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Im very confused how to win with high odds in soccer prediction. Because winning with low odds is very basic IMO , i mean it's not specific but mostly low odds always win , the potential is higher unlike with high odds as its 50/50 chance wherein very unpredictable.  Is there any strategy you know except viewing their past game or history?  

I'm afraid there is no such strategy. Odds reflect probability of winning. The lower the odds the higher the probability of winning. The higher the odds the lower the probability of winning. Which means that it is logically hard to win high odds. Viewing their past games, their statistics, the condition of their players, their current line-up, etc won't help because the oddsmakers are all aware of them in the first place. The odds provided already reflect all these factors.

It's normal that low odds usually win since they have a high chance of winning, however you won't be getting a 100% win from your bet and though it wins most of the time, but if you are getting like 30% to 50%, you still need to win maintain a good percentage so you can end up with a profit in the end.
Actually, we can't judge it in general because every game offers different value and it depends on the gambler on how to analyze a certain game.

There's no trick here that would work for all of us, you gotta discover it yourself.

Sometimes bookmaker has lapses on odds. Most common are on the local league only like basketball and so on. I saw a 6.0 odds on a UAAP basketball in the Philippines which I find it error of bookmaker because the two team stats is not too much above the level of each other and that 6.0 odds is given only for the underdog team that facing a powerhouse team. I don't remember exactly the team but I can guarantee that they have
a close statistics in terms of players skills. This is very rare but this is the best way to win with big odds unless you are very lucky.

Even with odds like this, it is still unpredictable if what will be the outcome of the fight but records of recent winnings sometimes don't reflect on who's going to win sometimes I think this is what interesting about sports betting there is a risk in it but you can surely have a hint on who's gonna win if you are familiar with their game or fights or you are on track with the latest updates on their fight I think your good in making great bets, well losing is part of this all it is really normal to have a losing bet in my opinion.

The best staking plan when you have to deal with high odds is stake a 2%-3% of your starting amount. For example, if you have €1,000 available for the whole betting season, a regular stake should be between €20 and €30.

This is an amount you can afford to lose, but still big enough to cause the pang of losing. This pang should be always present, although annoying. It’ll help you think twice before placing your money on a high odds bet and focus on the winning chances.

Still, you’ve got to deal with losing, even consecutive losing. With a 2%-3% staking plan you have to lose 40 consecutive times to eliminate your account money. That’s too many times even for a beginner. If you have a steady analyzing plan and be patient, you’ll find out that betting on high odds is not so difficult, as you might think.

Yes, that happens but very seldom. Bookmakers are not perfect. They commit errors at times. You are very lucky if you encounter such odds and make big winnings out of it. And if your bet on such clearly erroneous odds is not canceled. Betting sites sometimes cancel already-placed bets due to various reasons. One of which is when your bet is placed on what is considered a bad line.

Gambling sites would go bankrupt if they reversed the odds. In a sense, gambling sites also gamble, but they are also a banker. A team has low odds because the site believes they would win, and a team has high odds because the site believes they would lose. There's no such strategy or technique in winning. It's called gambling for a reason, where any type of skill is thrown away in the garbage can and you just pretty much let luck win upon you.

Usually high odds means low chance of winning and opposite - low odds means high chance of winning but that's not always like that. Personally I was testing with some matches and teams which I had no idea about, very strange and unknown matches with high odds and what I found is that it was pretty easy to risk and catch high odd on such games. I think sportsbook providers don't care and to be fair can't take care of every single match and on very unknown matches they sometimes give random odds.
In one ticket I had 3 match, each with 10x odd and two of them win but one failed, if succeed, would be amazing 1000x win.

So do you think that researching and observing about the past result can't affect the odds? It still has a factor in choosing which side we should bet. For example, in basketball, we all know that Kawhi Leonard was the Finals MVP last season, and he gave the Toronto Raptors a championship. So if that happened, there's a probability that he can also bring the Los Angeles Clippers to the championship.

Think about that; doing some research about previous results can help you predict on which team you should place your odds in the present. It will help you to earn profits and enjoy yourself at the same time.

Just analyze my example above. There's a lot of factors to consider, so don't just say that it is unpredictable. Yes, it's unpredictable, but you should still look on the positive side and believe in yourself and be confident.

you'd have chance of winning on some other sports like boxing or MMA, some underdogs can shock the world with just pure strength and timing. an undisputed no loss can just get 1 with one mistake by turning his back from his opponent and you can win big with their odds. this had happen many times while i have been following fighters on MMA.

lime versus page is not something we expect but it happened. check this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob9vcaAlnxk

Yeah, besides that, I don't usually choose odds greter than 2.5 which is I considered to be risky. I always do live sports betting so that I can anticipate the capacity of the team. I'm not that good in sports betting but I'm having a good profit for being patient and safe in choosing bets.

You are asking about how to win in gambling with high odds.There is only one answer for that and is that you should know very well each of the team playing and place your bet accordingly.This is easier to say than to do though,it is a very difficult thing to achieve.

If you think that low odds win always you are completely wrong,I think a lot of gamblers here have lost a lot of money from low odds game.

There is no strategy, just luck. Do not expect to win on high odds, because the higher the odds, the more likely that the team will lose. Only luck can get you a win in it. Like, during the match a star player of the other team gets injured, then that can lead to a win for the underdog.

But if you are asking to beat the oddsmaker and getting the high odds, it is almost impossible.

i think there is  . look at the op .  he says that its easy to win on lower odds .

 i can consider that as his strategy but he can always follow it and win at all times than expecting for more riskier ways which is not really guarantee to give a win  .

 gambling sports still require some luck though because sh*t do happen sometimes on every kind of gambling games  .

Don't say it is unpredictable but it is unpredictable! I think your statement didn't concede in what you are saying, And what am I saying is the outcome can be different even though Kawhi Leonard is MVP didn't mean he is enough to win the Finals, Basketball is a game of teamwork and sometimes there are unpredictable things that may happen in the ball match until the match isn't over the outcome may still change,

Yes, the possibility of a passive win because of research and recent winnings may have a positive outcome, but I am saying that there are the unexpected things that may happen in every match there are certain people risking this to win big.

 

I always bet on favourite winning odds before game starts with my knowledge about game and players details, because it will give good odds before game starts and my strategy give me good results as 70 to 80% profits.

You are confused, OP is asking how to win on high odds. He already knows that low odds are almost a sure win, that is why he wants to know if there is a strategy to get the high odds and win. At least that is how I understand his question.

It would really be hard yet low odd selections is normally being favored and no bookies would offer high odds on that.Strategies? Theres none.
Selection of bets would depend on yours.If you do see an underdog of the game does have the chance to win on certain game/match then
you can possibly win but as said this is always been unpredictable but somehow these situation are plausible.

I don't think there's a hidden system for that unless you get to have insider information on who would "sell" the game so as to get those insane odds in their favor. Fixed matches in football isn't really a new thing, though they're highly unlikely in regular seasons, especially in high-tier tournaments like the Champion's League and other premier titles. If you're tired of hitting those low-profit games, try to make a parlay off of it and see where it leads you. Though again there is a certain risk when trying to get the games in parlay as there is always a possibility that a game might be dropped even if the odds are ridiculously close to 1.00x

There are surprise games that even the low odds lose. I reckon the answer about no such strategy can know. When I bet with other sports / e-sports, I always check their history and past games.

I haven't come up with other strategy unless there are some news break about those teams or the upcoming matches.

In sports betting the only way to have a higher chance of winning is by studying or reviewing all of their past games.
And because of it you could make a conclusion on which side is way more better and have a higher chance of winning.
So it all comes down to your own skills of analyzing each team.

If you are talking about the team to win, upset always happens in sports and there is always a chance to happen. There is really time that an underdog can surprise the favorites by many factors on which we will just only saw once the game is started.

There is no "how to win". It's all about how the whole game will be performed.

The strategy is the experience and knowledge about the sports and the performance of the team itself on whenever they are considered as an underdog.

Yeah exactly mate it's normal low odds are have a chance of winning, for me as gambler better to bet into the high chance of winning its okay to get low odd winning benefits is the important to get a highest chances of winning than to be greedy with low chnace of winning.

Regardless of the games you are playing in sports betting, there's always an odds that we can choose when betting.
There's no permanent strategy that would work because every game has different odds and although normally the lower odds won but it's not worth betting if the odds are too low that we need to win many times to at least get equal of what we have risk.

I actually made some experiment in the past by betting on odds 1.20 and lower but it was never successful as there are odds that low that could also lose, especially when the public is pounding them hard.

Also, do consider about games being rigged, analysis based on the odds is useless in that scenario.

My only basis is my own knowledge of the team. There is no specific strategy for this as the output is always unpredictable and can even destroy the favorite picks. If you know the sports or a team much and always follow the league, you can somehow analyze if that high odds can be achieved.

Knowledge really plays an important role. But as a sports bettor, don't always deal with the high odds just to target a big reward in return for an obvious reason. Only consider choosing those high odds if you think that's worth to put a shot.

We do even see 1.01  betting strategy as we have seen on previous threads earlier on this gambling board as some sort of experimental
but whats the result? It isnt really that worth on the amount you do risk on. 1.5+ is considerable but never ever consider on going below that.
Favorites would most likely won each game but as said there were scenarios where least favorite do triumph on end game.So anything can happen even
you do bet always on low odds.

I saw that too but I wasn't update with the thread anymore because I don't think that betting on that very low odds would give success in sports betting.

Definitely, you don't just rely on the odds and just bet blindly as there are odds that was only created to deceive people.
I've experience betting and losing in odds that even below 1.50, the explanation is simple, the public is betting on it, so a lot of money flowing on one side only and that resulted to a trap as the underdog won the game.

There's a lot of instances like that so we also need to be careful on choosing the odds, just evaluate the odds first before betting.

Use your instinct and bet on it. That's the risk of sports betting. You want a big return, then take the risks. You want to be on the safe side, then choose low odds. But for both, we will not know what will happen until the game is over.

Even professional sports bettors can be wrecked if they will force to bet on a high odds that's why instead of choosing it, they will choose instead the closest thing that might happen for fair odds.

If i'm not mistaken the odds determined by win ratio so more chance the teams to win the match then the odds also will low and the percentages to won bets with high odds near to 50% but in my view sport betting results depend on how much money do you win and if you can able to won the bets several times with low odds why you should aiming high odds which is risky than bets with low odds

Well, viewing their past history would only tell why the odds are like that. They're placed with higher odds because their chances of winning are not as much as their opponents. It can be a lot of factor. Skill, players, experience. It could be that their competitors are better in most of these aspects or all of these aspects. The bigger the risk, the bigger the reward. That's a common law in gambling. Upsets don't always happen in sports matches that's why you get much less money betting on the superior side.

Winning with high odds weren't possible with some strategies, because we can't conclude a game to move on the direction we've predicted. A small change in the game will change the entire results. Only possible way to get win out of selecting high odds were through tricks. Select a game where the odds were almost same around 1.8, further based on the match scenario odds will change. Just block a high point and bet. This will give better chances of winning high odds and this is possible only with websites supporting live betting.

Usually you will get a low odd for a team which is more stronger and have more chances of winning. On the other hand you will get a high odd for a weaker team. Now its upto you on how to bet on which team. You may bet on a low odd with more chances of winning unless an upset happens or you may hope for an upset and bet on high odd team.
Usually i prefer sometimes to bet on a high odd with less amount of money, so in case of a loss, my money loss is also less and sometimes i get lucky and wins too.

Well, it's always going to be a probability and not a surety that you will win a high odds in soccer betting.
There is no amount of research or strategy that will make you fluent in winning each and every bet but you can surely come up with a game plan with making successive bets of smaller amounts and thus netting an overall profit which in turn is a possibility.
Just research about the performance of the team that is playing and make your bets strategically and you will do go.

So you are saying that you can easily win in sports betting with low odds? did you keep a record on it?


TBH, I don't usually bet on low odds as although it gives a higher chance of winning but in return of your amount risk, you won't be getting a good amount.
I like to satisfy myself by betting odds like over 2.00 and its really challenging but its possible, and I believe you can do that if you are good in the sports you choose, this is just about being more consistent in winning so you will be profitable in the end.

^ Background check is very important in picking a team and you should know their weakness and also the opponent team.
So, I prefer to bet with low odds but I have a successive win, 50/50 or let's say, underdog team is very risky to bet because the chances of winning are very low. So, it's up to you. Taking a high risk and possible high return or maintaining the small but successive win. Nevertheless, in my part, betting low odds is my favorite.

I think seeing some of the star players is an important factor for football predictions, because I think knowing one of the star players would at least be a plus even though the team has low odds.

Team games can't be that easy, one person can't win games, teamwork is very important and I'd certainly choose a team perspective not individual players but as a whole team. If I have this, then I put my bets into the higher odds cause our chances of winning may easily be determined.

And in the opposite also( low odds) if I'm not confident with teams. Though we have such kind of perceptions but not a guarantee of winning cause even putting into small odds could still lose as well.

Looking at past history for a match or a team that will compete I think it is no longer effective to apply in gambling for now because back again, gambling is about luck and many other factors. About getting high odds I think it's easy to do but again, winning or earning from high odds is very difficult, but when you feel playing with low odds is easy to win, then try to make parlay bets in the next gambling with a strategy that similarly, the difference is you only need to place all bets in the parlay so that you get high odds, because if you want high odds with a single bet I'm sure it will be harder and your chances of winning are very low.

Yeah, I forgot about this factor. You can lean on those players that are considered to be the best on their team and this is applicable to every other team games, sports or e-sports.

But if the both teams has their own star players, you'll also come to the point of knowing the game itself and their past games which will lead you to analysis.

Yeah that is correct and regardless of the game you are playing, bookmakers will give low odds on teams that are favorites to win but as a gambler, do you think that betting on low odds all the time gives you success in gambling?

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I have an answer to that, based on my experience its not because not all the time that low odds will hit and you need to win again like 2 to 3 games because you can get back your loses. What I'm doing now is I stop chasing the low odds but rather I always place my bets on 50/50 payout or more but I do it with a limited games only when I am convince that I the team that I will choose will win with the betting spread I have to take.

Sports gambling depends on the knowledge. If you have good idea of the skill sets that opponents hold, you can easily predict the outcome. This is why people prefer to place bets on sports so that they can make victory certain. The times when outcomes are different than the expected ones are rare. So we can say that the luck factor is not too much involved into these kind of bets. If you really win 70 to 80 percent of times, good for you then.

In playing soccer most of the time, people think if you are betting on the under, there is a high probability that you will win that particular game, but it was too risky, in playing gambling and especially the sports betting the two chance is 50/50. Still, this is your decision where you will bet. If you know, sports bet like in soccer, and you can use this as an advantage because there is a lot of analysis and data for each player and also their previous statistics, wins, and lose if you want to win all those games, better to improve your knowledge too.

Dominic Thiem vs Alexander Zverev  1st set total games (over 10.5) avg. odd 2.50
good luck people...

Ive been doing this stuff too but it wont be easy as it sounds when we do talk on choosing the right game we do seek into.Not a usual case for least
favorite to win that's why it will always vary into your selection if it would be worthy or not.

Its better to have few bets on considerable odd returns rather than having or chasing up low odds anytime because 1 loss will really consume too much time on recovering up on the capital used.

Well in soccer betting the lower the odd the higher the chances of winning the bet thus the best way to have an higher odd is to combine two or more lower odds known as accumulating although it also comes with a higher risk that is if one of the game is lost out of the combined odds then the whole bet is lost even if out of five accumulated games one is lost the whole bet is lost thus more riskier than a single but low odd.

I found it right that low odds does not always guarantee the win. Sometimes it would depend on the sports we're betting on and analysis on which player or team has the best chance of winning.

I think team which get underestimated by people need to prove themself can win in soccer. Like for example if we pick on who win in the match. Or maybe fixed match like what people said and if it is really happen in soccer match. Maybe with that high odds, people usually avoid it and only more like to discuss about odds that usually people pick to make safe bet.

Anyone with a serious interest and craze of soccer can easily make accurate predictions. If the gambler watches all games or most of them, he wont have to look at all the available data to make analysis and come up with the outcome at the last moment. He can do that by just knowing the names of opponent teams. Sports betting is one form of gambling where it is not only about luck.

club history still seems to be the main choice when betting football gambling, my advice is to still choose high odds for betting and, because our main goal is to win in gambling.

Betting on soccer requires a minimum of 50% knowledge in the field of football and not guessing the origin because it will approach defeat, and actually it's easy before you bet, you only need to check the two teams that will compete and see statistics from previously met and check the winning score during meeting the two teams and who has more wins, and paying attention to the team's playing strategy and seeing the players who will play and the reasons.
for further you can check it on the internet which will provide clear information and you must read in detail because this will be your chance to win.

Even if you have the best players in the industry they will still lose sometimes. As far as predicting underdogs. There is no way just take your gut instict. A good offense vs a good defense is usually a close scoring game! Its also pretty low scoring if you bet over/ unders.

As I understand it, only mathematics works here.

If your chances of winning are 33%, then you will win in one case out of 3.
You must also understand that there is an error in a short distance, which means that you can lose 100 times in a row, but in a long distance, for example, in 100,000 bets, your chances will always be 1/3.

Based on this, you should look at odds and calculate the potential profit at a distance.

No one knows our chance of winning, if you only based it on the betting odds, I tell you that is not our chance of winning.
Why I'd say that, because odds are very deceptive, we think its a guaranteed win by that odds but its not, sometimes it's just a trap to entice people from taking it.


Stop.... 100,000 bets? That's years of gambling and if you do sports you don't do that, you go with quality over quantity, its even recommended to just bet like 1 to 3 bets a day so you can choose the games to cap properly.

By analyzing the figures you mentioned, which indeed are correct, I cant resist myself from saying that it is ridiculous to calculate profits with such chances of winning. Losing 100 times in a row will eventually leave the player with no penny. So there is no way to make bets for 100,000 times. This is a way to low calculation in order to convince oneself for gambling. I would suggest rather to play for fun and not waste time on such calculations.

There is no sure win in terms of gambling and predicting teams to win. It is not that if you vote in high odds, you will have a lower chance of winning. There is still a possibility but at a lower level, so you need to make a perfect timing where you think the high odds will win at that certain time or game.

In order to win, seeking information about the history of the teams and their records will give you information for you to base on those statistics. The better the record, the better the percentage to win if you vote on that team.

Good luck on your predictions, just observe technically for you to be able to get what you want.

I agree with you, soccer gambling must know the history of the team that will play, because that way it will be easier to predict which team will win.

Still not easy, sorry to disagree with you.

There are a lot of sites now that could provide you all the details you need on the history of the team and with some sophisticated data analysis but it does mean predicting a bet to win would be easy, I say,.. it's easier said than done mate.

I agree with you, seeing the match history is not an easy way to predict which team will win, I think of it as a reference only, because there are other things that must also be considered for example the currenct team condition, is there a mainstay players will be absent because in my opinion this can greatly affect the final result.

To confirm that you win the bet, you must be good with its knowledge. Otherwise, gamblers can place bets on sports but forget about winning matches for sure. Gambling is an unpredictable game overall. Sports betting is same to some extent, at times, result are opposite to what they were supposed to be. Then there is this disease of match fixing but it is not a big trouble in soccer games.

yeah right, actually the predictions about football have been circulating a lot on the internet we just need to listen to some of these predictions, of course the internet prediction data is a fact but the conclusions of the predictions are different. We only need to analyze predictions and consider what we analyze directly, then we will find the right conclusions. At least we only need to understand the game of soccer and plus point if we can follow all the matches.

I myself am not drawing conclusions from internet prediction data that I often analyze and see in terms of soccer matches, but I am not proficient in unpredictable ball predictions. I know I can only analyze the top European leagues because the game alone, of course I can predict, of course I have guessed which will win.

I believe that you will not be asking such question if you have understood how odds works and how it impacts your profit levels. Low and high odds are purely depending on how many people bet on one particular sport event. So, there will not be any possibilities for predicting to win big profits for the same betting amount. If you risk big amount and your prediction will be right then you may profit in big levels, but odds has no role in maximizing your profits as it basically denotes how many gamblers on your side to share your profits.

Low odds will always win; Okay but do you notice that easily predictable side always has low odds? It is because of more number of gamblers go betting for an easy prediction.

In almost all the sports, underdogs may surprise the strongest team occasionally. In that case, high odds' side will win because most gamblers go wrong with their predictions. So, the gamblers who predict the UNLIKELY event gets more profits. So, if you focus on rare winning then you may profit in high levels :).

The number of gamblers betting on some game should not affect outcomes of the game in anyway, particularly Sports. For instance, there is a cricket match that is taking place between Afghanistan and south Africa, then most probably South Africa will win. Most Gamblers having knowledge of cricket will bet on South Africa. In this case, the odds are not affecting the results of the match. Sports are not luck based.

My strategy, for example, is that I completely refused the services of cappers and bookmakers.
I tried for myself forecasts based on artificial intelligence on this site (https://bproexpert.com/). I started with the trial package, now I bought a paid package.
So far so good! ;) ;)

hmmm,care to share what kind of site is that?since there is a package that offers meaning it is a service?or something else about gambling?sorry you are a newbie and it is hard to trust sites that shared by you.
for my strategy?i used nothing but Instinct and some bets with great palyers so i can have a chance of winning lol.Odds are Good but Luck is much better for all of us who gambles .

You guys should know that youve been bumping an old thread.

For sake of on topic talking about low odds winning probability, of course it would really be set out that way yet favorites would most likely to win
so its already anticipated that those would be the odds.

Strategy? Depends on your analysis yet each person does have different level of knowledge on a certain sport theyve been following.

Forr me its depend on how you analyze the sport gambling and tell what you predict about it. Also giving prediction about gambling sport the possible winner is reslly helpful especialy to those people placing their bet because they trusting the sport prediction because they knew it from analyze and compared to a problem-solving by experimental and especially trial-and-error methods it also used with strategy that uses only actual data.

Sport gambling predictions are so much difficult and in viewing their past game is not yet effective because I also used that kind of strategy last time but I realized it doesn't to make predictions in their past game because it is already happened and it wouldn't happened again. My strategy that I do is to know on what's team are have a greatest teamwork with each other because there's nothing can beat a team without a teamwork so that I was watching their past games to know on what's team has a greatest teamwork.

   Kurokonobasuke you are right, teamwork always wins. It's why it's good to check news about the team before the game starts! Sometimes
team is not full, some players are banned from playing, some are injured, so if team is not full they will not be able to give their maximum and
win a game. I saw that some people go much further, they have information about players psychical condition, about problems they have, and
are they able to play good or not.
   

Predictions in gambling sports?  I think there are no persons who will believe to those who will give predictions  because in sports we need to consider the luck and also the skills of every player. I tried to use and follow some tips and predictions before that causes me to lose and have huge debt but I managed to overcome it and I said do myself that I will not follow predictions anymore when I do gamble.

You could look for another bookie or betting site that has a favorable odds on either side but not much bookies will go for that because they earn through unfavorable odds, you could go bet still but if it is on a losing team you might need some miracle to pull off a big winning.

Maybe this thread will answer some of your question since theres some sportsbetting advises going on here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200228.0

but to tell you watching their previous games and also the opponents will save your Money from losing because that is what sportsbet becomes the safest gambling place  we can be.

Sports betting when capping games needs your personal analysis, and you can't design a system that will just analysis the limited information you will feed, it's important to also understand on what team will get the public bet and the sharp money as that is very important in determining who will win and if games will be rig or not,.. yes, you read it right, I believe sports can be rig and you can't make a automatic system to determine which team do you think will win.

Because Sports betting needs bettors to be Knowledgeable to succeed.

Of course some gamblers will say it is about Luck but if you Know that team and how they Played?this is more advantage to take a win each game.

actually since the time i starts betting in sports i concentrate to understand how  the game goes and how each players of the team manage to play together winning the games.

First they need to understand the game, and to understand that knowing the game is not enough to win, they should dig dipper to improve their strategy, they can't be too complacent and feel they figure out how to win as they need to be updated and improve with the new strategy as necessary.



You'll feel the entertainment more when you are loving what you are doing and you think you have a chance win consistently in the long run.

the question is Do you really know soccer?or you are just betting for luck?

soccer is the most popular sportsbet in the world and people inside this gambling knows their team and also their opponents thats why some of them becomes successful and more chances to win.