Bitcoin Forum

Hello All!

I would like to take this opportunity to introduce to you our sports and casino betting site Zanzibet

www.zanzibet.com

Our website is a sports and casino betting site. However, we have also been offering anonymous bitcoin betting for a relatively long period.

This option is advantageous as it has the following;

- easy to register
- automated deposit system linked to your account
- faster turnaround time for withdrawals and deposits
- no sign on fees
- minimum bet of $0.50 BTC equivalence
- no bet maximum

Bonus offers

-100% welcome bonus
-20% online deposit bonus
-Up to 20% weekly money-back loss
-5% referral bonus

We offer a wide range of sports and casino games on leagues from every corner of the globe. Further to this we continue to add more options and strive to improve in every facet.
If you have any suggestions or queries please let me know so that we take special considerations to you most valued contributions
support@zanzibet.com

I followed your link, and was greeted with following message:


Also, i really hate to see cloudflare ssl licences on delicate services like online casino's, and i fail to see the bitcoin logo with your accepted payment options...

If you visit the page, you can see the pop up of the Bitcoin deposit because we value and promote bitcoin customers and they deserve to know more, rather than to put an icon.

Wrong board!!!

This board is exclusively for trading discussions. Your website has nothing to do with trading
Better move your topic to : Gambling (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0)

Click on the move topic button on the bottom left.

Site support automatically popping up in the left corner and the button being in the left corner is also pretty awkward. Most people tend to be right handed or right eye dominant, and you're accomodating for more people by having that on the right side of the page.

Not sure if this is some sort of bug or if it's intended, but I get the alert '1 new message' on my Chrome tab when I go to your site, probably from the automatic support popup. Somewhat annoying to have that happen IMO, and it doesn't seem to go away until you start the support chat, but I understand you're trying to show users that you have active support.

yes, should move this to gambling board.
also upon registering, can a player just opt for email or phone number? am not really comfortable giving my phone number though i know its actually not really of a big deal.
when i opened your site, i have the impression that i am also in the sportsbet site. because of the colour theme i guess. their chat support is also on your left tab btw.
but in gambling, all is free to promote their project, as long as you are not cheating your players, youre good to go! good luck

Wow you've got e-sports on your book.And it looks like you're updated with the current tournament that's being held.

But it's kind of annoying with the popping on the left side, although I have already pressed the "x' it didn't closed. And when I go into the other tab that I have, it's popping up that I have a new message which I don't like. What if it was closed, it would be gone?

A quick visit and browse, the site is neat and user-friendly.

And I agree with the post above that you must remove that chatbox. Let the users click it. That notif also appears at the browser tab making it more annoying.

Every gambling site comes from a small so I will wait for the progress of your site before considering using it.

@Zanzibet, how about withdrawal fees?

I don't see here if it's free or you charge whenever we withdraw.

I just went ahead and checked your website. Nice design and layout, it looks very professional. I have a small question if the minimum bet is $0,50 worth of BTC then what is the min withdrawl amount.

It seems OP already fix the problem before. I visit the site and find that the design is simple and easy, and it doesn't have too long to open the full page. Perhaps, I can suggest you create a guest page so we can take a look at the inside of the site without register first. Besides that, I think we don't need to fill almost all the details of ourselves, such as our name, mobile phone number, country because I don't prefer to fills that with my real so I don't register. But all in all, your site is good enough, and I think you can attract more visitors to come and all you have to do now is promote the site. Good luck, OP.

Because few games on OP's site have restricted many countries. That's why they need to know which county you are from to prevent you can't play their games.

Overall, the site is very very clean and mobile friendly.

Don't you think it's better to drop your gmail support? Some users might be confused and scammed.


This is probably why there's no indicated withdrawal fees

I think that you are the last arrival and you have a long way to go before you really start to compete with well established sports betting sites.The first and foremost thing to prove is trust and this can only be earned over time by fulfilling all of your promises to the players in a continuous way.Then you can try to offer better odds,more betting lines and other promos to attract more players.Until this is done I would refrain myself to play at your site.

.50 cents in btc is the minimum bet ?  i think that was too high for me  . on the most gambling site that i visited the minimum bet is 1 sats but they do have a limit on max bet because the casino can go bankrupt is someone want to bet his own wealth and accidentally win but your site dont have a bet limit ? i find it strange  .  other than that , i like the idea of your bonuses  and there is a money back loss ? for every users ? thats cool while other site dont give a money back loss until  you achieve a vip status which was too dificult for me and to some to achieve .

Do you really offer 100% it's a big attraction, I've seen some dubious projects with similar offer why did you offer that huge bonus, Il like that you offer a lot of games in your platform, this is good for bettors who featured a lot of games, since this is a new betting site, it's best to launch signature campaign, majority of the gambling sites here have launched a bounty campaign when they launch their betting site.

Do you require full KYC for deposits and withdrawals? The ones that regular sportbooks require when they send you a letter to confirm your address etc.
I see that you need to enter your full name, birthday, address info etc.

How about payments from pre-paid cards, are those accepted? Pre-paid cards are not tied to a name. They only have the information of the issuing bank.

Yes, just for withdrawal requires KYC I just registered and saw it, KYC must be sent via this email support@zanzibetnew.com

And for withdrawals can not use bitcoin is not available, only Skrill and Bank Transfers can now,

huh, if it's like this in my opinion it's rather difficult it should be even easier to withdraw and deposit it.

For platforms that do had mostly that fiat merchants then its no surprise that these things will be always tied up with KYC.

I havent see Bitcoin logo in their frontpage but its been clarified that it do had that bitcoin deposit option but sadly it doesnt have withdrawal? It doesnt make any sense.
This wont really be appealing for most crypto gamblers.

0.5 cents in BTC just around 5k satoshi and i think it's pretty low because if you compare it to other sportsbooks.
while other website like nitrogen sports has 0.001 BTC worth 10$ for the minimum bet

The site seemed to be working in my end, it has a great UI actually but I will not easily give a try since from what I read here, the feedback is not good.
I suggest that you move this thread to this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0 and change your title, be specific by putting the name of the site.

The site has a good design in my opinion, and as some members have said, this support box is annoying, besides having a very large size is on the left side, and this is very annoying. something else I noticed on your site, this:

PAYMENT METHODS:

https://www.zanzibet.com/remote-assets/payments.png

you didn't put bitcoin, you don't accept altcoins?

The word real/personal email is quite confusing too besides that phone number. The first impression is "why it is even needed?" unlike other gambling sites that all needed to fill up is username and password, maybe there is a reason behind that, countries registration kyc type? However I was thinking what it have that other gambling sites now already have,it's better to specified that in the post.

Honestly, the website's design looks pretty similar to the one of a well-established sports-betting company Sportsbet.io. Dark background with white text and some stuff being in green - these things are common between the two. Moreover, even the navigation system has its similarities. Perhaps, you could comment on that, op? Would you call it a coincidence?
I also have a couple of questions about the ToS. For instance, what does it mean that the currency the player signifies cannot be changed? Can't a person use more than one currency?? Apart from that, if you require KYC for any withdrawals, you gotta realize that it can be a major drawback for some people. Moreover, what's that thing in the KYC about a utility bill related to a landline phone? In the last couple of flat where I lived there was no landline phone! I mean, who uses those nowadays?

They should put Bitcoin logo or symbol so that people who do visit on the site would able to know that the site accepts bitcoin.

He mentioned earlier that they do accept bitcoin,altcoin might be a good option too but for sure they wont consider it for now.

expertly written small growing site don't wait to get enough and much needed experience before wishing to be the best available site. Being optimistic is not the problem but being ambiguous

So you are saying that there are no bet win amount cap? I mean you can bet any amount? You know, its not safe for the house right? One user can come in the casino, place a very very very large bets with a high win chance. The user can eventually clean out the bankroll. Without any max bet limit, a lucky user for real can wipe out the whole casino by placing just one single bet!

You need to spend some time and understand how to better present yourself.
Take a look at the hundred other big sites in your niche that are advertising in this forum and take a look at how they are setting up their introductory page. Also called an Announcement Page (ANN). What you have here is not that great at all and your site is way too laggy, at least here from England. So do yourself a favor, take all the criticism from here and go back to the drawing boards and come up with a better game plan.

In that case I am afraid the site wont be on top of the list for Bitcoin users. The competition doesn't require KYC for withdrawals. Usually all you need to do is verify your email and phone number. If it's not possible to withdraw Bitcoin it is also a big minus in my opinion.

@OP
Is this something you can work on and fix it?

Welcome to the community,
If it's true then why it necessary to ask KYC for withdrawals and remove initial limitation ? Below quote taken from your terms and conditions.

Anonymous bitcoin betting website should not ask KYC verification, it should fully anonymous.

However, seems website is almost fine to me, I have talked even with live support and they responding as well. You should have social community like Telegram, so gamblers will have a place for discussion about their problems and demand. You should more proffesonal about your project. Create a proper ANN thread with good design, perhaps you need to buy copper membership for that.

The Website was so easy to use and it is easy to register a new account on the website also they have an elegant design. I could see the support was already introduced in the website and I think really approachable if there are problems in the websites but if they cannot use bitcoin for withdrawals in the site I think the website is forcing you to invests your money and bet your bitcoin the website in my opinion the users should easily deposit in the website and the same as withdraw the website could charge a reasonable transaction fee and that's already it if the website is restraining you to withdraw your bitcoin I will not trust the website.

If you want to present your site here, you should make a thread with a proper title like "Introduction to zanzibet.com" and not just a single letter "Introduction".
Secondly on the home page, under payment Methods, I do not find bitcoin written as the deposit option. However you accept the bitcoins.

I have not registered on the site but quit the idea of registering when I came to know that we cannot withdraw in bitcoins.
If we can deposit in bitcoins, then why can't we withdraw in bitcoins too ?  And this KYC is compulsory only for withdrawal. why ???

Very slow in my experience. I wanted to try out the anonymous betting stuff but unfortunately got off by the lack that I could barely navigate a few pages. Also, what are your KYC related policies? Do you have a terms and conditions page that highlights those policies?

I believe that aspect - KYC before withdrawal and no btc withdrawal will be reasons that will cause them to be behind with others. Logic says, if you can deposit bitcoin, then, why not withdraw your money via btc also. The OP should hear out users' suggestions here. Otherwise, he will lose some of the interested players on his site.

You can find their terms and conditions here
https://www.zanzibet.com/en/terms-conditions

and also find the privacy policy here.
https://www.zanzibet.com/en/privacy-policy

But I could not find any KYC related policy anywhere.

you can see it  here:

https://i.imgur.com/ZxXq6PJm.png

but I don't know why position it as a crypto casino when you cannot withdraw money in bitcoin , what is the point?
and KYC on ANY withdrawals sounds like an overkill to me
will certainly not be playing there , but the site itself looks neat ... maybe because its the splitting image of another bookies
wonder what OP can say about copying the site almost 1:1 

I know one thing .. I'd use this if it had a mobile App out. Anyone know of a good sportsbook co. offering an App? Good luck on the venture @Zanzi.

Reason why they require KYC is very similar to that Pornhub casino which also required KYC, its because they accept various payment methods like credit cards.

Credit cards and payment processors like Skrill usually have high levels of fraud and it would be easy for someone to make a deposit with a stolen CC and gamble and withdraw in crypto which is not reversible.

Regarding the utility bills as KYC, some places don't accept cell phone bills as utility bills. Reason why is because many places don't confirm the actual address of the cell phone holder and it's easy to just use some bodies address. For a bank bill or power bill, it's not possible.

yeah , they have to comply with the regulations , but the question stands , why support bitcoin if you require KYC 100% of the times
one of the main reasons people deposit and get paid in bitcoin is that they do not want to go though the KYC procedure
and here you cannot even get paid in bitcoin  , hope they review their KYC policies or I highly doubt they get many customers from this forum ( if any at all)

It would be great if the Casino would listen to the suggestions of some members here.  I myself would avoid this one if I cannot withdraw my fund in BTC.   Almost every crypto casino never asked for KYC when wagering in cryptocurrency unless there is some issue with the account. 


Indeed,  they could give exemption to those who wanted to deposit play and withdraw in cryptocurrency or give a reasonable withdrawal limit to these people who don't want to undergo KYC to avoid any issue of exploitation.

I agree, providing or giving your phone number just to register an account is what most people don't like about a site related to cryptocurrency.  Who would like when someone just send you an sms on your phone number?. It might happen if there's a situation where the phone numbers in a site is leak or someone hack the site (no offense about the site that it can be hacked) and get the phone numbers of people who registered using phone numbers.

They wont really get any crypto enthusiast gambler on here if thats the case and if they do strictly implement that KYC since they do accept CC reason then
its better to stay on where they do come from if they do focus out on fiat but somehow having btc deposit isnt a bad option but i really bet that
people wont bother to touch this site if that kyc is still there.They would rather play on other sites that doesnt have any requirement.

whats wrong? website is down or country is blacklisted?
https://i.imgur.com/BFP7Xja.png
I noticed that your website doesn't have any SSL .why?Isn't it risky without SSL?

It's really annoying to see those new sites who ask a KYC for there participants and I wouldn't touch that for sure since I will not risk just to gamble on that site. He should think more on this  since fiat option with KYC will not click to the people here since it came to the point that people are vigilant and betting crypto's is much advisable since the convenience and transparency is what the bettor gives a big plus for them to trust on certain company/sites.

Two different kind for deposit bonus seems good such as 100% deposit bonus for sport betting and 20% bonus for online casino but unfortunately according to the terms of bonus seems casino deposit bonus isn't available for bitcoin deposit which mean this offers only eligible to deposit used Skrill, Ecopays, Astropay or Neteller and i didn't see any wagering requirements for casino bonus

I'd like to suggest you to change the title of your topic as it does not attractive at all, at least give a simple attractive words so members in this forum will be attracted to read your topic. Now with "introduction" as the tittle, what kind of title is this? Do you think it is good start as a free marketing in this forum?
You are cooper member as well so add some image on the main post, show how your site looks like here.
Last but not least, so you are basically fiat based casino? How about KYC? Is it mandatory to do KYC in order to play in your site while we are using bitcoin?

Maybe they are just trying to extent out their service on adding up crypto but they done the wrong move yet we know peoples preference would
always that anonymity thing. They might already known such issue but at least people would have the choice to either play or not or if they are willing
to pass up those verifications but i doubt majority would say like "meh". lol

Reason why they accept Bitcoin but do KYC which most likely nobody will want to go thru in the crypto-community is simply because they want to get traffic off the bitcoin and blockchain hype that many companies these days are trying to profit off.

Remember during the 2017-2018 Crypto hype when people were buying bitcoin and cryptos like crazy. Basically there was a company called "Long Island Ice Tea" and they decided to rebrand to "Long Island Ice Tea Blockchain" or something similar. And what happened? They're stock went crazy right before a huge crash and they are getting sued right now by the SEC because the ice tea had nothing to do with blockchain at all.

This is why Pornhub casino didn't work out and why this website won't work out either.

Are you opening the right site ? The URL is https://www.zanzibet.com/ and it is opening at my end without any issues. You need to recheck the domain name. Secondly the site is also SSL secured.

He might live on a country which are blocked by this site. As https://www.zanzibet.com/en/terms-conditions it mentions

I just tried to open this site from Pakistan and it got opened without any difficultly. I do not understand if it is blocked in these countries how i am able to open the site ? When i try to make an account there, it evens shows my country name in the "Country list"  :D, so how this Blacklisted Territories works ?

Question is quite reasonable. If we could run this gambling sites from blacklisted countries listed by team then what does really mean Blacklisted? Suppose to be ban county IP address they keep it open. Its suspicious to me that it would make trouble during withdrawal. Because you have to verify your account before withdrawal. I think overall nothing positive on this site if owner doesn't like to change current system like deposite/withdrawal and KYC verification. Most of gambers do not like to submit KYC and that's how crypto gambling site becoming popular day by day.

If I am correct, you are from Bangladesh, although I am not sure. For your info, most of the gambling sites are banned from our ministry. You may not aware what Mustofa Jabbar said. Learn more here- https://www.thedailystar.net/country/btrc-block-176-gambling-website-in-bangladesh-1703398

blacklisted countries usually are blocked on IP basis , but many sites fail to identify it correctly
so your geolocation could be Pakistan but you show as a different country to their software
if I were you I would not gamble at the site ,simply because in addition to their draconian KYC policies
you are most likely to get banned even if you send them KYC ( thats if you manage to win there , of course ) and they will have the right to do so because it says in their TOS
but once again , if your country is blocked you should not be able to access the site first place , they must fix this or explain their policies in regards to the blacklisted countries better
maybe this blacklist is working for  certain providers like Netent above , or maybe it is a global list ,I cba to dig through their TOS thoroughly , to be brutally honest with you
there are plenty non KYC bitcoin accepting casinos around ,why bother

agree! with countless online gambling sites in this forum, you can always have a good option where to go to.
dont insist if you are under their blacklisted territories because doing so will only give you headache later if in case you will play with them.
but surprised that HK, SG are included on their blacklisted countries.

I visited your site.. I see you have a very interactive game on the CASINO feature, and I also see that you already have a license from the Curacao game license, good luck with your gambling site.

---

Btw @OP.. You must change the opening title of this thread "introduction" to the name of your site.

Generally even the announcing post doesn't look appealing at all. OP should try taking a look at Announcements of different gambling websites and projects around, and then he should get an idea and motivation to spice up Zanzibet's ANN. I see he is already a copper member, and he is not using the privilege of copper membership to the fullest

If he can not design a nice ANN by himself, then he should try to hire one of the good ANN designers in the forum.

Make sense tho. While it seems they are not bother by the fact that kyc could be the hindrance as it's very unlikely for a gambling site to have this. Likewise, we shouldn't be bother by it like seriously there's none or at least few will permit this or better to just stay away from the site, isn't it?

Spare him as obviously he doesn't know anything about it moreover how important the first impression is.