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As you know , if you are trading at Dex you could easily see x100 pumps . After that pump, price down to usual point. So what is that meaning?  If any whale wants to collect the tokens, there are many better ways to collect them more cheaper. Any clue ? is that money laundring?

There are various explanations based on situation.
Throw some examples (token and exchange) and i'll explain it from economic point of view.


It might be. But it needs to be backed by volume from nowhere. If 1000$ was used to make pump (what is common on low volume coins on dex's) than it's definitely not money laundering.

most of times these are just "Pump and Dump" scheme.
Newbies see price growing and good volume, and they decide to invest in the coin... but they dont' know that some one is ready to dump all coins!
I don't think they pump a scam coin for money laundering..... I can't see any advantage for a trader
there are some scientific papers about this argument e.g: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3267041

Could you pls explain  mdab/bnb trading? here is the link ; https://www.binance.org/en/trade/MDAB-D42_BNB
2 days in a row, this is just an example there are many tokens like that at various exchanges.

this is not newbie buying, he is buying approx bought 30K $ in one pump minumum...how can we read it?

nice whales are already in the dex?  must be too afraid an exchange will freeze their accounts. risk free and i guess that's a reasonable than sending thousands of USD but locked by a scam exchange.

i'd probably ride the pump if there is an opportunity but going to be careful if the token is very unknown like that MDAB. binance dex would be a great place for them to do it.

It's possible about the money laundering theory, but it's hard to proved it.


What we all know is that there are a lot of p&d signals groups around. And they mostly breed in DEX because they know that mostly beginners are trading on DEX. So together with whales and p&d, they are going to pump a certain coin of their choice to x100 and then sold and then take the profit, easy peasy.

what happens to dex, especially Binance dex is often triggered by the pumps of their own dev and the whales just welcome it. There is no specific reason for money laundering, but this is more valid because they have the power to do it, I call it the quick profit mode. The interest of traders in Binance dex is different from the others with a slightly better volume day by day.

Actually there are too many ways to manipulate coins, especially on DEX or even in Binance Dex. But since we don't have any proof we can be predicting on it what is a possible scenario that happens. Perhaps, that was probably on the pump and dump group. Buying at large amounts at a time and then lure traders also to buy, but when the big whales hit the target they will sell all they had. O another thing is just a simply manipulating the price on the said exchange.

People that pump coins (so who bought 30K in one pump) he is not the newbie.
The newbies come after these big movement and then decide to invest.
If a pumper get coins from a range of 1 satoshi to 10 satoshi, he is able to dump coin with a great gaining until price touch 2 satoshi.

If you want @absurde you can send a MP with information regarding this coin/trade and I will take a look into....

sure, but you can see the trade link above https://www.binance.org/en/trade/MDAB-D42_BNB , 2 days in a row , this is not pump & dumb groups i am sure about it, i have been trading long time to realize it. 

E.g.
the other explanation, other then a pump and dump scheme, can be an "insider trading".
Likewise, they are ready to issue a news and meanwhile they have taken some coins in DEX.
(DISCLAIMER= this is just an hint and not directly linked with this token )

As usual with this kind of scheme, when they do pump out a particular shit coin then announcing and spreading shills would be the next job.
They would find innocent and noob traders to buy out that peaked priced shitcoins that they had recently pumped.A typical P&D which isnt surprising nowadays.

Is this money laundering? No! General speaking it doesnt involve about this matter heck we can check out the volume of such pump and
we dont even know on where those funds came from so we cant really point some fingers on here.

It depends on the coin. We can give a better explanation if you can show a specific coin recently who pumped at x100 on Dexes.

In general, the scheme has the purpose of manipulating volumes so that others will fall on the ride. It's not about there is a better way to collect more cheaper coins but pumping the coin also contributes to a form of advertisement and good marketing. If traders see that a certain coin, shit or not, do have an interesting volume that might be fit today or short trades, they will put that coin on their list. Only via pumping it is a good way to market it to create sounds compare to posting ads.

Well, money laundering is definitely out of question because even if they do they have too much risk of losing the value due to the volatility. I think it's just a usual price manipulation maybe the devs are trying to keep their coin alive by pumping their own coin because most of the coin in dex have low volume anyway so you dont need so much money to pump and they are trying this hoping that people will start to buy and they can then dump their coin afterward. I also couldnt see how whales profitting from pumping this coin anyway.

I think it's just because DEX have really small orderbooks, no market makers and the trade graphs are not regulated or intervened with in any way to look nice.

It's not money laundering but it'a actually their strategy to easily manipulate the market, making profit from the weak hands that already bought that particular shitcoin at its high price. It's not difficult to understand since what they are doing isn't difficult specially if that shitcoin is only available in one exchange only.

Yes, not money laundering at all! If you are long enough to witness those pump and dump schemes, you will say that it is a regular dirty strategy of those group of people to amass a lot of profit for their own gain. They don't care other investors or small timers who are losing their hard-earned money for not seeing such price manipulation. This is the reason why, if you are an investor, you need to really look at the foundation of the project and not checking only the trading charts. You will understand what's happening if you will dig deeper about where it's coming from.

That's the basic cycle and logic of trading. DEX isn't an exception because it also happens to the popular centralized exchanges so don't get it wrong and surprise why it happens. Dumping always happens in every altcoins.

They collect for no reason but they are taking it cheaply and once it pumps, they'll sell it without a doubt and won't do a buyback.

People buy and sell from themselves to make it look like the coins price is going up trying to fool someone into buying it, usually doesnt last long unless some poor sap buys in.  Dont buy into pumps and dont sell into dumps (unless there is an obvious reason) and you should be fine.  Manipulation runs these small volume coins.

That's price manipulation and with the low volume in DEX, it would be easy for a person to do that.
just understand how to play the game so you will end up profitable, actually I am not trading in DEX anymore after the bull run as the volume just keeps dropping.

Just bear in mind this simple analysis, if big exchange can be manipulated, how much more this small exchange.

Exchanges like this are more prone to whale manipulations and its pretty normal with a small coins. Its not laundering its legal in cryptomarket and if you are a trade you can see that everyday. The pump and dump is the best way for a whales to make money, they are pumping a small coin and exit later on. Don’t fall on this trap better to have top coins than to a lower coins that can easily manipulated.

Well 30k$ is not worth to laundry. You can exchange that much in 1 Bitcoin ATM for cash without KYC fully anonymous.


It means that daily volume is equal to 10$. In my opinion this particular pump is just arbitrage bots mistake or fat finger error/newbie mistake.

This pump volume was only ~100 000 MDAB

https://i.imgur.com/QS9Foqa.png
I don't know if this order made in trust wallet will pump price as long as i have funds in my wallet to buy 100 000 coins for me or it will buy xxx coins for 39 BNB but i'm sure that this order won't be fulfilled correctly because as we can see to buy 100 000 MDAB you need to pump coin x100.

It is an exit pump. First they must ascertain how shallow the sell orders are. If it is cheap enough, they would buy to pump price and then sell back to the newer and hopefully deeper buy orders. If the sell side is not shallow, it is not profitable.

Standard pump and dump I think. Small volume coins are easy for whales or P+D groups to manipulate. As always it relies on luring in FOMO victims. Unless you are very confident in what you are doing, I would advise to stay away from the low cap stuff.

This thing is ocassionally happen at crypto investment and even you can see it at centralized exchange such as binance. Have you know when bittoren was launching? Its price was experiencing increased a lot, I hope you know it.

May I guessed? You made this thread just because you see there is a coin who has been increasing for almost 1500%, isn't it? If I suggesting you must be familiar with this thing. Even, you can see it everyday at coinmarketcap, there is a feature namely the bigger and loser coin.

I don't have any idea to comment what whales did to this market. Clearly, without them the market cryptocurrency just will like another place of investment such as forex and etc.

On small exchanges such as Dex, a small amount of money is enough to make the pump of price of a coin with little or no volume. It is definitely not money laundering. Much more likely that are actions of pump&dump groups. There is many groups like this on Telegram. Usually, only the founders of the group, who buy coins earlier and sell first during the pump, make money on this.

DEX has very low volume, it means no liquidity and whales are easy to do pump and dump in that exchange
whales just need few money to pump coins. and whales can get money by fooling the noobs
you should avoid that and invest in better coin and better exchange

Not always whales succeed with this type of pump&dump. With such a large amount of coins, it is difficult to hit the one that will be pumped, but earlier it was quite easy to find a coin whose price dropped slowly for a longer period. Then at a very low price you could buy as many coins as possible and just wait. Mostly within a few days or weeks the pump appeared and you could earn x00%. Unfortunately, with such a large number of shitcoins as it is now it is very difficult.

We'll see huge whales entering DEX's soon enough. If you got into BTC early, and want to trade without anyone knowing, a DEX is the perfect choice to move money around without exposing your identity.
Volume is the biggest hurdle right now, but adoption takes time.

Now, Imagine those who actually RUN these DEX's through masternodes. They'll make a KILLING off DEX fee's in the next coming years. I'm sure a project like Blocknet could become MASSIVE in terms of a passive income opportunity. For the first time in years, it's actually affordable to a human being to buy a masternode, which is my plan. I've got a few other projects in mind that I want to invest in as well. ;)

I agree with your opinion, they themselves are doing the "Pump" (the coin developer).  and tricks like this are no longer a public secret, I know this from an article, where written tricks what a large company do to attract buyers...  That developers or company manipulate by buying products (stocks, coins or other) that they sell and then re-selling when prices have gone up high.

1. i didnt say that whales always success to PnD
2. it is not about total amount coins, but liquidity exchange
3. the fact is, high volume is more liquid than low.

Which DEX do you mean, if forkdelta or etherdelta is the same as buying a high-priced trash token, DEX works where all users can buy where the price you want to buy, for example you see the highest buyer price is 0.00005 ETH but I will manipulate the price there deliberately bought at a price of 0.002 ETH and only bought a small amount of funds, so what was recorded was the price of 0.002 ETH each token on the marketcap, so it looks like a pump even though there is no value at all, if there really is a pump on the idex or binance.org exchanges might just want to buy it as a long-term investment

Are you talking of short term or long term, because honestly, I never see a short term pump of 100x in any DEX.
can you point at least one example here?

The meaning is simple, its a pump and dump scheme that we usually see in the market, its manipulation at its best
You should be aware and get used to it, if you understand the market movement, then for sure you can find a working strategy that will help you to be profitable trading in DEX.

I don't think that is a sign of money laundering. In my opinion, it is just a normal thing when people's buy bags of cheap shit coin and play pump and dump with those cause the capital needed to play with cheap shit coins is way more affordable than to play with popular coin.

It is definitely money laundering action and DEXs are great places for it to do this easily. when our account needed only 12 seed phrases and we were able to start trading hundreds of thousands of dollars and no strings attached.
That is why DEXs last so long while transaction fees are expensive and the volume is low. Ideally, we should not use these types of DEXs, which is the playground of the shark.

I'm convinced that we'll see way more like this in the future. There are tons of wealthy people who wants to move money around without anyone knowing about it, and it's the perfect place to do just that!
I'm sure that real DEX's will be used a LOT if we ever get full adoption of the blockchain technology. Millions of dollars will flow through the Blocknet DEX, Komodo's Atomic DEX etc. Just wait and see!

Whales do it not to collect cheaply, but to sell at a high price. They buy the orders in the sales order book and reach a sufficient price. Afterwards, those with little experience are deceived into this game and want to take advantage of the price increase. At the same time, the whales start selling. If the plan is successful, it is possible to make a profit.

Oh you mean money laundEring?  Why would money launderers necessarily care about making huge profits on an exchange with crypto?  They wouldn't.  Money launderers only care about changing up their money, not gambling with what they've got.

It's the fucking money laundering which is marring the reputation of bitcoin, even if the same thing happens with fiat currency more so than with crypto.  Makes my head ache.

Yeah, great opinion!  You must be getting paid to post excellent opinions like this!

Lol.  The gov't is the worst offender of wasting taxpayers' money, and money laundering is a drop in the bucket.  The only reason why law enforcement goes after these people is because they're not paying the gov't a kickback in the form of taxes.  Fuck that.

That's basically the reason of it and nothing else. They are doing the pump so when it comes to their time, they can dump it gaining a huge profit. They don't care if they ruined somebody else's savings as long as they are gaining money, that's all they care. That's why they are called whales.

There's a pump group in telegram so maybe try to join and see if their call is really effective.
As for me, I never experience being benefited in the pump group but I am just surprise I am already part of the group.

It's really hard to find a consistent pump and dump group as most of them are scams, what I recommend are just those I notice but its up to you to conduct further study and analysis on the group.

However x100 pumps, I am not sure you'll achieve that in this situation.

Firstly, most pump&dump groups don't know anything, they are just a bunch of poor traders looking for a free ride from whales. Secondly, that spike doesn't seem to be a pump & dump scheme, more like classic fat fingers mistake. Either that or a test pump.

Because DEXs have relatively low entry requirements for listings - basically any ERC20 token can be listed.

This is much unlike centralized exchanges, where there are significant barriers to getting listed - there must be sufficient projected liquidity, there must be a good team and a reasonably mature community, etc. etc.

As a result, you see that the tokens listed on decentralised exchanges can be of significantly worse quality, and thus subject to much greater volatility due to the low liquidity within the market. It's really no surprise then that whales (or even any player with 1 BTC or so) can pump up these tokens so much.

If you are very smart, the longer you stay in the space the wiser you are and your decision will be more strategic. Have seen prediction in line several months ago from some experts I follow on twitter. The coin pump are not absolutely for shit coins alone, this trend didn't happen last year at a dipper price of bitcoin. I want to consider that the altcoins could hold on to their price as bitcoin pumps and could dump but response of traders looks like they split there investment into altcoin and bitcoin than in last year bear market when all investment is into bitcoin.

Those are pure pump and dumps in order to increase their Bitcoins number and nothing more so don't fall for one of those pumps. As you can see the all market is kinda in a small collapse and we might see further dumps and panic sells on all markets. Besides this I don't see any real clue why whales would perform such an action now when everything is red and there are no reason for dex coins to pump our of nowhere and also the volume there is really low so the necessary capital in order to make a pump is quite small.

The trading bots are used for pumping the tokens which have considerable volume and interest by other traders, crypto whales have the latest software like the news trading equipment in the spot forex market makers. AFAIK, the market makers in forex use the different trading software for cathing the unusual activity on specific pairs and they put the limit orders for riding the pump. A similar situation can be observed in crypto exchanges.

It's simple, whales always find a better way to make earned that is why its unbelievable to happened why shit coins made a huge pump even if the market value has in unstable condition. So, beware of this type of coin cause you might be a victims of losing out your capital investments.

Initially, one should not invest in such companies in order to avoid any manipulations in the cryptocurrency market and prevent fraudsters from earning money at their own expense.  One way or another, a bad coin was so originally, and did not become so after the actions of large whales.  It seems that big whales continue to support their idea of ​​pumping valuable cryptocurrency from ordinary users.

I also have some questions about big pumps at shitcoins. but what "insider trading" they gain from what? while they spend their money to buy worthless shitcoins?
Do you have any idea about this? Let me know, thank you very much.

The reason why they can easily pump it is because they own more supply of that tokens. If you will check a tokens in dex  you should also consider checking the volume and orders . They can easuly pump a coins if there are no selling orders.and only few tokens needed to buy to increase its price.

Because that is what whales do?

Remember, it could most likely be just 1 whale actually, buying up a loooot of coins, selling and buying between themselves to create volume and hopefully trick people who are newbies into buying when the prices are up. They do this all the time and even just use scripts to do it. They lose a little money but everything is gained back just by having 1 guy fall for it!

I believe that you do not need to be a whale to pump shitcoins. Most of them has no trading pile and you can create a "pump" on your own, by  investing around 10-15 dollars, you will be able to pump the price for x3-x10.

Generally the way pump and dump works is as follows. And this is no different from the stock market when you are dealing with a small cap stock or a penny stock. Basically what these pump and dumpers usually do is place a few very low bids and try and accumulate as much stock as they can for cheap without getting alerts showing in the volume charts which might attract attention. Usually they just do limit orders and never market orders. They do this for weeks or months. So say they accumulate 1 million shares at $0.01 so they invested a total of $10,000.

When they are done accumulating they usually do quick market buys to cause spikes and people will see +25% in their market reports or +1000% in total volume. And when people or bots see this, they automatically start buying the instrument.

Then they usually have some fake report that this crypto/stock is getting bought out and will be worth 100x as much, so the retail market sees this and they start to buy the stock at like $0.50 or $1.00 per share.

So the pump and dumper invested like $10K+ plus maybe another $10K+ pumping the stock and all they need to do now is just sell only 20,000 shares to break-even and the rest will be pure profit. Usually they sell slowly and when the trend is flattening out they start to sell quicker and quicker and eventually the last portion of their 1,000,000 position they might market dump and price will return to the $0.01 area again.

Rinse and repeat. Hence don't fall for these or you will be worth holding the bag at a 99% loss and later the stock or crypto will get delisted.

People who got screwed have only themselves to blame for. If you rely on someone else to tell you what to long and short you are not going to succeed in life. It's pure gambling that you do and nothing else.

Even those who sell signals are just guessing. Do you really think a trader with the right skill set will share his money making trades with others for a small amount? They don't need pocket change when they can make huge profits.

Also, one must love to lose money buying into something that has shot up vertically. That's never a sign of health in a market, especially when it comes to illiquid shitcoins that require little capital to pump hard.

You were right. it's just the act of money laundering that whales don't want anyone to discover. As you often see shitcoins are always pumped over 1000% or even higher but the buy order is still at the bottom price. it's a sign that the whales are gathered there to manipulate the value of the coin and the main purpose is money laundering.

There are many possible explanations to this. There is no single factor for such occurrences. If a certain coin is pumping hard in a particular DEX it is possible that there is really a demand for it. There might be information being passed around about an upcoming major announcement. That is a factor. It is also a factor that the devs themselves are trying to put more action to their tokens by creating a pump. It is also a possibility that some whales are creating pump and dump of the prices.

of course to Bag money because whales are addicted to use Pump and Dump strategy to victimized small investors.
how can you regret to invest if you saw that the currency is getting high and high value?but the sad part is after a while it will dump hugely that you cannot decide to withdraw the investment because of being a loser?
but if the Law are strict then this is money laundering and they must be punished but the sad reality is they are free to do such thing.

although at 100x pumps I don't think DEX will reach a large volume,
or maybe someone is selling incorrectly at a certain price, I often find it on DEX, like on IDEX or on Forkdelta

it COULD be money laundering, but that wouldn't be my first guess haha :P They are just making profits
Whales manipulate and control supplies of small cap coins, they can take only a few BTC in some cases, move a coin 200+%, and get others to FOMO in
Then they dump the cheap coins the have been collecting for weeks of the small cap coin. Rinse and Repeat.   In crypto its not even illegal as theres no one regulating body monitoring ALL exchanges : /

These whales who are the developers themselves know that there is only one way for their shitcoins and shittokens to get attention and it is by pumping them. But this should not be taken as a sign that these shitcoins and shittokens are gaining momentum due to their product. This is a sign that the developers which are mistaken as whales are not doing their proper job. They are choosing to do the easy yet absurd way to raise the price.

It may be so. Money laundering takes place on a lot of coins in the crypto market and everything is manipulated and many businesses that are born in the market seem to be just for money laundering.
Don't be so surprised when it is. The crypto market is born by sharks and it has to obey what sharks want. Without the capital of the sharks, bitcoin is now only $ 0.1 and forever $ 0.1. Do you think like me ?

And the way is worked because the OP know about it and tell us all here.  ;D I think if there are developers who pump their shitcoin, maybe they have reason for it. Beside to get people's atention, maybe they tired with complain from their investor why the coin not pumped yet. And i think for something like a token or maybe "shitcoins" that pumped in market, shouldn't really surprise with it. Or else we can get FOMOed by that.

The whales are baiting the people to have FOMO and buy the coin instantly and make the coins pretend to be a really good coin so people will think they will make a really big profits in the future if they kept the coins. But at the end the whales sell all theirs and leave the people stuck with loss

Yes, it should not come as a surprise to us. We should not be trapped by all these shady pumps. Sometimes these are done in order to attract the attention of traders and investors. But once they will buy, the prices will begin dumping again. Only the whales are gaining from it. And another thing, it is not hard to pump a shitcoin. A mere $100 is enough for many shitcoins to double their price and volume.

That's exactly what I was getting at. I don't think they have any clue what is going on with the market. They're just throwing coins out there and the reason they're going up is because it's something that the signal groups bought and told everyone else to buy. I don't think they have even the slightest idea on how to read a market. You just need a bunch of followers to pump the price of a coin up quite a bit.

Honestly, sometime it looks like real pump tho.  ;D Maybe that is why a lot of people still trapped, not resist if sometime we can see people trapped in a shitcoin that get pumped. It is natural because sometime if we see a chance, we wouldn't want to missed it and want to make profit with it.

I think something like that is not done by whales, but the dev from the token
The price of a token suddenly goes up, then significantly decreases by the developer to attract the attention of the token holder

See this scenario for so many times and many people thinks that the coin will pump for more that's why they get trapped for the hype coming at that time that's why we better careful unto this and we should not watch those shits since for sure they are the target of manipulators since they are easy to pump and manipulate by the whales who got bigger pockets.

you're right with both points. so p&d with such a small volume is almost exclusively one of the two.
i wouldn't recommend investing any time at all and ignoring it directly. in the end, you'll only lose money otherwise.

Why?
-They are the owner or the team of that coin.
-They have a pump and dump group who manipulates coin at Dex
-Because they are gaining if they pump it and investors are going to buy or sell it.

It's not money laundering. Lol, I mean this is a usual scenario in the crypto exchanges and in the crypto market. Don't be surprise at all, some may fall because of the sudden price pump of a certain coin but after buying it, it hardly pump again. It's because of that pump and dump group. You should be aware of that.

all you explain is pump and dump scheme, not money laundering. both are different.
but, i agree that's the reason why there are many pumps shitcoin at DEX
we all know that DEX has low volume, and it makes easier to do pump and dump scheme

Small cap coins would really be easy to manipulate and its a common thing for these kind of shit coin pumps and being obviously manipulated by those whales on where this do trigger out
the fomo feeling and when you are just new into this market then most likely you would end up on a trap.Most newbies would really have that perception that the price might even shoot up more
and when they do accumulate those shit tokens then thats the time they would tend to dump.There are no specific signals on which one would be pumped up and if youre lucky
or in connect with some whale then you might have an advantage on getting early.

All this Sounds rather deplorable, because all situations when cryptocurrency is used in various illegal actions causes negative for me.  On the one hand, I am very worried about the information when law enforcement authorities say that someone is selling drugs or weapons with the help of cryptocurrency, as well as using the cryptocurrency to launder funds obtained by criminal means.  This could lead to a ban on cryptocurrency.  But if you look from the other side, the state can fully legalize cryptocurrency in order to control the amount of money in the cryptocurrency market and have access to information about the sources of income of each cryptocurrency user.  This can play a very good role in the implementation of further plans of users to use cryptocurrency in everyday life of a person.

Agreed. It reminds me of when I entered crypto for the first time and had no clue about anything within this space. I was tempted to buy into such a coin myself but I'm glad that I didn't because it seemed too good to be true.

If you think logically, the price of a coin doesn't pump because of the group "pumping" it, but because the people buying the coin, which then attracts even more noobs that get excited and buy as many coins as possible. It's the sad reality.

it is common in DEX, many new tokens are there, of course their owner or CEO offers beautiful words to make FOMO happen in the community,
or maybe just manipulation  >:( ??? ??? ???

It will be nice to see an example of what you are talking about since depending on the information that growth can mean many different things, in the past I have seen coins going up in value as much as you are stating but when you saw the volume of the coin you could see no one was buying and selling the coin, so it was most likely an attempt to lure investors to buy the coin and create FOMO so they could sell their coins for those inflated prices.

Yup. Avoid buying in during one of these pumps or at an all time high at all costs. More than likely, even if you get in in the middle of a pump, you'll still end up losing money. That's because people have been buying this coin at a much lower price the whole time it was there. Then, they sell whatever they're holding into buy orders at the higher prices. So, by the time you get in in the middle, there's probably not many good buy orders to sell in to and you'll end up riding it back down in price. Basically, if you see anyone telling you to buy something because it's going to go up a good percentage soon, avoid it.

In reality, there are such a large number of approaches to control coins, particularly on DEX or even in Binance Dex. Yet, since we don't have any confirmation we can be anticipating on it what is a potential situation that occurs. Maybe, that was presumably on the siphon and dump gathering. Purchasing everywhere sums all at once and afterward draws brokers additionally to purchase, however when the large whales hit the objective they will sell all they had. O something else is only a just controlling the cost on the said trade.

This is always happening when the market are still on the bullish trend. They were not only creating FOMO but they were making a lot of little shrimps will be massively blindly buying such coin without try to DYOR.
There will be a lot of newbies will try to shorting it and the whales can take the advantage from there.
The whales are pumping but after there will be enough buy order and the whale will be dumping it again and it will worth nothing again. This is the real PnD scheme.

I've witnessed tons of PnD on Uniswap. So many BS tokens is listed there, so it requires very very little volume to pump a coin into the stratosphere and back.

Been trading at Blocknet's DEX for awhile, and really enjoy the fact that I can trade BTC LTC BLOCK and other coins. It's not built on Ethereum, which has it's advantages.
Their DEX is getting integrating into their multi currency wallet, which is getting released real soon (within a month or so). Here's how it's gonna look like: https://xlitewallet.com/

You don't see hard assets like Litecoin, Dash, etc moon on these DEX's, shitcoins does.. But that's pretty normal on traditional centralized exchanges as well.

I don't think it's the whale. The price of a new token on DEX is very easy to go up and down, because it does not have sufficient liquidity.

I don't think that's the whale's behavior, and the whale won't take any risks trading on shitcoins.
The difficulty of identifying legitimate trade volume and liquidity on DEX is sometimes exploited by most project owners to manipulate it. Of course their target is to attract people who aren't very selective in their interests.

not only on dex but that also happens in cex however cex are more regulated so shitcoins are controlled than dex which shitcoins can easily be listed . all coins can pump and usually its followed by a dump but whats the big deal with that , people just set thier sell order on that range to earn a good profit thats why .

what do you think are ways for them to collect cheap coins when dexes are the place you can find bargain coins and the best time to buy is after a dip .

Do you really have no idea about this?Whales tend to do that and not only in DEX even before Dex arrive Pumping and Dumping is already at place.

We have seen so many coins in the past that  from almost no Volume suddenly comes x50 to 100 for a period of time and then will back to where this started.

I mean They wanted to Use the Pumping as Bait so if you are not familiar in this system and by all Greed you Invested then you are the Victim.

Lucky those who are in timing to Ride then exit because for sure they will Bag some good amount.

They have deep pockets and have millions to spend on a token but a sudden surge can sometime be true, what i don`t understand is the meme token that shoot up 1.6k a piece and it was a joke token this shows how whales can easily affect a token price.

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It is not always the whales pumping, it is sometimes OTC traders who on demand buy from dexes and then transfer to the end customer keeping 10 to 20 percent as comission and if they find a big buyer the price can pump exceptionally.

Typical things that do happen in DEX which you can usually see in CEX ones where shit coins tends to pump 100x or even 1000x and that would really  give out possible profits for
those who do able to join the ride and devastation for those people who do join up on the peak.This is why you should really be careful on dealing with coins which you do see
that is mooning but if you can take up some gamble or risk then its your choice.Clues on why whales been doing this? no one knows but its safe to presume
that they been hooking out people who do tend to join with the hype and then release their bags and leaving those investors with burned wallets.

Ever since I'm into cryptocurrency investment i have never for once see whales pumping the price of shitcoin and the people that pump the price of shitcoin are signal group or liquidity exchange which uniswap is part of the decentralized liquidity exchange.
OP, if the shitcoin you're talking about is listed on uniswap it possible that the token has paid uniswap for liquidity services.
Mind you, shitcoin will always be shitcoin and if it pumps by some group it will later experience a dump in price.

I don't think it's the 'whale', most of the time its either the team/project itself or a third party paid by the project. It's not a new thing, even in conventional investment business this kind of thing happened. A project creates hype manipulating market, buy all their initially cheap coins, and then ask 3rd party to sell at a higher price, and buy that too. Bragging about their skyrocketing price pump, and when more people buy their coin, they will just cashout and leave.

Since at DEX i found it simpler to pump than on CEX, for example projects on uniswap can be pumped to x10 x20, and the problem are they doing for a big dump i think but coin There are small supply will be the shark choose to pump.

Not complicated as an exchange, there is no certain limitation for the DEX platform, which many whales pump he waste in order to make profits because there are some innocent based on pumping they will invest in those coins and it will help them to make some decent profit. It is completely waste thinking about the Dex platform and the coins listed there.

To gain profit just like manipulation or pump and dump schemes.
They would bes the first one to invest so they would also have the highest when they starts to dump it.

Whale pump shitcoin on dex to create FoMo. Ussually the cycle looked like this : Accumulation phase - Pump - News / Rumors - Dump / Distribution to retail investor.
There are also whale pump the coin to kill it and taking a profit from the coin, after pump and dump people will disstrust the coin/token.
Why on dex ? Because no KYC needed and no regulation on dex. It is completely wild market.

Because it's easy? I mean you can pump the prices on DEX and just make it look like there is an interest to it, and when prices increase for it, people will see that and will want to be part of it. The trick here is that you do not do it old shit coins, because if you do it on old ones, you are not going to get too much reaction, on contrary you will get a lot of people who will want to get out and sell.

However if you do it on new projects, people may think that project is awesome and they should be part of it early on, and will buy when they see price increasing a lot, at which point whales will just dump the coin on their heads and leave with the profits. When you are trading on dex, never trade because you want to make a quick profit, find projects that are good long term.

I often see it on polonidex and newdex the price can go up to 150% but the orders are not sufficient to actually profit. probably just the team trying to get their coins on top as top gainer. it work as a promotion for the project. but you really can't sell the bag of yours for the price that it is. the buy order is less than a hundred token. not worth investing in the inferior coins.

That is the valid due to low liquidity and low traffic on that DEX's it is much easy for them to make it pump and got attention of the newcomer to let them buy on high prices. This could be part of their advertising trick too but liquidity is more important for any project to survive in long term otherwise it could die very soon.

First, let's look at the trading volume, if the volume is not good then it's just purely a game, whether it's the whales or not, or whatever you call it, don't play their game if you don't know how to get out safe. DEX has lose its credibility already, it was only popular during the time of ICO.

The whales will not always choose the coin with small supply to pump it, the whales are pumping based on the news that has come before.
Did you see that a lot of big coins were pumped? That means the whales are also seeing the fundamental of coins to did a pump.
Dex is having small liquidity and it's very easy to pump it. You must know that there's also a big gap between sell and buy orders. that makes the whales can use the spread to pump the coin.

DEX or even in Binance Dex yet since we don't have any verification we can be foreseeing on it what is a potential situation that occurs. Maybe, that was presumably on the siphon and dump gathering. Purchasing everywhere sums all at once and afterward draw brokers likewise to purchase. I believe it's simply a typical value control possibly the devs are attempting to keep their coin alive by siphoning their own coin in light of the fact that a large portion of the coin in dex have low volume at any rate so you don't require such a lot of cash to siphon and they are attempting this trusting that individuals will begin to purchase and they would then be able to dump their coin a short time later.

They wont really pumping up something without any reason because even if theyre whales then such actions would really still need some consideration on why
they would really be making such step and of course they will be always aiming for their own benefit on risking out to pump a certain coin which they do sees that
people will be hooked up to have some that fomo feeling and when it raises up even more due to that bullish drive then they would really be releasing of their
bags later on and such step is really that worth since they do able to make money.
With DEX then its understandable with those big gains or multipliers yet liquidity isnt really that high which you can really easily pump out a certain
coin.

Not everyone can easily make 100x pumps on dexes; decentralized or centralized exchanges, you can make profits anywhere; but as a newbie trader or professional trader; why would you buy the bull? the green candles ? and also; you need to learn that it is not all bearish token that can be purchased; 80% bearish altcoins on dexes ends up delisted without volume; be resourceful and do your own research

I believe it's simply a typical value control perhaps the devs are attempting to keep their coin alive by siphoning their own coin in light of the fact that the vast majority of the coin in dex have low volume in any case. I need to consider that the altcoins could clutch their cost as bitcoin siphons and could dump however reaction of brokers seems as though they split there interest into altcoin and bitcoin than in a year ago bear market when all venture is into bitcoin.

I doubt that it is regarding any sort of speculation or manipulation situation because dumping your coins on a dex is not really a sure fire way to make money, it doesn't really provide anyone with any path to profiting. Think about it this way, if I sold all of my wrapped crypto kitties right now, how would that really help me?

How would that really profit me in the long run in a secret agenda? There is no way that could happen, and considering it is more expensive to even sell my wck right now because of costs involved, I would be even losing money while selling that token. Hence I believe they are just dumping for dumping case and nothing more, they are not doing it for any secret agenda that will provide them with more profit later on because there is none that we can see.