trading signals for 6 months, but it didn't end well for my profit. how can I follow their signals when prices have risen 10% before I buy, it only profits them.
better or at least have friends who are good enough in trading so we can discuss it with him.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: tambok on November 06, 2019, 03:17:24 PM
I keep telling people that there is no easy money. You have to learn and the trade for yourself. Trade signals;
- Can be used to Scam you by paying for "premium signals" which are even non-existent
- Can make you lose a ton of money when you have 100% confidence in them and yet the market decided to go in the different direction
- Can be used to make you buy shitcoins and you become a shitcoin bag holder while the architects' sell orders get filled bu you.
- Can be used to make you participate in a pump and dump scheme unknowingly.

It's lazy people who don't want to learn how to trade who usually fall for trade signal scams.

Absolutely, what people don't realize is that paid signals or even free signals are just using you for them to make profit a lot, this is their usual strategy, most of them are just using people, before they are making signal, they are making entry first, then they are making signals above what their entry is or vice versa, when the buying power has risen, they will sell it. So, let's not rely on them, they are just manipulating the mind of people.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: teosanru on November 06, 2019, 03:37:12 PM
Trading Signals is nothing but just a myth created by top notch scammers who know how to manipulate with emotions of small traders. Signals are nothing but just false alerts created using pump and dump most of the times. First scam is how these groups manipulate their results. They would always give you signal after the CMP has already risen from that point and will tell you to sell at a certain point and SL at a certain point. Now if the trade goes a little bit in profit yet far from sell point and you didn't exit because you weren't given a signal and the trade goes on to hit the SL. Signal group will still claim profit because the price went a bit up and hence it was profitable. Moreover premium signal is the biggest myth. It's like premium users get the chance to be fooled earlier. There are only around 0.5% original trading groups but all of them there are traders who know how to interpret every call. There isn't any easy money in trading I have not even heard a single person earning money from signals.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: d3nz on November 06, 2019, 03:39:56 PM
I think joining a trading signals can put your money in risk and you will loose it in just a matter of tims if you have fallen on some traps and this kind of scheme really benefits the one who made the group of trading signal since you will just need to follow their rules and asking you to keep buying while they are earning.

That's why its not recommended to join this kind scheme and you can learn trading by studying it correctly and you can set a signal on yourself to traide in time.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: iamsange on November 06, 2019, 03:55:04 PM
Easy to say, when someone already rely on trading signal, although it is premium signal or maybe free signals. He will always rely on it. And then when something unpredicted happen, you can't do anything to fix it. Simple thing that people must know. Because trading is not only to look profit, but to learn how to be good traders. If keep rely on signal, you wouldn't learn anything from it except buy and sell.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Obito on November 07, 2019, 01:13:52 AM
No need to take trading signals if you are aware enough of the possibilities though the probability of your preciseness in real time is pretty much lower. But you'll have to pay no more with these bots or humans notifying signals. You could do alot on your own besides many traders out there has been successful without these automated signals coming from bots or humans. Activeness, and Discipline to everything you do is enough.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: danherbias07 on November 07, 2019, 08:57:08 AM
How can you tell if the person is a professional.
I read it after the "but" word.
I don't think there is literally a professional within the trading platform of cryptocurrencies.
All those signals just came from their technical view which could be wrong for many times.

You are risking your money already here and you are risking more by believing someone else.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: imstillthebest on November 07, 2019, 09:12:06 AM
trading is not about signals because i believe that signals can not guide traders accurately  because if it is then all traders are are succesful or rich now  .

the risk of using trading signals is that you can loose your money from the fake premium singals that promise you to earn huge income but even free signals can also become a trick for the traders to buy a wrong coin or to trade at the wrong time  .


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: d3nz on November 07, 2019, 09:37:05 AM
I joined a trading signals before and i would say that it is a luck if you have bought in cheap and sold it to someone who is part of the group and its like a ponzi scheme. So i would not recommend to join this scheme because you might just lost your money.

And they manipulate people by providing screenshot of their members winning but they are the one whose really winning and making money.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: jakoylantern on November 07, 2019, 11:24:58 AM
For me, yes, there is a risk of using trading signals. For me, trading signals can only help you at the beginning, especially if you are newcomers in trading that want to have an experience. But you need to learn and gain some knowledge about trading, don't rely too much on signals because at the end of the day you will be trap depending too much on trading signals. Learning on your own mistakes and experience is still the best. :)


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Andrews193 on November 07, 2019, 12:21:04 PM
I joined a trading signals before and i would say that it is a luck if you have bought in cheap and sold it to someone who is part of the group and its like a ponzi scheme. So i would not recommend to join this scheme because you might just lost your money.

And they manipulate people by providing screenshot of their members winning but they are the one whose really winning and making money.
I do not deny that some signal groups are cheating on others with the plan that you said, first, they will provide pictures of profits from people who have sent and participatedbut the fact is that this source of information comes only from one side, we can actually be very dangerous if we believe in such vague information, losing money on participation fees is a small risk, a bigger risk can be tied to a dump and pump plan. However, some signal groups are created for a good purpose, we should try to feel in each signal that we receive, do not let a few mistakes and judge them.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: conex on November 07, 2019, 12:45:52 PM
I keep telling people that there is no easy money. You have to learn and the trade for yourself. Trade signals;
- Can be used to Scam you by paying for "premium signals" which are even non-existent
- Can make you lose a ton of money when you have 100% confidence in them and yet the market decided to go in the different direction
- Can be used to make you buy shitcoins and you become a shitcoin bag holder while the architects' sell orders get filled bu you.
- Can be used to make you participate in a pump and dump scheme unknowingly.

It's lazy people who don't want to learn how to trade who usually fall for trade signal scams.
No such thing as easy money, correct!  :) :) :)


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Innocant on November 07, 2019, 12:59:05 PM
I joined a trading signals before and i would say that it is a luck if you have bought in cheap and sold it to someone who is part of the group and its like a ponzi scheme. So i would not recommend to join this scheme because you might just lost your money.

And they manipulate people by providing screenshot of their members winning but they are the one whose really winning and making money.
First of I heard about this kind of group for providing trading signal I'm just confused about, its because some of their showing some sample are fake. So they trying find people are willing to buy or invest the coins they showed up and they said can be increase the price in no time. And yes must better to stay away of this kind of scheme and ignore it.

And that's true they trying to manipulate people. So we must not believe on what they talking about just ignore them early.
 


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Edraket31 on November 07, 2019, 01:43:31 PM
I joined a trading signals before and i would say that it is a luck if you have bought in cheap and sold it to someone who is part of the group and its like a ponzi scheme. So i would not recommend to join this scheme because you might just lost your money.

And they manipulate people by providing screenshot of their members winning but they are the one whose really winning and making money.
First of I heard about this kind of group for providing trading signal I'm just confused about, its because some of their showing some sample are fake. So they trying find people are willing to buy or invest the coins they showed up and they said can be increase the price in no time. And yes must better to stay away of this kind of scheme and ignore it.

And that's true they trying to manipulate people. So we must not believe on what they talking about just ignore them early.
 

Those who are giving signals either free or paid signals has nothing difference with scammers, manipulating and using those weak people, or those who has lack of knowledge about trading, they are using them for their own interest, they wanted to have as much as possible a lot of followers so they cannot lose any money as many will believe and will think that their signals is legit.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: beerlover on November 07, 2019, 01:44:39 PM
Considering signals are basically indicators there is really not an "indicator" of what bitcoin will do in reality.

Yeah, they are called indicator in name but just because one indicator was right back in history about price doesn't mean that it will be once again. Just because SMA was x when Y happened doesn't mean it will happen again.

It is a mathematical thing and it is not really up to any person, if a person is making up price movements from his head that is even riskier but at least dude is honest about him making up the price, indicator based signals are even worse because it makes you feel like there is a mathematical possibility that you will make a profit and you can't go wrong which are all a big lie because in the end the indicator could turn out to be wrong quite easily.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Oilacris on November 07, 2019, 03:22:00 PM
Considering signals are basically indicators there is really not an "indicator" of what bitcoin will do in reality.

Yeah, they are called indicator in name but just because one indicator was right back in history about price doesn't mean that it will be once again. Just because SMA was x when Y happened doesn't mean it will happen again.

It is a mathematical thing and it is not really up to any person, if a person is making up price movements from his head that is even riskier but at least dude is honest about him making up the price, indicator based signals are even worse because it makes you feel like there is a mathematical possibility that you will make a profit and you can't go wrong which are all a big lie because in the end the indicator could turn out to be wrong quite easily.
Nothing is certain.!

I don't believe too much on mathematical things when we do talk about indicators and the signals being generated to it.The thing here is that

we shouldn't stick out the past into the present and even on future. Market is always been unpredictable and its a total BS for those people who do
said that they do have precise signals on trading which isn't really true at all.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Genemind on November 07, 2019, 04:20:03 PM
I keep telling people that there is no easy money. You have to learn and the trade for yourself. Trade signals;
- Can be used to Scam you by paying for "premium signals" which are even non-existent
- Can make you lose a ton of money when you have 100% confidence in them and yet the market decided to go in the different direction
- Can be used to make you buy shitcoins and you become a bitcoin bag holder while the architects' sell orders get filled bu you.
- Can be used to make you participate in a pump and dump scheme unknowingly.

It's lazy people who don't want to learn how to trade who usually fall for trade signal scams.


This is definitely true. Why do you have to trust and fall for this trap when you can actually do your own strategy and trust your own guts based on how you understand the market flow? It's necessary that we'll know how to deal with the changes but it's a risk to rely our trading decisions on trading signals. They would manipulate us so it's an edge if we have enough knowledge about trading.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Linkkoin on November 07, 2019, 04:50:42 PM
Trading signals might be more effective on stocks/forex, cryptocurrency market is pretty wild.
And just one whale with one single transaction can crash not only signals for the day but neutralize even a strong trend.

The only trading "signals" which had turned to be effective is to sell during hype (as we say - if a cab driver and people from breakfast tv speak how great bitcoin is, it is the strongest sell signal), and buy when not only mainstream media but cryptocurrency oriented news websites discuss if bitcoin is dead or not.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: alexsandria on November 07, 2019, 06:22:31 PM
This is basically how you earn with looking upon closely to details and being updated in real time world news, events and such. Though you can do this somehow in different way but the profit is entirely different from what you could possibly earned with signals. Nevertheless, it still matters from an individual's effort to earn alot, so, even though you have tools but you yourself aren't responsible you won't be getting anything.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Amel on November 07, 2019, 07:13:36 PM
It is a mathematical thing and it is not really up to any person, if a person is making up price movements from his head that is even riskier but at least dude is honest about him making up the price, indicator based signals are even worse because it makes you feel like there is a mathematical possibility that you will make a profit and you can't go wrong which are all a big lie because in the end the indicator could turn out to be wrong quite easily.

Yeah, trade charts always provide dynamic data on market prices, well this is what makes mathematical calculations often experience a mistake.because mathematics is more identical to static data than dynamic data. What's more, it's all influenced by different fundamentals of traders regarding market conditions.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on November 07, 2019, 11:53:23 PM
I do not recommend following a trading signal. Maybe some will earn from it specially those who bought right away after the signal was announced but what about those who will buy 10 minutes later or 10 minutes after the announcement. If the coin is worth 0.0001 BTC when it was announced, after 10 minutes, that coin maybe worth 0.00015 BTC or even higher. Those who bought at 0.0001 BTC can sell it at that price already gaining 50% profits and what will happen to those who bought at 0.00016 BTC? They are going to be stuck holding that coin because they come in very late.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Murat on November 08, 2019, 04:44:04 AM
No one should depend on another trading signal. if you are able to make understand properly then trading would help you to make a profit from here, don't follow other signals ever, if you do then you must get in the trap, you need to make your own research and try to create a trend line about your portfolio, but for me, following signal contains a huge risk and it might be wrong decision for this purpose. if you have any option then holding could be the best reason to get rid of trading, if you want to take a risk then trading would be the best reason to make a profit from cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: gabbie2010 on November 08, 2019, 04:53:38 AM
Relying on trading signal is like trowing away money into an ocean I have never come across any success story originating from paid signals I believed they sells signals to many clients and generate a lot of money, a perfectly working trading  strategy should have deployed by the owner to make money rather than selling it, the basic truth is to learn how to trade although it might some considerable amount of time, efforts and commitment however in the long run it really worth it.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: coingrowth on November 08, 2019, 06:45:09 AM
It is completely very bad idea to rely on the signal provider because most people will get into this trap and they will lose money. Even I tried to follow many signal providers but failed to make a penny because most of the signal provider will make a huge amount of money by providing the Signals.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: nelson4lov on November 08, 2019, 07:25:42 AM
Trading Signal groups. It's the route that beginners in trading usually take as they start trying trading journey. I for one don't advice using trading services. Contrary to popular beliefs, some signals group do work - - like their winning rate is actually high. However, if there's one thing trading Signals will commit you to is dependence on the signal provider. This is a big problem because if you no longer use the signals but go ahead to analyze or trade, You won't feel very confident about yourself. And when you eventually lose a trade, you'd then lack the courage to continue. Imo, It should be avoided at all costs.

At best, you can take those signals as 'ideas' and further make more analysis on it.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: slaman29 on November 08, 2019, 12:16:57 PM
I do not recommend following a trading signal. Maybe some will earn from it specially those who bought right away after the signal was announced but what about those who will buy 10 minutes later or 10 minutes after the announcement. If the coin is worth 0.0001 BTC when it was announced, after 10 minutes, that coin maybe worth 0.00015 BTC or even higher. Those who bought at 0.0001 BTC can sell it at that price already gaining 50% profits and what will happen to those who bought at 0.00016 BTC? They are going to be stuck holding that coin because they come in very late.

If a guy is only able to announce his signal 10 minutes before, forget it. That means he's the one manipulating the move, and you buying according to the signal is absolutely what he needs to dump the price on you.

You'll never come in early. Signals that are made a day before, like on forex, fine, at least we know the guy isn't manipulating. But that still doesn't guarantee profit guys!


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: wajik-tempe on November 08, 2019, 12:47:58 PM
It is completely very bad idea to rely on the signal provider because most people will get into this trap and they will lose money. Even I tried to follow many signal providers but failed to make a penny because most of the signal provider will make a huge amount of money by providing the Signals.

Yeah actually they are not buying the same with signals they created because sometimes they are in a loss position and make their follower to buy higher the coins that make they loss, so they will exit with profits and leave the followers with loss.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: puertorikosena on November 08, 2019, 01:06:25 PM
I think that the topic of signals has already been voiced many times, but it will never exhaust itself. People always want easy money and quick money. This does not happen, especially in trading. You must make all trading decisions yourself, relying on your knowledge.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 08, 2019, 01:23:07 PM
Using other people's signals doesn't guarantee you to make a profit because they only predict if that will go somewhere. But the question, how if what they predict is not happen? That will need more attention to find out about what will happen in the market. Maybe they have skills to predict where the market wants to go, but they don't know what exactly will happen with the market. So it is better to analyze by yourself because at least you know what suppose you need to do if something goes wrong or you can combine their prediction with your analysis so you can find more clues to enter the market.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: rijaljun on November 08, 2019, 01:29:24 PM
Using other people's signals doesn't guarantee you to make a profit because they only predict if that will go somewhere. But the question, how if what they predict is not happen? That will need more attention to find out about what will happen in the market. Maybe they have skills to predict where the market wants to go, but they don't know what exactly will happen with the market. So it is better to analyze by yourself because at least you know what suppose you need to do if something goes wrong or you can combine their prediction with your analysis so you can find more clues to enter the market.
I know it is better to do it myself, but let me represent most of newbie to say it is not that easy to learn trading. It is always hard to find potential coins, analyze the market, take a right decision on different scenarios, and much more.

People always suggest to do it by ourselves, but they never give us how to do so.

How would you handle this?


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Strongkored on November 08, 2019, 02:55:46 PM
I consider traders who sell paid signals realize that getting profit from trading is not easy. I have followed paid signal, admin get around $3,500 a month from member, I decided to quit when see many of the signal he gave is wrong. In my opinion trading signal is more dangerous than trading itself.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: NathanJB on November 08, 2019, 03:16:11 PM
It is because there is no such way as risk-free. There is no easy way for trading, especially crypto trading. Signals are not guarantees that everything will make you a profit in the end. It is a possibility, and always a possibility, that signals could either be good or bad. Bad signals actually abound, especially signals that you can easily access through social media sites such as twitter, facebook, and telegram.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: dark08 on November 08, 2019, 03:34:48 PM
I consider traders who sell paid signals realize that getting profit from trading is not easy. I have followed paid signal, admin get around $3,500 a month from member, I decided to quit when see many of the signal he gave is wrong. In my opinion trading signal is more dangerous than trading itself.

Following a signal came from paid signal group is not 100% guaranty you will get a good profit because there will be a tendency it will chnage direction and resulting to lose your money, I'm not a fan of any signal group its better to learn the basic to advance technique on trading rather than following this signal group.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Lanatsa on November 08, 2019, 04:03:41 PM
I consider traders who sell paid signals realize that getting profit from trading is not easy. I have followed paid signal, admin get around $3,500 a month from member, I decided to quit when see many of the signal he gave is wrong. In my opinion trading signal is more dangerous than trading itself.

Following a signal came from paid signal group is not 100% guaranty you will get a good profit because there will be a tendency it will chnage direction and resulting to lose your money, I'm not a fan of any signal group its better to learn the basic to advance technique on trading rather than following this signal group.
Not only just changing its direction but also this had been known that most group owners are just tending to scam out those newbie
that do join in the group where they do tell to buy a certain coin because it will pump out soon but actually they are already on peak prices
and when those noobs bought the coins then they do simply dump and leave those noobs bagholding those shit tokens.

Talking with btc and top alts signals then I would say that they are just simply milking out people to make money out of fees.
They don't actually have the skills to have that precise predictions.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: DoublerHunter on November 08, 2019, 04:38:56 PM
~snip~
Talking with btc and top alts signals then I would say that they are just simply milking out people to make money out of fees.
They don't actually have the skills to have that precise predictions.
^ Definitely right, they don't have skills on a prediction but they can manipulate the coin that they wanted to become hype.
This kind of service is for noobs people or those naive people just wanted to make easy money without hard work of searching a potential coins to trade. A paid signal is it could be a trap or the only owner will be got more benefits than the members.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: youdacapt on November 08, 2019, 09:31:30 PM
Using other people's signals doesn't guarantee you to make a profit because they only predict if that will go somewhere. But the question, how if what they predict is not happen? That will need more attention to find out about what will happen in the market. Maybe they have skills to predict where the market wants to go, but they don't know what exactly will happen with the market. So it is better to analyze by yourself because at least you know what suppose you need to do if something goes wrong or you can combine their prediction with your analysis so you can find more clues to enter the market.
many have problems because if they only learn by themselves, the techniques they absorb will only become practical theories. Following the signal will enrich the analysis for orders because it is more precisely associated with an active market.
If the 4 signals given are only 2 correct, then we only need to study the accuracy patterns of the two signals, and then it will become a benchmark for independent analysis later, we only need to take something positive from the experience of others and must understand the risks as well.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: adroitful_one on November 08, 2019, 09:43:04 PM
It's pretty simple. Most of these trading signals you guys get are plain old pump and dump schemes and you all are paying for the privilege of getting screwed. Unless you get in at the price the people who announced the pump signal, you're going to end up losing money. Most of the time, this won't happen because they have been stocking up on the coin for a week or more before even announcing the signal to people. You'll end up with the signal posters coins stuck in hand because everyone purchasing the coin at the same time jumped the price up a bit and it won't hit that price again possibly ever.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: hulla on November 08, 2019, 10:00:55 PM
Using other people's signals doesn't guarantee you to make a profit because they only predict if that will go somewhere. But the question, how if what they predict is not happen? That will need more attention to find out about what will happen in the market. Maybe they have skills to predict where the market wants to go, but they don't know what exactly will happen with the market. So it is better to analyze by yourself because at least you know what suppose you need to do if something goes wrong or you can combine their prediction with your analysis so you can find more clues to enter the market.
many have problems because if they only learn by themselves, the techniques they absorb will only become practical theories. Following the signal will enrich the analysis for orders because it is more precisely associated with an active market.
If the 4 signals given are only 2 correct, then we only need to study the accuracy patterns of the two signals, and then it will become a benchmark for independent analysis later, we only need to take something positive from the experience of others and must understand the risks as well.
You both said well but following someone trading signals without performing your own analysis to check if the signal worth rely on is definitely not a good idea and this why I supported what Youdacapt said cause some signal provider post some wrong information sometime in other to pump the price of their pet coin.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Ararbermas on November 09, 2019, 01:29:01 AM
Relying in some trading signal is very risky because mostly of them are fake and not certain wherein can cause losses only based on my experience also , so not recommend . Much better to make your own technical analysis  or fundamental to assure everything will be fine and you are in a right path because relying in some sort of signal group and etc are not really safe because of some frauds . So we need to adjust and be careful on what we're doing to prevent regrets and losses  


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: drachman on November 09, 2019, 01:49:32 AM
I do not recommend following a trading signal. Maybe some will earn from it specially those who bought right away after the signal was announced but what about those who will buy 10 minutes later or 10 minutes after the announcement. If the coin is worth 0.0001 BTC when it was announced, after 10 minutes, that coin maybe worth 0.00015 BTC or even higher. Those who bought at 0.0001 BTC can sell it at that price already gaining 50% profits and what will happen to those who bought at 0.00016 BTC? They are going to be stuck holding that coin because they come in very late.
Those that follow signals do not really understand the market, if you were to look at how the most successful traders around the world became that way you will see that no one follows the signals generated by others, they have their own way to tell what they market will do and then when the market moves in that way they enter the market not caring about what anyone else thinks and until you can do that then you are not really a good trader.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: NathanJB on November 09, 2019, 01:59:24 AM
I do not recommend following a trading signal. Maybe some will earn from it specially those who bought right away after the signal was announced but what about those who will buy 10 minutes later or 10 minutes after the announcement. If the coin is worth 0.0001 BTC when it was announced, after 10 minutes, that coin maybe worth 0.00015 BTC or even higher. Those who bought at 0.0001 BTC can sell it at that price already gaining 50% profits and what will happen to those who bought at 0.00016 BTC? They are going to be stuck holding that coin because they come in very late.
Those that follow signals do not really understand the market, if you were to look at how the most successful traders around the world became that way you will see that no one follows the signals generated by others, they have their own way to tell what they market will do and then when the market moves in that way they enter the market not caring about what anyone else thinks and until you can do that then you are not really a good trader.

Because an accurate signal will never hit the market. What will hit the market are vague signals that are sold at a premium. These signals are coming from people who are not even experts themselves. These are people who are failing in trading even after they studied a lot about crypto trading. And to save these skills from becoming a total garbage, they are selling signals that are not really going to take place.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: wxxyrqa on November 09, 2019, 10:54:50 AM
I do not recommend following a trading signal. Maybe some will earn from it specially those who bought right away after the signal was announced but what about those who will buy 10 minutes later or 10 minutes after the announcement. If the coin is worth 0.0001 BTC when it was announced, after 10 minutes, that coin maybe worth 0.00015 BTC or even higher. Those who bought at 0.0001 BTC can sell it at that price already gaining 50% profits and what will happen to those who bought at 0.00016 BTC? They are going to be stuck holding that coin because they come in very late.
Those that follow signals do not really understand the market, if you were to look at how the most successful traders around the world became that way you will see that no one follows the signals generated by others, they have their own way to tell what they market will do and then when the market moves in that way they enter the market not caring about what anyone else thinks and until you can do that then you are not really a good trader.
In my opinion, an experienced trader will never turn to the help of signals, because he already has experience and knowledge in order to analyze the cryptocurrency market and take the right actions based on the findings.  You are really right that all signals are primarily in demand among beginners or not too experienced traders who want to get a good income thanks to information that is easily accessible and in their opinion is too important.  But I believe that the action of the signals is aimed at manipulating a significant mass of traders for the sake of certain people.  This is how some groups and communities of speculators manipulate the market.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: AliMan on November 09, 2019, 12:59:55 PM
I do not recommend following a trading signal. Maybe some will earn from it specially those who bought right away after the signal was announced but what about those who will buy 10 minutes later or 10 minutes after the announcement. If the coin is worth 0.0001 BTC when it was announced, after 10 minutes, that coin maybe worth 0.00015 BTC or even higher. Those who bought at 0.0001 BTC can sell it at that price already gaining 50% profits and what will happen to those who bought at 0.00016 BTC? They are going to be stuck holding that coin because they come in very late.
Those that follow signals do not really understand the market, if you were to look at how the most successful traders around the world became that way you will see that no one follows the signals generated by others, they have their own way to tell what they market will do and then when the market moves in that way they enter the market not caring about what anyone else thinks and until you can do that then you are not really a good trader.

Because an accurate signal will never hit the market. What will hit the market are vague signals that are sold at a premium. These signals are coming from people who are not even experts themselves. These are people who are failing in trading even after they studied a lot about crypto trading. And to save these skills from becoming a total garbage, they are selling signals that are not really going to take place.

Try to have your own set of analysis in order to come up the best solutions. Relying with other persons opinion might contribute to your formulation of ideas for choosing when would be the right time to do the right things. Constant market monitoring, must be observed closely to avoid losing bigger amount of money, because if you're going to miss the chances you won't be able to form a good foundations for a successful trading with less risk.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: aysg76 on November 09, 2019, 01:03:19 PM
See you can take the help of the trading signals if you are new to trading but do not blindly follow the instructions of trading groups as most of the time they force you to invest in shit altcoins that have no potential to rise in future and you block your funds in that coin.Always research on your own and monitor the growth of market regualarly to gain expreience and slowly avoid joining such signal group and be your own king.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: HarmonyA on November 09, 2019, 07:24:33 PM
I look at trading signals as organized schemes to lure the gullible people into  a trap. Because it doesn't end in joy for the greedy. This signals are arranged in a way that make people trust them and dive in, which they end up making profits and leaving others in oblivion.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: btc_angela on November 09, 2019, 09:32:06 PM
It really doesn't make sense for people to follow blindly trading signals. I mean who are the people behind this group? And how can you trust that they are not putting you in jeopardy because we it's possible that they already put up their orders before giving you the signals, meaning they will generate profit more than you do. So I would suggest to just stay away with it, much better if you do your TA yourself. If you don't know TA then you hard to work your ass off and learn it, simply as that.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: carter34 on November 09, 2019, 10:48:41 PM
- Can be used to make you buy shitcoins and you become a shitcoin bag holder while the architects' sell orders get filled bu you.

I can feel you on this and I totally agree with you. As a newbie that takes in all that was heard. I bought a couple of coins sic included and today, sic is about to be delisted and in fact shutting down of coinexchange.

- Can make you lose a ton of money when you have 100% confidence in them and yet the market decided to go in the different direction

Yes, one thing we have to take home is the above. It can be pushed off your direction and what would you do ? ;D losing your money.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Yamifoud on November 09, 2019, 10:49:11 PM
That is why I'd never give trust to this cause we know that nobody could see what will happen next, in fact, we are still in the volatility which reminds us always about it changes. I don't know if those people or traders who used signal trading achieve their goal and even more profitable than those casual traders. Cause even we follow charts, signals but in the end, we still have our own decision which still losses the value of those things.

Having this thing isn't a guarantee to make money and just @ Jerome Tash says, there is no easy money in crypto is absolutely right.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: adroitful_one on November 10, 2019, 09:58:18 AM
I do not recommend following a trading signal. Maybe some will earn from it specially those who bought right away after the signal was announced but what about those who will buy 10 minutes later or 10 minutes after the announcement. If the coin is worth 0.0001 BTC when it was announced, after 10 minutes, that coin maybe worth 0.00015 BTC or even higher. Those who bought at 0.0001 BTC can sell it at that price already gaining 50% profits and what will happen to those who bought at 0.00016 BTC? They are going to be stuck holding that coin because they come in very late.
Those that follow signals do not really understand the market, if you were to look at how the most successful traders around the world became that way you will see that no one follows the signals generated by others, they have their own way to tell what they market will do and then when the market moves in that way they enter the market not caring about what anyone else thinks and until you can do that then you are not really a good trader.

Because an accurate signal will never hit the market. What will hit the market are vague signals that are sold at a premium. These signals are coming from people who are not even experts themselves. These are people who are failing in trading even after they studied a lot about crypto trading. And to save these skills from becoming a total garbage, they are selling signals that are not really going to take place.

Most of these signals are just b.s. being sold to people in order to clear up some bags the people running it are holding. It's pretty simple really. Let's say that they bought too much XSN(just an example here) and the price went down and hasn't recovered for a few days. So, they post a signal telling everyone to buy XSN and put in their sell order to make a little profit off of it. You're the ones stuck holding their bags in the end and more than likely aren't going to make your money back off of that trade for a while.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Landak on November 10, 2019, 01:26:16 PM
I do not recommend following a trading signal. Maybe some will earn from it specially those who bought right away after the signal was announced but what about those who will buy 10 minutes later or 10 minutes after the announcement. If the coin is worth 0.0001 BTC when it was announced, after 10 minutes, that coin maybe worth 0.00015 BTC or even higher. Those who bought at 0.0001 BTC can sell it at that price already gaining 50% profits and what will happen to those who bought at 0.00016 BTC? They are going to be stuck holding that coin because they come in very late.
Those that follow signals do not really understand the market, if you were to look at how the most successful traders around the world became that way you will see that no one follows the signals generated by others, they have their own way to tell what they market will do and then when the market moves in that way they enter the market not caring about what anyone else thinks and until you can do that then you are not really a good trader.

Because an accurate signal will never hit the market. What will hit the market are vague signals that are sold at a premium. These signals are coming from people who are not even experts themselves. These are people who are failing in trading even after they studied a lot about crypto trading. And to save these skills from becoming a total garbage, they are selling signals that are not really going to take place.

Most of these signals are just b.s. being sold to people in order to clear up some bags the people running it are holding. It's pretty simple really. Let's say that they bought too much XSN(just an example here) and the price went down and hasn't recovered for a few days. So, they post a signal telling everyone to buy XSN and put in their sell order to make a little profit off of it. You're the ones stuck holding their bags in the end and more than likely aren't going to make your money back off of that trade for a while.
Problems like that most often occur, they give the wrong signal (a trap) to order sell and buy without any specific and clear information.


the risk of using trading signals is that you might be able to get the wrong signal. although following the trading signal is not wrong (a little lazy) but more better is learning to understand about technical analysis.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: rodel caling on November 10, 2019, 01:52:59 PM
Yeah can't avoid risk using crypto trading signal not all tips giving of the expert are not perfectly correct, why? It's also use technical analysis predicting crypto price.
One of the worse joining in crypto signal base on my own experience is wating of miney need yo pay  before to join in the signal groups.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: JeffBrad12 on November 10, 2019, 02:00:03 PM
I look at trading signals as organized schemes to lure the gullible people into  a trap. Because it doesn't end in joy for the greedy. This signals are arranged in a way that make people trust them and dive in, which they end up making profits and leaving others in oblivion.
That is usually the case when there is a trading signal service and having a big community in it the so called expert will eive and take advantage of the people’s money meanwhile they are cashing out while the market is being pumped by their victim. Trading signal is a fancy name for prediction it could definitely goes wrong and that happens really often. There are some people that are good at analyzation but still it is always better to do all by yourself. Never think that following trading signal will give you absolute profit.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Dart18 on November 10, 2019, 02:40:10 PM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.



I always don't go that far.
I can see that all in Facebook and Twitter and also Telegram but it is just that it aint easy to believe them.
More like a black propaganda to me.
They make it look like they are many of them in a group but mostly it is just one person who have different account saying he agree with the other guy but the reality is not like that.
It is a scam but just not looked like it.
If I were you, I would really stay away from that.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Mahanton on November 10, 2019, 04:09:05 PM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.



I always don't go that far.
I can see that all in Facebook and Twitter and also Telegram but it is just that it aint easy to believe them.
More like a black propaganda to me.
They make it look like they are many of them in a group but mostly it is just one person who have different account saying he agree with the other guy but the reality is not like that.
It is a scam but just not looked like it.
If I were you, I would really stay away from that.
One of the most common set-up but actually you can spot it out if you do already had the experienced eyes and mind about these fraud groups.
Just to think that if these people who do offer trading signals that they do had precise analysis then they wont matter themselves on giving
or let other knows on how to trade and what to trade since he already knows that he do make money on his own without the need of letting
other people join him.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: senne on November 10, 2019, 04:37:59 PM
Many people fall victim of these trading signals.
These so called trading "Gururs" first earn money through paid subscriptions and then they first buy the coin themseleves and then pump it by giving a signal and that's the point where they sell it. Many new people in order to make it big in crypto trading start following such people and at then end get rekt.
One should be cautious of such groups.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: alan2here on November 11, 2019, 09:37:57 AM
It really doesn't make sense for people to follow blindly trading signals. I mean who are the people behind this group? And how can you trust that they are not putting you in jeopardy because we it's possible that they already put up their orders before giving you the signals, meaning they will generate profit more than you do. So I would suggest to just stay away with it, much better if you do your TA yourself. If you don't know TA then you hard to work your ass off and learn it, simply as that.
Most of these signals are not guaranteed and can completely put you at risk of investment. I often see a lot at Telegram where there are thousands of different signals being given every day and there are no clear analytics so I never believed. In my opinion, it is best to analyze the coin yourself and make the safest investment decision because the crypto market is not an easy place to make money and add financial knowledge in your spare time to improve.

Sometimes I see some good signals but just watch and always think a lot of times before making a decision. I could lose the chance but would never choose to invest if that coin had no specific analysis.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: NewRanger on November 11, 2019, 09:59:55 AM
Many people fall victim of these trading signals.
These so called trading "Gururs" first earn money through paid subscriptions and then they first buy the coin themseleves and then pump it by giving a signal and that's the point where they sell it. Many new people in order to make it big in crypto trading start following such people and at then end get rekt.
One should be cautious of such groups.
maybe i called it as signal manipulation.they trying to convincing beginner trader with their trading signal,although we dont know actually they use screenshot from other traders.followers from this signal group will always rekt,cause they just be used by its admin.maybe learning how to analize chart and market will help us to improve our own skills.so we will not harmed by wrong signal from providers.If we dont do this i am sure we will not survive for long term.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Pamadar on November 11, 2019, 10:23:20 AM
Many people fall victim of these trading signals.
These so called trading "Gururs" first earn money through paid subscriptions and then they first buy the coin themseleves and then pump it by giving a signal and that's the point where they sell it. Many new people in order to make it big in crypto trading start following such people and at then end get rekt.
One should be cautious of such groups.
maybe i called it as signal manipulation.they trying to convincing beginner trader with their trading signal,although we dont know actually they use screenshot from other traders.followers from this signal group will always rekt,cause they just be used by its admin.maybe learning how to analize chart and market will help us to improve our own skills.so we will not harmed by wrong signal from providers.If we dont do this i am sure we will not survive for long term.
Indeed. If you have no knowledge with particular business that you are in, there's no chance of surviving in the long run, you might find signals that luckily works for the short term but in reality it will only trapped you up and eventually you'll get to lose your investment. The best way is to be more realistic and keeps finding ways to improve your knowledge, being good in doing research and study advanced you up to anticipate what will the market is waiting ahead. Deal with your own understanding and not to keep dwelling with signal groups.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: jets567 on November 11, 2019, 11:01:01 AM
I've been in various telegram group for a long time that providing free trading signals and all I can say it's not bad at all because I use their signals as a guide and do my own research before buying. It's risky but if you understand how it works then you can take this as an advantage and earn in a short-term trading.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: arwin100 on November 11, 2019, 01:03:33 PM
Many people fall victim of these trading signals.
These so called trading "Gururs" first earn money through paid subscriptions and then they first buy the coin themseleves and then pump it by giving a signal and that's the point where they sell it. Many new people in order to make it big in crypto trading start following such people and at then end get rekt.
One should be cautious of such groups.
maybe i called it as signal manipulation.they trying to convincing beginner trader with their trading signal,although we dont know actually they use screenshot from other traders.followers from this signal group will always rekt,cause they just be used by its admin.maybe learning how to analize chart and market will help us to improve our own skills.so we will not harmed by wrong signal from providers.If we dont do this i am sure we will not survive for long term.
Indeed. If you have no knowledge with particular business that you are in, there's no chance of surviving in the long run, you might find signals that luckily works for the short term but in reality it will only trapped you up and eventually you'll get to lose your investment. The best way is to be more realistic and keeps finding ways to improve your knowledge, being good in doing research and study advanced you up to anticipate what will the market is waiting ahead. Deal with your own understanding and not to keep dwelling with signal groups.

That's why you need to be more attentive if there's a signal given since there are signals provided for short term period and if you are left for the exit times for sure you will end up bag holding and worse you will lose your money. But if you have time to do research then it so good since I will agree with you with deal base on your understandings since by this we will safely earn if we do the tradings right.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: SquallLeonhart on November 11, 2019, 04:53:30 PM
It is completely very bad idea to rely on the signal provider because most people will get into this trap and they will lose money. Even I tried to follow many signal providers but failed to make a penny because most of the signal provider will make a huge amount of money by providing the Signals.
Signal are actually meant for working class people who does not have the time to go through analysis the market before they make their own trade, and this is why you see that they all use bot services for their trading or they join a group of people that are into giving signals which I am not against because it solves someone's problem, but the rate for which many people are just promising signal that they are not able to provide, and you see them actually convincing lots of people into registering with them.

One thing that I know about signal for people that are not workers is that they can make lots of money from it, I have a group that I join too despite the fact I analyze things on my own, and most of the time the group had made some prediction, it is always getting through.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Darooghe on November 11, 2019, 05:30:20 PM
I would stay far away from any signals groups to be honest. It will definitely not help you learn and it may even end up getting your money lost. If you want to make "side" money just put everything you were going to invest in signals, into an aggressive ETF, these are more legit. with signal groups even if they tell you when to buy AND when to sell, you're still looking at taking on huge amounts of risk. At the end of the day, you're sadly not leaning anything. also most are scams. You should be very selective in who you give your money to, and remember it is not just the cost of the subscription, you are also essentially giving them control over your account, and run the risk of them blowing out your account.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: wxa7115 on November 12, 2019, 04:26:55 PM
I would stay far away from any signals groups to be honest. It will definitely not help you learn and it may even end up getting your money lost. If you want to make "side" money just put everything you were going to invest in signals, into an aggressive ETF, these are more legit. with signal groups even if they tell you when to buy AND when to sell, you're still looking at taking on huge amounts of risk. At the end of the day, you're sadly not leaning anything. also most are scams. You should be very selective in who you give your money to, and remember it is not just the cost of the subscription, you are also essentially giving them control over your account, and run the risk of them blowing out your account.
And that is a problem, even if you could find a signal group that was not interested on taking your money and you followed their signals and made money with them then a new trader will come to believe that is the say he is supposed to trade and it will hinder his growth, he will never take the time to look at the markets and try to make conclusions about what it is happening and will never become a good trader as a result of this.

As difficult as it may seem at first it is better to study the markets on our own and come with our own signals that way you will always have the security that you can watch any market and know if you should go short, long or do nothing.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Findingnemo on November 12, 2019, 05:37:26 PM
Making profits and losses is not new or worried about in a crypto market since the prices are completely unpredictable so the term trading signals are void here.It is just to make you trust them for something you pay for or just to manipulate the prices in the way they want.Did you ever heard anyone become millionaire with trading signals,even if they know they wouldn't tell them to anyone.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: suvo05 on November 12, 2019, 08:33:59 PM
There are lots of social media groups regarding the trading signals. I won't say all of them are bad some of them does a very good market research and some times their price predictions come true. There are some groups who also target small volume coin and tries to manipulate the coin price.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on November 12, 2019, 11:56:35 PM
While we should NOT trust the signals given by those groups, you will be surprised to know this guys also decide which coin to pump using TAs so that when they made an announcement, doing this it will get the attention of their members and would be members. I dont use this but sometimes I use it as a guide as to what coin will be pumped in a next couple of hours. I did not subscribe in any of those specially the paid ones.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: cryptoangel on November 13, 2019, 03:15:40 AM
There are lots of social media groups regarding the trading signals. I won't say all of them are bad some of them does a very good market research and some times their price predictions come true. There are some groups who also target small volume coin and tries to manipulate the coin price.
In reality some trading signals are worked in crypto platform. But we can't say all the time come positive because everything is just a prediction. So we can think ourself and prepare the perfect manner, The current market is little easy to predict further pump and dump so own analysis will guide you most of the time.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Btc_1856 on November 13, 2019, 04:45:58 AM
There are lots of social media groups regarding the trading signals. I won't say all of them are bad some of them does a very good market research and some times their price predictions come true. There are some groups who also target small volume coin and tries to manipulate the coin price.
In reality some trading signals are worked in crypto platform. But we can't say all the time come positive because everything is just a prediction. So we can think ourself and prepare the perfect manner, The current market is little easy to predict further pump and dump so own analysis will guide you most of the time.

Yes, you are right instead of depending on the others, it is very good to predict our signals and it will surely help us to learn the trading knowledge. It is not a good idea to depend on others because they won't give us any perfect signals everything will be predictions. Trading will be not positive always so think before placing orders.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: adroitful_one on November 13, 2019, 06:37:58 AM
While we should NOT trust the signals given by those groups, you will be surprised to know this guys also decide which coin to pump using TAs so that when they made an announcement, doing this it will get the attention of their members and would be members. I dont use this but sometimes I use it as a guide as to what coin will be pumped in a next couple of hours. I did not subscribe in any of those specially the paid ones.

The signals are how they decide what coin is going to pump. All they do is pick a coin and then release the information to the public. The public then buys the coin up and they can claim that they predicted a pump coming. When in reality, the pump wasn't coming until the public started purchasing the coin because they told them to. It can work in your favor if you get in early enough. But, more than likely, you won't and you'll end up buying at the top of the pump.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: semobo on November 13, 2019, 07:59:30 AM
Trading signals or predictions has no accuracy to discuss about so risk is high if you just trade based on the signals.Better learn how the trading and prices of cryptos works then you will know how useless the signal groups were.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: riso2015 on November 13, 2019, 08:50:18 AM
I've been in various telegram group for a long time that providing free trading signals and all I can say it's not bad at all because I use their signals as a guide and do my own research before buying. It's risky but if you understand how it works then you can take this as an advantage and earn in a short-term trading.
Yes, I agree with you, do not swallow raw what is conveyed by them. Keep using your own analysis. I just followed what they said about what coins were good at the time to buy. Then I analyze the coins myself, not following when they say, you have to buy at this or that rate.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Apened on November 13, 2019, 10:08:10 AM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.

This is very helpful for the newbies just like what you've said. The risk is to big in particular to the newly created traders in the market signals was so good and it is catchy on the eye of the people because they can see an actual profit after tge call or signal but they didn't really know how to partake on those signals. I'm one of the followers of signals before and i can say is i loss on that signals from time to time then i stufy and learn trading finding a mentor etc. But the real key is in ourselves no best mentor or cheat sheets will make us profit but its all about how we learn to apply those things.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: TrevorS on November 13, 2019, 10:43:45 AM
I used to try trading on trading signals. Having lost a lot of money on this, I stopped.First of all, I see my guilt in my losses. Signals of this kind require patience.
In order for the signals to work, it is necessary to use them all to one, in this case there is a chance that 80% of them will work, and the rest do not.
You will be in the black. But you also need to have enough patience to wait for the signal to trigger.
I couldn’t.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Ucy on November 13, 2019, 10:46:22 AM
The bolded part at number three is quite interesting one. I guess you should prove it actually happens else it'd be proper to consider it as mere speculation. Won't be if it happens though.
Free signals (especially those from YouTube and TradeView) worked in the past. I don't know about thesedays. Been long I used them.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Asmonist on November 13, 2019, 12:08:55 PM
I haven't use it so far. As per other comments on this thread, I'm scared to use trading signals. Its too risky to engage in that thing which has already bad feedbacks. So far, I'm still satisfied to do the traditional trading. If trading signals would give you chance to get higher returns but the rate of risk is so high as well, then its better to have little by little as long as its constant.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: ReiMomo on November 13, 2019, 12:21:26 PM
I haven't use it so far. As per other comments on this thread, I'm scared to use trading signals. Its too risky to engage in that thing which has already bad feedbacks. So far, I'm still satisfied to do the traditional trading. If trading signals would give you chance to get higher returns but the rate of risk is so high as well, then its better to have little by little as long as its constant.
We are on the same side, I always afraid to use or join a trading signal group. I prefer on my own knowledge than relying upon other hype groups that obviously some of them are fake. This might lead you to a sudden loss. Much better if you use tools in trading like autobot, this will probably help than joining the trading signal group that obviously they are intended to scam their member or hold your Bitcoin for long term only.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: zeze18 on November 13, 2019, 01:06:42 PM
There are lots of social media groups regarding the trading signals. I won't say all of them are bad some of them does a very good market research and some times their price predictions come true. There are some groups who also target small volume coin and tries to manipulate the coin price.

But i'm sure they will be not always true, sometimes they're just lucky enough eventhough their analysis is good but cryptocurrency price is still unpredictable. And also you just mentioned a pumping group who bait people to buy the coin and they will sell theirs when the signals is launched, there are many pumping signal group and i think the follower is the victims


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: TrevorS on November 13, 2019, 03:03:24 PM
I haven't use it so far. As per other comments on this thread, I'm scared to use trading signals. Its too risky to engage in that thing which has already bad feedbacks. So far, I'm still satisfied to do the traditional trading. If trading signals would give you chance to get higher returns but the rate of risk is so high as well, then its better to have little by little as long as its constant.
We are on the same side, I always afraid to use or join a trading signal group. I prefer on my own knowledge than relying upon other hype groups that obviously some of them are fake. This might lead you to a sudden loss. Much better if you use tools in trading like autobot, this will probably help than joining the trading signal group that obviously they are intended to scam their member or hold your Bitcoin for long term only.

Everything related to signal supply-related groups should be passed through your multi-layer criticism.
This is dangerous primarily because no one gives you any guarantees, and often there is no transparency in transaction statistics.
The only option that I see in the signal format is the repetition of signals for your trading coach, or at least the repetition of orders for a really experienced and strong trader.
This will make sense, as well as the risk that you burn significantly less. The main thing is to understand whether the one for whom you repeat really understands the essence and knows how to work with the market.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: jostorres on November 14, 2019, 07:21:56 AM
There are lots of social media groups regarding the trading signals. I won't say all of them are bad some of them does a very good market research and some times their price predictions come true. There are some groups who also target small volume coin and tries to manipulate the coin price.
In reality some trading signals are worked in crypto platform. But we can't say all the time come positive because everything is just a prediction. So we can think ourself and prepare the perfect manner, The current market is little easy to predict further pump and dump so own analysis will guide you most of the time.
There are trading signals that actually work, but it is hard to really get a genuine one because most of the people that offers to give some are doing do for money and after collecting subscription free from the interested person, that is the end of it.

I am always very careful when following some of these signals so that I don’t get mislead and like we know, signals are from people like us also, maybe someone who feels he or she has gotten enough experience, it is not like there is anything special about that. So, I usually implore people that they should always try as much as possible to make sure that they develop themselves to that level too where they can always know on how to use technical analysis which is the base of these signal providers.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: TrevorS on November 14, 2019, 11:01:40 AM
I am always very careful when following some of these signals so that I don’t get mislead and like we know, signals are from people like us also, maybe someone who feels he or she has gotten enough experience, it is not like there is anything special about that. So, I usually implore people that they should always try as much as possible to make sure that they develop themselves to that level too where they can always know on how to use technical analysis which is the base of these signal providers.

This is a rather complicated and painstaking path. If you follow your recommendation, then the person is more likely to become an experienced trader who himself will be able to provide or sell signals.
However, this path is very long, very costly and it is not known what result it will lead to. I think it will be much better and faster to find a really good trader and become his student, at least for the development of some basic knowledge. Either for the expensive price to buy signals from him or the effective signals that he used earlier, if any.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: inthelongrun on November 14, 2019, 11:40:04 AM
You should not rely or even trust the trading signals that you will be receiving from anyone because you don't know how they plot their entry and exit because it is not based on your knowledge and style. You should make a trading strategy by yourself so you will have no one to blame when things go wrong and you will improve if you will rely on yourself all the time through mistakes.

Some rich people do not want to stress themselves on things they aren't interested. I remember few years ago maybe 5 people asked me to handle a portion of their money. Either I can invest it short term and long term or to actively trade it in crypto or stocks or both. I always decline, I am not that good of a trader and investor. And I felt, I can be more focus when risking my own money. So I cannot really say anything bad on people paying someone to give them trading signals. It's for their own risk. I also tried it twice. The first guru was only good at the start and we ended in disaster. The second one I profited but I am hard headed and made my own strategic versions which didn't worked well. I then decided to take a break from trading. I only hold some coins and stocks but seldom do trades anymore.     


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: DBronze98 on November 14, 2019, 11:59:48 AM
 This issue has been mentioned many times and this transaction is only suitable for lazy people. They are just waiting for the opportunity to buy coins cheaply, but they don't know that behind it is a whole bunch of sharks waiting to be eaten.
This is an unreliable way to trade. It is very risky and easy to lose money.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: albrots on November 14, 2019, 01:31:41 PM
Using signals for trading is indeed a very simple way to get profit. But the signal given by a free group is only a signal that has the purpose to provide benefits to the group creator, they have installed the sell order price first and spread the signal on the buy order that has been set in advance. Many games are in the signal group. But paid groups are usually provided with the latest technical analysis and news about the coins being talked about. If you want to use trading signals, that's your decision.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: dunfida on November 14, 2019, 03:21:01 PM
You should not rely or even trust the trading signals that you will be receiving from anyone because you don't know how they plot their entry and exit because it is not based on your knowledge and style. You should make a trading strategy by yourself so you will have no one to blame when things go wrong and you will improve if you will rely on yourself all the time through mistakes.

Some rich people do not want to stress themselves on things they aren't interested. I remember few years ago maybe 5 people asked me to handle a portion of their money. Either I can invest it short term and long term or to actively trade it in crypto or stocks or both. I always decline, I am not that good of a trader and investor. And I felt, I can be more focus when risking my own money. So I cannot really say anything bad on people paying someone to give them trading signals. It's for their own risk. I also tried it twice. The first guru was only good at the start and we ended in disaster. The second one I profited but I am hard headed and made my own strategic versions which didn't worked well. I then decided to take a break from trading. I only hold some coins and stocks but seldom do trades anymore.     
Experiencing the same thing when im still trading up with Forex and stocks where there are really some individuals which do really likes for their funds to be handled by others and they do just like to get net income with it but of course i dont have that kind of confidence with my trading system which its always been risky for you to handle out funds
which even you cant be sure on what would be the outcome on monthly basis.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: fullhdpixel on November 15, 2019, 01:37:14 PM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.
That's right. I have not made use of this signal of a thing but I have seen people who make use of it and they are not being successful. Funny thing is that these people still continue to use it, hoping that they are going to someday get an accurate signal. I have not seen anything that will convince me to join any signal group, though some claims that VIP signals are always accurate, I still don't know if that's true because I have not seen anyone that uses VIP yet.

Using signals are just risk, the best is to get a professional and learn from him or her how to trade these assets, instead of being deceived by these scammers. Or if you don't know how to trade on a daily basis, you can switch to long term investments (HODL). HODL is more easy than when you're into day trading.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Ferris419 on November 15, 2019, 02:41:57 PM
Trading by flowing the signal is very risky for the newbie traders. Honestly, I haven't seen any good free signal group! But yes there are some really professional signal givers who take a very high amount of money for their signals. Recently I have seen a premium group where all the signal becomes true but they asked me 250$ for a month! My friends took that offer and now he is good at trading! But that offer is ended, they asked 500$ when I knocked them the second time. But this is not life, you have to learn first, then you can explore all the opportunities, not before. Following the signal, you may earn profit for days one to three but you can't be pro! 


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Google+ on November 15, 2019, 02:43:57 PM
This issue has been mentioned many times and this transaction is only suitable for lazy people. They are just waiting for the opportunity to buy coins cheaply, but they don't know that behind it is a whole bunch of sharks waiting to be eaten.
This is an unreliable way to trade. It is very risky and easy to lose money.
only traders who have more experience will realize that such signals are just lies and should if there are signals like that don't be too trusted because usually the team behind the project will buy first and after that will sell coins quickly and make coins many traders on the signal become stuck at high prices.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Distinctin on November 15, 2019, 03:25:39 PM
This issue has been mentioned many times and this transaction is only suitable for lazy people. They are just waiting for the opportunity to buy coins cheaply, but they don't know that behind it is a whole bunch of sharks waiting to be eaten.
This is an unreliable way to trade. It is very risky and easy to lose money.
only traders who have more experience will realize that such signals are just lies and should if there are signals like that don't be too trusted because usually the team behind the project will buy first and after that will sell coins quickly and make coins many traders on the signal become stuck at high prices.
Cause they have already a bad experience coming from these things. That is why experts never encourage traders to follow signals and even used it for trading cause they know what would be the possible ends.

Noobs will be the most common victims from this, not exactly they never about the risk of using signals but they are blinded enough for not seeing it. They can only realize once they already suffer losses. If they would listen to us, then there is a chance that they will be safe and able to enjoy their life in trading base on their market perspective.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: NeironixNV on November 15, 2019, 08:08:12 PM
If we are talking about signals that are sold on paid channels, then I completely agree, most of these channels are complete nonsense, where people lose their money. I personally prefer to analyze the market myself, read the news on various news portals( Neironix.io, cointelegraph etc.), tradingview analytics and make decisions ourselves, rather than pray for signals from closed paid groups.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Hypnosis00 on November 15, 2019, 10:28:20 PM
If we are talking about signals that are sold on paid channels, then I completely agree, most of these channels are complete nonsense, where people lose their money. I personally prefer to analyze the market myself, read the news on various news portals( Neironix.io, cointelegraph etc.), tradingview analytics and make decisions ourselves, rather than pray for signals from closed paid groups.
Exactly what experts do. Following signals aren't beneficial to our ends instead, it makes us fooled by scammers. If we have our own market understanding, it is enough to hold back our trades into having a positive result. It is better to make our own market speculation, analyze market charts, and think wisely, these all be the way we should have to do and nothing we have to rely on those (fake) signals sold around.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Exidous on November 16, 2019, 03:44:12 AM
If we are talking about signals that are sold on paid channels, then I completely agree, most of these channels are complete nonsense, where people lose their money. I personally prefer to analyze the market myself, read the news on various news portals( Neironix.io, cointelegraph etc.), tradingview analytics and make decisions ourselves, rather than pray for signals from closed paid groups.
Most don't have any specific analysis when giving signals and this is not recommended when participating in the crypto market. Now a lot of analytical lessons for you and can apply the knowledge you have learned when trading because if you have the knowledge you will never fail to trade. I never join signals on Telegram because their predictions are unclear and inaccurate.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: drachman on November 16, 2019, 05:59:13 AM
Those that follow signals do not really understand the market, if you were to look at how the most successful traders around the world became that way you will see that no one follows the signals generated by others, they have their own way to tell what they market will do and then when the market moves in that way they enter the market not caring about what anyone else thinks and until you can do that then you are not really a good trader.
In my opinion, an experienced trader will never turn to the help of signals, because he already has experience and knowledge in order to analyze the cryptocurrency market and take the right actions based on the findings.  You are really right that all signals are primarily in demand among beginners or not too experienced traders who want to get a good income thanks to information that is easily accessible and in their opinion is too important.  But I believe that the action of the signals is aimed at manipulating a significant mass of traders for the sake of certain people.  This is how some groups and communities of speculators manipulate the market.
I also think this happens because people do not really want to work hard for what they want, everyone wants to be a trader because they are attracted by the profits and I do not blame them because the same happens to me, but they are not willing to make any effort to learn, then when they see they are not getting the results they want they look for the easiest solution they can find which is to try to look for signals that come from other traders and try to profit from them.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: riso2015 on November 16, 2019, 07:06:50 AM
If we are talking about signals that are sold on paid channels, then I completely agree, most of these channels are complete nonsense, where people lose their money. I personally prefer to analyze the market myself, read the news on various news portals( Neironix.io, cointelegraph etc.), tradingview analytics and make decisions ourselves, rather than pray for signals from closed paid groups.
Most don't have any specific analysis when giving signals and this is not recommended when participating in the crypto market. Now a lot of analytical lessons for you and can apply the knowledge you have learned when trading because if you have the knowledge you will never fail to trade. I never join signals on Telegram because their predictions are unclear and inaccurate.
Actually we can join several Telegram Channels that provide paid signals to find out what coins they are saying. Then we can analyze ourselves with technical analysis combined with fundamental analysis. It is indeed difficult to combine the two analyzes, we need a long time. My advice never trust 100% of the trading signal channel.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: marcous on November 16, 2019, 07:22:51 AM
Yup, I've followed some signals but now no more. it must be very careful and need further research. no need for all crypto signals to be followed. because there are some crypto signal groups that only drive FOMO. we never know since when they bought the coin and at what price they have bought. remember risk management in the world of trading.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: doomloop on November 16, 2019, 01:47:13 PM
You should not rely or even trust the trading signals that you will be receiving from anyone because you don't know how they plot their entry and exit because it is not based on your knowledge and style. You should make a trading strategy by yourself so you will have no one to blame when things go wrong and you will improve if you will rely on yourself all the time through mistakes.

Some rich people do not want to stress themselves on things they aren't interested. I remember few years ago maybe 5 people asked me to handle a portion of their money. Either I can invest it short term and long term or to actively trade it in crypto or stocks or both. I always decline, I am not that good of a trader and investor. And I felt, I can be more focus when risking my own money. So I cannot really say anything bad on people paying someone to give them trading signals. It's for their own risk. I also tried it twice. The first guru was only good at the start and we ended in disaster. The second one I profited but I am hard headed and made my own strategic versions which didn't worked well. I then decided to take a break from trading. I only hold some coins and stocks but seldom do trades anymore.     
Experiencing the same thing when im still trading up with Forex and stocks where there are really some individuals which do really likes for their funds to be handled by others and they do just like to get net income with it but of course i dont have that kind of confidence with my trading system which its always been risky for you to handle out funds
which even you cant be sure on what would be the outcome on monthly basis.
If someone hires a person to handle his funds, it is an effortless way to make money. More or less, this is like running your own business. Someone is working for you and is accountable for producing a certain amount of profit. That is actually a smart way to work. The hired person will also get the opportunity to gain experience and polish his skills. If you are not confident with dong the job, there is no need to take the risk either.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: barota on November 16, 2019, 02:19:13 PM
whatever thos channel tradinng signals paying or free ;it can be  on sites internet and also telegram; not good and never trust any of him because they use traders or users who trust their fake signals or alert for making profit from other users like i sayed before. everyone must not follow or participe such those trading signals   


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: pundit on November 16, 2019, 05:19:14 PM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.

 I already posted on a different forum, so I’ll be quoting the post here so I don’t get tagged for copypasta. (https://cryptotalk.org/topic/19007-risk-in-using-trading-signals/)

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Most traders after a series of loses in the first few months of trading would go in search of trading signals from so called Professionals. This thread is to point out flaws in this trading option, and reasons why you should learn to trade yourself.
 

First, What’s a Trading signal?

Trade signals (trading calls) are a set of instructions you receive in real time that contains details of cryptocurrency to buy, what price to buy it at, the targets to sell it at and most importantly the correct stop loss to ensure minimum loss if the trade goes wrong.
 

But there’s always a BUT!


1. When using a trading signal, you have no idea how these signals were generated. If it actually came from a professional or just some random bot. It takes confidence to make a successful trade, and without confidence in the signal, there’s a high chance you’ll be losing.
 

This brings us to the next BUT
 

2. To ensure the trading signal comes from an experienced professional, people pay heavily for these signals. But even if these signals were right, the amount of profit made from these trades are small amounts compared to the amount you pay for the signals. You’ll have to trade using huge trading Capital to cover the cost of a the trading signal.
Does this sound familiar? Yes. Gambling. You’ll might get more chances Gambling than trading with these signals.
 

3. So, some traders (especially newbies) would prefer to trade using a free trading signal. But there’re no actually no free signals. They come at a cost. People who give these signals are paid by the project team, exchange or paid by large whales who want to dump their tokens.
You buy their dumped tokens and you’re left with no one to buy at the stop loss price.
 

4. The cryptocurrency market is very volatile. Profits could go as high as 400% in a few hours and dump to as low as 400% in few hours. Bitcoin, (the most traded cryptocurrency with a market dominance of over 60%) has risen by more than 5% in 24 hours, and up to 1,824% in less than 8 months. Same goes for its fall.

 

 These are just a few risks with trading signals. It’s important to note, that I don’t condemn the use of trading signals. There’re quite a good number of trading signals, but these are few. And you could never tell the difference. It’s worth much better to

- Take responsibility by making decisions yourself.
- Learn Risk Management Skills.
- Understand the process of cryptocurrency trading.
- Build your Trading Career.
 

Trading is more than just a signal, it’s a career. So you have to build it.


Trading signal services are another scams in financial markets be it forex market or crypto market most of the trading signal services will make your account into deep loss. There may be 2-3% of genuine market analyst who can analyze market correctly but most of the signal providers cannot do it.  Signal services providers have win win situation once someone subscribes to their services. If account is lost they lose thing rather they will get some fee and if account grows they get more accounts.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: boris singer on November 16, 2019, 05:39:25 PM
whatever thos channel tradinng signals paying or free ;it can be  on sites internet and also telegram; not good and never trust any of him because they use traders or users who trust their fake signals or alert for making profit from other users like i sayed before. everyone must not follow or participe such those trading signals   

try to join one of their channels, and learn with your personal analysis, then you will know where the difference is, it's about vigilance, and not about turning a blind eye to refuse. The point is that traders have communication channels for various signals, because a single trader is not possible to analyze many coins at one time. The worst risk is when you trust a signal without analyzing, this is the important part.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: alan2here on November 17, 2019, 09:14:09 AM
whatever thos channel tradinng signals paying or free ;it can be  on sites internet and also telegram; not good and never trust any of him because they use traders or users who trust their fake signals or alert for making profit from other users like i sayed before. everyone must not follow or participe such those trading signals   
All signals appearing at telegram usually don't have specific analysis for investors and the risk that it brings you is very large, so analyze yourself and make a more accurate decision. I have never followed any signal channel in this market because most of the signals they give have a failure rate of more than 80% and some coins may drop even more if market collapses.
It is not necessary for you to make a profit this way because there are many tutorials available on the internet right now and if you do your own research, you will greatly reduce the risks.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: ajeef on November 17, 2019, 09:34:58 AM
whatever thos channel tradinng signals paying or free ;it can be  on sites internet and also telegram; not good and never trust any of him because they use traders or users who trust their fake signals or alert for making profit from other users like i sayed before. everyone must not follow or participe such those trading signals   
All signals appearing at telegram usually don't have specific analysis for investors and the risk that it brings you is very large, so analyze yourself and make a more accurate decision. I have never followed any signal channel in this market because most of the signals they give have a failure rate of more than 80% and some coins may drop even more if market collapses.
It is not necessary for you to make a profit this way because there are many tutorials available on the internet right now and if you do your own research, you will greatly reduce the risks.

There are several paid trading signals group that explain their prediction with specifics analytical reason which is good for newbie to learn how to read the chart. But i think we can learn from the free source in the internet there are many of them. And also the bad site joining trading signals is we will be adicted and we don't have any skills to trade and we will always join them and paid the each month which is not good for our crypto career


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: EdenHazard on November 17, 2019, 10:13:04 AM
If we are talking about signals that are sold on paid channels, then I completely agree, most of these channels are complete nonsense, where people lose their money. I personally prefer to analyze the market myself, read the news on various news portals( Neironix.io, cointelegraph etc.), tradingview analytics and make decisions ourselves, rather than pray for signals from closed paid groups.
Most don't have any specific analysis when giving signals and this is not recommended when participating in the crypto market. Now a lot of analytical lessons for you and can apply the knowledge you have learned when trading because if you have the knowledge you will never fail to trade. I never join signals on Telegram because their predictions are unclear and inaccurate.
Never say never , even a professional trader can still failed making predictions and lost a lot.

But here's the difference between the one with a lot of knowledge and the other who know nothing but speculating all the time . First of all a professional knows how to minimize the risk instead targetting a lot of profit at once they tend to think and act based on the data. The newbies just put the buy/sell orders based on the feelings in other words more to gambling instead of doing trade.

I would say that there's might only 1% of professional trader who able to share the analysis through a product called trading signal and really do a legitimate trading signal business, the rest of it is just a bullshit trading signal services operated by an opportunist who trying to steal your money with 100% trading signal lies. I've got a lot of reports from my fellow traders who insist to try the trading signal... guess most of them ended in anger as it feels nothing has changed since they joined , the risk for you to get a scam signal services is more than 80%, don't do that unless if you really know who's the trader themselves.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Cherylstar86 on November 17, 2019, 10:49:10 AM
whatever thos channel tradinng signals paying or free ;it can be  on sites internet and also telegram; not good and never trust any of him because they use traders or users who trust their fake signals or alert for making profit from other users like i sayed before. everyone must not follow or participe such those trading signals   
All signals appearing at telegram usually don't have specific analysis for investors and the risk that it brings you is very large, so analyze yourself and make a more accurate decision. I have never followed any signal channel in this market because most of the signals they give have a failure rate of more than 80% and some coins may drop even more if market collapses.
It is not necessary for you to make a profit this way because there are many tutorials available on the internet right now and if you do your own research, you will greatly reduce the risks.

There are several paid trading signals group that explain their prediction with specifics analytical reason which is good for newbie to learn how to read the chart. But i think we can learn from the free source in the internet there are many of them. And also the bad site joining trading signals is we will be adicted and we don't have any skills to trade and we will always join them and paid the each month which is not good for our crypto career

Trading signals is quite good but it needs a reliable source that makes sense to each and everyone of us here in the world of crypto currency community. It's definitely a risk by those newbie in which they can easily believe. I hope each of us here must aware on those signals for the altcoins that they choose since market is still bearish and needs a proper guidance from users have already experienced.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: cryptothreads on November 18, 2019, 01:36:24 AM
whatever thos channel tradinng signals paying or free ;it can be  on sites internet and also telegram; not good and never trust any of him because they use traders or users who trust their fake signals or alert for making profit from other users like i sayed before. everyone must not follow or participe such those trading signals   
Since I join this market, many signal channels have been created and all of these channels do not have any clear analysis for investors. I think it's best to stay away and not trust any signals they give because the risk can be huge. Now there are thousands of videos showing you how to analyze this market so take advantage of that to become a smarter investor in this market.

Of course, I don't forbid you to join signals channels but make sure you can make a profit from that coin because if you lose, no one will be responsible for you.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: crossabdd on November 18, 2019, 02:36:59 AM
I have experienced points 2 and 3. and the initial signal I followed was point 3. Using a free signal, it was like fighting over a chair. because every admin gives information on pump coins. more than 1000 members make an instant buy. and the most unlucky is the last buyer. because prices are in the dump. then I thought, this is just the game admin signal that was bought before the information was revealed. after that I saw a paid signal. and it turns out the same as you said. it doesn't give a big profit. because signal professionals always take profits below 5%. it gives them an advantage because they use large funds. but for me it is very loss. because of the small funds. so at the moment I am sticking with my personal predictions. it's better, i can make a profit target above 10%


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Edraket31 on November 18, 2019, 08:59:28 AM
I have experienced points 2 and 3. and the initial signal I followed was point 3. Using a free signal, it was like fighting over a chair. because every admin gives information on pump coins. more than 1000 members make an instant buy. and the most unlucky is the last buyer. because prices are in the dump. then I thought, this is just the game admin signal that was bought before the information was revealed. after that I saw a paid signal. and it turns out the same as you said. it doesn't give a big profit. because signal professionals always take profits below 5%. it gives them an advantage because they use large funds. but for me it is very loss. because of the small funds. so at the moment I am sticking with my personal predictions. it's better, i can make a profit target above 10%

I don't know but we do have same situation in life, I've been there too, I actually tired at work and I really wanted to study trading but I can't focus much and my friend told me that there's a lot of signals out there, so I tried a couple of groups that are giving free signals, and thankfully I loss, because of it I realized that I should not rely on them, that I need to work for myself if I really wanted to earn. So, I gave time and removed all the excuses on myself.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Pamadar on November 18, 2019, 09:47:32 AM
I have experienced points 2 and 3. and the initial signal I followed was point 3. Using a free signal, it was like fighting over a chair. because every admin gives information on pump coins. more than 1000 members make an instant buy. and the most unlucky is the last buyer. because prices are in the dump. then I thought, this is just the game admin signal that was bought before the information was revealed. after that I saw a paid signal. and it turns out the same as you said. it doesn't give a big profit. because signal professionals always take profits below 5%. it gives them an advantage because they use large funds. but for me it is very loss. because of the small funds. so at the moment I am sticking with my personal predictions. it's better, i can make a profit target above 10%
After learning and realizing that it's far better to do things on your own instead of following those trading signals providers, the group owners or facilitator are the one that have a much higher benefits, since the people who are following already bought any coins that the admin already have
since it's still cheap, some might bring more artificial pumped to attract more followers to believe but quickly dumped after seeing good opportunities.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Vertex_ICO on November 19, 2019, 07:44:24 AM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.

 I already posted on a different forum, so I’ll be quoting the post here so I don’t get tagged for copypasta. (https://cryptotalk.org/topic/19007-risk-in-using-trading-signals/)

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Most traders after a series of loses in the first few months of trading would go in search of trading signals from so called Professionals. This thread is to point out flaws in this trading option, and reasons why you should learn to trade yourself.
 

First, What’s a Trading signal?

Trade signals (trading calls) are a set of instructions you receive in real time that contains details of cryptocurrency to buy, what price to buy it at, the targets to sell it at and most importantly the correct stop loss to ensure minimum loss if the trade goes wrong.
 

But there’s always a BUT!


1. When using a trading signal, you have no idea how these signals were generated. If it actually came from a professional or just some random bot. It takes confidence to make a successful trade, and without confidence in the signal, there’s a high chance you’ll be losing.
 

This brings us to the next BUT
 

2. To ensure the trading signal comes from an experienced professional, people pay heavily for these signals. But even if these signals were right, the amount of profit made from these trades are small amounts compared to the amount you pay for the signals. You’ll have to trade using huge trading Capital to cover the cost of a the trading signal.
Does this sound familiar? Yes. Gambling. You’ll might get more chances Gambling than trading with these signals.
 

3. So, some traders (especially newbies) would prefer to trade using a free trading signal. But there’re no actually no free signals. They come at a cost. People who give these signals are paid by the project team, exchange or paid by large whales who want to dump their tokens.
You buy their dumped tokens and you’re left with no one to buy at the stop loss price.
 

4. The cryptocurrency market is very volatile. Profits could go as high as 400% in a few hours and dump to as low as 400% in few hours. Bitcoin, (the most traded cryptocurrency with a market dominance of over 60%) has risen by more than 5% in 24 hours, and up to 1,824% in less than 8 months. Same goes for its fall.

 

 These are just a few risks with trading signals. It’s important to note, that I don’t condemn the use of trading signals. There’re quite a good number of trading signals, but these are few. And you could never tell the difference. It’s worth much better to

- Take responsibility by making decisions yourself.
- Learn Risk Management Skills.
- Understand the process of cryptocurrency trading.
- Build your Trading Career.
 

Trading is more than just a signal, it’s a career. So you have to build it.


Hey! I think if you don't have enough time on your hands, trading signals can be extremely useful. However, it's imperative that if you do sign up for a trading signals platform that you use the right one (i.e not a scam).


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: drachman on November 21, 2019, 02:16:57 AM
Yup, I've followed some signals but now no more. it must be very careful and need further research. no need for all crypto signals to be followed. because there are some crypto signal groups that only drive FOMO. we never know since when they bought the coin and at what price they have bought. remember risk management in the world of trading.
All of us when we were starting our journey in this market have made mistakes, and one of the most common mistakes is to believe that a signals group will help you to get profits in the market, it seems so simple and so profitable to take signals from professional traders and then make money with them, but most of those groups are not really interested in helping newbies to become better traders over time, the only thing they care about is to extract every single dollar out of them.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: conex on November 21, 2019, 10:56:36 AM
Don't fall for sites advertising how to make a fortune just by using their signals. It's much wiser to educate yourself and make your own predictions based on knowledge and experience. Would advise visiting sites as Altcoin Fantasy or Newscrypto.io. Wish successful trading day!


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Slow death on November 21, 2019, 12:06:03 PM
Hey! I think if you don't have enough time on your hands, trading signals can be extremely useful. However, it's imperative that if you do sign up for a trading signals platform that you use the right one (i.e not a scam).

And how will the person know if the signal provider is good or not? The signal provider may get it right a few times and the person may believe that the signal provider will be doing a good job. What people should do is study technical and fundamental analysis and do their own price analysis and forecasting.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: drachman on November 26, 2019, 02:06:19 AM
Hey! I think if you don't have enough time on your hands, trading signals can be extremely useful. However, it's imperative that if you do sign up for a trading signals platform that you use the right one (i.e not a scam).

And how will the person know if the signal provider is good or not? The signal provider may get it right a few times and the person may believe that the signal provider will be doing a good job. What people should do is study technical and fundamental analysis and do their own price analysis and forecasting.
It is impossible to know if the person that is giving the signals is any good and if they are smart enough they could deceive you to the point that you think they are infallible when that is not true, a very common scam is to give two sets of different predictions to different people one predicting that the price will go up and another predicting that the price will go down a minority of people will receive all the right signals and they will be convinced of their ability when it was just luck.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: adjed on November 26, 2019, 04:31:49 AM
In the Cryptocurrency space, nobody is out to hand you free cash for nothing, some people see free signals groups and they join without even asking themselves why it was created in the first place, for charity? I highly doubt that would be the answer if they bother to ask, people always wants to make easy money and would do almost anything to get it without thinking of the repercussions.

As for the paid signals groups, they evidently are not doing it for charity but have you stopped to ask yourself why they would be collecting that kind of small amounts from you when they have all the knowledge in the trading world? They could simply have used the funds they have to multiply their cash by buying all the best coin and making huge profits daily, without having to carry anyone along too.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: giltc148 on November 29, 2019, 11:54:17 AM
Taking all these risks into account, I decided to keep on using infobots only. To be honest, though this discussion looks like proof that crypto signals are pure evil, it is not actually the truth. The trick is that you shouldn’t replace knowledge with tools. For example, I am using https://t.me/CexIoInfoBot because of its feature of informing me about price changes. But I do realize that I can’t replace my knowledge on what to do with this information with any tool.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: drachman on December 01, 2019, 03:40:14 AM
In the Cryptocurrency space, nobody is out to hand you free cash for nothing, some people see free signals groups and they join without even asking themselves why it was created in the first place, for charity? I highly doubt that would be the answer if they bother to ask, people always wants to make easy money and would do almost anything to get it without thinking of the repercussions.

As for the paid signals groups, they evidently are not doing it for charity but have you stopped to ask yourself why they would be collecting that kind of small amounts from you when they have all the knowledge in the trading world? They could simply have used the funds they have to multiply their cash by buying all the best coin and making huge profits daily, without having to carry anyone along too.
When you begin to think about it it doesn't really make sense, but newbies never think about this, they are completely blinded by their greed and by their desire to make money that they do not really think through what they are doing and when you add that they do not have any knowledge about how to trade any market then scammers have a very easy time to deceive them and taking their money, it is quite sad but if you do not want to learn by reading you will have to learn by experience which is many times more painful.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: nicolas1979 on December 02, 2019, 01:41:42 AM
We already know about trading signals but like or not some people get lucky use this method. Nothing wrong when people use this method because this is their money their account their life. For people who want to learn very detail please don't use trading signal, try demo account take risk make time to fix your mistakes and keep going. Honestly people can do any strategy they like, as long they can take the risk and keep profit everything fine.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Polar91 on December 02, 2019, 02:30:26 AM
We already know about trading signals but like or not some people get lucky use this method. Nothing wrong when people use this method because this is their money their account their life. For people who want to learn very detail please don't use trading signal, try demo account take risk make time to fix your mistakes and keep going. Honestly people can do any strategy they like, as long they can take the risk and keep profit everything fine.
There is no big deal (negatively) in using trading signal if you are just starting. Even though you don't know how to use it very well, it won't disrupt your strategy but it will rather help you to understand the price action in the market chart. Every traders are recommended to use it because without it; speculating the market trajectory will be difficult as before.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: tonyvo2017 on December 02, 2019, 04:49:06 AM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.



Trading on signals or news is a real bullshit. I used to be a lazy guy who refused to learn and just wanted to make easy money or steal other people's ideas. but only after I realized I had 12 consecutive orders of continuous loss and from there I began to change my mind and study Tenhnical analysis myself. Now my profits have gotten better and I suddenly realize that people who are always following the news are like little lambs being led by signalers. it can be a big trap but the sheep would never see the trap until it caught!


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Savemore on December 02, 2019, 05:55:11 AM
In the Cryptocurrency space, nobody is out to hand you free cash for nothing, some people see free signals groups and they join without even asking themselves why it was created in the first place, for charity? I highly doubt that would be the answer if they bother to ask, people always wants to make easy money and would do almost anything to get it without thinking of the repercussions.

As for the paid signals groups, they evidently are not doing it for charity but have you stopped to ask yourself why they would be collecting that kind of small amounts from you when they have all the knowledge in the trading world? They could simply have used the funds they have to multiply their cash by buying all the best coin and making huge profits daily, without having to carry anyone along too.
When you begin to think about it it doesn't really make sense, but newbies never think about this, they are completely blinded by their greed and by their desire to make money that they do not really think through what they are doing and when you add that they do not have any knowledge about how to trade any market then scammers have a very easy time to deceive them and taking their money, it is quite sad but if you do not want to learn by reading you will have to learn by experience which is many times more painful.
Fake gurus and mentors are all over in the market, they keep giving an wrong information and ideas. Most of newbies are encourage to follow and listen to fake gurus because of their greed. The still not have enough information how the market works. But I'm sure that those people who have signal group will regret their decisions.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Edraket31 on December 02, 2019, 08:12:03 AM
In the Cryptocurrency space, nobody is out to hand you free cash for nothing, some people see free signals groups and they join without even asking themselves why it was created in the first place, for charity? I highly doubt that would be the answer if they bother to ask, people always wants to make easy money and would do almost anything to get it without thinking of the repercussions.

As for the paid signals groups, they evidently are not doing it for charity but have you stopped to ask yourself why they would be collecting that kind of small amounts from you when they have all the knowledge in the trading world? They could simply have used the funds they have to multiply their cash by buying all the best coin and making huge profits daily, without having to carry anyone along too.
When you begin to think about it it doesn't really make sense, but newbies never think about this, they are completely blinded by their greed and by their desire to make money that they do not really think through what they are doing and when you add that they do not have any knowledge about how to trade any market then scammers have a very easy time to deceive them and taking their money, it is quite sad but if you do not want to learn by reading you will have to learn by experience which is many times more painful.
Fake gurus and mentors are all over in the market, they keep giving an wrong information and ideas. Most of newbies are encourage to follow and listen to fake gurus because of their greed. The still not have enough information how the market works. But I'm sure that those people who have signal group will regret their decisions.

This is their way to earn more by spreading fake signals so that people can buy while they are all selling, so don't fall into this trap, this is really something that we should avoid about or else this will make us lose our hardearned money, better to do your own research and learn trading on your own as there is no way you cannot learn it as there's a lot of tools out there available on youtue and internet.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: TrevorS on December 06, 2019, 07:11:33 PM
This issue has been mentioned many times and this transaction is only suitable for lazy people. They are just waiting for the opportunity to buy coins cheaply, but they don't know that behind it is a whole bunch of sharks waiting to be eaten.
This is an unreliable way to trade. It is very risky and easy to lose money.

Why do you so categorically call these people lazy. I know the number of people who have earned their money by hard work, and later they don’t want to spend time studying trading, they are ready to give part of their money to get good signals. Indeed, in this way they save their time, which they spend on making money elsewhere.There are lazy people, it is obvious that they fall into the traps of scammers most often.
But do not generalize so much, it is not ethical.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: stomachgrowls on December 06, 2019, 09:51:10 PM
This issue has been mentioned many times and this transaction is only suitable for lazy people. They are just waiting for the opportunity to buy coins cheaply, but they don't know that behind it is a whole bunch of sharks waiting to be eaten.
This is an unreliable way to trade. It is very risky and easy to lose money.

Why do you so categorically call these people lazy. I know the number of people who have earned their money by hard work, and later they don’t want to spend time studying trading, they are ready to give part of their money to get good signals. Indeed, in this way they save their time, which they spend on making money elsewhere.There are lazy people, it is obvious that they fall into the traps of scammers most often.
But do not generalize so much, it is not ethical.

Not to be generalize but majority would really be considered.I cant say neither they are lazy or not yet there are really ones who do follow up trading signals but not fully but rather they do
put out also their own analysis.In short they do integrate other ideas with their own.You can classify a shady signal most likely happen on low cap coins which you know that it is prone to
manipulation but if we do talk about btc and other big alts then you can consider to look and analyze it.We are all speculators on here so its up to you to choose things which would be suitable or
would fit out for you.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Soots on December 06, 2019, 10:34:08 PM
When we relied on signals or some groups who shares their specific analysis, you won't be able to decide for certain actions. You might fall on wrong moves which eventually unpredictable, because some certain cases will divert. Your expectations will not meet the reality of the situation, and if signals will be the reference for every matter of perspectives we won't achieve our goals.
Always do more research and study deeply how the market changes the pattern, because someday it's worth for our hardwork.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: drachman on December 07, 2019, 01:40:51 AM
In the Cryptocurrency space, nobody is out to hand you free cash for nothing, some people see free signals groups and they join without even asking themselves why it was created in the first place, for charity? I highly doubt that would be the answer if they bother to ask, people always wants to make easy money and would do almost anything to get it without thinking of the repercussions.

As for the paid signals groups, they evidently are not doing it for charity but have you stopped to ask yourself why they would be collecting that kind of small amounts from you when they have all the knowledge in the trading world? They could simply have used the funds they have to multiply their cash by buying all the best coin and making huge profits daily, without having to carry anyone along too.
When you begin to think about it it doesn't really make sense, but newbies never think about this, they are completely blinded by their greed and by their desire to make money that they do not really think through what they are doing and when you add that they do not have any knowledge about how to trade any market then scammers have a very easy time to deceive them and taking their money, it is quite sad but if you do not want to learn by reading you will have to learn by experience which is many times more painful.
Fake gurus and mentors are all over in the market, they keep giving an wrong information and ideas. Most of newbies are encourage to follow and listen to fake gurus because of their greed. The still not have enough information how the market works. But I'm sure that those people who have signal group will regret their decisions.
But even if they follow those gurus as you call them it will be very easy to disprove their status if they just compared notes, if someone asked the question of how many of those that have followed the guru for years have changed their lives thanks to him you will find out there will be no one that could give such an answer and that should be the first indication that all of what that person is saying is not true and it is only helping one person and that is himself.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on December 07, 2019, 09:50:23 AM
When we relied on signals or some groups who shares their specific analysis, you won't be able to decide for certain actions. You might fall on wrong moves which eventually unpredictable, because some certain cases will divert. Your expectations will not meet the reality of the situation, and if signals will be the reference for every matter of perspectives we won't achieve our goals.
Always do more research and study deeply how the market changes the pattern, because someday it's worth for our hardwork.
and actually, if a group of analyst giving their trading signals to their member which could possibly amount thousands it will definitely alter what they initially predicted and create some kind of artificial pump and dump because many people are buying or selling at the same time which could be taken advantage of by the anaylst that have these trading signal service. People should actually take that into consideration before even joining any these so called premium trading signals.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: yanto@1977 on December 07, 2019, 12:47:05 PM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Gheka on December 07, 2019, 02:31:34 PM
When we relied on signals or some groups who shares their specific analysis, you won't be able to decide for certain actions. You might fall on wrong moves which eventually unpredictable, because some certain cases will divert. Your expectations will not meet the reality of the situation, and if signals will be the reference for every matter of perspectives we won't achieve our goals.
Always do more research and study deeply how the market changes the pattern, because someday it's worth for our hardwork.
and actually, if a group of analyst giving their trading signals to their member which could possibly amount thousands it will definitely alter what they initially predicted and create some kind of artificial pump and dump because many people are buying or selling at the same time which could be taken advantage of by the anaylst that have these trading signal service. People should actually take that into consideration before even joining any these so called premium trading signals.
Well, the case you say is possible because with a signal sharing for so many people, these predictions can be reversed when people's needs change rapidly but this is very rare when everyone who has been in this market for a long time knows that the delicious food won't be shared publicly. Besides, a group of people can only earn a small portion of the huge profit from pumping and dumping plans, so signals from groups still have a lot of chances to happen but we need to know where is the right place, more precisely, it is a consideration in the decision when facing the opportunities that others provide


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Karmakid on December 07, 2019, 02:34:47 PM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
It is not always that way. Trading based on a signal will not make you bankrupt most of the time because there are still signal groups online that are giving good trading signals. It is still better to rely on yourself rather than to others because when you master the way of trading then you can easily surpass the potential gains that the signals offer.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: btc78 on December 07, 2019, 02:59:33 PM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
we dont need to totally abandoned the signals instead we will use them as basis of our research,let us not forget that some of them has potential so with their signal and our knowledge combined?there is a chance of profiting right?


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: BitcoinHunt3r on December 07, 2019, 04:00:58 PM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
we dont need to totally abandoned the signals instead we will use them as basis of our research,let us not forget that some of them has potential so with their signal and our knowledge combined?there is a chance of profiting right?

I think it is better if we do that. But sometime good trading signal, or maybe which is really near to be always right in prediction is not free. And maybe people who paid for that wouldn't do anything else like more research and then just do what the trading signal said. Because some of them join trading signal because they are not want to do deep analysis in trading.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on December 07, 2019, 04:14:09 PM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
we dont need to totally abandoned the signals instead we will use them as basis of our research,let us not forget that some of them has potential so with their signal and our knowledge combined?there is a chance of profiting right?

Basis for what? Why the price of the token went up on that day because a certain signal group agreed to pump that token and dump? I would rather keep a record of those tokens that prices went up without the help of a signal group. I want to see which token has grown organically and not using artificial way to pump the price. If the project is really good, price will go up, naturally.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: South Park on December 08, 2019, 05:39:27 PM
I keep telling people that there is no easy money. You have to learn and the trade for yourself. Trade signals;
- Can be used to Scam you by paying for "premium signals" which are even non-existent
- Can make you lose a ton of money when you have 100% confidence in them and yet the market decided to go in the different direction
- Can be used to make you buy shitcoins and you become a shitcoin bag holder while the architects' sell orders get filled bu you.
- Can be used to make you participate in a pump and dump scheme unknowingly.

It's lazy people who don't want to learn how to trade who usually fall for trade signal scams.
This is not only about laziness if it was then I can assure you that those people will have not enough motivation to try to trade the markets, this is about a very dangerous combination which is laziness and greediness, the traders that prefer to use signals coming from other people to trade the markets not only are lazy they are greedy, they want to obtain all the benefits of trading without having to work for it and we know that stories like that never end well for those that are involved.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: dragon695 on December 08, 2019, 06:15:53 PM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.



- Take responsibility by making decisions yourself.
- Learn Risk Management Skills.
- Understand the process of cryptocurrency trading.
- Build your Trading Career.
 

Trading is more than just a signal, it’s a career. So you have to build it.

I really enjoyed this last sentence. It is for lazy people to learn and analyze techniques. Many people appear in this market just to hear the signals of professional traders but they do not have any knowledge of trading. This is really a very wrong thinking of freeloaders and lazy people. Hopefully after this article many people will wake up and spend more time getting serious with this work. Trading is really an interesting job if we learn more about it.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: posi on December 08, 2019, 07:24:29 PM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
we dont need to totally abandoned the signals instead we will use them as basis of our research,let us not forget that some of them has potential so with their signal and our knowledge combined?there is a chance of profiting right?

Basis for what? Why the price of the token went up on that day because a certain signal group agreed to pump that token and dump? I would rather keep a record of those tokens that prices went up without the help of a signal group. I want to see which token has grown organically and not using artificial way to pump the price. If the project is really good, price will go up, naturally.
To be honest, no market around the world will grow organically with the aid of an individual or a group which decision to investment huge fund not to mention cryptocurrency market which can be easily manipulated due to it been high volatile.
I don't support group signal but i think what we need is a genuine connection which will provide real information about the whales movement instead of joining a trading signals group which literally make people bankrupt.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Harlot on December 08, 2019, 08:12:07 PM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
It is not always that way. Trading based on a signal will not make you bankrupt most of the time because there are still signal groups online that are giving good trading signals. It is still better to rely on yourself rather than to others because when you master the way of trading then you can easily surpass the potential gains that the signals offer.

OP is probably discussing both paid and free trading signals and the risk that comes along with it. I gave up on joining trading signals especially the ones found in Telegram channels since they will offer you "free" signals on their channel yet at the same time they will offer you a "paid" or "premium" version of their system both of which are not worth your time. Most trading signals I see would just put a entry and target price and they don't really give you the analysis for the said trading signal which makes it more suspicious on why they come out with this coin and how they come up with this price. As a precautionary measure I'll just observe the price of their trading signal and only two things happen it didn't move or it will fall down which is really a bad sign for such service roaming around the industry.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: South Park on December 12, 2019, 06:02:11 PM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.



- Take responsibility by making decisions yourself.
- Learn Risk Management Skills.
- Understand the process of cryptocurrency trading.
- Build your Trading Career.
 

Trading is more than just a signal, it’s a career. So you have to build it.

I really enjoyed this last sentence. It is for lazy people to learn and analyze techniques. Many people appear in this market just to hear the signals of professional traders but they do not have any knowledge of trading. This is really a very wrong thinking of freeloaders and lazy people. Hopefully after this article many people will wake up and spend more time getting serious with this work. Trading is really an interesting job if we learn more about it.
If having a losing trade after losing trade and losing money that they cannot really afford to lose does not wake them up then I am not really positive that an article on an Internet forum is going to be enough to make people to change their believes about the markets, it may seem weird but people prefer to lose their money doing things their way than to admit their mistake and try everything that they can in order to change those senseless mistakes.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: carlfebz2 on December 12, 2019, 10:46:24 PM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.



- Take responsibility by making decisions yourself.
- Learn Risk Management Skills.
- Understand the process of cryptocurrency trading.
- Build your Trading Career.
 

Trading is more than just a signal, it’s a career. So you have to build it.

I really enjoyed this last sentence. It is for lazy people to learn and analyze techniques. Many people appear in this market just to hear the signals of professional traders but they do not have any knowledge of trading. This is really a very wrong thinking of freeloaders and lazy people. Hopefully after this article many people will wake up and spend more time getting serious with this work. Trading is really an interesting job if we learn more about it.
If having a losing trade after losing trade and losing money that they cannot really afford to lose does not wake them up then I am not really positive that an article on an Internet forum is going to be enough to make people to change their believes about the markets, it may seem weird but people prefer to lose their money doing things their way than to admit their mistake and try everything that they can in order to change those senseless mistakes.
You cant tell because people do have different mindsets towards things but mostly they dont really care enough on any articles or books
that do mentioned out recreation or advises.You are right where majority find things on their own rather than listening on whats being said
by others. It isnt bad though but hearing out useful words from other people is more worth than trying hard for yourself even if you are already losing too much.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Distinctin on December 12, 2019, 10:46:54 PM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
we dont need to totally abandoned the signals instead we will use them as basis of our research,let us not forget that some of them has potential so with their signal and our knowledge combined?there is a chance of profiting right?

Basis for what? Why the price of the token went up on that day because a certain signal group agreed to pump that token and dump? I would rather keep a record of those tokens that prices went up without the help of a signal group. I want to see which token has grown organically and not using artificial way to pump the price. If the project is really good, price will go up, naturally.
We should avoid trading any assets with less trading volume because the prices can be easily manipulated for that bump and dump groups will be enough.When a token follow this way then the end of that project's potential is not too far, sometimes it happens with the good projects as well but not every project which has good idea doesn't need to be successful so be smart as trader and don't trust these shitty groups which will trap you at one point.
These pump and dump groups are played by whales. Due to the fact that they influential in the market it is easy for them to take noob as their prey. Following signals in trading is really high risk and the big possibility of losing that is why most traders won't make this as a helping tool to become profitable and succeed in trading cause most signal users are suffering loose ends.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: AjithBtc on December 12, 2019, 11:51:04 PM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
we dont need to totally abandoned the signals instead we will use them as basis of our research,let us not forget that some of them has potential so with their signal and our knowledge combined?there is a chance of profiting right?

Basis for what? Why the price of the token went up on that day because a certain signal group agreed to pump that token and dump? I would rather keep a record of those tokens that prices went up without the help of a signal group. I want to see which token has grown organically and not using artificial way to pump the price. If the project is really good, price will go up, naturally.
We should avoid trading any assets with less trading volume because the prices can be easily manipulated for that bump and dump groups will be enough.When a token follow this way then the end of that project's potential is not too far, sometimes it happens with the good projects as well but not every project which has good idea doesn't need to be successful so be smart as trader and don't trust these shitty groups which will trap you at one point.
These pump and dump groups are played by whales. Due to the fact that they influential in the market it is easy for them to take noob as their prey. Following signals in trading is really high risk and the big possibility of losing that is why most traders won't make this as a helping tool to become profitable and succeed in trading cause most signal users are suffering loose ends.
Agreed, these pump and dumping groups were used as a manipulative tool by the whales who always tries to make use of the market according to their needs. This is possible to certain level, and to attain the same various tactics were played, and what we experience out of the trading signals is one way. Apart from this practices like negative news circulation, hacks and some panic statements will be revealed without any perfect data.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: whyrqa on December 13, 2019, 04:41:56 PM

Agreed, these pump and dumping groups were used as a manipulative tool by the whales who always tries to make use of the market according to their needs. This is possible to certain level, and to attain the same various tactics were played, and what we experience out of the trading signals is one way. Apart from this practices like negative news circulation, hacks and some panic statements will be revealed without any perfect data.
I believe that almost every cryptocurrency user who has been engaged in this activity for a considerable time and has experience in cryptocurrency trading knows that any trading signals do not give the desired result.  At least the existence of these signals has only one purpose, which is aimed at ensuring that specific people or groups of traders get the benefit, and not the user who decided to use the information for a successful transaction.  I have never seen information that someone really talked about the results obtained thanks to the signals, and all such discussions not only raise doubts, but are also aimed at drawing attention to these trading signals.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: wajik-tempe on December 13, 2019, 04:44:20 PM

Agreed, these pump and dumping groups were used as a manipulative tool by the whales who always tries to make use of the market according to their needs. This is possible to certain level, and to attain the same various tactics were played, and what we experience out of the trading signals is one way. Apart from this practices like negative news circulation, hacks and some panic statements will be revealed without any perfect data.
I believe that almost every cryptocurrency user who has been engaged in this activity for a considerable time and has experience in cryptocurrency trading knows that any trading signals do not give the desired result.  At least the existence of these signals has only one purpose, which is aimed at ensuring that specific people or groups of traders get the benefit, and not the user who decided to use the information for a successful transaction.  I have never seen information that someone really talked about the results obtained thanks to the signals, and all such discussions not only raise doubts, but are also aimed at drawing attention to these trading signals.

Yeah actually most of the trading signals group are the pumping group because they will together doing mass buy or sell to drop the price. If the trading signals group has big and solid members i'm sure it could move the price of a coin especially coins with low volume.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: ice098 on December 13, 2019, 08:48:20 PM
I keep telling people that there is no easy money. You have to learn and the trade for yourself. Trade signals;
- Can be used to Scam you by paying for "premium signals" which are even non-existent
- Can make you lose a ton of money when you have 100% confidence in them and yet the market decided to go in the different direction
- Can be used to make you buy shitcoins and you become a shitcoin bag holder while the architects' sell orders get filled bu you.
- Can be used to make you participate in a pump and dump scheme unknowingly.

It's lazy people who don't want to learn how to trade who usually fall for trade signal scams.
Agree, I do not use any trading signals or being part of their group because I believe that not all of the signals from them are true ,sometimes it will be a bait for us to buy their order , and also they will required us to pay for premium membership fee, though we can be good enough in trading we just need to study all the things so that we can be an expert trader.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Webberson on December 13, 2019, 08:56:03 PM
Depending on the signal provider, some trading signals seem reliable, while most are actually not. The risk of using trading signals solely depends on the individual. I think analyzing the market yourself is the best, so, as to differentiate between good and bad signals when you eventually use trade signals.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Hypnosis00 on December 13, 2019, 10:38:24 PM
Depending on the signal provider, some trading signals seem reliable, while most are actually not. The risk of using trading signals solely depends on the individual. I think analyzing the market yourself is the best, so, as to differentiate between good and bad signals.
Yes, it can be a sort of but we can't just rely on it. If we are aiming to succeed and become an expert trader, we have to build our own backyard, put extra effort to find strategies that we could use in our daily trade and not just keeping those signals that even it is coming from reliable source. Cause anything we do will also reflect us. Having those signals won't give us an assurance that could give us a long-term effectivity.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Boov on December 14, 2019, 11:11:11 AM
Depending on the signal provider, some trading signals seem reliable, while most are actually not. The risk of using trading signals solely depends on the individual. I think analyzing the market yourself is the best, so, as to differentiate between good and bad signals.
I have joined some trading signals and they seems legit , and sometimes helpful , why sometimes? Because there are times that they send signals too delay , but the only risk is the delay of time you need to monitor keenly the coins for you to sell in a good timing and price.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: iv4n on December 14, 2019, 11:35:32 AM
Depending on the signal provider, some trading signals seem reliable, while most are actually not. The risk of using trading signals solely depends on the individual. I think analyzing the market yourself is the best, so, as to differentiate between good and bad signals.
I have joined some trading signals and they seems legit , and sometimes helpful , why sometimes? Because there are times that they send signals too delay , but the only risk is the delay of time you need to monitor keenly the coins for you to sell in a good timing and price.

And most of them seems legit in the beginning, at least the signal providers I followed for some time. I never took any signal for granted, its important to check every information you got from any place in crypto, its full with scammers, people with wrong intentions. Sometimes good turn to be bad is what I wish to say, and that happens more often then people think it does.
In past few months I don't follow any trading signals, most of them are short time signals which are very risky, this market situation made me to have some mid term positions and even long, then to have short ones. Market is volatile, and for now there are no signs of recovery.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: Not_A_Rocket_Scientist on December 14, 2019, 01:31:24 PM
I have written an article comparing Signals and Trading bots: https://tradingbot.info/bot-101/trading-bots-vs-trading-signals/
Both signals and bots allow you to trade without special knowledge, but I think that bots is a more time-saving and stable option.


Title: Re: Risks with using trading Signals
Post by: South Park on December 17, 2019, 05:59:18 PM
Agreed, these pump and dumping groups were used as a manipulative tool by the whales who always tries to make use of the market according to their needs. This is possible to certain level, and to attain the same various tactics were played, and what we experience out of the trading signals is one way. Apart from this practices like negative news circulation, hacks and some panic statements will be revealed without any perfect data.
I do not really think that those pump and dump groups are organized by the whales, because an investor that is truly a whale doesn't really need anyone to pump and to dump the market, those groups are organized by dishonest people that buy huge quantities of a coin that no one really knows and they do it in such a way to not make the price to go up while at the same time they organize their group and when they are finally ready they tell their members of the group in which coin to invest, which is by the way the same coin that they have been buying for months, so pump and dump groups are not organized by whales but by scammers.