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Title: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: Yangminz on November 12, 2019, 09:23:47 AM
I’ve been noticing that services such as Patreon have been booting off some content creators that have “violated” their terms and services. I was just wondering whether it would be possible to support my favorite content creators using cryptocurrency donations to their websites if they allow it?


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: hello_good_sir on November 12, 2019, 09:43:54 AM
It's a pretty big issue with a lot of platforms, the centralization of it. Those ones are companies, and if they don't provide any actual value to them and aren't good for advertisers (cough, cough, youtube here), they will likely receive shitty treatment from them.

There's a couple of platforms out there that work with crypto-currency, and even though there isn't one out there that offers a decentralized option so people can't get booted off, the one I'll link below are at least a decent step.

Bitbacker.io


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: Coyster on November 12, 2019, 09:53:26 AM
So many websites now open up space to allow people donate to them through cryptocurrency, in the past hardly do you ever see any donation that's not done with regular fiat, digital currencies were not used, the websites wanted it smooth and easy, something they wouldn't have to worry about it's value(dropping).

But with how popular cryptocurrency has become, they'll be losing donations if there isnt an option to donate through cryptocurrency, so many people now are holders of cryptocurrencies, and the world is aware of that. If your favorite content creators have an option for cryptocurrency donation, send them crypto, most preferably Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: Linkkoin on November 12, 2019, 09:59:50 AM
Of course, it is, especially because such platforms like paypal can refuse to provide services to you anytime, without any prior notification.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: Eugenar on November 12, 2019, 10:04:03 AM
We can already see a lot of platforms on the internet that prefers to receive cryptocurrency, especially bitcoin in terms of donation to their contents. For example, there are torrent sites that provide their bitcoin wallet addresses for users to see and donate bitcoin in return for downloading torrent files. If this is possible, YouTubers might also advertise their bitcoin wallet address to receive donations from their fans. It all depends on them on how they will utilize their resources.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: mk4 on November 12, 2019, 10:06:42 AM
You most likely can with smart contract cryptocurrencies if you're specifically referring to automated monthly donations. Unfortunately, automated monthly sending of funds isn't currently available on bitcoin(as far as I know), but as far as I know it's very possible through the lightning network. But of course, feel free to make donations to your favorite content creators if they publicly disclosed a donations address. If they don't, ask them to.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: Sohyun Park on November 12, 2019, 10:29:02 AM
If the writer of the content needs donation for the work then he/she will make sure that they mention the address to receive funds. Taking donation in BTC is always safe then accepting in some new currency.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: Nolimitz84 on November 12, 2019, 10:47:42 AM
In the near future, most likely it will be.Nevertheless, it is much easier and more convenient to encourage content creators with the help of cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: jootn2kx on November 12, 2019, 10:54:36 AM
I’ve been noticing that services such as Patreon have been booting off some content creators that have “violated” their terms and services. I was just wondering whether it would be possible to support my favorite content creators using cryptocurrency donations to their websites if they allow it?


Sure, if they know about crypto and are willing to accept it, definitely. I know of some people who are aware of it but do not really want to meddle with it too much. If they learned more about it (incentivized by donations, maybe?) they could even help spread awareness. It is not a requirement, of course, but every little bit helps, and each new person that gets into crypto is another step in the right direction.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: dothebeats on November 12, 2019, 12:33:40 PM
That’s simply a yes. If they accept donation in their preferred/optional currencies then so be it, give them the donation that they are asking for. It’s really not that hard of a question if you really are looking to help your favorite content creator in any way possible. Obviously, if they want to receive donations in crypto, they would have posted links so as to receive a little extra on the side of what they’re doing.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: gabmen on November 12, 2019, 01:14:25 PM
I’ve been noticing that services such as Patreon have been booting off some content creators that have “violated” their terms and services. I was just wondering whether it would be possible to support my favorite content creators using cryptocurrency donations to their websites if they allow it?


Donations of any form would probably be okay as long as the site allows it. If the cc provides a cryto wallet where you can send in coins, then i don't see any problem with that. It can be converted to fiat anyway. And if a cc is aware of the crypto market and bitcoin, then most of them would probably even prefer to receive donations in btc.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: chaoscoinz on November 12, 2019, 02:11:20 PM
I’ve been noticing that services such as Patreon have been booting off some content creators that have “violated” their terms and services. I was just wondering whether it would be possible to support my favorite content creators using cryptocurrency donations to their websites if they allow it?

You should look up "Brave browser", it aligns well with how your feeling/thinking. Brave allows tipping of BAT tokens to content providers and for users/browsers who opt-in to see the paid ad content. Even Reddit encourages their community toward tipping using cryptocurrencies. I see the tip bot pop up all the time. If you enjoy and feel that the content provided to you was of some help and use, why not offer the creator and provider a tip then?


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: fuguebtc on November 12, 2019, 02:42:20 PM
I dont think Patreon will allow direct payment between parties using CC, since this will eliminate Patreon from the entire payment process and that's prime reason why all centralized system are againest CC.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: audaciousbeing on November 12, 2019, 03:04:23 PM
I’ve been noticing that services such as Patreon have been booting off some content creators that have “violated” their terms and services. I was just wondering whether it would be possible to support my favorite content creators using cryptocurrency donations to their websites if they allow it?


What you should be doing is to review the Terms and Conditions of the platform you want to make the donation because even though the other party might be open to receiving such donations, if its against their policy be sure that your account will be nuked for it. However, if their policy is silent on the use of crypto, then you might scale through which does not mean the account will not be nuked because as part of their Terms is the right for them to change it overnight and they are not under any obligation to notify you of it.

The reason whey they do that is because they want to be sure that operators on their platform are operating within the confines of acceptable parameters not to put them in legal trouble.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: Red-Apple on November 12, 2019, 03:07:44 PM
the thing about bitcoin is that it is decentralized (some of the other cryptocurrencies are too) this means that you don't need anybody's permission to make a transfer. so all you have to do is to ask for your favorite content creator's bitcoin (or other cryptocurrency) address and make your donation by sending him some coins.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: Kupid002 on November 12, 2019, 03:21:53 PM
I’ve been noticing that services such as Patreon have been booting off some content creators that have “violated” their terms and services. I was just wondering whether it would be possible to support my favorite content creators using cryptocurrency donations to their websites if they allow it?

I think something like brave browser can help you with that but you can only tips one crypto currency which is BAT token. Using that browser you are able to tips video creators and website owners but the creators should register also in brave.

Or like what other said you can ask them thier address and send to them directly.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: blckhawk on November 12, 2019, 03:31:00 PM
If the platform allows it so, and the content creator have their respective addresses, then there's really nothing wrong with that. It's also much better than going through intermediaries to reduce the fees associated with your donation. Just make sure the address is right so you don't just waste funds and throw them in the thin air. You could also request the creator to have his address (and maybe encourage him) if he still does not have, which would be seen by his other viewers for more publicity.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: passwordnow on November 12, 2019, 06:29:31 PM
I believe that Brave Browser allows this. There's a tipping feature which you can use but that content creator that you will support should also allow that feature so that the BAT that you will tip to him will be received. But if doesn't like that feature, you can simply ask him to have a donation address for each cryptocurrency that he prefers. These are the most preferred crypto for donations.
- BTC
- ETH
- Doge
- LTC


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: SONG GEET on November 12, 2019, 11:35:51 PM
I came across https://bitpatron.co/ which seems to be good alternative of patron without any censorship but it doesn't look like decentralized. Fee is just 1% compared to 10% in patron.

A smart contract based platform might be even better solution than anything that is centralized, government or authority can easily put bitpatron's founders behind bars and close the site in 1 second if they wanted to   ;)


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on November 12, 2019, 11:52:04 PM
I’ve been noticing that services such as Patreon have been booting off some content creators that have “violated” their terms and services. I was just wondering whether it would be possible to support my favorite content creators using cryptocurrency donations to their websites if they allow it?
This is probably the question you should be asking your favorite content creators. Most of them will support it once they think they have enough audience that will pay them in bitcoins. They wouldn't take the pain to implement the system for like 2 people who are ready to pay in crypto.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: hello_good_sir on November 13, 2019, 12:31:40 AM
You most likely can with smart contract cryptocurrencies if you're specifically referring to automated monthly donations. Unfortunately, automated monthly sending of funds isn't currently available on bitcoin(as far as I know), but as far as I know it's very possible through the lightning network. But of course, feel free to make donations to your favorite content creators if they publicly disclosed a donations address. If they don't, ask them to.
That's probably the main issue with bitcoin becoming a donation, it's pretty good for a single transaction, but compared to the other subscription models, it's just impossible to have it auto send monthly payments - unless you look at other cryptocurrencies and use a smart contract.

If you just want to help out, send a fair bit of BTC and don't worry about them for another year or 2, unfortunately these are the compromises we need to make with BTC in certain situations.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: mk4 on November 13, 2019, 01:24:40 AM
That's probably the main issue with bitcoin becoming a donation, it's pretty good for a single transaction, but compared to the other subscription models, it's just impossible to have it auto send monthly payments - unless you look at other cryptocurrencies and use a smart contract.

I'm pretty sure we would be able to make subscription payments with bitcoin through the lightning network like I said. Yes, unfortunately we would need to wait for the developers to build such a feature on LN wallets, but there's that. We just need a bit of patience.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: joniboini on November 13, 2019, 03:05:50 AM
Another issue with direct crypto 'patreon' is probably the extra content for the supporters. It's easy to solve though, creators can give a link to a special discord or Telegram channel with the extra content, but that's up to the creators & supporters. If they're fine with it then there's no problem.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: CryptoBry on November 13, 2019, 03:55:20 AM

I’ve been noticing that services such as Patreon have been booting off some content creators that have “violated” their terms and services. I was just wondering whether it would be possible to support my favorite content creators using cryptocurrency donations to their websites if they allow it?


Patreon is now known to be removing accounts in their platform even without proper warning and explanation of possible violations hence there are now many complaints on the site's censorship. As the most popular site for content creator, many are dismayed with this inclination of Patreon to be influenced by other powerful entities somewhat connected into its ecosystem. I am not too familiar with the TOS of Patreon and its stand on cryptocurrency but it should have no problem with Bitcoin and cryptocurrency because there can be many who wanted to be paid this way.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: Kakmakr on November 13, 2019, 06:23:42 AM
The problem with this is the centralized nature of the authority of these platforms. If the CEO and his board members or their investors are not in favor of something, they will simply enforce or ban it on their platform. This can also be as a result of external pressure from their local governments.  ::)  

A lot of these companies also have partnership agreements with other payment providers and when people use Crypto currencies, these payment providers will complain with these companies and then these companies will start to ban these alternative payment options.

So every platform are different and you will only see what they allow or what they do not allow, once you read their ToS.  


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: Casdinyard on November 13, 2019, 08:27:36 AM
but it should have no problem with Bitcoin and cryptocurrency because there can be many who wanted to be paid this way.
And who says no with bitcoin otherwise receiving donations? No one, I guess.
But perhaps, no one still opening up this idea in Patreon team that's why they don't have any donation address or we could assume that they are really strict when it comes on their Terms of Services

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So the least you could do is just PM your favorite creator and tell them you gladly want to tip him. I'm wondering now who's your pick, I mean he's surely good.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: oktana on November 13, 2019, 08:39:58 AM
Patreon is based in the US, in fact they can do it but are hampered by rules that force the structure of a non-crypto economic system, but do not ban content widely. I have not seen a good alternative, and bitpatron is not very interesting to use. Currently it can only use donation purses informally.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: romero121 on November 14, 2019, 03:59:36 PM
I believe that Twitch allowed the use of Bitcoin before to support content creators, correct me if I am wrong or they have tokens of their own to allow supporters to show their support for their favorite content creators through subscription or even donation.
If you can use cryptos for it, then there shouldn't be any problems as long as the platform you're doing that kind of support allows that kind of method.
Well, everything upon the support from the developers end. Very few continue the acceptance throughout while more service renders initiate and stop with change of terms and conditions when there isn't big revenue out of it. As stated twitch, and some other services have provided with the support of cryptocurrency acceptance.

From the developer of Brave browser evolved BAT which has got the primary purpose of tipping the content creators. Maybe such services gets added when cryptocurrency becomes more popular than the present.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: SquallLeonhart on November 14, 2019, 05:35:21 PM
I’ve been noticing that services such as Patreon have been booting off some content creators that have “violated” their terms and services. I was just wondering whether it would be possible to support my favorite content creators using cryptocurrency donations to their websites if they allow it?
That depends if they are accepting cryptocurrency then you should send to them. By the way, I don't think they are going to refuse it. Like who even refuses free money? Lol. If you check and it's there on their website that they are accepting cryptocurrency as a donation you can do that. But if not, you can still reach out to them to know whether they are accepting it and if they agree, you can request for their address and then send.

Of course, it is, especially because such platforms like paypal can refuse to provide services to you anytime, without any prior notification.
True, have been in a situation like this and it can be so frustrating. That's one of the reasons why Bitcoin is much better than all these other payment methods, you wouldn't have to worry about situations like this because you're completely in control of everything.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: Shenzou on November 14, 2019, 05:53:27 PM
I’ve been noticing that services such as Patreon have been booting off some content creators that have “violated” their terms and services. I was just wondering whether it would be possible to support my favorite content creators using cryptocurrency donations to their websites if they allow it?

I mean if the content creator that you are supporting accepts bitcoin than you can just send them, otherwise there other indirect ways to do so, like for example making a bitcoin debit card which you can buy and load it up with bitcoin balance and just use it as a regular credit card at any website or shop, and i am sure that in the future with the crypto becoming more and more popular we will see content websites accept it, for example amazon has brought up the option of adding bitcoin to the payment system and with that it might allow you to sub or donate for streamers on twitch with it .


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
Post by: jets567 on November 14, 2019, 05:55:07 PM
If you're intention is to be an anonymous donator for your favorite content creators then I must say that cryptocurrency is a good option as long as they accept this kind of donation. Cryptocurrency has become very useful in terms of donation if you're really keen to give your full support to a person or group, take this forum as an example.


Title: Re: Is it advisable to use cryptocurrency to support my favorite content creators?
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