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Title: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: jasmine_crypto on November 25, 2019, 03:58:59 PM
This site https://www.atobmixer.com (https://www.atobmixer.com) AtoBMixer offering monero mixer, why use mixer for monero ? taught monero was untraceable

they also offer mixing for 16 different altcoin

but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: Nalbo on November 25, 2019, 04:19:43 PM
This site https://www.atobmixer.com (https://www.atobmixer.com) AtoBMixer offering monero mixer, why use mixer for monero ? taught monero was untraceable

they also offer mixing for 16 different altcoin

but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?

Monero is nearly perfect but there is a intentional attack called EAE attack that makes the receiver vulnerable if the sender intentionally wanted to find about sending many transactions and have a look at the volumes.

Monerooutreach.org explains it as
"Monero’s ring signatures provide plausible deniability, but they aren’t perfect. We model examples where two colluding parties ‘E’ attempt to learn information about an individual ‘A.’ By sending outputs to individuals and tracing their transaction graphs, these colluding parties may perform powerful statistical tests to learn significant information, especially for repeated transactions where they would not normally occur by chance."

Monero mixers claims to stop this.


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: asriloni on November 25, 2019, 04:56:02 PM
This site https://www.atobmixer.com (https://www.atobmixer.com) AtoBMixer offering monero mixer, why use mixer for monero ? taught monero was untraceable

they also offer mixing for 16 different altcoin

but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?

Monero is nearly perfect but there is a intentional attack called EAE attack that makes the receiver vulnerable if the sender intentionally wanted to find about sending many transactions and have a look at the volumes.

Monerooutreach.org explains it as
"Monero’s ring signatures provide plausible deniability, but they aren’t perfect. We model examples where two colluding parties ‘E’ attempt to learn information about an individual ‘A.’ By sending outputs to individuals and tracing their transaction graphs, these colluding parties may perform powerful statistical tests to learn significant information, especially for repeated transactions where they would not normally occur by chance."

Monero mixers claims to stop this.
But the only party who can argue about the possibility of the senders are the exchange sites. I don't even think EAE will be working with the individual.
The exchange site is the only party who can ask the identities of the users.
EAE is still a possibility to argue some candidates who are having the possibility to be called as spenders.

Add more mixing to the monero will actually solve this problem.


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: safari88 on November 25, 2019, 05:07:43 PM
but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?

i think it's not worth it because they just looking for profit so they made the website.
but from where did you found this website? because I'm afraid that the website is not trusted so your deposit will not be returned


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: Febo on November 25, 2019, 05:19:37 PM
This site AtoBMixer offering monero mixer, why use mixer for monero ? taught monero was untraceable
but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?

Yes, that makes no sense. I know someone made a "mixer" where you with one click swap Bitcoin to Monero and back to other Bitcoin. And you do that on tails so you do it perfectly. But this is different. Things that makes no sense are manytimes scams.


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: MATHReX on November 25, 2019, 06:16:29 PM
I read it somewhere and I'm not sure how much of it holds true for Monero.
It stated that if you use a remote node and not a local node to broadcast a transaction in Monero, that remote node can track the IP address of the broadcaster and link it with the public address.
It can be a big drawback in the privacy of the sender if that's the case.


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: ashmodeus on November 26, 2019, 02:14:47 AM
before it, i just asking about what AtobMixer is ?
they claim already alive since 2015 and in year 2017 we officially launched our services to the public as the demand grew for public mixing.
but there still no info about it, even on bitcointalk forum still no info about it.
just carefully, even BNB coins also on their list, i dont think coins like bnb need to be privated


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on November 26, 2019, 03:52:37 AM
This site https://www.atobmixer.com (https://www.atobmixer.com) AtoBMixer offering monero mixer, why use mixer for monero ? taught monero was untraceable

they also offer mixing for 16 different altcoin

but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?

Not necessarily. If you are using Monero (XMR) and your Monero (XMR) address is already tied to you, then you still need to use a mixer to cut any ties. It does not mean that Monero (XMR) will keep you away from people trying to link your address to another address to try to follow the movements of your XMR every step of the way. If you want to lead them to a dead end then a mixer is the best choice.


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on November 26, 2019, 12:42:30 PM
Be careful the site is not save to be visited, I just scared if the site is phishing attempt.

As far as I know there just a few mixing service who still alive, even most of them just accept bitcoin ETH and litecoin who can be mixed, but the site is offer almost 16 altcoin.



Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on November 26, 2019, 08:15:27 PM
The website/mixer was created 2 weeks ago so if you're trying to advertise your service here and haven't read the other comments, better not use the website. Chance of being scammed is too high.

Domain:atobmixer.com
Registrar:eNom, LLC
Registered On:2019-11-15


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: Atobmixer on December 05, 2019, 02:53:26 PM
Hi there ,

I am the working member for www.Atobmixer.com

i shall answer your question on this on behalf of AtoBMixer.

Monero is safe to the extend how you gained the coins initially. If through marketplace, then the trails of that is obvious

Mixer will cut this trails and provide new fresh coins.

Hope this helps you in wondering why Monero needs mixing

have a great day


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: Atobmixer on December 05, 2019, 03:03:56 PM
The website/mixer was created 2 weeks ago so if you're trying to advertise your service here and haven't read the other comments, better not use the website. Chance of being scammed is too high.

Domain:atobmixer.com
Registrar:eNom, LLC
Registered On:2019-11-15

Hi there Abang Batang.

Our mixer has been available on TOR since 2017 and now we are doing marketing on clearnet. Should you find any issues with our service , kindly do inform us .

ATOBMIXER


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: Mahanton on December 05, 2019, 04:32:45 PM
Hi there ,

I am the working member for www.Atobmixer.com

i shall answer your question on this on behalf of AtoBMixer.

Monero is safe to the extend how you gained the coins initially. If through marketplace, then the trails of that is obvious

Mixer will cut this trails and provide new fresh coins.

Hope this helps you in wondering why Monero needs mixing

have a great day
This is only applicable with most coins which  is traceable when it comes to transactions but for Monero? I dont know why its included on the list
yet we know that this coin is totally untraceable when it comes to done transactions thats why im little bit questioned on mind why its included.


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: Atobmixer on December 07, 2019, 07:43:06 PM
Hi there ,

I am the working member for www.Atobmixer.com

i shall answer your question on this on behalf of AtoBMixer.

Monero is safe to the extend how you gained the coins initially. If through marketplace, then the trails of that is obvious

Mixer will cut this trails and provide new fresh coins.

Hope this helps you in wondering why Monero needs mixing

have a great day
This is only applicable with most coins which  is traceable when it comes to transactions but for Monero? I dont know why its included on the list
yet we know that this coin is totally untraceable when it comes to done transactions thats why im little bit questioned on mind why its included.


Good question,

Say u use monero wallet on an infected computer, and it's vanurable, then it's not private, so say u wanna send the coins to another account, its becomes vanurable to tracking.. Run it through this mixer and the receiving address will be cleaned

Hope this answers the question


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on December 07, 2019, 08:43:28 PM
Hi there Abang Batang.

Our mixer has been available on TOR since 2017 and now we are doing marketing on clearnet. Should you find any issues with our service , kindly do inform us .

ATOBMIXER
Hey there, thanks for replying. I didn't know about that and I have based it on the whois of your clearnet link. Btw, I'm reading details and information on your announcement thread which is interesting if people should trust you or not.


Title: Re: Monero Mixer ? but why ?
Post by: Atobmixer on December 08, 2019, 11:35:48 AM
Hi there Abang Batang.

Our mixer has been available on TOR since 2017 and now we are doing marketing on clearnet. Should you find any issues with our service , kindly do inform us .

ATOBMIXER
Hey there, thanks for replying. I didn't know about that and I have based it on the whois of your clearnet link. Btw, I'm reading details and information on your announcement thread which is interesting if people should trust you or not.

Thanks for your feedback,

We have a review page that appears on top 3 search result on google search under atobmixer keyword, its great we have received some mixing clients from this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207219.0

If anyone to have any issues, kindly do leave us a word or 2 ,

and also upon successful mixing , we appreciate a review on that too :)

We plan to be in business for many many years.

ATOBMIXER ADMIN