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Jorg Molt was recently ridiculed on Twitter for claiming to be a co-founder of Bitcoin despite no one ever hearing of him. Today, he tweeted that Bitcoin’s price should recover because he just made an apparently large purchase.

Early this month, BeInCrypto reported on a new ‘fake Satoshi’ named Jorg Molt. Introduced at the SIMS convention at Symbiosis International University as the ‘co-founder of Bitcoin,’ Molt has since then stuck by his story. Despite being ridiculed on crypto-Twitter and beyond, Molt maintains he was present at Bitcoin’s founding, and subsequently claims to own 250,000 BTC.

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The first time I heard of the new Faketoshi himself, Jorg Molt, he was confronted by my man, I repeat! My man! Ken Bozak. Ken was in a blockchain conference where he took a video of himself pointing to Jorg Molt, the self-proclaimed new Faketoshi, saying that he is a scammer. I just watched his entire clip on Twitter, where they even took Ken's cap.

My man, Ken Bozak, was brave enough to do this to really expose Jorg "The New Faketoshi" Molt. I met Ken personally at Token 2049 Hongkong, and he was a fun guy to talk to.

So the new Faketoshi claims that he owned a whooping 250,000 BTC? Are you freaking kidding me man! Since I'm active in conferences, I would not hesitate to take a selfie with Faketoshi saying "I'm a huge basher of yours!" before pressing the button.

It's totally clear that satoshi intended to be anonymous for his life. He had done so much effort just to hide his tracks and he won't come on now revealing in a stupid way.
If satoshi really wanted to reveal himself, he would have come up with verifiable proof. Either satoshi is dead or don't want to reveal him till date.

Nothing but a scandalous charade that this guy is playing. Satoshi Nakamoto should have left some form of provability behind in order to stop these scandals from happening. Way too many gullible people are falling for these shiesty tricks. I'm willing to bet that this guy has no proof of anything, and I am certain of one thing, that after this guy, there will be plenty of more great pretenders and perpetrators looking to dupe poor unsuspecting people out of their hard earned cash. Some people have no shame  :-\

Satoshi can sign a message using his private keys, OR, he could use his GPG signature for signing messages as he did before. The form of provability is that there are at least 2 ways that someone can prove they are at least highly likely to be SN by using one, or both of those methods to sign a message.

I believe that such dreamer should be imprisoned.

This guy is not only fake, but also scamming people.

I wonder in the next few decades how many people will call themselves as Satoshi because in this year there were already 2 people who called themselves satoshi..  what a strange person  :D

Most probably. And I am not sure if posts like OP are good by making people aware they should avoid him or do bad making this guy even more known/publicised.

Probably just a a troll look for cheap popularity. No real person announces his portfolio value.


He can claim as long as he wants but his claim can only be valid if only a message can be signed by him from the genesis wallet and Satoshi's anonymity is not as cheap as they all are claiming because the real satoshi is not as noisy as them

These types of people should not be given much importance, there is also the very high probability that it can turn out to be a scammer, he will not change anything, he can say many things, what really matters now is to review the market and support the adoption of Bitcoin . I think he only has cavida is to make fun of him ..

this guy has crossed all the limits of madness, he is ridiculing himself to the max. I wonder how he can have 1400 twitter followers? who is the people who follows him on twitter? who the hell use his site? and what the hell does he mean by co-founder? how many clowns are left claiming to be satoshi?

PS:

do not use this site: https://satoshi-school.com

That is why so many people are claiming they are the real Satoshi Nakamoto because if they happen to make them believe what he is saying people will trust him money for investment and the impostor gets tons of money just by doing that.

Its would be interesting to see if somebody could challenge these so called "faketoshi" generation to submit themselves into a lie detector test and at the same time have a consultation with mental health professionals such as psychiatrists, etc.,  to verify if they have mental health issues unbeknownst to the public. :)

Let him sign a message that he truly owns that 250,000 btc first to prove that he's saying a fact. Although we all knew it that he's doing this for publicity and satoshi will never show himself again.

This is my first time to hear the name of this guy and its good that OP is making aware about this new fake Satoshi. I don’t know why people are introducing theirselves as Satoshi even if they are not, its clearly the goal is to create panic and to scam people. Satoshi will never reveal his identity, its been 10 years and yet he is still anonymous.

His been in the news for the last couple of months and the OP has been 'exposing' this fake Satoshi.

Anyways, just like CSW, this guy just want to get attention, simply as that. I don't know if he is being paid to attend conferences or just show in crypto gathering randomly. But there's something in common between the two supposedly faketoshi, even though they have been ridiculed in social media and exposed, it doesn't matter. As long as people are going to feed their egocentric personalities, they will still go out and tell the world that they are the real Satoshi and troll everyone,  ;D

This guy should be just ignored and forgotten, but somehow some of the crypto media keeps posting about his tweets when even those tweets don't get likes. These are clickbate news in order to sell with outrage effect.

why even bother with this guy? and I can't believe that there are people who believes this guy? the dude is a fraudster and needs to be forgotten, more attention will just bring more money to him.

it is also totally clear that the topic has nothing to do about satoshi revealing himself. if you read it you'll know. the guy is claiming to be a co-founder and not claiming to be Satoshi.

It's pointless to even ask these scammers to sign a message because we already know they can't.

No one disappears for nearly a whole decade to spontaneously sign a message which could inflict more harm than good privacy wise. Goverments would happily use that against him to potentially force him to hand over his private keys and thus his wealth. I'm pretty sure they can make up a case against him to imprison him until he breaks mentally and physically and gives up his private keys.

The very fact that governments aren't chasing after CSW just shows that they do not believe in his scams and lies either.  :D

All these fictitious legends about 'real Satoshi' amuse me very much. People who take on this role want to become famous being just a fake, are trying to create a hype wave, but all of them are just laughing stock

It's so funny when people are trying to claim the glory and honour that should solely go to Satoshi Nakamot for his creative invention. These guys could do themselves a good favour and bring up something new or better still a solution that would help promote the adoption of bitcoin as a mode of payment more feasible other than wasting their time to defend an identity they have no knowledge about.

More people are claiming to be satoshi, but the cryptocurrency community cannot be fooled. But ordinary people and newbies who
would fall victim to scams like this. The original Satoshi Nakamoto couldn't possibly confess in such an amateurish way conducted
by Jorg Molt, let the public judge the lies Jorg Molt has done. We as people the smart ones will not get into his trap, let those faketoshi
appear. In the end this faketoshi will disappear by itself, because now people are getting smarter in finding the truth. We don't give
people like Jorg Molt this the stage to make himself famous, with us continuing to discuss it. Now just focus on the analysis of movement
the price of bitcoin, which I feel is more important.

if nothing else, their tweets will give some commotion to newbies. and will pave the way for some of them to find the real truth about satoshi. so no harm done as long as you are not believing their crap.
maybe a good promotion also for crypto? who knows, because of them, some noobs got their interest in crypto. and so another crypto user in the making will emerge.
people will try and try to come up with their own stunts. it is only up to the user how he will take all the info given to him.

When the issue came out where Jorg Molt claimed to be a co-founder of bitcoin in a conference I guess, I got irritated a bit. Because where did he get that confidence to claim himself as one. Well if you've been in crypto for a long time, you won't fall for all those Fake Satoshi popping out but how about newbies who might believe them. It will just confuse them.

Definitely agree!
It's difficult to proclaim to be satoshi in public. They are risking their life, popularity and security when they are claiming as Satoshi. But probably, they know the consequences and if they just making fake news, for sure they just wany to be famous. For me, satoshi is not yet dead, he is just silent for his own purposes. Maybe, for his safety or he just want to surprise the crypto fanatics.

@cheezcarls the community has lost interest in knowing Satoshi’s ID because each one of these impostors are only lying to us, untill they can move Satoshis coins they should not make such claims and embarrass themselvese. Also I saw his Twitter account he’s not got much publicity, hence I believe soon he’ll disappear and stop making such claims. However if you do meet him then do remind him that Bitcoins works on demand and supply formula it seems he lacks the basic information.

He has a hidden agenda on this one and pretty sure he’s just wasting our time as we all know Satoshi will remain anonymous. If he is Satoshi then simple way to prove it but he cant because he is just messing around. I don’t trust people who are saying that Satoshi lives on their blood, its not worth to read honestly.

If you look at the bright side, we know that this will help satoshi to hide his/her/their real identity further. And most importantly, satoshi is not a con artist like them who has a terrible attitude.

Just what they gained from doing this? Is it money? Or promotional activities? I wonder why people would go as far as claiming they're satoshi that would always get ridiculed.

of course now it is familiar to us when we hear about people claiming to be false satoshi because previously there were some figures who also claimed to be satoshi but we are not easy to believe even though they showed 250,000 btc, because we believe the original satoshi will never return to publicize his identity, maybe he knew it would be a threat to him if the government and politicians knew his true identity.

We witnessed the clown which Craig Wright made of himself in continually claiming to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto and the virus that he started has just transferred into another guy named Jorg Molt as he transformed and shed his old skin to emerge as the co-founder of Bitcoin with as much as 250,000 pieces of Bitcoin under his name. Well, if this man is enjoying the attention that he is getting, then at least he can be fairly successful at that and congratulations to him. I am sure that this is not going to be the last time we hear of this man because soon he can be coming with another good claim that is of course just as outrageous as ever. At least, he never claimed to be the founder but just the co-founder.

this has been a common occurrence for some time now and it only is going to happen more and more every time we give these people more attention because that is what they seek. from Craig Wright to all these smaller scammers, they all want that attention at a different degree. the good news is that the more people try this scam the shorter the time they get ridiculed and forgotten.

I'm not even sure why we're wasting on these people who obviously are just trying to get publicity that's connected with bitcoin. There's been a lot of them in the past already and there will still be those who will claim they're Satoshi in the future. I think we should just treat them like the novelty that they are and don't allow them the satisfaction of getting free publicity. We all know the real Satoshi won't show up.

thats the thing
even though they are ridiculed
they want to get that free publicity and as people always say any publicity is good
i am sure that they are upto no good when they are ready to sell themselves for it

I can’t understand one thing. Why do people impersonate Satoshi without proofs confirming the identity? As for me, it’s a shame to be a fool

They are simply worthless individuals who cannot achieve something in their lives. They use other people's identities to advertise themselves, but as for me it looks like a shame

In the first place, the moment he says the bitcoin price will not recover because he bought a large volume of it is already fishy. In this case, people should already put in their mind that this kind of wordings is an attempt to manipulate the market. In this case, he wanted to bring bitcoin down from his influence. And we can't really believe him, if he is the absolute owner or some sort of a contributor to bitcoin in its early stages, he don't have any reason to buy large portion of it because he surely does have allot of it in the first place.

I think a lot of crazy people claim to be a prophet this year, now see many people who claim to be Satoshi, so what benefits from being Satoshi now, I have read about this Fakesatoshi, but I'm a little hesitant about reading his Twitter why he buys if he really has 250k BTC in his wallet, slightly tickled my stomach

I think more or less these things were bound to happen and even satoshi(the real one) would have thought of it that more popular people will portray them as real founder and will claim to hold a ton of BTC. Maybe this was why signed message was included in the original protocol? Not quite a developer but this could have been one of reasons. Moreover talking about these faketoshis, this is just a trend which would obviously end once people would realize that Satoshi is never going to come back or even if he would that would come with a signed message.

Aren't they're tired claiming for a nonsense talk? With so many fakesatoshis coming around the crypto space, it is hard to believe that they are the true Founder of bitcoin.
 He thought crypto investors will be shaken by his threat with his 250,000 bitcoins. Epic fail to his claims. Satoshi will stay as a secret identity. No one will ever gonna believe otherwise they have a strong evidence.

I don't think we should be giving attention to random faketoshi's any longer. It is either you have the keys or not. If you don't own the keys you are not Satoshi.

Even if it happens the actual Satoshi can't recover his keys, he would never try to persuade the community. Bitcoin is simple as that. All these lies CW told to the judges, omg. All these fairy tales.

Not trusting anyone but the tech.

It's not the first and not the last time when someone will call himself Satoshi... moreover, people still believe in that. In my opinion, we will never got to know who really is (or are) Satoshi.

this may be not the first because I have often heard the news about fake Satoshi that has sprung up lately, while there is no hard evidence if there someone claims to be himself as Satoshi. all crypto holders of course is would want to meet with the real Satoshi but until now we don't know his whereabouts and is he still alive today? of course we do not know.

me iether i also heard many rumors and speculations about the satoshi's identity revalation  and some of them have an evidence but dont know if that evidence is solid enough to convince the people   but until now , most of us wont believe of these so called satoshi that appeard lately .

no not all . i dont want to meet him because that may seem impossbile because he is located on a far country .  i dont have an idea if he is still alive or not but im not interested to dig things up

Many soon to follow, Maybe when the real satoshi really appear no one will also believed him, as we are intact in the idea now that satoshi really just aim to be hidden and not publicized himself which is better for him as  his security will be at stake. For so many individual claim to be him , we don't know who among them is the closest to be like him. We don't know as we still don't know till how much BTC can be. Both character is mysterious.

Yeah since the real Satoshi still hiding itself so we cannot control those faketoshi to come out to gain popularity or for their upcoming project to be known, let's just be careful with it, for sure if he's the real Satoshi he can prove himself without any hesitatation just like Craig, where in he can't answer everything that was asking for him regarding the blockchain.

Indeed, it's just making things so complicated but we have to understand that it is going to be a part of our journey and we can still encounter some of them in the future. I just hope that they are able to stand for themselves because they are just putting themselves into a problem, do they really think that claiming themselves as someone else will be a great idea to get the attention of other people? isn't that being ridiculous? because people have different way of perception and it's possible that they may think bad about you. A lot of us are getting deceive by some of them like newbies but not all of them, only those people who can easily deceive by words and not by acts.

As long as people so interested in Satoshi and eager to reveal its identity, as long all kind of persons will appear who claim to be Satoshi. People want attention and glory, even fake.
I don't think that revealing identity of Satoshi.is relevant for any Bitcoin user, it's just question of curiosity. So, just let Satoshi be and don't bother who he really is.

That part actually makes sense. It is not ridiculous at all. If one day, the real satoshi decides to show himself, it will be exactly like that. Many people will be hearing his real name for the first time. (unless he is someone we already know like Nick Szabo, Hal Finney etc)

I made a mistake by seeing this (Jorg Molt) guy(!)'s twitter though... Now I can't unsee it. Don't.

Let his blind followers see that so they will be aware who they are following. With even the least that he can do to prove authenticity with what he say can be done with something like that. But as usual, reasons like what  you have explained can be his excuse.

1. The real Satoshi would not be a trader. He did not care about fiat money.
2. The real Satoshi wouldn't need to buy BTC!
3. The real Satoshi would be able to sign the Genesis Block

I want to see him in a cage with Craig Wright. Maybe somebody can organize a debate between these two, but in a locked space so none of them can escape.

I'm satoshi i have 200 BTC!
No I'm Satoshi I have a patent!

You are not getting the point. The man isn't claiming that he is Satoshi himself but a co-founder of Bitcoin which is still absurd.

You can see this man getting interviewed all over Youtube too and getting so much dislikes. Not only that, he is lying about being friends with Andreas Antonopoulos which he clearly stated its a lie. There's also rumors spreading that he is wanted in germany, I haven't confirmed it though.

That's crazy!  ;D
But seriously, those two really need to see a psychiatrist.

Just wondering, why people claim for being Satoshi. What do they get for that? Like obviously, people will just laugh at their face and no one will believe fake claims otherwise they show us proof like signed message. Like just f*cking do it. Unless, they're being paid to create such fuss.

I think only clueless people will believe things like this, people claiming that they are Satoshi or related to how Bitcoin started. They probably just want to scam people who will believe in them.

I am not sure why they said all the claimers as satoshis are fake. Do they or someone knows the real identity of satoshi?

This kind of arguments are being argued again and again. In my opinion the real satoshi has a reason why he didn't reveal his identity, so maybe this is the basis of others why they says that the claimers are all fakesatoshis.

I have asserted before that we are going to be having more and more fakesotoshi, whenever one fails, another will resurrect in other to gain popularity. This is nothing but just popularity's sake, and I hope h does not unnecessarily invite an unwanted guest to his house. A real Satoshi will never say something unreasonable because he knows the bigger work ahead.

Well, this is expected that many will appear and claim that they are the real satoshi because no one already saw the real one. like other other people that they spread all over the world that they are the god, the gods son and the appointed son. its just like that to become popular and people will worship them. so in the next year many will appear again and again.

Since Satoshi became silent, a lot of individuals started claiming to be the creator of bitcoin. Satoshi intended to be anonymous and had left no trace for him to be known publicly. So, claiming to be satoshi itself is ridiculous, not unless someone will make a solid proof of being Satoshi.

It's fun to think that someone else would believe this, and I watched in her past interview that many people were listening to her talk. I'm just sad now that his name is ruined now haha, I'm sure when he sits in the hot seat and people ask what prof he can do he might cry in shame.

There will always be lots of Faketoshi who will appear just to ask for fame and just to gain people's attention. These people only deserve to be ignored. The real Satoshi has kept his identity for such a long time so I don't get the point of revealing his true identity during this time. If they really want to reveal or prove something, the best thing that they could do is to provide a piece of concrete evidence because people are too smart not to believe in rumours and fake news about personalities who are claiming to be the real satoshi.