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It always have been my 'wet dream' to bet on sports without any risk involved. During the past few years I tried out many things to decrease or even exclude the risks of loosing money. I have tried value betting, arbitrage betting, system betting and some other things. But at the end every strategy had its issues so it wasn't what I was searching for.

But now I found a way how I can bet without risking to loose even a single penny. I can put 100s of Dollar in weekly sports bets with the guarantee to get back all the money I wagered even when every bet goes wrong. So this way of betting will guarantee you 100% sure profits. cause your stake back is guaranteed and unlimited. So every dollar you win is pure profits. This is not a fast rich opportunity but you can make real profits.

The only disadvantage is that the platform that offers this opportunity does not accept crypto payments and they do require a kyc procedure.
But for every problem there are solutions. So I am thinking about creating a group and do this together. I have a fully verified account over there.


How in earth can you bet risk free?


Read this carefully cause this is the only way in the world to bet risk free!!!!

I am a syndicate captain on that platform and one of the privileges of being a captain is that you can earn a 10% rebate on all your personal created syndicate pools. This rebate is based on your total value of personal created syndicates in the previous week. As a captain you are guaranteed a 5% rebate from the first syndicate you create and this increases to 7.5% when placing more than 250€ and the full 10% if you place over 750€ in total value.
There only is 1 obligation for syncicate captains. this requirement is that as a captain you must at least fund your own syndicates with a minimum of 10%. This means if you create a 25€ syndicate, I as syndicate captain, need to fund that syndicate with a minimum of 2.5€.


And this is the key of my risk free betting method. I first didnt believe it but I had contact with their support and they confirmed it indeed worked this way and that the rebate amount is unlimited. Just check out the example and then you understand.


Example

I have 500€ in my captain account.

I go through the available syndicates and after selecting the pools I want to join I create 10 syndicate with each a value of 750€. In every syndicate I make the minimum 10% captain contribution. So in total I add 75€ to all the syndicates.

So after placing the syndicates my balance is 425€ (500 minus the 75 I added to the syndicates)

But guess what. Because I placed a total of 750€ I qualified for the 10% captain rebate. And guess what the value of the 10% rebate is exactly the same as what I have put in the syndicates myself. Total amount of the syndicates is 750€ so I qualified for the 10% rebate. 10% of 750€ means a rebate of 75€.

And thats the magic about this. I paid 75€ min contribution to my own syndicates. And because I qualified for the 10% rebate I receive back 75€. So guess what I own 10% of 750€ total value in betting tickets entirely risk free cause the rebate is equal to my personal contribution.




Lets say 1 of the tickets made a 500€ profit. Then my end balance will be 550€

500€ start - 75€ captain contribution -> 425€
500€ winnings/ 10%                        -> +50€              550€ end  balance
10% rebate                                    ->  +75€

Lets say all bets were lost. Then my end balance will exactly be the same as my start balance

500€ start - 75€ captain contribution -> 425€
0 winnings                                       -> + 0€               500 end balance
10% rebate.                                    -> +75€



So no matter what happens in the bets there are 2 possible outcomes. Or I end session in profit or I end session break even. What do you think about that? Is this a risk free betting method or not?
And I am not talking bullshit. You can contact their support yourself and they will confirm that captain are able to gamble 'for free'

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But like I said unfortunately this platform does not offer crypto payments and they do require a kyc verification which include id , proof of address and occasionally proof of your resources.


So there are 2 opportunities that you can benefit from. I dont know if I can advertise a site in the gambling discussion section. so that why I dont mention the site here.

·If you do not mind gambling with fiat and do not mind running through a kyc procedure then you can sign up and become a captain yourself.

·If you rather gamble with crypto and want to stay anonymous you can join our group and use your crypto. We can place all bets on your behalf through our verified account.




At this moment we also are looking for people that have a lot of knowledge of horse racing, NBA, NHL and NFL to become part of our group and start betting risk free.

I think this it's just another scam method.

However, if you feel the betting method was 100% guaranteed and they will never lose you can use it by yourself. We already have some scam method like this who offering a guarantee service tipster its an old method service for a scam dude, and other methods like script too. For me service like that its just the same service as Ponzi scheme who offered us a guaranteed profit if we invest on their platform.

Always things realistic, if they never lose the gamble/game why they need to invite somebody to join them? They can make money by themselves.

What's the name of the site?

This service that you're offering should be in IBG board or in services. It doesn't have anything to do with cryptocurrency gambling, you're just asking for money from other people. You're saying the site doesn't even support crypto.

Not to be judgemental but I haven't seen any gamble that has 100% win rate, it is just to impossible, no matter how good the teams you are betting own there will always a time that they will lose so I doubt if this scheme really works. Well to those who want wanna try then try it at your own risk, just make sure you are ready for the consequences.

You have written a lot here about your break-even strategy. But in any case, someone must bear a loss when you do not correctly place a bet. Maybe you need to show the address of the site so that everyone can see where the error is made.

In my opinion, this is a networking syndicate because you will need a team to certainly done this let's say this method can be possible if done correctly but can you be so sure if the start money will be 500€ how can you be so sure it will end up with 500€ still, you are trusting the one that is playing gambling, what if he would loss his emotion and try to still gamble using that 500€ and what proof can you give us that this syndicate would not run our money? Because the name itself sounds very suspicious as well, Sorry but if there will be proof for people to really joined and post it in here I will then believe you with your shenanigans.

A simple logic where anyone should think off first!

This is the only line that would answer all of those people who do have that guaranteed thing.Thinking off logically if they do had that 100% guaranteed money making
thing then they wont share this out to public but well we do know that theres no such thing about guaranteed thing on this world specially on sports betting.
So be cautious for newbies out there who do tend to join up to these so-called syndicate.lol

I agree that it should be in service board. It may be consider as a gambling discussion thread since it is about betting a game like nba, boxing and other sports that you can bet. In my opinion, this thread is like a tipster thread but you won't be the one to bet. I don't find this as a recommended thing to do since there are tipster that you can check and not even a single site is mentioned on what site will be used to place bets.

ok ia m not luring in people. I am just showing there is a way to bet on sports risk free.

You can all check out on colossusbets.com (http://colossusbets.com). It is a very well reputed sited with UK gambling license.

You should check out their promotions. One of the promotions is the maximum of 10% rebate for syndicate captains.

And if you make a simple calculation. If you get 750€ or more total value in syndicates filled, you as captain receive a 10% rebate of the total value.
If you read a little further then you notice that the minimum contribution of a captain is 10%.

So if you put in only the 10% minimum captain contribution and you are able to get at least 750€ of syndicates filled you actually receive back the money you put in yourself.

just check out their website. Its far from a scam. they are running for years already. paid out over 30 million GBP and operate under a heavily controlled UK gambling license.

Check the article https://captain.colossusbets.com/?utm_source=CB.com%20Footer (https://captain.colossusbets.com/?utm_source=CB.com%20Footer)

https://i.imgur.com/8MwKcWQ.png


An extra reply. I never said this is a 100% winning method. I only mentioned it is a 100% risk free way. there are of course some requirements. to get the full 10% rebate you need to get 750€+ filled syndicates on a weekly basis. And if you put more than the minimum 10% yourself to your syndicates then of course the amount above is at risk.

I only said if you manage to get sold 750€+ in syndicates and you contribute the minimum amount then you as captain get back your stake as a rebate the week after.

At first I was confused with the syndicates and the rebates but after checking the sites FAQ I slightly understand how it works. It's a group bet that you need to fill up to that certain amount.

It's not similar to a tipster, it seems like mutual betting I think you can still get to pick which outcomes you prefer but the odds or payouts are fixed to a specific amount depending on how many outcomes you pick on your tickets.

Indeed it’s not tipping. As captain you can play solo or you can create/join syndicates. It actually is mutual betting like you say.
Prob you also found out that there is a possibility to bet entirely for free as a captain because of the rebate.

But you can only bet for free if you achieve the gold rank every week by reaching a total of 750$+ filled syndicates and not adding more than 10% to your own syndicate tickets

Very interesting op. Decided to do some research on Colossus bets(Never heard of it till now) and observed that they have been around for sometime with decent reviews overall. They basically encourage accumulator style mutual bets with slightly better chances.

Can understand why some posters including me are skeptical about your 'Guaranteed' winning system though I am interested in this syndicate system of yours, but I would like to know what the minimum investment is in your group(In crypto obviously)? Also, I focus primarily on Soccer and Cricket bets.

This is also not a risk free betting,from what I understood you invest in a pool and hope to get back more than you invested by winning soccer bets or any other form of bets.I don’t think will work in the long run as no one keeps winning in the long run even in sport betting.

I end up always to using the same question,if this is a 100% win method why don’t the op and his friends take a bank loan and start playing themselves?

Simple because there is no risk free betting.

A 100% risk-free? Does such thing exist in gambling? Because as far as I know, when you bet or gamble, it's a risk already.  That's why it's called 'bet', you might lose or win. And when you bet, you're already risking your money. I'm just being skeptical here but I didn't say nor intended to say that it's a bad site. I'm just saying my opinion though. When it comes to gambling, I don't believe nor expect there's a "100%" thing just like 100% guaranteed no losing.

like explained in the post and explained on the colossusbets.com website. There is a possibility to bet risk free. I already explained the conditions.

You must get a total of 750€+ in filled syndicate pools you created yourself.
You only fund 10% of the pools with your own money.

If you be able to fill 750+ in own syndicates colossusbets gives you back a rebate of 10% which actually the same amount as you put at stake yourself. So yeah I consider this as a risk free betting method.

I politely ask you to look at the following screenshot that I attached. Only note this week I only qualify for the 7.5% rebate because it was my first week as a captain over there and I did not reached the required 750€+ in total pool value.

Check following betting details.

total cost of the ticket : 145.80€
captain minimum contribution 10%: 14.58€
7.5% rebate on the ticket if sold: 10.94€

So what does this tell. If this ticket gets fully funded I receive 10.94€ back from the 14.58€ I invested myself (because of I didnt reach the 750€ + total value) But if I would have reached the 750+ I would have received back the entire 14.58€ and I would own 10% of that ticket.

So I consider this risk free betting. Cause even if the ticket is loosing I receive back my stake because of the 10% rebate. So as soon I receive my weekly 750€+ minimum then I will bet for free cause I receive the 10% rebate which is equal to my personal stake in the ticket.

https://i.imgur.com/uoxifWy.png


And by the way I am not begging for money here. I am just offering this to this community. This platform does not accept crypto so that why I suggested to compose a fun betting group and put together resources and bet risk free as a group.
I have enough money to do this on my own but why playing alone if you can increase chances by playing together

It's risk free for you but not risk free for the other members of the syndicate, who need to supply 90% of the stake. It's not really that different for other affiliate schemes - bring some suckers in, we'll kick some money back to you.

Firstly, you did not bother answering my question which is odd since I was considering joining your group, but I wanted to know what the minimum investment is.

This is a fair point actually. How exactly will this method be risk free for everyone else op since the 10% rebate which you mentioned several times already is exclusive to the captain only? Care to clarify?

everyone is free to create his own syndicates as well. I consider my betting balance as 2 parts. I use it partially to create my own syndicate pools which give me returns in form of rebate. but I invest in other captains syndicate pools as well which is also gambling for me cause my money is at stake as well.

And it isnt really an affiliate sheme. this rebate opportunity is available for everyone. Even a person that signs up today and creates a syndicate pool qualifies for a 5% rebate. In this way they stimulate that there is enough traffic on their platform. Everyone can become a captain. From the moment you start creating syndicate pools you are a captain. And depending on your results you will receive followers on the platform that are willing to invest in your syndicate tickets

but I definatelly not registered there to gamble entirely risk free. I create syndicate pools which guarantee me rebate and risk free betting but I play solo tickets myself and I also invest in other pools than my own.

Its just the same like any other gambling site actually. if you refer people and they play than you also receive a ref commission on their wagered amount. If you only gamble with your referral commission that you received on your referrals wagers than you also are gambling risk free. So I do not understand why all the hassle about it. It just is exactly the same.


And do not get me wrong. I am not here to find affiliates or people that want to invest in my tickets. There are thousands of players on their platform and they get filled anyway. The reason I am here is to compose a group and to benefit from the 10% rebate as a group.

Just a simple example.

I have 100€ on colossus to spend to create tickets. So with 100€ and the min 10% captain contribution I can create a total amount of 1.000€ in syndicate tickets.
But lets say we have a group of 10 people that each put in 100€ in our shared pool than we have 1,000€ and than we can create 10,000€ in syndicate pool tickets.

And for our group it would be risk free.

If all tickets get filled we receive the 10% rebate that returns our 1,000€ and if tickets do not get filled the tickets get voided and we receive the money of the voided tickets back as well.

It only has 1 negative side on creating a group. Lets say if we have a group of 10 that put money together to fund the 10% min contribution than every group member would own 1% of the entire ticket instead of me 10% if I play alone. But I rather have 1% in a total of 10,000€ in tickets than 10% in 1,000€ of tickets. Cause chance of winning will increase cause we would be able to fitl in 10x more lines than when I would play alone.

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Sorry I missed that reply and did not answered your question. I do not run a huge group. At this moment we are a small group of friends. When we found out about colossusbets we each added 75€ to the platform to try it out. So we only started with a 375€ balance. If everything goes well we gonna add much more to it. but the most important is that we set some results so we build a community of followers on colossusbets.

So we accept everyone in our group and everyone is free to choose how much he wants to contribute to the group bankroll.

As soon as a new member joins there is full transparency. All members receive links of all the composed tickets, all members can decide together with us which games to pick and assist us with their knowledge. Because the more knowledge of different people you have as a group the more powerful tickets can be created.

So if you are interested we can always discuss in private or on telegram, Skype if preferred. It would be nice to have a BTCtalk community member joining our team so we have someone that can vouch for us and about what we are doing.

Ok, so it's a referral program, not an affiliate program, I used the incorrect lingo. The point still stands. You need to find suckers to fill your pools. And if you have enough suckers you don't need anyone to share your profits with, it doesn't make any sense. You could make a few "free" bets and make as much "free" money as you want.

There is something you're not telling us.

I do not need to lure people in. There are thousands of people on colossusbets and on their partners websites. And those people are not suckers. those are people that want to gamble on sports but do not have the time or skills to analyse games and create their own tickets.

The reason I want to do this as a group is to spread our chances much more. Like I said I rather own 1% of 10,000€ in total bets than 10% in 1,000€ in bets if I play on my own.

Nope that's it.
it is exactly the same as any gambling site. sites like for example stake pays you a commission on the wagers of your referrals. Colossusbets actually does the same. It pays up to a maximum of 10% on wagers. the only difference is it dont need to be your personal referrals to fill your syndicates.

Colossus has a referral system which gives you a freeplay bet and up to a maximum of 10$ for referred members.
But the rebate promotion has nothing to do with referrals. It is just an incentive for good captains that provide good picks. Cause it is what it is. If you only offer tickets that loose you will loose followers and your tickets will not get filled that easy.
So for a good captain its a nice reward. Cause to be honest I do not place my picks blind fully. Me and my friends analyse upcoming games for many hours weekly. so we consider it as a nice reward for the work and effort we put in

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This is actually the purpose why I want to create a group.


Lets say I play alone. I spend 100€ to create pools and take 10% captain share. So with my 100€ I can compose a total value of 1,000€ in tickets.
Result I receive back my share through rebate. And I receive 10% of the tickets so I also will receive 10% of the winnings of those tickets.


But if we play as a group it isnt meant to fill tickets.
Lets say we are a group of 10 people and we each contribute 100€ in our group. Then our group balance would be 1,000€.
So now as a group we can create 10 times more tickets cause we have 1,000€ to spend in the captain contribution. So we can create 10,000€
in tickets.

Result. The group receives back the 1,000€ through rebate and THE GROUP earns 10% of the winnings on all the tickets.

After that the winnings we made as group are shared according to how much each of our group members contributed to our group bankroll.



The concept if my idea is just the same like a group of friends or colleagues at work play as a group on the lottery.
If you play alone you have 1/xxx million to hit the jackpot. But if they play with 25 people they have statistically 25 times more chance to win, with the only disadvantage when hitting the jackpot it must be shared with everyone.


I personally just think that is the power of playing as a group. Yes indeed winnings must be shared. But when do you have the most chance to hit the jackpot
 -> playing alone with a single 2€ line
 -> or play as a team on thousands of lines + receiving back the initial stake as rebate.


It is just very simple.

If you are able to get 750€+ pools filled every single week and never contribute more than 10% in your own pools than the starting balance of  group can only grow because we will always receive back our share as rebate the next week + we receive 10% of all our ticket winnings.

It is not a quick rich theme but I consider this more or less as a saving account that grows slightly every single week

In playing gambling, you are just risking your self and your money in playing. Still, we cannot assure you that you will win in every game because most of the time, the odds do not always favor you. In some instances, if you want to win all those games, sometimes there is an inside job that has the authority to read the algorithm and probability about what is the next number or dice will show up. This kind of action does not help you to grow more experience, knowledge, skills, and tricks.


Some reason, there is a lot of people that are good at playing gambling, and even them experience to lose, but by these loses, they use it. And did a lot of research, studying and understand the different tricks of odds in playing the particular game to make sure they won't experience to lose.

As an Information Technology student, I can create a system or this betting game and I know that I could easily manipulate the winning method I think your method could work in a lot of users but not in all of the users. All betting system could easily be altered the algorithms of how the system works I could make or higher the winning percentage of the game to attract a lot of users to continue playing and investing in the website but also after that I could make sure that it will not be going to happen in the other users so pretty much it is just a fair chance in a lot of users but a win-win situation for the website owner or developer.

There’s risk in everything we do so if he is saying 100% risk-free that’s just not right because nothing is risk free when it comes to betting. Once you do bet it’s also a gamble and when you gamble there’s risk of either win or lose the battle and no matter how well you think in analyzing things, it is not a guarantee that you’ll win always.

I never said it is a 100% winning way of betting cause you still gamble. I only said it is 100% risk free. And this only because of the rebate feature this platform offers. I receive 10% rebate on the total value of my created syndicates. And that 10% is actually the exact amount I put in myself self. So its a 'zero' operation. I put lets say 75€ in my own syndicates and I receive a 75€ rebate next week. So actually I am betting for free because I receive the weekly rebate reward.

so this is what I mean with risk free. If the platform pays you back the amount you put in as a captain than you are betting for free and you do not have risks to loose money cause you received back your stake as rebate reward.

i guess just invite your family, friends and colleagues or whoever is close to you.
i dont think you can get potential bettors from this forum, they already have had enough bs that they dont want another one!
and since you are boasting as 100% risk free, why not share it to your family, you might get rich fast as to how you presented this method.

There are ton of people and bettors on this forum who would like to make extra few bucks. Because you dont like betting, dosent mean rest of the people dosent like betting. Yes i agree, ive seen it all 95% of "sportstipsters" trying to scam, all these experimentals with 1.02 odds and shit. There is an upstet 1out of 10 times. Everybody is just gambling here and throwing their money away which is sad. There are people like me who know shit load about this business.



Pool syndicate is not a scam. Most of the Main faous bookies are already offering it. Its  just means you bet less to win big with multiple bets. I dont mind to bet 20 cents to win 5 euros. It just takes longer than placing just 1 bet by yourself, But again you risk less. ALthough i still go with my own sportsbetting systems. I wouldnt mind trying this out 1day.

Its not a fast get rich opportunity. The only advantage is that the weekly rebate for successful captains is a nice opportunity to get some or most of your initial stake back of your bets.
I am not begging here for people. I just introduce them an opportunity to bet on sports and receive their entire or partial return of their stakes even when bets are loosing.

I said multiple times this is not a quick rich thing. To make big money you still need to have winning tickets and hit a jackpot. The only advantage is that on colossusbets you can receive back your entire stake you invested as a captain with the weekly rebate.

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I agree with you.

the only thing is this is not a tipping service. I lost much money myself on so called professional tipsters in the past. The only thing I do now is playing this colossusbets jackpot pools.
Couple weeks ago I had a choice to make. I could just keep  betting on sports on a regular platform and risk of loosing money. Cause thats the cause. on a regular platform if your bet is wrong you loose your stake, as simple as that.
But then I got introduced to colossusbets and found out about their rebate system which makes it possible to get your stake back if you meet the requirements. so thats why I decided to switch my funds to colossusbets. Cause by receiving back the rebate of 10% max i could manage my bankroll much better.
And by playing smart it is possible to bet for free. The only thing you need to do is to sell 750€ of total syndicate tickets and only invest 10% in those tickets yourself. In this way you receive the exact amount back as 10% rebate as the amount you put in your own tickets.

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Dont want to lure in people. But feel free to follow my progress as a captain in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200308.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200308.0)
And if there are people interested to join they can always contact me. As I said I dont want to actively attract people. If people are interested they can join my team. But they need to ask themselves.

I had a couple profitable syndicates tickets and I managed to climb to 20th place in the captains leaderboard only in 1 week.

No matter what game a gambler is playing, the element of risk is always involved because the element of luck is always there. Even in sports betting, it is impossible to avoid this factor. I agree, most of the times results are based up on the skills but then there are also times when weak opponents defeat the strong ones. Same goes for poker. Skills help but receiving good cards is a matter of luck.

don't think most people read the logic behind my topic.

You will never here me say I will hit 100% succesrate in my tickets. thats impossible. The only thing I say is that I bet 100% risk free because I receive as much back in rebate reward than what I put in my own pool bets

I agree there is no 100% guaranteed winning in any gambling game. but what I do want to explain is that in colossubets you can bet risk free cause as a captain you can receive back 10% rebate on your total created syndicate tickets. And if you put no more than 10% in your own tickets than you will receive back as much as you put in. Its not that difficult math.

I create 1000€ in total syndicates pool value

I add 100€ in total to the syndicates (10% which is minimum captain contribution)

Because my total is above 750€ I receive back 10% rebate on the total value the next week which is 10% of 1000€

Result => I invested 100€ in my own syndicates and next week I receive back 100€ (10% rebate of 1000€)

So if I can calculate good I receive back as much as I invested. So 0€ of my balance is exposed of loosing and every winning ticket will bring tickets. But if a ticket is wrong I do not loose cause I have my rebate returned to me the week after

Just to understand, there is no method for 100% guaranteed gain, people would not work or do any of the things they don't have to, everyone gambled and made a living from it.
This is probably from scam methods, an attempt to make money out of your wallet with stories of how easy it is to make money. Don't ever fall for things like this, the money will come if you are  hardworking, and if you are new, read this topic, just about that:   

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200134.msg53033134#msg53033134

Mate you dont even understand what betting pool means. You have zero clue about sportsbetting. Trust me i know what a scam is. and i wil call it out easily. At this point I would say your motivational speech about bitcoin is worthless. Although i do like motivational quotes. But what this has to do with bitcoin lol? You either buy it or no. How you can work hard for bitcoin and what exactly you will achive? You cant make bitcoin to be more valuable or something. It is not up to you. While you wait bitoin to skyrocket. Make money in sportsbetting. Simple as that.

Edit: Sorry @TheRealWiseInvestor. I thought it was related on me when you said 'you have zero clue about sports betting and don't understand pool betting.

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Bro you must read my entire topic.

I never claimed I have a method that wins 100%

The only thing I said that by using the colossusbets.com captain rebate promotion and if you play smart you can receive back the exact amount as you put in initially. But apparently people are to stubbern to verify the information I gave.

It is very simple If you can get 750€+ of total syndicate value filled in 7 days then you receive a 10% rebate over the total amount. If you do not add more than 10% yourself in your own created pools than the rebate you receive is equal to the amount you put in. Its really not that difficult to calculate or so.

I also never said it is easy to make money. I only told that there is through colossusbets a way you can bet without loosing your initial stake

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check out the picture. But note in my first week I did not sold 750+ in syndicates so I only qualified for the 7.5% rebate this week.


Total syndicate tickets value :                            56.33€
Total I invested myself in this tickets:                  5.63€
Rebate I will get returned next week:                  4.22€

Conclusion: I receive back 75% of what I invested myself and if I would have reached the 750€+ total syndicate value than I would have received back 100% of my personal invested amount in my pools.

It really is not that difficult.

https://i.imgur.com/nQeTEys.png

My message was to mateozi not to you bettingpool captain lol.

First of all, what's the name of the site? Second, I don't think I could trust something like this that nobody could lose on their bets. This is probably another scam site with sweet promises to lure investors and gamblers.

lol I have mentioned the site. the site is https://www.colossusbets.com (https://www.colossusbets.com)

this site is the largest sports pool jackpot operator in the world for years.
They have a heavy regulated UK gambling license.
Colossusbets has partnerships with the most well known sportsbooks in the world like Betfair.com


So first read all my posts and replies first before screaming out it is a scam. They paid out over 30 million GBP in jackpot winnings over the past years.


And I have never said nobody could loose on his bets. There are a couple conditions that I explained multiple times how you bet risk free by betting on colossusbets. But apparently nobody is willing or willing to take the logic.

its easy like this 10-10 = 0

you can earn up to 10% rebate on your own created pool tickets. And the minimum you have to contribute yourself is 10%. So this means if you meet the other conditions you get back in rebate reward what you added to your pool yourself.

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ok my bad. didnt get that well then. Finally someone that understand how pool betting works.... praise the lord. Hopefully you also understand the rebate part I explained and that there is a way to bet risk free

There can be disbelievers that do not believe in this strategy.... but well it is making me some money at least. Next week I have a guaranteed return of my stake through the captain rebate system and I have 2,000€ in cash outs available currently.

So I will get my stake returned.... I will take some of the cashout offers today and gamble the rest in the other games of the tickets. currently running for the 100k , 30k and 4 times in the 10k jackpots.

Details:

Ticket playing for the 100,000€ jackpot
20 people including me are in this syndicate ticket
115€ ticket purchase value
current CashOut offer 1495€

https://i.imgur.com/Dk0zKrE.png


Ticket playing for 30,000€ jackpot
this one I played solo because it didnt get filled by participants
25€ ticket purchase value
Current CashOut offer 405€

https://i.imgur.com/OyQ8eON.png


Ticket playing for 10,000€ jackpot
playing this one solo as well
4.32€ ticket purchase value
Current CashOut offer 176€

https://i.imgur.com/ta2MemR.png

I have  read through your post and i must say i am impressed with your explicit breakdown and explanation.  But i still have my reservation on how it is possible to brt fully without losing a dime, to me it sounds impossible, betting is a form of gamble and gambling its based on luck so avoiding loss sounds impossible. But i will give you a benefit of doubt by following your strategy religiously and diligently hoping it plays out as you have stated

same here  . title seems overated  . 100 percent guarantee no loosing  ? after reading it ,  the first thing that come's to my mind is unreal  .  there are some users here that posted simillar claim's but they only recieve a bashing from the forum users here   .

if we want to gain costumers we must also tell the truth   .  sports betting isnt just a kind of a luck game somehow but pro sports bettor that i know do still loose sometime's    .  

This one sounds like a scam to me. I'll give you another guide for free. There are only three ways of not losing when gambling.

1-Don't play. You can't lose if you don't play.

2-Be lucky. You can't lose if you are lucky.

3-Arbitrage betting. This one is a bit complicated but let's say you need to choose your casinos carefully otherwise you'll lose there too.

^ These are definitely right, looks like unreal or maybe the group manipulated somehow but I don't know yet. 100% no loosing that is unbelievable for me. Unless, if you have power and vision to know what is the result in the future. Lol. In addition to what I have quoted above, probably abusing the sports betting site.

^ So, how really it works?

I think I finally get it. Okay, if it is indeed like you say it is (and we neglect the fact that one can invest €100 and never get the rebate back because it's a scam), then it is risk-free for a captain.  I wanted to ask the following questions, though:
1. Who is paying the rebate to the captain and what is the motive behind this action?
2. What happens when a captain invests 100 euro but other people don't invest 900 euro, so there is no 1000 euro syndicate?
Apart from that, even though I read your thing about people who don't know betting but want to do that, it seems unfair to the members of the syndicate. And it does resemble a ponzi.

The OP is asking people to join his syndicates (to gamble, not for rebates) so that's I guess how he's hoping to make the captain rebates flowing:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200308

I still haven't seen a credible explanation why he needs other people to share his "100% guaranteed" method tho... the amounts he's mentioned are tiny (a few hundred pounds) so he could just bankroll it himself and get rich without sharing it with anybody.

This is new with gambling, but from what I understood it looks to be a long chain. We're supposed to make people to continue to join your syndicate. This lower the losing when you spend on games, but this needs lot of dedication to convince and make people join under one's captaincy.

Thats the simple logic on which people should really need to think off first before believing into these 100% guaranteed winning bets.If someone would able to make money out of it then theres no individual
or strategy maker would tend to share it up on the first place and instead he would make use it on his own and make himself rich.

Simple logic would somewhat need some common sense for you to realize that theres no such thing as guaranteed win on gambling.

Because if he already indeed find the right way not to lose in this game, I don't think he will come here in the first place.
He should be enjoying the fruit of his winnings somewhere else.
There's always a catch for something dubious act like this. They will lure you with this kind of propaganda.
Even in sports betting, you can't always say that you are in 100% winning side.
There will always be circumstances that can affect the final game results and we have no control on that.

There is no way you can't lose in gambling even if you say you master the technique on how to bet without losing. I just don't believe such claims because no matter how professional you are you will always experience losses when gambling.

The claim of OP is just too exaggerated to believe, you best try that method of yours and get rich since you said it's a 100% chance to win. I doubt why do you have to share it here when you can make a lot of fortune using your own betting strategy.

In my opinion there is no gambling site can provide a 100% chance of winning because honestly I never encounter in my entire gambling life. Although some gambling site can possibly make you win but there is no guarantee you win 100% even using strategy. Also even the professional gamblers is experiencing a loses particularly those beginners there's possibility they might encounter loses.

             When we say sports betting, there some analysts that are providing their opinions regarding team standings and what are the team capabilities but sometimes it is not accurate, it is also helpful that you make your own analysis. I honestly prefer sports betting than other gambling ways or methods, because for my own experience i can analyze and make the choice of your own base on my analysis. Winning is also not really a hundred percent sure since pther teams maybe hiding their strength.

Even the Analysts can possible have a error and not all their prediction is precise because there's possibility it might change but we can used their opinion to guide us to possible winning but still its depend to us if we will used or not. Also Im not 100% guarantee to believe that no losing in betting method because I think it's really impossible to happen.

It is difficult to believe because gambling doesn't work that way. You have to think cautiously before wagering, due to the fact that you can't guarantee the possible outcome. Who won't question it when it seems unrealistic, how can it be risk free? well i'm not underestimating the capacity of the strategy, so I'll simply sit back and see if the that it works for others. Actually, I'm not into sport betting but I've tried it and you need to be wise because you can't easily recognize which team will win.

100% success rate or what we called a holy grail doesnt exist on this world specially talking about gambling.We know that anything can happen in sports
even you do bet on the most favorite team but it doesnt mean that you would win 100% on that one. Come to think on injuries or handicaps that would happen
unexpectedly which would really affect a particular games outcome.

On other note on why this old thread being bumped by that dude above? necro-posting is highly being prohibited into this forum.

100 percent success rate is possible if a gambling site is related to the tipster or the ones that gives this method because they can manipulate the game on thier own  but most of them will sold the tip for a verry costy price   . its not for all that who cant afford  it but gambling sites like that wont last long because sooner or later normal players will complain about thier fairness   .  fair gambling sites are still the way to go for me , and there is no need to depend on others tips whatsoever because you will only win if its your time   .

The 100% guarantee is sketchy enough i mean how can you bet something and take it all back without losing anything plus you'll get to earn from getting a rebate. Gambling business doesn't work that, this is one of the methods to scam people. Also some of us here like an anonymous betting site because our country has laws about online gambling.

I would believe it, if it has some kind of big giveaways or jackpot. Like freebitco and Kawbet but its not. The conditions are simply extraordinary and hard to believe.

then you should visit their website and check out yourself. Colossusbets have been in business for a couple years now and is operating under strict regulation of the UK gambling commission.
I never claimed everyone can gamble 100% risk free on their site. I only tried to explain that there is a possibility to earn back your personal contribution through the captain rebate.

It is very simple. they have 3 rebate tiers 5- 7.5 and 10% captain rebate. 

If you get a syndicate ticket filled you automatically receive the 5% rebate. So if you for example sell a 10€ syndicate ticket and contribute 1€ to that ticket yourself than the week after you receive back 0.5€ which is 5% of the total ticket value and 50% of your own stake.

If you manage to sell 120€ or more in syndicate tickets the rebate increases to 7.5%. Can you sell for over 880€ in tickets than the rebate increases to 10%

But the only way to benefit fully is you need to reach the highest tier and not contribute more than 10% of the ticket values yourself. Only in this way you receive as much back as rebate as you invested yourself in your tickets.

example.

you create 1000€ in syndicate tickets and they all get filled. You contribute the minimum captain percentage of 10% which is 100€. Because you filled over 880€ in tickets you get the 10% rebate which also is 10% of the total ticket value. this means you receive back the same amount than you invested yourself.

But if you decide to contribute lets say 50% (500€) of your own tickets then you still receive back the 10% (100€) but you are not betting entirely for free.


So that's why I said there is a possibility to bet risk free because you can earn as much in weekly rebate than you invest yourself in your own created tickets..... BUT then a certain amount of conditions must be met. Never said it is easy.... only said there is a possibility.

never talked about a 100% succes rate. Even I know this isn't possible. In the original post I only tried to explain that there is a way on the colossusbets platform to turn your betting into a risk free way of betting..... ONLY if certain conditions are met.

It is just exactly the same as benefitting from a referral system. Lets say you have zero balance in your gambling account but you have 100 referrals that earn you lets say 0.01BTC in total of referral commissions. If you bet this 0.01BTC then you also are betting risk free cause all winnings will be pure profits cause you havent put in any own money.

This is the same with colossusbets. the only difference is that you first need to put own money in your tickets .... and if certain conditions are met you can receive back your entire stake through the rebate system

I didn't read that long note because I concluded what to comment already from the subject

In sports betting, nothing is certain and you are more likely to lose.
Your chances of losing money to gambling is higher than your chances to winning.

So be sure what you are getting into.

There is no 100% win rate when it comes to gambling.
There service seem's like an investment program and only used the sports betting to cover it up.
The only way you could secure a winning spot on a sports game is when a team would surely throw away the game.

There is no 100% guaranteed no losing Sport betting and if it exist, everyone is billionaire already ;D
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It is impossible to be 100% not losing in every circumstance.
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Gambling has 90% of the player loose this is true, here is why, imagine you are playing cards there like 5 to 7 playing along side with you
only one player will win example in poker, if you win the rest of the player loose , same as if one player wins you loose, there is no guaranteed win in gambling, winning and go home with money is so slight others just go there to play for some games and go home, they are not exactly expecting to win, my friends do this, because once you start betting big, you wan't to get it back and the chance of loosing is much more bigger because you want to get back the money you spend, the result is negative, so having said 100% guaranteed of not loosing game is hard to believe in my opinion.

If people want to follow what he did, just be careful because, as far as I know, there is no 100% guaranteed. You should not use too big money to try, and you should know what you do. Otherwise, you will regret it in the end. The gambling itself will not give you the way to make money, no matter what method you use. Okay, you can win for some rounds, but you cannot always win in every time you play gambling. So be careful, and don't risk more money if you are not ready with the loss.

Even if you have the best strategy in mind there is still a chance that you will lose.
This happens because there is the factor of luck. When luck exists even the 1% of this factor might make you lose your money. So there is not any guaranteed method to make money from sport betting.

yeah i do agree with you and talking 100% in gambling?is a NO NO for me lol.

that is why this is called gambling because everything is not permanent and constant,we can win today but we can lose tomorrow so  how come that there is 100% in promise?thats not what gambling is all about.

Yes that's true, there's no such thing as a perfect 100% win rate in gambling because we all know that if you gamble, you need to take the risk. If that's the case, that's not a strategy at all, that's considered as a cheating. If you keep on winning and making it as a source of money and people are losing, the gambling platform will notice that you're using their platform as a getting rich scheme. It is very unfair to those other customers. There is more likely that you'll be investigated about that if that's 100% is really true. Another thing is that you can get banned from that gambling platform or you can go to jail if the authority found out that you are abusing the casino. Making money doing that is really unfair as people are losing money, whereas normal people are losing huge amount of money.

True, no thing such a 100% guaranteed winning in gambling. If yes, he should have use it again and again to make himself rich and no need to recruit other people. If this is the case, I would say that you can't control the win rate because if there's winning there is also losing. Gambling is very unpredictable you can win and most of the time you will lose and vice versa. Also, some of the games are based on luck which results to different outcome even though the team you are betting are good there is a chance that they will lose so it depends on your luck if you are lucky enough for that game. Also, that 100% guaranteed method he has is not a good choice for me, but just hearing it is just like a scam for me. Either way it is still your choice, my advice is to think before deciding, analyze and consider things that would help you to decide like the possible outcomes of this.

This smells fishy, no website to visit and it is risk free?
I don't think that is a good combination if you want to convince people to play your game, this ticks one of my checklist for fraudulent schemes. You still have the benefit of the doubt, you can prove yourself but until then this smells fishy.

If that really works in gambling then it will be a getting rich scheme for those greedy and eager person. Are you serious? 100% guaranteed win rate in gambling and still you share it to other people. That's suspicious, I think it is not true and he just want to caught the attention of many gamblers. You don't need to share your method or strategy if it is true because the authority might notice you of doing that. Having a 100% win rate in gambling is very unfair to those customers who are losing a huge amount of money and still the money are going to you and in the casino. Give us some proof of your 100% guaranteed win rate so that we can check your legitimacy in giving us some strategies in gambling. The reality of gambling is that it is risky and the probability of losing is always higher compared to the probability of winning.

Just seeing 100%, I can already say that it's almost impossible. Even soap can't kill 100% bacteria, what more about gambling? Lol just kidding. But it seems unrealistic that it's 100% risk-free. In gambling there is always a risk. When you invest your money, it's already a risk so how can you say it's risk free?

Reading what other says, it seems like the risk free is on the captain. But how about your member? Isn't it unfair? And if it's actually true, why does it's not making noise here in the forum? If it's a risk free for the captain, then every players should have been creating their own syndicate. I don't know, it's still kinda vague, and I'm still in doubt. It's not gambling if it's risk free because both gambling and risk are interconnected to each other.

If any website mentioning Ill think thats a scam fr lol. You might get higher chance to win but no 100%. It's so unreal for 100% winning.
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Seriously? 100% guaranteed win? Does it mean that there is no loss in that game?
I never find this kind of gambling so far. If it is true, you must be very rich right now because you have practiced first and made your kind of words as proof of your success.
personally, every gambling will be interested when there is still a chance to win and lose. Lost in gambling may be as usual, and we can enjoy how the process of losing and gaining. So, we can re-arrange our method and trying to make a good choice of gambling portion again.

So, if it is said that:
Are you marketing about that? Is this scam? Or only a legit offering? personally, I do not think that it really happens because it is so strange. Guaranteed, risk-free. It is likely not the characteristics of gambling.

How is it risk free gambling? I know about tipster, a person generated info on outcome of sports betting. You have to invest in a pool and if you win in sports betting you will get a dividend of that investment. So, there is no guarantee that you will win again and again in sports betting. You might win some gambles but I don’t think it will always work. There is no such thing as risk-free gambling.

betting tips do not make a profit...
it's better to follow the advice of a trusted friend and not take advantage of us. my husband once tried to become a member of a tipster in telegram and as a result, my husband lost a lot of money.

If I am offered sports betting with a 100% guarantee that I never lose, I immediately reject the offer. Because I'm sure if there is people
who offer it like that are 100% scammers. Because logically it's impossible for people to offer things that are 100% profitable to share
for others, should be enjoyed by himself. And we all in this forum also know that scammers always offer something to be good to be true.

100% guarantee is like by now he should be one of the richest person in the world because he will borrow from all and place the bets and win it because 100% sure it will be winning the bets. So it does not happen, and better only for people to place the bets as per their research, which team they think has higher chances of winning and players etc and place the bets on them only.

Tipsters earn if they will ask money from their tips but usually, we tend to avoid those kind of services because the reality is that there's no 100% tip that will make you earn for every bet you do.

It is why, don't depend with the tipsters too much unless they have a big name and proven themselves to be near-accurate.

We do have our own free will and own understanding but we should really know on how things do work before making some engagement or trying to believe up.

It isnt bad to follow some tipster but you should know the limitation on your side. Verify everything and base up your analysis with theirs and you should be the one who would
make decisions because it wont really be that regretful if that certain bet lost.
There are indeed tipsters that do have high winning rate but doesnt mean that we can really rely on them.For people who do think up this way then
better to think twice because theres no such thing about easy money.

To be very honest, there is no method or technique in the world which will get you 100% guaranteed win.
As we are talking about sports betting, which is another way of spending your money on somebody else's luck.

So, I am sure this is just another spam post to attract attention and nothing else.
I will advice everyone to stay away from such beliefs and sayings.

I agree with you, there is no method that can ensure 100% winning in gambling. Not only in sports betting, but all gambling games
have no strategy that guarantees you won't lose. So I believe the gambling method at the opening is a scams, we have to think realistically.
If there really is a strategy that guarantees 100% victory, then all gambling sites will go bankrupt.

Is that even possible? ???

Definitely, in gambling, you don't really know the percentage of winning, the system seems to be always in favor of the house, but in terms of sports betting, teams are likely having a very small difference in their skills. But I can think of one thing to be success in sports betting but it is unlikely to be applied by the gamblers. If we are going to participate in the game itself and we will do our best to win, we can bet to ourselves before the game starts. In this way, we have the outcome in our hands.


Perhaps, he has a point, but the chances of this to be effective is quite low.

If anything would have a guaranteed result, then everyone would just follow it and make money form that source only and would not have to do any other things. So just blindly do not follow in any such thing and better to investigate and develop owns knowledge so that we can have advantage in something over others while gambling rather than believing any such things.

You can try for yourself to know if that is works or not. But as far as I know, there is no 100% guaranteed method that will work many times in the gambling games because you need to find what method will work for you. You need to modify the method from time to time so that it could work, but still, it is difficult to get the right method. Maybe you can win for one or two or three times, but the next bet, I don't think you will win again. Besides using the right method, you need to have luck.

It could be but chances are extremely low.


There's a good chance that it is.
But it integrates me he wrote such a topic explaining it i'm not going to take his/her beliefs regarding what he's saying.
I guess staying away is the best thing someone can do.

To think that if that kind of strategy exist then someone who had discovered it, would he just easily shared it up? unless if its being discovered or found out on your own then no one will surely share it and spoil
it on their own for their advantage.

100% winning doesnt exist and this had been talked in the past about this topic for a hundred times already i guess.I agree that this would just create another spam or megathread.

If we do just use up our own understanding and common sense then you wouldn't end up on these kind of topics or understanding.  8)

There should be more to what you have posted here because if you are confident with your method then I doubt if you will waste your time in posting this thread here because you can just use that method anytime you want and earn the money that you like to get.

Most of those people who have successful method won't share it to anyone especially if it can ruin the method when there will be many that are going to use it or the platform owner where the method works will do something to counter their successful method that is why most of the genuine method are in silent mode or they are hiding it to themselves.

   But there's no 100% winning method! Successful people in sport betting have high successful rate, but there's no 100% in
gambling! We see this kind of headlines often, in most cases it's a scheme that will try to suck out your money. You will have
to pay for method that will work for some time, if you are lucky, if not you will lose money paying for method and you will lose
money with trying that method.

agree! if they have 100% winning method, i dont think they will be here in the forum. those real successful bettors will not disclose their strategies as well, most of them will enjoy what they have. and the truth is, there's no 100% winning method. even if they are good with their picks, at some point their picks will not win the game. unless, the game is being rigged.
 so if you want good stats in your sportsbetting career, just choose the sports where you are more familiar with, where you know every movement of players, and that i can say, you have good chance in winning but still not 100%.

I tried some experiment in the past on where I do tend to bet out on other sports which I haven't known or does have completely no knowledge about it.

I just simply stick out to the favorites and bang I do able to make profits even on low odds.Yes, it might be a dumb step but with those simple logic or presumption on sticking
with favorites do still work but not all the time.

You would need to look for the odds first if its really worth on the risk or not.

And if most of the people followed the method that OP is proposing and if it is legit and working 100%, there will be no casinos to open and serve the people. But for my experience in gambling, I haven't seen even 1 that has a game with players having 100 percent chance of winning. But if the game is an Esport and we really know a team which is really good, the chance of our bet to bet will be quite higher but still not 100 percent.

casino will start to cheat or invent a system that is hard to beat if that happens or there will be no more paid casinos but there will still be free to play casinos  . we dont want that  and thank god those things didnt exist yet .

 when a gambler wins , isnt that consider a 100 percent win ? but if he loose with a closer result to win , that can be an example of 99 percent chance win or less depending on the result  .

So its some kinds initial betting features like most other gambling sitr but the difference, is it doesn't accept cryptocurrencies as deposit. I've seen this kind of websites before, and most like they do not pay and early shutdown. Well, that's indeed zero risk considering you're syndicate rebate. But be careful with your money in this site. This might be a scam.

   And can you give us the results of your experiment with betting just on favourites and low odds? I would like to see your results,
and if you have some conclusions I would like to hear about that too.
   I had couple tries with betting on favourites, but just couple of tries and in longer period of time. But I often think about betting
just on favourites, mostly 2 or 3 matches. I am not sure how would that go, it's why I like to hear more about your experiment.

This is not possible as far as I know. This could be another scam method, so be careful before doing any kind of test. Scams are always hidden behind tempting offers, so you have to control your greed.

Think about one thing in common, if someone has such a strategy, why would he share it with others? Why doesn't he become rich alone? This is a very big questionable thing. So it is not easy to believe something shared by someone, will try to do a little verification. Since you are a newbie I thought you should be warned.