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Bitcoin price fluctuations this week has thrown light on the trading of Bitcoin, as BTC trading is supposed to be manipulated by traders. The media, including the famous analyst Willy Woo who pointed to the trend of market manipulation in the midst of deep studies.


Source: https://www.thecoinrepublic.com/bitcoin-price-analysis-traders-manipulating-bitcoins-market/

I am not an analyst nor a good writer myself but there is something not really good about that piece is written, seems to be very amateurish and this is actually a trend in many crypto-related online publications, there is that glaring lack of professionalism and finesse. Anyway, the topic is all about manipulation but then again there is nothing new or surprising with this. Manipulations have been the bread and butter of many traders and as long as the market is reacting according to their wishes, then so be it. And if manipulations can result into Bitcoin rising, I am all supporting the manipulators as they are working for my own commercial interest as well without me paying them even a cent as a salary. Now, if Bitcoin can be going down because of these manipulators then I will just be cool and relaxed as there is nothing I can do to sop them since they are not under my payroll. In other words, I don't have time to care of what manipulators are doing, let them have their day anytime.

Deep studies always find out that the Bitcoin market is manipulated to a certain extent. When there is a dump and the price is falling, there is manipulation. But if the price is rising, the deep studies are still claiming the same thing. What is not manipulated, after all? Bitcoin's price value is determined by the market demand, primarily by the traders. The whales have the edge but not the total control.

These deep studies are finding the same thing in almost everything. The crypto market is manipulated, albeit much less, just like the stock market and the forex market, and oil, arms, car, airplane, wine, fish, pork, vegetables, and even the elections.  

I don't think its purely manipulated simply because there are some traders who bought at the level of $8k and for them to make profit they sold early when we hit the $10k level last week. Whales can pump and dump the market, this is not new and I support traders who are making money in just a short period of time. If I were to trade, I will also play short because its the best way to make money right now, the pump and dump is good for them.

Yes there is no mistake of traders ad it's a part of their job to buy at low and sell at peak especially when they know that it's a manipulated pump by the whales to gain more profit as usual increase does not suffice their greed. Everyone who is related to crypto are aware of price manipulation and now we have to play accordingly to avoid any loses to us.

Price manipulation can't be prevented in the market. I also have noticed high trading volume in the past week and it's either manipulation or just pure demand and attention bitcoin has been getting with the recent news about adoption. Still though, it's quite impressive that it retains somewhere near $9k region and with the anticipated bitcoin halving, I'm also postive it would reach higher prices and break current resistance levels.

We cannot blame them for traders who manipulate market prices up and down because their traders have a slight profit, we actually don't know for sure now what caused bitcoin prices to fluctuate this week even though in your article saying something like that caused a market decline but I can't take guidance from the news because there is no clear evidence.

Traders buy and later decide to sell in order to make profits and that's just the way it is even in stocks and forex trading and unfortunately that also let's the price goes down when a lot of traders tend to sell at the same time which makes the value plummets.

Manipulation is everywhere in this world. Government related stuff and specialy bitcoin. Media is the biggest contributor to bitcoins manipulation, forcing people to believe in either negative or positive side of bitcoin. The life is always been unfair and theres always someone/something controlling everything.

Who else will manipulate the Bitcoin price if not the traders themselves?  That is a reaction to the OP's linked article.  It is not surprising that every trades are manipulated for a simple reason of gaining advantage to get more profits against the other traders. The simple setting a buy wall and sell wall is already a manipulation in favor to the person who is putting that order.

In addition, whales do often manipulate the market but in my opinion, it is for the sake of the betterment of the coin. Manipulating the cryptocurrency to make its market price increase is somehow beneficial to traders around the world. Thus, not all manipulation has its positive effects on the people. There are people who can manipulate bitcoin news and information to make their image better in front of the people. In such a case that it is only for their personal purpose, greed, and self-interest.

For me, manipulation should have positive effects (utilitarian) rather than protecting someone's interest in the market. We shouldn't allow negative manipulation so we need to pack ourselves a bunch of knowledge to filter out information that we get from people we don't really know.

The large traders are intentionally trying to lower the price of bitcoin for buying cheap. The recent rise and falls are due to whales buying coins on a low price and not buying on larger price. On every cycle they are accumulating bitcoin and they'll dump it when the real manipulation starts.

I think price manipulation is not a thing that is to be too surprised about. It is always possible in this market as Bitcoin is decentralized and the price is effected by the very big transactions.

Bitcoin price manipulation often occurs on the market, usually the whales who have large capital to make
price manipulation. Which can make the price of bitcoin suddenly go up or even suddenly go down. They
do it its purpose manipulation makes people become FOMO when prices go up and will buy bitcoin at high
prices. The opposite make people panic sell when prices fall. So from that when we enter the market do
a variety of analysis to be able to distinguish which is the original pump or down. We must not be exposed
to the trap of price manipulation by Whale.

let people say whatever because we all do not manipulate anything ,things that must be considered by the market are not easy to manipulate ,if it is easy then there is no loss for traders everything is profitable ,market price is not easy just by analyzing we need real evidence :D

This manipulation has become stronger since the CME and CBOE had opened. It gave rich businessmen a way to play with the price buying OTC and dumping on smaller, yet important exchanges like Bitstamp or doing the same thing the other way round to pump the price. At the same time half of their money is in futures where they're safely making money.

Don't panic people and don't follow manipulated trades. It's not a market trend when someone all of a sudden dumps a million dollars.

It's already a given fact, manipulation is here to stay. But it's two fold, it could either blow the price, just like what we see in April, from $3k then gradually we went 5 digits again. It was reported that this is a coordinate effort from whales back then.

On the other hand, there's also whales who wanted to pull the prices. So what we need to learn is how to swim with them in the ecosystem, rinse and repeat.

It is no big secret   ::) that markets are being manipulated by traders with big pockets. This is not unique to Bitcoin, because it happens with

every other trade-able commodity or shares out there. There are even organized cartels out there that are doing this on a full time basis, even with

old traditional investment options like Gold and Silver and Oil. In Bitcoin it is just so much easier, because a lot of exchanges are not regulated and

whales are trading large amounts on these exchanges to manipulate the price.

We are all aware how market is manipulated and we are all aware that there's a big whale here either he is an individual or company, but we know that they can manipulate the price if they want it to go down or to go up, so for us as a common investor, we should know when are we going to buy and sell too, if we want to make profit in just short period, but if you don't care and you are planning for long term then so be it.

Yes we need to go really active and stay focused so that we could make a right move as we can afford to win when the value increases by multi folds and at the same time we cannot risk losing our investment if the value dump as everyone wants to make profit through the market volatility and price manipulations.

The suddenly downturn and become rapidly surge back again the price of Bitcoin is not an extraordinary happening. It will always repeatedly happen that after dragging down there is an opposite reaction, not all the time Bitcoin pushing the price further low. Okay, let say that was made by the whales or those people who had a large pocket and can accumulate a huge amount of Bitcoin to play the market price. So, such purchases Bitcoin from those whales could be explained by demand from market participants.

Yes, they can manipulate but they had no power to full control of the price, once a strong demand was on the top and those crypto enthusiasts will holding their Bitcoin, whales are nothing can do. Or else we should learn how to ride those movements of whales.

Whales understand the emotions that still flowing around the market that's why they can easily create artificial movements in order to attract weak
investors to follow. If you will analyze and build your own grounds you won't be affected by this principle, although you can also have the good chance to work with those fluctuations if you do have spare money to invest. Set aside your holdings if you already have it from your wallet use additional money to reinvest if you plan to deal with the current dropped.

The least you can expect with it is you have lesser risk than taking the chances on big budget. I mean, that's already good to start with it hence no specific amount suitable for first investment, just invest what you can afford to lose. Simple as that.

Crypto could be the future so why not just buy and hold? That's more safe than doing trading likewise buy only those who are high on market capitalization.

that's true but it becomes a problem with bitcoin because the bitcoin market (basically the centralized exchanges such as Coinbase, Bitstamp, Kraken) are still pretty small and as a result a "whale" has a much bigger influence over the price in this market compared to any others.
then it all contributes to high volatility which slows down the adoption since it discourages people from using bitcoin when its price swings wildly sometimes.

So are you saying that the reason I have lost so much money on bitcoin is due to price manipulation. I have recently sold the last share of bitcoin hoping to get in, when they have reached a lower level again. How do you think the price will move from here?

/Adam
https://lydboggratis.dk/

where big investors can buy bitcoin prices cheaply before the boom, market manipulation like this doesn't happen occasionally on bitcoin may often be done but whatever I'm just a small trader after losing money before, I just refrain from going to the market now avoiding losses big again, so wait for a good time when the market starts to recover

There is manipulation in any market. Especially in the young cryptocurrency market. Bitcoin still has low liquidity, so manipulating the exchange rate is much easier than in traditional markets. Over time, when bitcoin will cost tens of thousands of dollars, volatility will no longer be so high.

Its a common thing to say that price is being manipulated to go lower the moment the upward trend seems not sustainable and that is what the crypto hemisphere has turned into. Most of the time the columnists are already at their keyboard ready to drop their article at any point in time to fit into the current narrative. I won't be surprise that the same set of freelancers are also singing the high songs few days back when the price of btc was way above the $9k region and planning having a touch on the $10k mark.

Yes if you allow everyone to manipulate the Bitcoin price then at the end we will find all the top cryptos value down due to huge amount of price manipulating.
If you want bitcoin to be raise up then we need to look for big investors turns toward the BTC and investment.

Unfortunately bitcoin cannot evolve evenly and such a fact exacerbates the vast majority of people. The fact if that all the financial assets are not inevitable. Bitcoin will fluctuate and it is inevitable fact. Bitcoin cannot grow permanently as well as be always stable. As far as I know there are some pegged currencies which quotes are controlled by governments but that is not the good manner for a country  because of hidden inflation and disbalance  in international payments. If you are not believe me you can examine it yourself to find out everything. So, what about bitcoin fluctuation I do not car because the efficiency of bitcoin are awesome it need to add much more popularity and bitcoin will conqueror  the world.

Price manipulation happens in both directions, bitcoin has been manipulated to pump many times in history too.
It's rather naive to think of manipulation as the bad guy that is the only reason crypto isn't mooning 24/7. Manipulation is both pumps and dumps that will cause other traders to have to take losses due to unnatural price movement.

The bitcoin market has always controlled by whales using manipulation tactics.
one thing you should understand, is this, Know when the whales are at work, make your profit from their doing simple as ABC is 😂

Traders moved the market thru their activities and that is not manipulation, and if you want for a coin to stay on its current value then don’t list in on an exchange. Manipulation is on every market, we can’t prevent that because people are want to earn more so they will do everything to get it. Whales are doing their job, we have to do the same and focus on good tradings.

The price is still held at a good level.

It's nothing like a new discovery. Even the 30% boom which suddenly came into the market was nothing but price manipulation. How else can you expect such a boom within a matter of hours. Cryptocurrencies market being anonymous is highly subjected to such manipulations. Most of the time exchanges are themselves indulged in these manipulations and there is certainly nothing you can do about it. Such manipulations will happen until there is a wide distribution of bitcoin in market.

We can point the blame on many things that can be a suspect for the manipulation of bitcoin's price. We can point our fingers on China who is currently using its advantage on being a large contributor on the crypto market and start showing the world its benefits while doing things that makes its price go low. We can also blame the Whales who are outsmarting the system by buying large amount of cheap bitcoin to hold and sell when the value gets higher as time passes by.

I looked at the title of the article and thought, "If they are talking about the market being manipulated, then they must have proof, let me see all proof that they have." I clicked on the link and read the article and it has no proof, there is nothing concrete, Is just what everyone comments (they are theories and more theories). What is the purpose of writing this kind of article without proof?