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Why do you refuse to face the reality of the present state of the crypto market? I always laugh when I see people still talking about long term hodl when the reality is staring us in the face. Don't be a fool, only the smart are leading the race in the crypto sphere of today. Why do you decide to hodl when you know that the price may dump? Why not sell at the peak and then you can buy back at the bottom. The race is not to the fool but to the wise. Selling at the peak and buying back at bottom is wisdom but holding at the peak expecting a magic spike is foolishness. Bull run is not here yet, do not expect a magic spike. When the bull run is here, you don't need a prophet to tell you that. Be smart.

Many people keep cryptocurrency for a long time because it is one of the easiest ways to make a profit in the cryptocurrency market. I completely agree with your opinion that selling cryptocurrency at the peak of its price and buying at a recession is most effective in terms of profit. However, for this you need to study this market well and have a lot of time for such an activity. Not everyone has a desire and opportunity for this. Of course, cryptocurrency will not constantly grow in value. Only its new types and successful projects will grow or will it happen with the general period of growth of the cryptocurrency market. Therefore, you need to constantly adapt to changing conditions. Simple retention will not be effective in all cases, as in the securities market. Market laws are the same everywhere.

Even I used to believe in long term hodl but not anymore and I think those who were hodling till 2017 and cashed out can be described as benefit of long term hodl and as you rightly mentioned there is no point in hodling crypto during bear market and rather we can trader it accordingly and it's time to face harsh reality of the market and it's not going to be as easy as it was before 2018. If we need to earn then we need to stay active and keep trading utilizing all the opportunities as just investing and waiting is not going to help.

IMHO long-term holding are only profitable for Bitcoin and few altcoins because the market is still maturing but doing short-term trading is not bad either as long as you gain some profit. Also, don't forget that some people prefer long-term holding because of less hassle since they don't need to to be updated on the market movement everyday and just wait for the right time to sell.



Are you a prohpet that knows when is the peak and bottom ???

In my experience, I choose to go long term holding because it suits my investing attitude. I sell during peaks but sometimes I don't buy at the bottom because sometimes I call the wrong bottom.

A person that chooses to hold for long term likes to do it because it's base on his/her choice. Some tend to sell at wrong prices that's why holding suits them too.

The main thing is - nobody knows when peak and when the bottom:) How can you actually prognose such things? It is a game, gambling if you want, so somebody win, somebody loose and it is their choice. But for some people investing in BTC is just one of the ways to hedge their money, they invest in real estate, gold and in bitcoin too, so they dont thinking in such categories, they investing long term - 5,10,15 years..

Types of Hodlers from my observation:

• Those who just came in and never really experienced a 90% market crash (newbies)
• Those who refuse to sell because they re at an extreme loss. They chose to hodl and wait or hope
• Those who bought at floor prices and continues to accumulate at cheap. They're not really bothered with the price fluctuations.

There is really no need for you to mock those who choose to hodl. Each have their chosen strategy and you should not force them to follow your views or opinions. Be smart and mind your own investments.

It all depends upon the coin you invest, if you invested in bitcoin in the past before the last rally then you are in profit no matter what the market situation right now is, if you invested in shit coins then you need luck so that the project will survive the bear market. So smartness is all about investing in bitcoin at the right moment and if you did that there is nothing to worry.

By looking at the past, we can clearly see that crypto coins grown by leaps and bounds. People will think like "If I had invested in that coin while the price was low I would have been rich by now". So people invest and Hodl it now hoping it will make them rich. 99% will lose their money in this.

I think that it is a good moment to make your investment. The market runs in cycles and sooner or later, we would face another altseason and people that refused to buy ETH to 150 bucks will regret about their decision in the future.

It is true that many people's mistakes hodl long-term not in time, hodl Long-term  people at the time of bearish it is a big mistake if the market like this  trading using a scalp or mid-term strategy because at being bearish we should not be too long hodl coin

This is what people mostly said in 2015-2016 while bitcoin fell from 1k to $200... Do you remember what happened in late 2017? It went to $20k. Something similar will happen again and if you don't want lose your biggest chance to get rich this time, I suggest you to buy & hodl. Remember only 6 months left to the halving.

But it may go up too, even skyrocket and reach new ATHs so, I don't think many people are willing to take the risk of dumping their bags now when there's a chance of seeing a recovery very soon (same odds of seeing yet another drop).

The fact that you're saying this makes me think that you've been in this market for less than a few months or weeks. If only it were that easy to spot the "peak" as well as the bottom...Maybe you can stop being a smart ass and start lending us your crystal ball so that we can know exactly when to buy and sell cryptos to make insane profits, huh?

What a great advice you're giving to the community: buy low, sell high. I bet no one has ever thoght about this strategy before.

It sounds wise what you're saying but after the battle, anyone can be a general as my local saying goes. Of course you're regretting now that you didn't sell at 13k or even 19k (talking about bitcoin, for altcoins insert different numbers). But the real question is, what to do now. Sell because you plan to buy back lower, or hodl because there was a bottom today and the only way is up? Tell me what you gonna do smart guy.
I'm hodling because I think there won't be much lower prices and it would be stressful to wait for the right moment to buy back.

I think long term holding is a good strategy, but it has drawbacks. I think that you need to hold one part of the cryptocurrency and use the other part for trading.

How can you determinate that there is peak and that there is bottom. Yes you can determinate that now for past but at that time. Also the exact peak and exact bottom is a moment in time. Not to mention you need to have offers set on exchange so the one that bought at top buys from you and no one else. And that the one that sold on bottom sells exactly to you and no one else.   Why you believe you are not to be one of those sellers at bottom and buyers on top? There should be same chance to be so unlucky as are chances to be lucky to do as you plan to.

We have seen so many success stories of Holding long term, I don't know what you are basing your point on, the most important thing is to be convinced you are into the right project you can't just hold any obscure tokens and thing it would gained value overtime

You're talking about long term holding and you make a statement like this? 

If you truly are a long term holder of bitcoin, you aren't concerned about times like these when its value drops $500 or however much it fell over the course of a few days.  You're focused on its price months or years from now, not short term movements.  That's the whole point of long term investing.

Since what I described more or less applies to myself, I am not panicking about the price.  It could fall even further and it would not faze me in the least and in fact if I had some disposable income I would even be buying as much as I could.

Hodling has always been the best Investment strategy especially when you hodl for long term. Among all the existing cryptocurrency, bitcoin is the only coin I can bodly advice a cryptocurrency enthusiast to hodl. It has proven time without numbers that it's an asset you can rely on yearly to produce results. If I'm not mistaking, out of the 10 years of its existence only ones has it produce a negative outcome from how the price was at the start of the year. Even in the bear market, bitcoin always finds a way to produce positive outcome supposedly you bought at the beginning of the year and sold at the end, that's a one year hodling period.

Altcoins on the other hand, their hodling positive results aren't gauranted that's why I engaged them via trading for profit. If you aren't skilled and equiped to outsmarting the market it's in your best interest to avoid trying to do what the OP has just suggested, it'll definitely end badly.

There should be an end for everything and must not hold forever, you must still need to watch the market. There’s no wrong about holding, that’s a good strategy but i agree that holding must still be depend on the market trend and if you know how to buy and sell you can earn more than holding. Now is the time to buy more and hold short term after this because for sure the market will rise again.

To some extent You are right, but how to determine the peak?To sell at the peak and buy at the bottom, you need to have a huge intuition, which alas, many simply do not.

Hodling and cost-averaging should turn out fine over next few years provided you are hodling bitcoin and other top ranked coins. The prices will eventually go lot higher than the 2018 top.

You said it right. I also to lose money because of this mistake. But now I've really learned from it. Long-term holding may not always be relevant.

If everyone was able to estimate the price easily, believe me it would be everyone's choice to sell from high then get from below. No matter how knowledgeable you are, you can not estimate. So, instead of playing with these changes, the majority chooses to hold for a long time. There is no effort or psychological fatigue here. All you have to do is buy and sell when the time comes.

It's funny to read your message. Doesn’t it seem silly to you to write "why you cannot sell at the peak and buy back from the bottom"!? Let’s imagine that everyone would do it and it would work out for everyone. If this were so, then the manipulators would not be able to earn money and would leave the market, I think that then the price would roll to the floor of the market. After all, they create a price on the chart, and we just go with them with the flow, I think that only the lucky ones sell from the top, and buy at the very bottom.

this entire f*cked up market needs long term holders. They encourage it. Why? Because if you know for a fact the there is a variation that you can calculate on how much coins are bought and sold and how many will not do anything just hold, you can calculate your error with good margins.

For example: I know for a FACT that there is a HUGE resistance in the 200$ range for ETH. And A BIGGER ONE in the 235$. Both two used to be supports, now are big resistances for bulls. This means that whenever ETH gets there, the most possible thing that will happen is that it will dump. So you can be pretty sure that selling in the 200$ means profit.

Now, imagine you've sold at 200$, and you want to buy the same amount and keep the profit right? Now, ETH is tricky here, because there is not a base-line. Bears are pushing and crashing down the market of ETH making it totally difficult to predict where it will stop. But you can be pretty sure bears will not let you go above 200$.

Make a guess. You can be fearly confident that prices of ETH will not dump in to the sub-100$. At least, there is not a single TA that i've seen that says that. But...on the contrary, i've seen TA for BTC going to 2,5K , or even lower.

Long term holding is not profitable anymore. Sharks, whales, aggressive traders and marginal traders are making money in the moving averages of the scale. almost everyweek they garantee themselves 10% profit if they are on the spot. 5% is a bad weekly result for them. So take a guess who is winning with this.

 

Personally, I do not think it's a joke but it's true the Altcoin have become very volatile especially with the dominance of the BTC

I think a lot of people choose to hold on for a long time because they expect that the bullrun that happened in 2017 will be able to happen again, but when it will happen again we don't know it and it is true that you say that this is a world of cryptocurrency and who can survive in any condition is the winner, we don't need to focus on holding in the long run, when we have made a profit then sell it and don't be too greedy.

I've seen a lot of posts on this forum about what hold doesn't bring anything useful. And I agree with that. Times change and strategies change too. You always need to adjust to the current situation and then you will always have a profit.

We cannot blame those who choose to hold. That's each decision. If there is an opportunity to go down, the opportunity that will occur also to go up. Especially for long-term investment, I salute those who are mentally strong to continue to hold in the midst of this saturated market. And when the bull run comes, it will definitely get a pleasant spring. Not a stupid decision for those who choose to hold. Provided that calculations have been made before making a decision.

Im only choose to hold are those trusted coins like bitccoin and etherium or the top 10 in CMC, But in comes of altcoins maybe one of them Ill trade it early.
And its looks like have some altcoins have not have value at all if we take to a years holding it. And Ill agree with you I heard always said holding but what reminds me on the time Ill have a coins holding for so long until no price in return.

   
   What ever you chose to hold is your own thing. Each of us have a choice, it's not matter do others agree or not with your choices.
We shouldn't mock each other here, we should be supportive, or try to be.
   I don't think that long-term investments are joke! It's a good strategy, safer then some other strategies. I'm a crypto-currency holder
and I'm proud to say that.

Long term hold is the true way to profit from the cryptocurrency markets. The holders are the teal winners if they hold good cryptotocurrency,  else it could be a potential waste of time and resources.  If you're interested in making a quick buck,  don't hold, trade and regret in 5 to 10 years down the line.

After lost with many altcoin assets I will never long term investment again with new altcoin received from bounty campaign and ICO project, not good planning with long term investment because many altcoin look not serious for the future with their coin, you can check with coinmarket cap history how higher price of altcoin and now look dump with lower price.

Maybe or maybe not. It depends on what you are hodling. If you are hodling a shitcoin. Even if you hodl it for the rest of your life, you will not gonna make profit on it since the devs of that project is enjoying the investors money in some island with cool beach. Bitcoin is the only coin that worthy to hodl and the rest needs some trading way to earn profit just like the OP said. Sell when price peak and buy when price is dump.

Holding varies differently based on the perspective of the individual. Because not everyone is on the same screen as you, and as well not everyone is on the same interest as you. They may look at in the chart knowing that those might be an opportunity to buy or sell but that doesn't it picks their interest. Because they maybe have different approach on handling their strategies or plans.

In crypto world there is always a lesson to learn from, holding is very good but selling at peak and buying back at bottom is better either ways they have advantages and disadvantages, some times you won't know if a coin have hits its bottom too

This depends on your strategy, whether you're daily or weekly trading a few assets or simply accumulating them when they get cheap, and the latter can be a very effective strategy, but you do make a good point that when profits arrive don't get too greedy and be sensible with your liquidations and besides you don't have to sell all of an asset at once

Yes, I agree with you that holding a coin for too long is greed. because we continue to expect the price of coins to rise even higher. being greedy will keep us from getting anything. it's better to sell when the coin has increased 30% or 40%. then take profit and wait for coins to dump and buy again. I think this method is more beneficial than holding it for a long time. holding it for a long time also does not guarantee we will get a big profit.

but the thought of an investor who likes long-term investment is not a problem. because indeed they already have their plans and predictions. despite the decline but they certainly, have the perseverance to wait for the market to return. different from a short-term investment player or a daily trader, because all of them have different thoughts.

there is nothing wrong with long-term investors, they have personally analyzed and determined steps to do it. even though the price is down, I don't think it's a pressure, because they have calculated the risk. and I think the advantage is that they can do other activities besides the crypto market

To be honest, you just sound exactly like someone who came along later and bought on the near top. I've seen how this altcoin crash has played out before and it's pretty arrogant to claim that you have a clue about tops or bottoms after you clearly have bought the top. For all we know markets could do instant 2x from here or be dumped because of news. It's mostly luck, but you can do a lot better by educating yourself.

Long term hodl sometimes due to forced conditions. Actually wanted to sell at the top but, did not get a place to sell it. Many people hold tokens with all their might but sell them at cheap prices. It all depends on mentally. Sometimes greed affects everything, always wanting to get more and hold tokens until the price goes back down. Holding tokens for now is very detrimental. Scalping is better though with little profit but is often done.

Because everyone has their own way and understands that risk. You cannot justify your way one-sidedly because of the market condition that has been going down which gives disadvantages to those who are longterm.
Personally I still hold bitcoin even though the price isn't going up. But I believe this gives me a profit for at least a year or two, and I understand the risks as well because I buy bitcoin with unused money.
So let me people do it their own way, and you also won't look smart if you post something like this.

The failures anticipation the next market trend cause by greed mostly trapped investors and holders. They do have the opportunities but since they
are thinking that the market can go up more instead of selling it with decent profits they will hold more instead. Ending everything to sell with huge
losses and regrets. You need to work with your analysis as this volatile market can give you profits or sucked your money out.

Easy to say but impossible to know and do. A lot of people are saying this. But I know for sure that they cannot also tell which price is the highest and which price is the lowest. If Bitcoin will suddenly rise to $10,000 tomorrow, are you going to sell or continue to HODL? On the other hand, if Bitcoin will fall down to $5,000 later today, are you going to buy back or continue to HODL? I myself cannot answer this because I do not have the eyes to see what exactly will happen next.

In my opinion there's nothing wrong holding a coin for long term, In the end you can make profit of it, but make sure it is not a shit coin you hold. Every people has own strategy to make money.

The only coin you can buy when its lower is bitcoin, since its the first coin ever it will surely regain its value but the safest option is still long term hold, holding for long term is on dangerous if the coins you keep are not good

I will always prefer long term hold, its more safer and more profitable too, i made a mistake in the past when finding bottom of a coin and i lose, the fact is you can't see the future so you won't know when thr bottom is been reached or not

your opinion is correct, but not everyone can do that.
many beginners often panic when selling and the market is still going up.
HODL is used for those who don't understand charts, and it's safer because bullrun is in sight.
so we don't need to sell at the top and buy at the bottom, as long as we know the movement of the chart on a large Time Frame.

There are some of hodler not by choice. They have to hodl cause the losses were too big to bear, so they're waiting for a miracle to come while keep holding their investment.
Regarding selling at peak, no one knows if it's peak yet or not. They are waiting for the price to reach the very peak only to get a dumped prices. All in all, it's people's choice whether to be a die hard hodler or following the market flows.

Long term HODL may not gives most profits but you can't predict the exact peak price to sell and bottom most price to buy back so you might do your own assumptions and this is nothing but trading cryptos.It may leads to profits and losses due to unpredictability on prices so that is why long term suggested as smart option where we only need to buy and wait for the prices to spike up.

Everything is fine how we know that our holding reached top and how can we decide the rock bottom My max holding is ethereum it reached 300+$ in previous pump I was expecting atleast 500$ to sell now it is 150$ how can we decide the top . Can I preditct 140 is the bottom still it can go further . So nothing can be predicted in crypto space . Hodl good coin with real working project

Long term hold is the best, i mean take a lot at all the top coins on CMC and find out their ico price, if you have bought 100$ worth of eos, tron, stellar, xrp back then do you know how much it will be now? the problem here is people are too impatience

Yes because they do not have the analysis or a strong reason to sell at the top. They are too dependent on what people are talking about, when many people say HODL then they will also do HODL.
That is what happens, there are still many people who do not have self-belief but only based on people's speculation.

Long term holding still work but only for a very few coins and if one is lucky to hold any of them, you will surely smile. I have of a coin that has done x72 this year even with the current market situation and those holding the coin since the beginning of this year are now in real money.

Everyone have a different kind of perspective and I respect yours as well but no one can predict the peak and the bottom right? Thats why most investors choose to be hodler for a long time until it bring mass adoption in every country. And not everyone have the time to learn about the market and technical analysis.

How is holding for a long term a joke? HODL is for serious people who know what they are doing, its not for those who wants to get rich quick because they can't take their eye off the coins they buy everyday, a friend of mine bought 800$ worth of Zclassic back in 2017 and he sold them for 170$ per one in 2018, now he is a millionaire, although he is lucky to enter the space before bullrun takes off and he doesn't hodl for too long but do not expect things to be easy

I got Idea what you mean on this topic. I experienced that last time I hold my reward from bounty because I have trust to their project and their project has a lot of use cases and good plan for the future of their platform and I saw the value of the token still going to lowest all time. I never expect this moment because I had trust, Thank you for this topic. I realized all things now.

I think it is really a matter of coin where to invest, if you are going to invest in top ranked coins you could either go for HODL or go for buy low and sell high. For coin that is not that popular or simply don't have much volume it is better to sell it right away. In the case of Bitcoin, most of the time it will take such a long time for it to pump so the buy low and sell high technique could b more likely classify as HODL.

only on major coins this case could work. For altcoin that have no potency it will die in near future. That your lucky if gain 72x times for coins, its very rare to find it. If we want to hold our portofolio for long time , maybe bitcoin be our first choice, and for alternative we could pick eth , ripple and also binance coin.  Hopefully in near time will occur good projects that will give us gain and make our trust to this market recovered.

Yes, hopefully this will be communicated to new people as soon as possible. Many people believe in the enticements of scammers and spend all their money to buy shitcoins and hold in the long run. I myself have encountered similar cases and lost over $ 20k for bullshit whitepaper and roadmap. Besides, for the crypto market, nothing is real. All is manipulation and money laundering, long-term hold only dead road.

Any way you want to hold is fine, either long term or short term hold all you have to be careful about is useless coins and tokens that have no real use case, they keep coming in to deceive new investors and rob them of their funds but who are to be blame? the investors, they do half research on projects

Long term hodl is not a joke but if you bought in the bull run as a higher price then yes , the pressure you're having could last 2-3 years and I can understand that from that view , holding looks like a joke but if you bought in the bear market you just need to have patience and the results will come. I like how anytime the markets goes bloody, everyone starts to panic and question themselves if they did the right decision investing into cryptocurrencies so just have a break , forget about coins and come back in 2021.

If you choose the right coins and make long-term investments, you can make very serious profits.4-5 years ago, investors who invested long-term in coins such as Bitcoin and ethereum are examples of this situation and they made great profits.

In addition, the strategy of selling that coin when the price of a coin reaches its peak and then buying it again when the price falls, does not always work. Because contrary to your opinion, coin price may continue to increase at the point where you expect the price to fall. In the crypto world where sudden and rapid changes can occur, it is very difficult to know the exact peak point of the coin.

I think if we hold long term in bitcoin and come back in 2021,it still allows us to get high profits.
Because in 2021 bitcoin will hardfork and allow prices to the moon,but for other altcoins it's not recommended to hold long term.I only believe in bitcoin!

I believe long term hold will only work when one can accumulate at deeps and average the buying price.
Also in this cryptoworld, no long term stability is available as technology is changing day by day and to adapt it, many times token swap happens. If we dont keep ourselves then there is a risk of getting all your holding obsolete.

I'm personally HODL for long term, I know my assets always lost in bearish market, but I also buy some crypto in that situation because I didn't put all money on the cryptcocurrency and I also have a jobs, if dump, IMO this is time to buy, and if PUMP, this is time to sell a few crypto (not all). I believe cryptocurrency still in the begining, and it will be growing like an Internet before, when I was junior school, I never think Internet will be important like now, as for cryptocurrency, I believe it will changes the world, with cryptocurrency, transaction will be transparent, fast, safe, cheap, and easy to use without complicated. Not only in transaction, because blockchain technology can also implemented in other aspect, let's see who innovative people in the near future to create new concept based blockchain technology..

it's about trust, do you not see the history of the price? the lowest price then goes to the highest price and it keeps repeating it. the current situation indeed tends to decrease, and that's normal,. next year there is a big event of course prices will rise again don't worry. I still believe that the next few years are still good to hold.

This is very common and only the sheep will lose money on shitcoin. One thing that is very dangerous for new entrants is that they are quite greedy and have no knowledge of crypto. Those bad things have led them to speculate on shitcoins and expect something far from a fraudulent CEO.
I write these words just hoping that new people don't get too greedy for this manipulative and fraudulent market. Be wise and make money with what you know.

actually, they don't know whether prices will go down or up. but, sometimes they just think that the price will go down, because they still hold it.
if you predict something, then you will not make a sale, or purchase if it is still uncertain. however, people sometimes have withholding their assets that they have accumulated for a long time, so selling them just because they think the price will dump seems silly. in general, I hold bitcoin and altcoin, and I'm sure the price will go up and down in the future. it's easy to predict, but we can't determine when that time will occur.

I think every type of financial investment has a drawback. But hodling for a long time has huge drawback. Nobody can predict future movements just by looking at the past movements. Same goes for trading but it is even more risky of one doesn't have any experience in this field.

Exactly, people who hodl put all their trust alongside with the risk of investing. Even if it takes a few months or years, as long as we have our trust, our expectations will never fail to come.

And back to the main point, many investors tend to hodl for long term to receive maximum profit. There are types of investors and one of them is long term hodler. It is not foolish action, it is also a wise decision where they are free to choose how long they will hodl their investment.

When I hold I still needs to be updated on the price and news as we don't know what can really happen in long hold. We need to make sure to be updated that the project is still working and have update to keep in this market condition if not then better stop loss. I learned this lesson as many of my hold alt became nothing in value now and may not recover at all.

Some hodl for a reason like when you have bought the peak and is very late to sell them, some opt not to cut losses and have patience to hodl. Some people might even hold to the idea that the next bull market will be massive. Each has their own reason why they are hodling crypto.

Long term HODL is not a joke. In fact, if you look at the history of the prices of the top coins, you will realize that long term HODL is the easiest and even most profitable way to grow your cryptocurrency if you are not an expert trader. Even traders will testify that trading is hard and that it is really a good option to just choose HODL instead of actively trading. HODL is a joke if you are HODLing shitcoins but if you are HODLing Bitcoin or ETH, you are doing good.

not everyone can think like that. because I believe most new traders are using luck, others are following trading signals. maybe you are easy to say that. but doing peak selling and buying below is a big analysis. what about people who buy in 2017, then close their account and look back in 2018. do they have to sell it? while prices are already low. I still believe a big pump will come soon. just need extra patience to wait for him. if impatient. then trade, don't sell then leave.

Long term holding is the best option for most people I agree,,, you can save yourself a lot of time and emotions, and you do not risk losing more money in trading, but it is still not a guarantee of profit, simply a guarantee you will always have the coins,,, whether they are worth anything or not!

It is a lot about luck:)

If nobody wants to Hold, I think this market will be very bad. Not all holders are losers, it's just about choice, patience and luck. My friend is an example,he bought BNB for $ 15 in mid-2018, then BNB dropped to $ 5, he decided to bid $ 30 and didn't use the account for nearly a year and as a result, he had x2 accounts.

although some say it is a joke but actually trading or investing long-term is indeed the best thing and a very smart choice to be able to get a lot of profit and can avoid the losses that can befall you when you do not implement it, it is better to control patience to be able to get a lot of profit in a beautiful time.

bitcoin is a future investment, can be used throughout the world, the transaction is very safe. so how could they not believe in bitcoin? fluctuation is the attraction of bitcoin to get many advantages in it. the value of bitcoin will continue to grow because of its very limited supply.

I think everyone knows buying at the bottom and selling at peak price is the best and wise thing to do as an investor. But there's an intances why many investors are holding for long period. Like in the past, the early investors hold their btc for long time as well before they gain huge profit after the price skyrocket. Only those who trust and believe in this crypto will hold even it seems there's no another bull run coming.

Im a long term hodler because I dont have to worry about the current price and there's no need to monitor the market often. Well we have different strategy but what important is we are earning through it regardless if you're short or long term hodler.

That is the thing that they cannot believe in crypto, they just think that it is a bubble that anytime it can disappear. Most of them have a bad experience that's why they have a low level of trust. They can't accept the fact that crypto will continue to grow and increase their prices over time.

It is possible to earn more in the short term, but not everyone is so knowledgeable about this market. It is an easier way to keep it for a long time, so we hold to escape from the difficulty. Holding is like ignoring most of the opportunities between investment and withdrawal. Or this can be considered as an obstacle for the less experienced.

So I presume you are pertaining to daytrading. Of course everyone wants it however not everyone can do it because of certain reasons. Maybe he was discouraged by the fact that he needs strong technical skills while dealing this? Maybe he was scared putting more money at risk? Maybe he is busy on the outside world (I belong here)? And many more. That is why they (we) tend to stick on long term hodling. Oh by the way, excuse me, we're not fools. It's just so happened that we find hodling as the best thing suitable for us. We're aware that daytrading is more profitable but we can't simply walk away from our responsibilities for it. There are things in life greater than crypto. If you are full time on it then good for you but I hope you could  understand others for not doing so :).

Honestly not all coins are going to bring you huge profits but i have seen how rich coins like dash, neo and eos makes many early adopters, i think holding is the best its just that it takes years to see huge gains but its worth the wait, few good new coins are still been released so do start catching them while they are still very cheap now

People losing their money because they are speculating and not doing technical analysis. They are just hoping that the value will go up in the future. I'm a day trader and my decisions are based on the price actions and it help me to create effeftive strategy and trading setups.

That's why it becomes their common mistake and the common thing they do is that they just follow the trend. Lacking analyzation, and the only thing they know is to buy low sell high which also becomes the root of panic selling if their investment will dump its price.

That's not a joke, people has different mindset and strategy don't laugh. Maybe we see it as wasting time and money strategy but I believe people with good calculation and disciplines will win the fight. Try to ask them clearly their strategy, how to calculate and where's the stop loss and take profit area, maybe you'll know something that will change your mindset.

the long-term hodl method if buying it when the price is high (ATH) is indeed a joke (you are really stupid). the long-term hodl method is most suitable is when buy at a low price and later it will get amazing results when the price goes up. that is what is meant by the long term (in my opinion).

A bit earlier I was a trader (a speculator) I did not used to hold assets for long time. It was cool but too risky and I was tired of trading and moreover I did not sleep well I was too nervous until I have become an investor. To be an investor is much more pleasant than a trader. Just I need is to make an excellent research, diversify my money and wait, sometimes looking at quotas. I do not excruciate myself by day trading anymore. I noticed that investors are viable than traders because they hazard much less as well as they spend much less time in suspense.
Nothing discourages a person to be either an investor or a trader, every person makes an own choice oneself

This is true, we cannot stop others from long term holding since everyone has their own way to achieve profit in trading coins. It is not a joke indeed, market prices cannot be predicted that some intended to hold rather than selling at a losing price. Like in me what I did I hold long term bitcoin which I prefer to have better gains.

Probably you have the point but what it talks here is why do people still goes to long term holding and I will answer it simply and very clear. People are deciding to take a long time hodling because they saw that the current market are not good yet and that's why they are just holding and waiting until some good time may come thay they may sell their belonging coins in order to earn profit. Many people do like what you are doing that they are selling their coins when some good changes happen in the market or their holdings are pump up and they buy again coins if the price dumps. That is the creativity of crypto, you need to be smart in order to earn.

Long term hold is not a joke because if you sell your coin when the price is down, you cannot make a profit, but you will lose your money. That is why people suggest you hold for the short term or long term so you can sell your coin if the price increase. But that will only work for the potential coin that can increase in the future because not all coins can improve in the long term. The bull run is not here yet, but you can hope and wait for the bull run to come in the next month.

Indeed, investing does not have to hold for the long term but long term hold is an option if it does not have the ability to trade or analyze market movements. One factor people still hold when prices reach the highest price is greed and still hopes prices will continue to rise and this is a psychological factor that has been compared to others. Indeed, we should set a target price so that we can increase the value of our portfolio

they refuse the reality because they cant simply accept defeat which is a good trait to show for a real long term hodler . once you gave up and sell you will loose and that only shows that you are weak and dont belong on the hodling world of crypto   .

long term hodler are not fool but they are wise  and how can you say sell at the peak if you will not struggle hodling first  ? reaching the peak price is not easy and that takes forever to occur  . when bull run arives , i dont think that no one will recognize it unless they are really greedy and waiting for more 

In the past, long-term investment could indeed be very profitable because in the past all coins were still cheap, then there were still many people who traded in the market, so the market could be pumped. but for now the situation is a little different, prices soared but then fell, but at this time the price is still fairly high. so now people rarely trade in the market, so even coin hodlers don't mean anything either. those who just keep quiet and wait will not affect the market and are practically bullshit. if you want the market to continue to grow, you have to keep trading, even if you have assets for long-term investment.

Long term holding is actually good in bitcoin you gain more profit in it. Holding for short term also not bad... As of now in market we can see pumps and dumps but in upcoming days it will really be better... Make huge profit out of it. Be smart enough when it increases.

Long term hodl is the major strategy of the investors in cryptocurrency because if you invest on right cryptocurrencies then they will give a lot of profit in the future. It is not a joke because long term holding is also applicable and suggested in other market like stock market where you buy blue chip stocks and hold them for long term, if you invest right then you will profit.

Ya, I think that is a natural thing when the price of bitcoin is still low under $1000 many people do not believe and doubt it, but after booming and bitcoin reached very high prices, many people were interested and wondered what bitcoin is, then many people adopted it too. even including me who used to not believe, but after quite a few years in the crypto world, I understand and believe that this is a cycle, because I am sure in the end, the price will rise higher.

Let us also face the reality that you dont know what to do when the price pump is there.
$20k was a good example.
Do you know what happened that day?
There are full of hype thread which think the $50k is happening.
Can you really tell yourself to sell now? You are saying that now because you are looking at history.
But once you are at that moment, you cannot just sell because you dont even know what will happen tomorrow or the next day.

Somehow you will experience it too later on.

Right, the point is that we have to know what to hold in the long run, not just coins or tokens, but must really have a sale value wherever and whenever, because changing market conditions really require everyone to use good analysis before holding a coin or token.

If there are still many crypto communities holding Bitcoin /another crypto this proves there is still confidence in Bitcoin in the future. Moreover, many hope that by coming Halving the price will rise dramatically like 2017. I personally already don't want to choose holding style in trading. for now, being the short term is better because as we know the bear market is the most annoying thing.

try to understand first the movement of crypto, I bought a bitcoin price of $ 8400 and now falls $ 7100 I still remain calm because I know that bitcoin and other crypto are new technologies will be developed in the future.
see the history of bitcoin friend once every 3 years the price goes up to 10x more so it remains HOLD !!!

Long term hold is profitable especially for well-established coins like Bitcoin and other top coins. If we'll look at the history of a certain coin like Bitcoin, we could see how it has gone far through time. We have witnessed how it boomed in years so people still trust the strategy of holding.

If what is meant by the OP I believe only in Bitcoin and ethereum, besides that I doubt. I think the words of the OP are focused on new projects, which want to develop, advance, and conquer the market. but I think altcoin is now sufficient and long-term hold only on bitcoin (the source or center of everything). I agree to sell it if I feel I have made a profit, only greedy people expect at the time of the bull trend and wait until the magic comes (LOL).

Be a smart investor and invest in the promising projects, taking a losing small trades are stressful in the bear market. Long term HODLers usually have patience and a good amount of money for investing in the top altcoins. Making an investment decision with the additional skills like money management, risk/reward ratio should be combined with the legit project research.

Well.. it is a good strategy to sell your coins at their peak and then buy them back when the prices are low. But the problem with cryptocurrencies is that we never know which levels are peaks and which ones are low. But I agree that it is not viable to hold any of the altcoins for the long term. Unlike the case with Bitcoin, there is no guarantee that these coins will survive for the next 5 to 10 years.

Ofcourse you will have profit on that explanation,

But the reality today is that the market is not the same as the years 2013, 2015 and 2016. Unlike those days crypto was not really known to many people around the world. The situation is different now that many have gained interest in the crypto currency and are making it a money making machine because of their successful creation of fud, and manipulation of prices.

Even you already suffer from big losses because of the drop price it is good that you remain calm and still holding your bitcoin. The movement of cryptocurrency in the market is very unpredictable and even you always monitor still in just a few seconds you can lose or earn big amount of money. I hope you are right about every 3 years the price of bitcoin will go up so we just need to wait until 2020 and watch if bitcoin will gonna go up to 10x. Long term holding is not a joke because once the price goes up to the moon you will totally celebrate and maybe you will say to yourself that you really make a good decision in your life.

The situation at this moment is indeed frustrating but do you think selling and winning at this point would aid the problem? We have no choice but to hold as investors and bounty hunters. Some coins won't be sold at this time because their prices are close to zero so GAS money would be bigger resulting to no profit at all but just a waste of time. Be patient for a little longer because that's the only thing we can do.

Because it is the only appropriate strategy to these trends actually. Price may dump anytime, and I'll consider buying more from that when I got more from my savings. It will be a heck of a wall for the portfolio I built already. I had already thought of selling at so-called "peak", but I don't think that all these prices were already "peak" for me from the time I first bought crypto. It could be a greedy hodling, but it isn't really in reality.

The strategy that you should do is depend on what you can do and the strategy that fit in your emotions and skills. You can hold do hold but first you should know the risks. I am a trend follower so I will only hold a coin if the trend is bull and not bear.

That's why we need to set our own peak and down, but sometimes we prefer to change it anytime since the market is too volatile to predict. I remember one holiday before that I set a goal to sell it since the price is somehow lowering until  all that I do is just to hold it since I keep changing my mind. Next time I'll try to do what I really plan and see if I will be able to do it.

I think buy at dip, sell at peak, in reality not all people can do it. And what i think is hold or trading regularly, we must respect and if they lose it is not bother us. Although i think hold altcoins for very long time not really good, but if we talk about bitcoin, there is a chance people who only hold can get high profit as long they are be patient.

What did you do when you bought at the top of $ 3,000 and now it's only $ 3 :D

Long term hodl sometimes is not intended as an intention, but because it is trapped in a forced condition. For bitcoin I agree, there is only less interesting experience about altcoin before.

Your post is based on one angle, you are actually looking at it from an angle where the trader buys at the pick, not from angle where the trader but at the bottom and hodls in wait for a spike in price. Long term trade/hodl in this case has to do with patience and it pays a lot when you are right on the choice of coins you choose hold. I hope you can correct your thought about long term hodl as been a joke

Long term hodl is not a sense thing again consider about when you can make a few bucks at the same time and then you waste all of your chance for that to bet on the long term hodl but when there was a bearish trend like what already happened with bitcoin yesterday and then you are getting more and more lost. That means long term investment is not a good choice again. Try to make the decision based on the market and trend.

This method is suitable only for experienced traders who know when to sell at the peak and buy at the bottom, unfortunately most people do not know where the peak or bottom is, because of this they adhere to the BUY&HOLD strategy.

Exactly! crypto trading is a bit new for most of us here which is why some have chosen to hold the coin and wait for their target price. There is no problem in long-term holding as long as the coin has potential because the market will eventually evolve in the next coming years and a lot of things will happen during the process, its either positive or negative.

i cant control myself reading this. i was laughing out loud for Godsake. honestly, you have your point but you shoud also consider that some of us here are not short traders that monitor the markets everyday. also you know that it is not save to keep tokens on exchange due Hackers. My opinion is whatever works for anybody is okay for him. i have watch tokens went for 100 usd worth to zeros and penny and i have also watch some coins moved from zero to values. it depends.

Long term hodl is ok but you don't understand the concept OP. Long term hodl after you bought at highs is always a bad choice but long term hodl in a bear market is good. If a currency lost 80% of its ath value there's small chance that it will go lowe.

Even if it does it's going to be another 10% or so but there's high chance of a bounce to 40% of ATH or even going back to retest ATH.

You buy and hodl a shitcoin = you lose every time even in a bear market.

Sure, we need to be smart and wise. Also we shoud have a cold had - and that is the key, for mi opinion. But if you are a long term investor with distance for a few years - better is hold and dont worry. We will see BTC 30K. Maybe year needed, maybe two, Maybe by the end of this year or tomorrow.

Shows how dumb you are. Sell at the peak? Do you really know what the "peak" price might be? What if you sold thinking that the price has "peaked" but then you see that the price is still increasing. You have lost your opportunity to make some good profit. What if the price no longer dumps or goes lower that your assumed "peak" price? You will never get the chance to buy back at lower price.
Holding for long term is a joke? Compare the last 6/7 years price (this is long term) and then see it for yourself.

Holding is not actually a joke for everyone especially at a time like this, we all know that the nature of cryptocurrency is its volatility, meaning the value or prices are changing time by time, so it is hard to predict when cryptocurrency are going to pump or dump, long term holding is somehow good but it takes time, it actually a token that is not good in value as of now but in the future let us say that it is gonna pump. As a trader, we are buying a token in a low price and holding it until the price is risen up, so if it is not rising as of now we are holding it until that happens.

It is not even logical  to write such meaningless prediction here, the chance of hitting the $30k price per Bitcoin is almost impossible. The long term investing is something we use the time factor in order to wait for the bull market but the market demand fell even more due to the FUD.

Its like people don't understand that some coins are very good for long term hold, for example coins that solves problems in crypto space and still become scarce over time so tell me how will these coins not have value over time? its all about their real use cases

I think the long-term hold is for people who believe bitcoin will rise in the future, but I prefer to hold it back if the price is still down and sell it if it has gone up, that is what I have applied today to buy and let it rise.

everyone has a different way of investing in bitcoin. there are those who like to invest in bitcoin with short-term investments and there are those who like to invest in the long term. long-term or short-term investments that are important we can benefit from these investments. most people who believe in bitcoin and are prepared to risk losing will make a long-term investment. and for people who have limited capital I think would prefer to make short-term investments. I am also a person who invests in the short term.

Well.. we are also talking about the altcoins. With Bitcoin, there is no doubt that it is suitable for long-term investment. But the same can't be said about many of the altcoins. We have seen a large number of altcoins getting removed from the market, either due to low trade volumes or due to lack of interest. Under such circumstances, long-term hold may not be preferable for all the altcoins. There is no guarantee that they will survive in the long-term. The competition is also growing, with dozens of new coins and tokens getting listed every day.

Let's assume you bought at $6,000, it goes to $11,000 and you sell. But from $11,000 it keeps going up and up and there is a lot of uncertainty what buying low actually means now. a lot of people just remove the complication of continuously following the market and just hold because they have the belief that Bitcoin is going to be worth a lot in the long term and they find little value in day trading. there is nothing wrong in either strategy, it's just preference.

I think with the existence of a real product on altcoin that is needed by many people and serious handling, I think that altcoin will survive in the current situation. unfortunately many altcoins are not like that, so their prices continue to decline and there is no innovation from the team, and eventually abandoned by investors

sometimes many people feel dissatisfied, even though prices are already in a high position but they don't immediately sell and fall asleep with the word hold. so they get a big loss. trust the crypto market right now is unpredictable, so I thought maybe it shouldn't take too long to hold or get a loss

How do you know if a coin has hits it bottom? have you seen where by you buy a coin at the so called bottom and it start falling further? you don't know what you are saying, it might works for you but its impossible every time because i tried this in the past and it doesn't favour me at all

Many people who choose to hold in the long run may be because when they see the current market conditions and the price of the coins they hold are still far from what is expected or arguably the price of the coins they have actually decreases and makes them choose to hold it in the long run and not sell it. It is true that when we have benefited from the coins we buy it is better to sell them and not too long to hold them but sometimes the market situation does not match what we expect.

Long-term holds are good with really good cryptocurrencies.  And you need to have enough knowledge and money to continue to buy more Crypto to hold to have an average price and ensure not to lose too much when held long.  Many people have a lot of money when misjudging the market and holding cryptocurrencies at a bad time to buy either they don't have enough money to average the price or they sold it too early to cut losses.  I'm talking about cryptocurrencies good enough to hold.  As for shit cryptos, if you keep it for how long it can not increase its value.

Of course lose,  ;D that is why i said hold altcoin for very long time is not really good. I have bought coin with 0.0001BTC and sell it into 1 satoshi. Maybe a lot of people have this experience too when 10k coin in market and then people stake it for longer time. And then the coin dumped into 1 satoshi. Lose but that is risk of trading, until now i still have experience that holding token from bounty very long will make it not have value anymore.

depending on which coins you call shitty. Now there are a lot of potential coins that can look very bad, but if you start to study the project more deeply, you will understand that such a coin can bring you 1000 percent profit

The idea of a long term hold is not the right option for me as a bounty hunter for now. The reason is because i have discovered in the recent times that most of the coins i have been holding for long ended up being dumped in their prices in the market. I prefer to sell at high price initially as well and then buy back when the price is low in the market. It is good to take wise decisions in terms of holding of crypto coins this season. Whoever fails to take advantage of selling early at a good price may regret it later. So,  I won't suggest a long term hold for this particular season that the market has seriously gone down and no sooner recovery of it in view.

The last two years, were extremely hard for crypto holders, but I am staying optimistic and believe that bright times are ahead of us. Not everyone can trade, so the only choice is to buy cryptos and wait for another shot.

If we buy crypto coins at the right time, it will definitely be profitable if the crypto market improves in the future, only the problem now is the high risk we must bear when buying crypto coins, that's what makes many people not dare to take steps to buy at this time.

Buying at the right time gives added profit, because when there is rise in the market as we've bought at the right time which means at the lowest price of the specific coin. Long term holding is always profiting, we may think this to be a joke for some reason. Even me missed the opportunity during the previous bull trend of the market, but I learned. Same time my friend who missed similar opportunities in the past made the right decision to sell at the peak as he was holding for years. Long term profiting is assured and for the same we need to be careful in observing the changes happening in the market.

"Invest in crypto only what you can afford to lose". I think it should take a bit like a joke, that we should invest a little for fun and forget about it. You will see in the future...

we are still waiting for confirmation about the bull market for altcoin, for the bull market Bitcoin has passed,
bitcoin has risen again at $ 12000 and that's good, if Bitcoin dominance decreases it will be good for altcoin

Actually, I dont agree with your opinion. I suppose it all has its price if we choose the right time to hold. If we can go back to the beginning of 2019, do we want to buy Bitcoin or ETH to hold for 7 months to sell at x5?
Meanwhile, speculators have suffered a lot when they think that Bitcoin cannot grow forever and they constantly open Short position and have suffered a lot of losses. Actually holding is also good but we need to choose a good time to hold, don't try to gouge.

That’s correct long term holding is the best way to trade if you are new so we should trade as long ss much possible. I know the market remains to change the price but there is no need to lose hope you people should even take advantage as only patience is needed to become a successful trader. Don’t sell nowadays it would go panic and its lost.

One of the golden rules of crypto is to not buy when the price is high. Also do not buy shitcoins hoping they will moon after some months. If you follow those tips judiciously, you will realize that long term hodl is still very much worth it

therefore before you make an investment it's good to know the coins invested and what the target price is to sell them. You can not invest with only confidence, especially in altcoin. certainly every investment made needs to be carried out research, the aim is to find the best possible investment

Cryptocurrency market is increasingly losing the trust of people. I dare not face the reality of the current situation of the market. It was terrible.

People still talk about long-term hodl when the reality is not as expected. I still try to look at the reality of the current cryptocurrency situation but I am very disappointed.  :(

Long term hold is Worth it only when you are lucky enough to hold coins which will do well in the long run. Also, most times doing proper research when deciding on which coins to hold is very important in this case, even though in some cases it won't be profitable. Sometimes you buy coins by team with great vision, then along the line things fall apart and you regret investing.

In short not all project are worth holding long term this i have come to realize after all, seriously, 99% of alt coins don't really worth the trouble at all, the best thing to do with them is sell when their price is high and leave, such project only have one opportunity to rise in price and if you didn't take advantage of it, then it will be very hard for such opportunity to come again.

Long-term hodl. I think it's not a funny story but a fact. Cryptocurrency market is not as expected but it is still occupying a position in the current economic market. maybe it will grow surprisingly again and much longer.

For the time being what you say can I understand and strongly agree with the opinions you give.
altcoin is almost a lot that can not last long after ico, the material is not a little after ico finished prices far below ico and some are even worthless anymore. this fact makes concerned about long-term investment, and always people will immediately scramble to sell when it has entered the market which ultimately makes no longer valuable. but not that there is no good altcoin but there are still those who still survive because their team really worked hard to be able to develop.

It is a joke for newcomers that bought cryptocurrencies for the first time in 2017, in the worst time. But overall, long-term holders are more profitable than traders.
People should repeat why they invested in cryptocurrencies because they see hype? Then probably it was a bad decision.  ::)

If you can earn from all coin than why don't you have interested to hold. Did you see "Thinkcoin" surge but I knew price could be down. So I sold half and hold half. I didn't take any risk. Sell can't be a single solution of cryptocurrency.

I adhere to a similar strategy almost always. I sell half and keep half. Perhaps this is the wrong position and the half that remains with me may no longer rise. In any case, this is my choice, and the long-term investment option is more convenient for me. Because for trading it takes a lot of free time to keep track of prices, but I don’t have it.

Your judgment is not entirely correct.Let's say I bought coins very cheap even at the presale.The company behind the coins is developing and I'm watching it closely.Why should I sell coins a little more expensive than I bought them?

You're right. While there is uncertainty in the market I believe that the hodl is perfect to wait out this time.

Yes it worth to hold if our altcoins we have is have more potential and trusted altcoins that would make a increase the price in a future. Proper was important on us if we want a plan to buy altcoins doing holding it for a future. Ans Ill experience on that also its cause of this a team that have promising words but in the end we are regret on why we trust them.

You are not far from the truth, but then everyone got their strategy and how best it profits them, moreover most people who choose long term is to maximize profit, once it is high they sell,take profit and buy back when you price falls. So I really do not think hodling is a bad idea

I think it is best to hodl your bitcoin and a few extra altcoins but not more than a handful. Bitcoin is still young and will mature. People are not known to be patient and they will sell and then lose their USD value of what the bitcoin could have been worth. You can tell that people cannot wait since HYIP and scam ICO are still getting support and bitcoin so they won't go away with greedy victims to claim.

Long term is really good for an investment but you really need to do it in a smart way because you will not gain any profit if you just put in a wallet and not selling it. Maybe you ca  try to sell it if the value goes up then buyback again if the price drop and that's a practical way of holding for a long term.

And always put in a hardware or software wallet with an encryprion because we cannot trust an exchange by just putting our money on it.

at the end of the day long term holders are the biggest winners
you can laugh but you can not change the facts
maybe right now it does not look like a good choice but its only for the short term
if you look few years forward and want to be independent in 10 years (and not in 1 week like typical trader)
you better hold

I rarely see any altcoin that can survive the initial price when entering the market, they are slowly sinking to their lowest point now, examples such as the Populous coin that I used to hold this coin for a long time and sell it for $ 74 and The price has fallen considerably and the price has now fallen at $ 0.50

Hodl is a working strategy, you just need to be able to use it. In addition, it is necessary to choose the right coins that can be held for a long time. Learn to apply different strategies in different situations and everything will be fine.

I don't think so. Long-term investments in the last 2 years have not brought much profit to investors and they tend to lose more when choosing this investment. Currently all coins in the top 10 are not achieving any new growth and the bear market is still making things worse. I don't encourage investors to choose long-term now and it is best to wait for the mayor to be more stable to make better decisions.

However, you can consider buy Bitcoin because the value of this coin is very cheap and certainly will not be reduced more this year so this is a small opportunity for investors.

If can get much profit with short term why have hold for long term, I think is not good ideas keep hold coin for long term although do not know with serious of owner to make their coin have higher price at the future, almost many coin have lower price at the future with not serious by owner have new update way for their coin and keep get profit and do not care again what happen with their coin later.

Long term investment has several advantages. by predicting that a coin has the potential later, investors choose long-term investments. and with long-term investments, we don't need to see market developments often, so we can do other activities

choosing a coin before holding it can be one of the best options and options. because now if we see many cases where they make investments and hold long-term coins but they suffer losses because the coins do not get the best price.

If anyone is creating a thread like yours in the year 2014 and the person who saves for the long term will surely laugh at that person.
Now you make this thread possible in the year 2021 or more people will receive results from their invest.
If you do not like saving in the long run at least do not make the assumption that the others do is wrong/fool.
Come on you should look from the other side, don't just justify what you think is right and blame what you think is wrong.

For some people this is not a joke and we cannot pushing people to do such as we did and i believe long term hold method still have their own fans and those people ignore short term purpose for the pump and dump for particular coins because they have their own faith that holding coins for long term will have benefit for them and i think these kind of people still exist until now but the difference is they never telling to us what coins they save

Long term hodl is no joke at all and its not something to laugh about because they are few people who once think like you, just imagine what the early crypto adopters went through until 2017 came? there must be few people telling them its a waste of time to hodl

If investment is not your main income, but simply a means of accumulating capital, then why not just buy every month or week and accumulate cryptocurrency in your reserves. Doing your favorite thing without being distracted by market fluctuations, realizing that it will not go anywhere and will cost 3-4 times more expensive in a couple of years, why should a person who is not very keen on investments engage in speculation, when you can simply accumulate and remove these in a couple of years funds for your needs. You do not speculate on bank deposits, but simply deposit and continue to do your own business.

I am going to share my experiences about long term hold here and i always suggestion to go long term hold because it will give good returns for our investments.
When i was brought my first bitcoin the price was around $356 and few was selled in 2017, and now it is around $7.5k i am in still profits but some one bought bitcoins in 2017 when bitcoin price in peak like $17k so my suggtion to them plase hold long term it will give good returns in future.

Long term hodl is good way to hold any good coins that has more stable in the market. Rather then picking that new tokens that not yet know will survive for the first year better to hodl a old one like ethereum,ripper or monaco for a long term hodl. For me i would pick any top 10 for my long term hodl only.

You're cause crypto investors need to smart with their investment so they could make the right profit at the right instead of makng debt.


Not selling at the peak price dont actually mean an investor is a fool if he bought at the  bottom price and still another capital set aside to buy in new dip. Besides, only investors that bought halfway are fools if they didn't sell some portion of their holding in other to accumulate during new dip.
Gosh, do you even imagine what will happen if every holder sold their when it ATH? You also need to be smart either.

Some altcoins will not disappoint if you hold for long term because they are well built and they have better support which is one of the reason bitcoin and eth make it this far, its left for you to find this gems among large pool of shitcoins

in making long-term investments we also have to look at the potential of coins for the future, if the coins do not have the potential in the future you should rethink. I do long-term hold of the project payoff and most of it is not profitable, so it's good to do the selection of coins for long-term investment

TOP 10 Coinmarketcap can indeed be said it is ideal for the long term, but I am still not sure about BCH and Monero,
there are many negative rumors about them so avoid it

Selling at the top of the price and buying it again at the lowest price is indeed very good and everyone can do it with a strategy like this, but sometimes there are still people who don't know when to actually enter at the lowest price and when to really sell at a high price . But for long-term hold  many have proven and made a profit, if that person really buys bitcoin when the price of bitcoin is only $ 300 and sells it when bitcoin hits the highest in 2017.

I think it is important to choose the right project and research it carefully before making an investment plan because the current market may cause you a lot of difficulties. Currently only trust the projects that are available in this market and always follow up with the fluctuations of that coin. However, not all projects are successful because if don't attract new investors, the coin will tend to decrease more.

Personally, I don't worry much about long term investment because it is the money I have earned from this market so my mentality is very comfortable when investing.

Of course, it should be always the priority of any trader or investor, to do research about the certain project to really make sure that they are putting their money into a project that will give them good returns. Investing is not just all about the money but also about time and effort that you need to put in to get a high winning percentage when it comes to trading and investing.

Agree, most of them altcoin with higher volumes are losing their value, but in the long term, in the long term, it might surely help us to hold the potential coins. It is not a good idea to hold the shit coins in the market because they will not give any more profits, so hold the potential coins in the market.

Not just 2014, any year before that. And even 2015 and 2017, before November 2017, anyone who made that thread and laughed at hold will not be laughing even today. Can you imagine, when I first came in around 2017 properly people were all saying sell at 4k because BTC had just broken ATH after over 2 years. We're not even 2 years from our last ATH. Imagine what happens when we break it again!

For me Longterm hodl is applicable only to bitcoin specially when you have bought in a good price. For altcoins it is best to sell when there is profit already. There are lots of disadavantages holding altcoins than btc like possible delisting.

Long term holding can increase more than 100% to 300% but depend with coins we choose, many coins can increase to higher price after holding about one or two years, maybe by serious team and have many bigger exchange market listed I think will have opportunity to keep and hold our assets for long term, its not joke by investing with long time.

Of course, it is very important to understand that the crypto market encourages those who can wait and sell or buy an asset on time. Some market participants simply do not want to wait and try to work in the market now. But of course, you can just be the holder of the cryptocurrency and sell when there is a peak price and buy when the bottom is up. But this requires understanding and patience, which unfortunately many do not have.

Your submission is relative and varies. Not all coins are hell bent on dying like we have many shitcoin today. Some very early coins with good use case were impressive until the current bear market sets in and w are still here riding the bear and hoping for a better days ahead. Cryptocurrency is unpredictable, and the need to avoid useless projects.

The decision to sell has something to do with the situation the holder is in, if he needs funds and the tokens on his portfolio is his only choice, then he has no choice but to sell, if he thinks that he wants to realize his profit from holding for a long time, then he has a choice to sell, not all holders have the same thinking and decision, as long as he is buying low and selling high, and he is profit, he is ok and he has no regret doing that.

In 2017 and 2018 long term hodl was introduced in my opinion this is really wrong decision if anybody is in the crypto market since 2017 then he/she must fully aware of crypto trading and try his/her best to trade altcoins instead of long term hold.

Yes, hold is not a joke, because the hold token or coin is a choice for someone who knows about the adoption of crypto in the future, so that person dares to hold long-term hold on the tokens and coins he has.

Every ups should go down, every down should go up. Let's say we're just only in agency trainee stage.

You should at least try to teach everyone how to trade without losing money, market is so unstable right now and if care is not taken you will keep losing money while trading, there are bad times for trading as well and we are in one right now

It is easy to say buying on bottom and selling on peak. but, most people cant do and even experienced traders/ investors not necessarily can.
so, it is normal when there are many people still say hold for long term, hold till die, etc, because of lack knowledge

be calm, let them learn from their mistake. i think after get dumping they would learn from it
so, they wont hold long term anymore in the future

If you would recall the effects of long term holding way back for bitcoin, you may see it as a very strategic and beneficial plan. If only the state during those times were the same as to what we have right now, maybe we can still consider long term holding as a smart move. The market has changed a lot and long term hodl is not as effective as it was before. We should be more aware and observant on the changes that is occuring on the market so that we can find a good timing on when to buy and when to sell your coin to make crypto investment as beneficial as possible.

In the early years of development, the value of cryptocurrencies was still low, that allowed long-term hodl to be the most suitable strategy for those years, a lot of people love this method and recommend it to most participants, but unfortunately, the development of cryptos exceeds expectations, and this strategy is gradually causing many problems. So right now, a lot of people say it's a joke when it offers too little profit while the loss and failure in this process is greater, users are forced to equip more to not become a joke on the market

If you ask me, then I would say that long term hold is not a joke. But you need to be very very selective. Less than 1% of all the cryptocurrencies available are suitable for long-term investment. And to find out such coins, you need to do a lot of research. And you need to do this research on your own, rather than depending on the analysts and review sites.

Firstly, there are holders who have been storing their coins for a couple of years, and they have already missed all the opportunities to sell coins without loss.
And secondly, the crypto course is unpredictable, and seems to be cyclical. That is, everyone expects bullish growth, only no one will say when it will happen

If long term hold was a big joke,  then how can we explain those who become millionaire for holding Bitcoin for more than 5 years? Did they waste their time, of course not. You are right, crypto is unpredictable and there is no millionaire who can foresee the good future, who can check what is good and right to invest at, those who holds, are the ones who just took the risk too.   

The act of holding even though the coin that I hold goes down and I don't sell it doesn't mean I'm stupid because who knows if the coin that I hold will drop far. And if I already have confidence in the coin, of course I do not care about the market situation.

I also think with you why many people choose to hold their coins even though they get a good price to make a sale so we can get a profit and with this result we can also get a lower coin price because in the world of crypto prices will not continue to rise because there are times when the price will fall to the lowest price, well at this point we can start investing for a long time while waiting for the best number.

No matter how scary it sounds, you are telling the true truth. I think that everyone cannot record losses because they do not understand that these losses can grow. In general, if you want to engage in long-term investment in altcoins, you need to get iron nerves and iron eggs) At this stage of the market, you should consider only short-term investments in altcoins, I think that altcoins will show strong growth only after bitcoin updates its highs. And for some reason everyone is in a hurry and doing it now.  :-[

op is a smart guy because he knows that long term hodl is not guarantee  . you will never know if what is waiting for you at the end . there are no signs if the price already reach its limit or not  but calling it a joke is not a proper word anymore because long term hodling still exist  . joke only means if a thing is not true   .  this is why i dont long term hodl but i only do short term hodl which also works good on my side  . i dont regret afterall because i can just buy back again if ever i miss some great opurtunity .

I agree in experience we never see altcoins have a pump at a very high price for a long term investment it was just pumping its market price and then going down again,
the best thing you could do is just to sell it if you already see the profit in your investment holding it until you could sell it more than you buy it was already a profit also you could just study the chart of the token you invested in, so that you know it it is a opportunity for you to invest in the altcoin or the token or it is a good opportunity for you to sell it.

I got your point but we cannot blame those people who decided to hodl their crypto unless you have suggested something. I know you are pertaining to trading when you say that they have to sell when it is at its peak then buying it when it is on the bottom. It is also simply saying "BUY LOW, SELL HIGH". Let us encourage everyone to learn and do trading. It will make crypto space healthy and profitable.

This is solely dependent on the individual, many people have their own strategy and way of benefiting from crypto, so if one chooses to hold then it's their choice and could be that it works out for them. If holding isn't profitable then keep trading  your tokens.

We need time for us to think if we want to hold or not, And actually it depend on us if we want to trade it to earn more profit or hold it until the price can take to a high price.

I dont have that kind of hardware wallet you mention but Im using some software wallet that have some safest way and more security.

Well not all share the same idea of holding. Yes some projects dump but when the market goes back to a healthy one I will come back again on this thread of yours and tel me if hodling isn't good. It will depends on the project you hold an believe, if your lucky an you hold the right tokens or coins you could gaij fortune here.

Sometimes there are people who do long-term hold because they are not very good at trading, so don't say long-term hold are foolish,
For example, look at what the value of the BNB when it first came to cmc was around $ 2 but 2 years thereafter around $ 30.
It all depends on the right choice of altcoin.

These are the people who has no time at all so let's just respect them, we don't know how they're struggling time, maybe it's not that they are lazy and foolish, they are just the one's who were taking risk that someday they can earn thru holding too, if there is no long term holder I don't think the price of coins/tokens would be stable as traders just buying and selling in short term basis.

it's not completely true though. cause if you hold at the right time, would never have to cut loss.
look back in 2017, almost any coin raise compare beginning to the end of the year. some coins triple, and most of them 5 times the price.
I call that a long term. but now is definitely not the right time ^^

Your point can't be called a smart move because care needs to be taken, for instance you have to make sure that a coin hits its real bottom which can be deceiving sometimes and seriously long term hodl is better unless the coin is bad, do you buy eos or neo at ICO price? even if you bought just 200$ worth you are a millionaire now, who says hodling is wrong should check himself

Such over successful examples are few. Much more often altcoins strongly sink in price and then do not return to their former price values. Therefore, hold coins of new projects is not a good idea. So how do you find an altcoin like BNB at the very beginning of its trading history and invest in it in time?

Bull run isn't here but we can expect that it will be there soon. And I think everyone is wise the second time around if the next bull run comes. There will be a massive sell-offs because of what we've learned from the past.
I will do it too but I wouldn't flame the people the way you have explained it although it's the reality.

it might happen but we also have to see the enthusiasm of the market if the next bullrun returns. the most important thing is we have to learn from events that have happened before, so that in the future we will not be stuck on coins and hold for a long time

its hard to predict the price sometime you will think its the bottom or peak but it is not

This is very true, personally I preferred holding for long term because it seems that I kinda suck at trading, I tried so many times already but it seems that I can't get the hang of it and it only stressed me so I decided to hold for long term while i'm still trying to enhance or improve my trading skills. Holding isn't really a bad thing, it just depend on how you look at it.

not everyone has the same thought to be able to benefit from cryptocurrency, although some of us have taken advantage of the market situation and always monitor price movements to get profits and then buy back when prices fall. and another case with people who have different goals to be able to make a profit, they do other ways to hold it for a long time to get greater profits in the future or have other reasons because they do not have much time so decided to hold back for in the long run to be able to generate profits in the future.

Your thread should not be generalized to all the coins, there are coins that are long hodl and there are coins that you need to dump when it reaches its peak, but I also do not believe that you should HODL your coin, the guiding principle should be buying low and selling high, you should have a good portion for short term profit and big portion for long time hodl so in any situation it's a win-win situation for you.

This is a very dangerous thing in such a market as the last 2 years, long-term storage can only work in an upstream market and only then make a profit, but now it’s only losses and I think that they will continue for a long time until bitcoin enters a new growth cycle. Long-term hodl turned my 10k $ into 500, it is very sad and I do not advise anyone to contact him at the moment, just learn to earn on the short-term.

I have started to rearrange my assets in Altcoin and only prioritize coins with developers who are always active with their plans. the effect of too long waiting times makes logic continue to believe that not all coins will experience a price reflection, even for coins on large exchanges.

on the other hand also have to collect more bitcoin, because only this coin will bounce very hard the first time in the future. Hodler must also actively choose their potential assets.

I loss a lot of money believing that hodlers will reap the best. It's best knowing when to count your lose than sinking with the entirety of your funds.

It would be better not to buy at peak prices, we should buy when prices are weak or experiencing correction. Indeed, holding on top to wait for a magic spike may be a long time, because it will definitely undergo a correction first, like now, bitcoin is being corrected.

Everyone has their own motivation and their own tactics in relation to cryptocurrency. Not always long-term hold is bad. Many people preserve their assets in this way. Someone buys real estate, someone puts Fiat in a banks on deposit, many buy and hold cryptocurrency.

No word long term now because the market is bad now, you are right. Most people expect more than what they want but not after the circumstances.
This makes them lose and continues to lose its funds when the market is bad is also a mistake. So many people are complaining about a strange loss. Must be his more clever management when we will trade and not.

Bullrun is starting right now. Massive sell-off caused by the bad news that happened with bitcoin already passed and we are heading toward the massive buy. bitcoin slowly but surely is going back again to the above 8k rate. that means if bitcoin will be getting the next bullrun asap. Remember about halving is the next year.

Different investors with different views
That’s why crypto currency is for the individual opinion where u make choices for yourself by yourself

Long term hodl is not that terrible; vanta token did over 500$ I think 10 days back
While some tokens got delisted

What Matters is getting to ur facts right about any token you hodl

It's a joke that someone is making fun of long term holding. Every short investment is a risk, you are gambling that price will rise or drop in some short time period and you will make a profit on that. Long term investing is safer, cause you investing in service or a product that will be used by people more and more, with that price can grow and you will have profit. Long term holding is safer, it can be more profitable.

you've got some point. but i don't know, i still do a long-term investment, tho. i do some trading and mining in 2014 and keep my btc back then. i sold it at the end of 2016. and i got a lot of profit from my long-term investment. that's still worth to do. if you keep your btc just for a few months, don't call it a long-term investment. you should hold it for 2 years or more.

It sometimes we could consider it a lucky day for us. Cause we never know what will happen next, may the price moves high that day because of hypes but we can't sure that it will sustain that price for a long time. It absolutely will be turning back to dump and that is the common thing that it happens today. And that is the reason also that not all of us relying into holding for a very long time cause the assurance isn't there but it is in everyday changes.

It will all depend on which particular cryptocurrencies will you hodl. New projects mostly do not grow or expand further that's why I can't see their value in long tern investment often. However, older and more popular cryptos have almost continuous and generally growing up. It all has risk so, in the end, it will only be you who have the right to decide for it.

If you wanted to have an idea about the possible next market move then you should study on how to analyze the market technically so you can see the different patterns and also the possible support and resistance where you will set your potential entry and exit point. It is indeed that no one can see the future but you can have some prediction with the help of technical analysis.

Working with your own analysis for a beginner is very unlikely. Need to learn more about the correct technical analysis. An unstable market will give a lot of losses and suck up the money we have. Maybe there are some people who have great fortune who can get profit in the current market.

On my arrival into the cryptocurrency space, I heard several news on the market trends of several cryptocurrencies especially the bitcoin. I heard of how the value has increased over the years and how fortunate it would have been, if one has invested in the coin and waited for the perfect opportunity to sell. It sounds so exciting to be among the early birds in the industry. On my investment in the industry, I must confess that its a very difficult decision to hodl, especially when you're not sure of the next pump and the possibility of the project demise.

The safe option of long term depends upon where you are investing your money, if you are investing in a token project and if you are holding for a long period of time i bet that you will be a bigger loss and there is no way that those tokens will help in recovering your investment as majority of the projects are on experimental basis and there is no guarantee that it would yield you the profit, so people who sold when the market increased would end up in a profit while the long term holders will be the bag holders. When it comes to bitcoin and major coins long term is the best solution.

That is true because majority is unable to follow this simple rule. It varies from individual to individual. There are actually only very few people who can make good predictions or their sixth sense works correctly. With crypto currencies, volatility is a big time challenge. To overcome this hurdle, a trader is supposed to have sound knowledge about his asset and stay patient during bad times.

I respect your opinion so you need to respect what we are doing. As a crypto coin holder I am holding my coin because I believe that it will be rise again and honestly I am also hoping for a possible bullrun in the near future that's why I am holding. And in my own opinion,you already take the risk so there's nothing wrong if you continue to hold and take the risk.

Holding it was good if the project that you said have a future and not a scam project because as of now we only seen so many project failed, And and that's true we are not the same idea on what we gonna do to our coins we have if we hold it or not. Ill believe also that someday some trusted project are going back again.

I strongly agree that now is not the time to hold the altcoin we have ... it's time we sell at the highest price today and buy it back at a lower price.. if we don't do this then we must prepare to get a big loss. Don't expect the bullrun to have happened in the past year. because bullrun is very difficult to occur in cryptocurency ... then it's time we think wisely so that we can still benefit from cryptocurency.

Well noted. If someone buys altcoins expecting to sell them during the bull run, than he should know that it doesn't occurs every year. It have to pass about 2-3 years after one huge uptrend for another to come. In most of the cases, the higher profit you expect the more time it will take.

Of course, everyone will have their own reasons when choosing to hold long-term because this is the only way to make money during this period. Holding any coin now needs to be carefully considered and hopefully that investment will help us to earn high profits in a short time. However, the risk will still be much higher but if you believe in that coin, you will certainly succeed when participating.

Bitter words but the absolute truth. We should live in the real world rather than in the world of dreams and expecting a miracle. Wise is the one who decides at the right time without greed. So we should adapt ourselves and accept the reality according to the market conditions. Long term is good only when the market is bullish otherwise holding for long is not a good option in my opinion.

HODL is about choice and particular coin to hodl as for me I do not believe in long hold unless it's a project that does on me or a project I think they have working products but if it's just to hold for long I prefer trading. As stated above unless it's a project that has Tasted a long time without shaking which are few.

Holding is choose by some one have buy altcoin or ICO with higher price and after listing on exchange market price is down, they keep trust with ICO site investing back to higher again and keep holding, we don't know when some one got lucky with their coin by holding with long term and can raise more than 100% profit if keep hold their coin and not joke.

I only hold BTC and ETH for long term goal but OP has a point that instead of waiting for another bull run then we should find other ways to earn especially during this bearish market though short term trading is more riskier compare to holding but with a proper knowledge and good strategy, it will work.

Indeed, it would be nice to do short-term trading so that we can produce, I think that long-term holding will be very disadvantage if we do not follow the development of existing prices because we can lose important momentum when prices rise and moreover if it is calculated we do daily trading with long-term , profits will be greater in daily trading.

i am joining the train of now holding any token. i have lost a huge number of tokens waiting for a bull market while the plummet in zero. i am disappointed. in all the tokens i have been holding, only one has paid off. the rest has little or no value current.  i only bank on the future market if there will be any bull.  i doubt if there will be any major move currently.

Biggest mistake for all traders that they know about what happen next with the chart price, they still gambling on it, still doing speculation that just make them lose their money. 90% trader just using "hope" technical when enter to market. And you know what happen next, they screaming when market get crashed.

I agree with you, i have also witnessed a lot of successful stories from my friends and colleagues who held some coins for a long time. It is not about selling off for quick profit, once you discover a good and promising project holding is likely to be profitable.

It's always good to buy at the botton and sell at the peak, but you have to have time to do that, it's not a simple task to do

There are a lot of holders that have BTC as investment but not the knowledge and time to do trades

I have a job that consumes me a lot of time, it's impossible to keep updated every day to speculate about the market and trades, but I have my portfolio, I'm holding and I'm happy with my situation

In general, you are right, of course. To sell at the peak of prices and to buy at its recession is a general rule of making good profit in this market. The problem for most users of cryptocurrency only lies in correctly determining when the price peak has come. Here, opinions tend to diverge. In addition, not everyone has the opportunity and desire to constantly monitor the price in the market and constantly participate in tenders. Therefore, many hope for a significant increase in the price of cryptocurrency after some long time.

sometimes someone is sure of the hold that they think will secure their assets. but if holding for too long will also affect existing assets, so maybe I think now if you look at market conditions, we don't have to hold it for too long or we will be bored with our unstable profits

Yes, holding assets for too long will obviously bore us in monitoring the market, because market conditions are always changing so that the value of our assets is also unstable when market conditions change suddenly.

well buddy, listen , for now , i am not sure long term hodl is a good idea for growing your money, because the market is getting out of balance over time , but somehow i still believe 5-10 years from now it going to stable , so if u have a holy strong hand , u in the right choice , but if not , u just cut your money instantly.

if a person looks at the market and sees the potential on the horizon of 5-10 years, then he will not worry because the price of his coins changes every week. such people should understand that every reduction in the price of their coins is an opportunity to make their position even stronger. But this I only say about fundamentally strong coins and not about some shitcoins

I don't know why he's too upset for long term hodlers, maybe he's holding Bitcoin since the bull run up to now, well for those who don't believe in long term holding we don't judge you and we respect you, but for us who believes in long term hodling, we have seen something that will change our life in the future so we are holding in the long run.

Yes, learning the things that we've done and not during those times. And being a wise investor would be the benefit of it because we've experienced it and that's going to be helpful.
It's right that holding for a long time might not be good for others but there's also a benefit on it, who knows? but I've decided to have a part of it to be good in long term.

I do not hold for long anyway which is a personal choice unless it's a very genuine project that maybe dumped on me I will hold it so as to recover back but if it's all these altcoins out there without future I prefer day trading with them.

Earning money can never ever be fun and we all do it because there is no other option to survive. Even if the market bores us, we still have to do out job as this is real life. The only way to avoid boredom is to do what you love and to love what you do. Besides, if the coin being held is bitcoin, then it is impossible to feel done with crypto currencies. Volatility and instability is what keeps thrill in this market.

doing hold must be based on coins that are held too, we cannot hold with coins that cannot develop because it will just spend time. so when doing a hold you must understand the coins that you hold so that when doing a hold we do not hesitate

Earning money with holding is funny because we can earn much profit with some altcoin can increase to higher price, but have many cases with altcoin become lower price after holding in long term. for me keep selling altcoin after raised profit without holding for long term because get many bad experience with holding coin have lower price.

therefore having knowledge is the most important thing for holding long term, because not all coins have good potential for a long time. with us knowing the background of the coin from the project being developed, then at least it will make us have our own predictions about holding for a long time or only for a short time

Good analogy but then someone who bought bitcoin at $20k may not agree with you because his angle of investment has been bad. So it's a game of perspectives. However, I still believe that with all the positive on going activities around bitcoin and cryptocurrency, we have not see the top of bitcoin yet. This is the conviction of investing in bitcoin and why many people are not pressing the panic button yet.

Yesterday I came across a piece of news which claimed that the total amount of BTC lying in the exchange hot wallets is at an all time high amount. Now this is not good news for those who are planning to hold their coins for long term. The chances of whales dumping huge amounts of coins in the cryptocurrency markets are increasing with every passing month.

Well, why is a long-term hold immediately bad? I believe that buying and holding cryptocurrency to its peak is easier than buying and selling it regularly, while still feeling indignant every time you bet. In other words, you offer to take risks every time you can just wait for the next growth and sell where it will be profitable for you. Of course, everyone decides for himself here, but how many have you seen now who successfully earn by buying and selling cryptocurrency daily?

The news is that for a very long period of time it was noticed that 11.58 million bitcoins did not leave their wallets during the last year. That is, a huge number of people really believe in this industry and understand what will happen in the future. Even if the main amount of these bitcoins lies on the wallets of whales it makes us think that it is not necessary to sell your bitcoins.

Yes, they are doing this for they believe that it works fine and profitable in the coming years.
But what the sense if we just keep it holding cause this is not a way to help the market grow. Users are needing today not holders for we know that Bitcoin isn't just an investment but it is a currency instead that supposedly we have to use it every day.

But on the other hand if you fall short in terms of trading skills or can’t monitor the prices from time to time then long term hodl would be a better choice. It is not a joke if you think about it but rather it is a matter of convenience along with your skills. Sometimes it is much safer to do long term hodl especially if the coin would have a good future like Bitcoin and ETH as an example or any other crypto that you believe so along with the factual data that you had gathered but I prefer the OP’s suggestion tho.

when we hold it, there are more people who sell, and they are the ones who are lucky, because after that the price goes down and we keep holding it in. when the price goes down, the investor who starts selling enters the market to make a purchase, and the price goes up. from here we can calculate which is more profitable

Long time invest planing here you can follow us, explain when bitcoin price 7000$ then you can buy 20-30 BTC and take still long time holding. After moment later when bitcoin price going up 12000$ then you can sell and keep more profits.

Crypto invest was able to change many people's life because of long term hodl, those who have no coins to sell in 2017 all missed out, they are people like you who always thought that taking out profits is the best, they don't bother to hold because of what they belief in, i take out profits too but i have coins i am holding for long term

What you say is true. Everyone has their own strategies and reasons for doing things, and I don't think there is anything wrong while they are comfortable doing it, whether in the end they will get the loss and the failure itself will get the results. As long as they feel they can make profits in the long run or can make profits by trading, both are things that can be done by everyone and everyone can choose what suits them.

In my opinion, long term hold can apply to some coins, not all coins. For example BNB Coin, I think investors get huge profits if they hold for the long term and are proven from the price below $ 1 when the ICO and now it's above $ 15 even the highest price of $ 30. Long term hold can be profitable if we choose the right coin

Your suggestion is interesting, for me Long term is a hold coin that has a rating of 1-10 is good for the long term

Sad but it is true that holding long term people is not getting profit in crypto. What happened with 2018 holders will never be forgotten! I stopped holding rather I do trade and signature campaign. I am very happy with the cash money! 

That's why it's called long term because you don't mind leaving your coin for years until there is evident profit. I don't think it's a joke since I have proven it for years. But I guess, those weak hands can say it's a joke since they can't hold for long and only want an instant profit right from the get go.

Arguably the best benefit of this strategy though is the fact that you’ll pay a reduced tax rate. Every time you exchange one cryptocurrency for another it is a taxable event. Any gain that you have made must be reported, and the government will expect you to pay taxes on it. However, there is special treatment for long-term capital gains, and as a long-term holder, you can take advantage of this.

Long term hodl is not a joke
It all depends on the type of hodler that you are

Do you hold tokens just for hodl sake ? Or because you have detailed facts About it progressing ?
Figure that out

I admit I made a mistake at peak since I didn't sell everything I have which until I still hold, but I would not call myself foolish as in overall I still made a good profit investing in crypto, my mistake gives me a learning experience so I will make sure I would do better next time.

No one can ascertain that all their holdings will give profit, maybe some are destine to be  shitcoins but at least in overall we are profitable.

Exactly on this date last year, the price of Bitcoin was $ 3429. So there is almost 100% profit. What exactly is a joke? I think 100% profit for a year is quite a profitable rate.
No matter who says what, I'm going to hodl Bitcoin. In the long run, I am confident that I will receive more than my investment in the next 10 years.

We are all in here are made mistake about holding but it was our decision to hold it than to sell them early with a small price, And Ill think now one be make reason on that. And I agree with our mistake is a learning for us so in a future we can aware on that again an always careful.

Not all the time we earn in holding, One of them become shitcoins in no time. And yes we are profitable atleast.

Well it appears this is happening because project of this time are not as dedicated as that of before, or the market is not as friendly as before, whatever the case maybe, 2018 was definitely an eye opener for many investors, nobody expected to see such a massive loss, many people haven't recover from it yet, so holding is not a idea for many people at the moment.

It's easy to say to buy at the bottom and sell in low.  But how do you know that when the bottom or peak is reached? One wrong move in a day trading can disturb your total trading. And everybody here is not that much expert to play with the market for them long term hold is a safe option.  For example lests say you buy BTC today at 7250$ and tomorrow it reached at 8000$ so you can misjudge the price rise as a peak and sell your Coin. But a holder who is looking for 10K$ he holds. And day after tomorrow it keep rising but you are looking it to come down again below 7250$. So who will be the winner here?

Many of them are reluctant to use long-term. Long-term investments are capable of doubling than you commonly receive, even more.
Why to doubt it again. Most of them fear the downfall. See the market condition is quite awake and stable this investment becomes commonplace and suitable to be applied. I highly recommend it once in this bright long term.

agree, not all coins are owned even though it is not a long term hold, it also does not guarantee a profit and long term hold is not a joke because it also includes a strategy that at least our mentality and confidence will continue to be tested when we decide for long term hold. so this is not funny because afterall hard efforts will give good results too