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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: KTChampions on November 07, 2019, 01:03:13 PM



Title: Cheating, merit abuse, buying accounts and evading a ban. Reviews required.
Post by: KTChampions on November 07, 2019, 01:03:13 PM
First group:

PavelRostov (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1616153)              Full Member
Incognito01 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1410604)              Full Member
EkaterinaT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1428236) banned    Full Member
Avatar2030 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1410806)              Full Member
istklin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1052765)                      Full Member

Second group:

Real14Hero (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=498430) Trust: +0/=0/-2  Hero Member
NUKA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1827060)                               Jr. Member

Quote from: istklin
#Proof of Authentication
Signature campaign
Bitcointalk username: istklin
Translate Whitepaper URL: https://drive.google.com/file/d/18QqbexIb5UVOfWoC2vFIeb4FGYOXapzX/view
Telegram UserName: @Ekaterina T
ETH adress: 0xb214a5753E8D17031EFA964E1F23baCC3855FBB6
http://archive.md/Gf9su

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10/10/2018 4:39:49 PavelRostov Full Member Ekaterina T
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FEE323K4rviEvcoVL1z-8XAkXDI-OXE4AU5N1ty4QAU/edit#gid=601472951

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018 18:09:18   Incognito01 Full Member @Ekaterina T
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DebDwBXHJ1s2doWIm23gOrt9GfuP1Avq2Hwv1sS2ez8/htmlview

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04.26.18 Ekaterinat Full Member Ekaterina T
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GM131ATqy8rCF5iZ3cm1YwwdbXT8gkTiVQ4t-VvHDtQ/edit#gid=608952695

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1/9/2018 9:13:23 Avatar2030 Jr. Member ist klin
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X5rOHby4ShgJr1Fb_WsyHeBKuVAnmKjT0_kVFwaeMDg/edit#gid=587292998

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28.04.2018 11:27:16 Incognito01 Full Member istklin@gmail.com
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rzJv_9evSqotTm31hyyh1uHNUOGo_wS_EwO4Eat2RwU/edit#gid=1404499255

Trying to cheat OAX bounty:
https://i.imgur.com/CppC3n1.png
+ PavelRostov # 611
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-1U7sGN3Kcyf4V2c4hmsvXLLzKtL9h-duB1S2KQWjBY/edit#gid=1549572816

Merit abuse:

https://i.imgur.com/HFQASGq.png

Etc. Given the fact that one of the accounts is banned, everything is quite simple here.

The second group of accounts is a more complex case:

#Join Airdrop
Twitter Username : @nuka_cool
Facebook Profile : nuka.musinov
Telegram Username : @nukakrg
Bitcointalk Username : nuka
Twitter Profile Link : https://twitter.com/Nuka_cool
Facebook Profile Link : https://www.facebook.com/nuka.musinov
Bitcointalk Profile Link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1827060
ERC20 Wallet Address : 0x8321c61f6Ca4018B7a5350c6Ef0E97ce623D722a

Retweet and like the tweet :https://twitter.com/community_token/status/1009124094615277568
Share And Like : https://www.facebook.com/nuka.musinov/posts/790340227836966
http://archive.md/caRRf
#Proof of authentication

Joined: Telegram/ Facebook/ Twitter/ Linkedin
Twitter url : https://twitter.com/Nuka_cool1
Facebook url : https://web.facebook.com/nuka.musinov
Linkedin url: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nuka-musinov-696495160
Telegram username: @nukakz
http://archive.md/TQawK
#Proof of authentication

Bitcointak link :   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1410604
Bitcointak Username: Incognito01
Telegram Username:   @nukakz
ETH Address: 0x8321c61f6Ca4018B7a5350c6Ef0E97ce623D722a
Email Address: egorkanukonya@gmail.com
http://archive.md/bzpIx

Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068027.msg48602533#msg48602533), Incognito01 praises the project that was made by NUKA http://archive.md/1z0tA
If we look at bpip (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Incognito01) Incognito01 we can easily understand what’s the matter - the account was sold to buyer NUKA.
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2018-11-26 5:15:00 PM   password changed

The Real14Hero account was also purchased by NUKA.

February 10, 2019
Quote from: Real14Hero
#Proof of authentication
Bitcointalk username:  Real14Hero
Bitcointalk link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=498430
Telegram username: @Samyan

#Join Twitter Campaign:
Twitter Link:
https://twitter.com/Nuka_cool1
http://archive.md/9skd3

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2018-11-20 11:28:20 AM   password changed
bpip (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Real14Hero)

The fact that the Real14Hero account was sold can be seen in the reference (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5073956) for his negative trust. A loan was taken from this account before selling.

With the first group of accounts, everything is clear.
I want to hear the opinion of the community regarding the second group of accounts. Obviously, NUKA should get a negative tag for the purchase of accounts, but should he get a ban for buying an account that evades the ban?


Title: Re: Cheating, merit abuse, buying accounts and evading a ban. Reviews required.
Post by: Avirunes on November 07, 2019, 03:46:46 PM
With the first group of accounts, everything is clear.
I want to hear the opinion of the community regarding the second group of accounts. Obviously, NUKA should get a negative tag for the purchase of accounts, but should he get a ban for buying an account that evades the ban?

I don't think so. Users behind (before account selling and afterwards) are both different. A ban is to penalize the user who breaks the forum rules and I don't think NUKA did something that broke the forum rules. However I feel like the account that is evading ban should be banned at least (i.e the accounts listed in first group of accounts). This should be done atleast to give a lesson to others on risks that comes associated with buying an account.


Title: Re: Cheating, merit abuse, buying accounts and evading a ban. Reviews required.
Post by: KTChampions on November 08, 2019, 12:12:28 PM
With the first group of accounts, everything is clear.
I want to hear the opinion of the community regarding the second group of accounts. Obviously, NUKA should get a negative tag for the purchase of accounts, but should he get a ban for buying an account that evades the ban?

I don't think so. Users behind (before account selling and afterwards) are both different. A ban is to penalize the user who breaks the forum rules and I don't think NUKA did something that broke the forum rules. However I feel like the account that is evading ban should be banned at least (i.e the accounts listed in first group of accounts). This should be done atleast to give a lesson to others on risks that comes associated with buying an account.

I agree with you.
But now the question arises - should the account (Incognito01) that changed the owner be banned? After all, the current owner did not commit a corresponding violation of the rules of the forum.


Title: Re: Cheating, merit abuse, buying accounts and evading a ban. Reviews required.
Post by: YOSHIE on November 08, 2019, 02:25:50 PM
the current owner did not commit a corresponding violation of the rules of the forum.
Let's see, to these two accounts @ Incognito01, @NUKA.

Case #2

Accounts Connected:

1. Incognito01 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1410604)
2. NUKA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1827060)

Telegram username: @nukakz
Eth Address : 0x8321c61f6Ca4018B7a5350c6Ef0E97ce623D722a

http://archive.is/o8QEn

Bitcointak Username: Incognito01
Telegram Username: @nukakz
ETH Address: 0x8321c61f6Ca4018B7a5350c6Ef0E97ce623D722a
Email Address: egorkanukonya@gmail.com

http://archive.is/bzpIx

Related Addresses:
Code:
Telegram Username: @nukakz
ETH Address: 0x8321c61f6Ca4018B7a5350c6Ef0E97ce623D722a

Miscellaneous:

@ Incognito01, @NUKA, committed violations in the campaign, they had an affair with an Alt account in the same campaign.

Proof:

Topic: 🚀[BOUNTY]MINDSYNC.AI (SUCCESSFULLY ENDED)🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5077069.msg48448002;topicseen#msg48448002)

http://archive.is/o8QEn

Topic: 🚀[BOUNTY]MINDSYNC.AI (SUCCESSFULLY ENDED)🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5077069.msg48893054#msg48893054)

http://archive.is/bzpIx


Title: Re: Cheating, merit abuse, buying accounts and evading a ban. Reviews required.
Post by: Avirunes on November 08, 2019, 03:35:44 PM
With the first group of accounts, everything is clear.
I want to hear the opinion of the community regarding the second group of accounts. Obviously, NUKA should get a negative tag for the purchase of accounts, but should he get a ban for buying an account that evades the ban?

I don't think so. Users behind (before account selling and afterwards) are both different. A ban is to penalize the user who breaks the forum rules and I don't think NUKA did something that broke the forum rules. However I feel like the account that is evading ban should be banned at least (i.e the accounts listed in first group of accounts). This should be done atleast to give a lesson to others on risks that comes associated with buying an account.

I agree with you.
But now the question arises - should the account (Incognito01) that changed the owner be banned? After all, the current owner did not commit a corresponding violation of the rules of the forum.

Yes he should be since he is related with all the accounts in Case 1 as you've mentioned and one of them is banned but then again depends on how much mods are convinced with the proof of connection of those accounts since spreadsheets forms are open and anyone can fill them so there is no surety that the actual owner filled that.


Title: Re: Cheating, merit abuse, buying accounts and evading a ban. Reviews required.
Post by: KTChampions on November 08, 2019, 05:18:20 PM
the current owner did not commit a corresponding violation of the rules of the forum.
Let's see, to these two accounts @ Incognito01, @NUKA.
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You are right, the violation in the form of bounty cheating is obvious and for this violation these accounts must be tagged. I meant something else - NUKA did not commit (seemingly) violations that would lead him to the ban.

I agree with you.
But now the question arises - should the account (Incognito01) that changed the owner be banned? After all, the current owner did not commit a corresponding violation of the rules of the forum.

Yes he should be since he is related with all the accounts in Case 1 as you've mentioned and one of them is banned but then again depends on how much mods are convinced with the proof of connection of those accounts since spreadsheets forms are open and anyone can fill them so there is no surety that the actual owner filled that.

As for google tables, they are from official sources and they are read only:
✅[BOUNTY]💰💰[FINANCEX EXCHANGE]💰💰 - EXCHANGE MADE SIMPLE (8,5M REWARD)✅ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5029822.0)
http://archive.md/gW6JQ

[BOUNTY] arawtoken.io - Phase 1 Completed - Phase 2 - $500K in Rewards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3602568)
http://archive.md/p2kLJ

[BOUNTY][PRE-ICO+ICO] 🔴🔴🔴 SETHER 🔴🔴🔴 SETH Bounty Campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2453487.0)
http://archive.md/3MbwC

[BOUNTY]WORLDEX- SOFTCAP ALMOST REACHED- 400,000 WDX! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3417034.0)
http://archive.md/OgJ9Q

Only Ax1 spreadsheet was found through a search, but it is logical that Ekaterinat has a Ekaterina T telegram.

As for the ban evasion it is difficult case. If Incognito01 account did not evade the ban and was sold, and after that became active, then there’s nothing to ban it. This is if we reason formally. I think that an explanation of the moderators is needed here.
Maybe it’s worth clarifying this question in Meta? Not regarding this case, but in general.


Title: Re: Cheating, merit abuse, buying accounts and evading a ban. Reviews required.
Post by: Avatar2030 on February 14, 2020, 06:54:01 PM
Why did you give me the red trust???Are you out of your mind???What are you all doing here???What is a negative trust for?It's not my username and not my wallet.!!If it was mine before, it was a long time ago!


Title: Re: Cheating, merit abuse, buying accounts and evading a ban. Reviews required.
Post by: logfiles on February 15, 2020, 04:16:59 AM
Why did you give me the red trust???Are you out of your mind???What are you all doing here???What is a negative trust for?It's not my username and not my wallet.!!If it was mine before, it was a long time ago!
Why are you even asking questions and trying to pretend to be innocent?
The evidence presented is pretty clear to me. Merit transactions between the suspected accounts and use of the same username can't be a coincidence. Just calm yourself down and wait for the ban to take effect.