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Title: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: VelvetCapital on December 01, 2019, 02:31:44 PM
I just posted an article on Medium to shed light upon diversification into crypto for traditional investors.
https://medium.com/velvet-capital/want-to-diversify-your-portfolio-adding-some-crypto-might-help-32c62eb402e?source=friends_link&sk=f6265fc28cad39fb0a86095e6d3cfc8a

Curious to hear your thoughts. Is the low correlation with traditional assets going to be persistent? What do you think?


Title: Re: Want to diversify your portfolio? Adding some crypto might help
Post by: fiulpro on December 01, 2019, 02:39:22 PM
Instead if diversity it would add an element that no one would like trust me because not everyone is open to these things , companies involving the IT sector and the software sector is often impressed by these things , but other sectors don't appreciate it much, therefore you should understand that adding this to your resume could spark both negative and positive things .
Hopefully the company appreciates this .


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: lionheart78 on December 01, 2019, 02:47:39 PM
Somehow crypto diversifies our investment portfolio.  If a person is into cryptocurrency and investment, he will have tons of options to choose from, ranging from shit altcoins to valuable ones.  Aside from that adding cryptocurrency to our investment portfolio is a diversification itself.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: BrewMaster on December 01, 2019, 02:55:21 PM
that is the advice that i have been giving others and also following myself! in fact each time a newbie mentions "portfolio" and "diversification" while saying their portfolio only consists of bitcoin and two dozen altcoins i tell them they have NOT diversified at all. and real diversification is when you have traditional assets and then buy bitcoin alongside them to benefit from the huge profit that bitcoin gives you while still having one leg in the traditional market and enjoy the less risk that they give you.
and of course the main reason is that there isn't any correlation between bitcoin and any of the other markets whatsoever.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: Daniel91 on December 01, 2019, 02:58:43 PM
In my case, yes.
I think it's never good to invest money in just one type of investment, it's too risky.
Of course I believe in bitcoin and crypto but I still want to have a much wider portfolio of investments and that's why I invest in both pension and mutual funds and life insurance.
This way I feel more secure and at peace, in a way.
I expect the most from bitcoin but I'm ready to wait and I'm here for the long term.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: noormcs5 on December 01, 2019, 03:00:28 PM
Somehow crypto diversifies our investment portfolio.  If a person is into cryptocurrency and investment, he will have tons of options to choose from, ranging from shit altcoins to valuable ones.  Aside from that adding cryptocurrency to our investment portfolio is a diversification itself.

But there are many people who buy a single coin and wait for it to pump and gain profit. Most of the time, the coins goes down and their whole portfolio is down. It is always said "Not to keep your all eggs in one basket" and this is particularly true for cypto currencies. If you have many coins, even if you get a loss from few, you may still get profits from the others.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: Rozanna84 on December 01, 2019, 03:03:06 PM
Totally) I just keep up to date, read a lot of reviews, choose which one is worth of investing/


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: mk4 on December 01, 2019, 03:06:49 PM
I mean, I personally don't think that having cryptocurrencies(probably nothing other than btc and eth) in your investment portfolio is absolutely 100% necessary, but I definitely highly suggest having a small percentage of BTC on anyone's portfolio. Just for the "what if" factor. Because let's be real here, bitcoin isn't guaranteed to reach millions in price(though I'm betting on it).


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: ampu on December 01, 2019, 04:23:13 PM
Investing in cryptocurrencies is more risky than other types of investment but the liquidity of the investments is quite good if investing in the Top 30 altcoin. Investors are sure they will invest part of their money in this market but I think it will not be higher than other markets. This is a new market for all investors.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: mk4 on December 01, 2019, 04:33:02 PM
Investing in cryptocurrencies is more risky than other types of investment but the liquidity of the investments is quite good if investing in the Top 30 altcoin.

https://i.imgur.com/KXFitLd.png

Probably below XRP or USDT, the liquidity is actually bad. It won't even need a really wealthy person to move the needle significantly. Also, not to mention that investing in the top 30 altcoins is a bad idea in the first place. Investing in the top 30 cryptocurrencies is far far far different from investing in the top 30 stocks.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: Theb on December 01, 2019, 05:33:18 PM
Even though I'm not saying it often just concentraing all your money alone in crypto is something a careless person would do. That's why I also have money in traditional investments such as stocks which I also have diversified my money onto different sectors/industries as well. The key here is to diversify your money but at the same time its not too diversified that you aren't maximizing your money that's why when I buy and hold assets I only focus on to 2 to 3 stocks and 1 to 2 cryptos at a time.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: Lauren Smith on December 01, 2019, 06:07:24 PM
Pretty good article. You can tell outside investors interested in diversifying their portfolio with crypto because we starting to see crypto in the traditional stock markets online. I don't know too much about traditional stocks but I have seen cryptos being added there. This proves people are interested and I think it's important to diversify in different areas. Like crypto is an investment in technology of the future and should be in anyone's portfolio.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: bitvalak on December 01, 2019, 06:45:16 PM
I just posted an article on Medium to shed light upon diversification into crypto for traditional investors.
https://medium.com/velvet-capital/want-to-diversify-your-portfolio-adding-some-crypto-might-help-32c62eb402e?source=friends_link&sk=f6265fc28cad39fb0a86095e6d3cfc8a

Curious to hear your thoughts. Is the low correlation with traditional assets going to be persistent? What do you think?
It's easier to diversify one category because it's more efficient to monitor.
If you put crypto and stock together in my opinion a little more troublesome because the exchange hours don't occur for a whole week.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: Wendigo on December 01, 2019, 07:17:21 PM
Crypto investments are more or less akin to gambling right now but so are stocks. I am not sure what is the lesser evil though. Maybe stock up on precious metals?


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: TRONTON on December 01, 2019, 07:25:38 PM
I chatted with many traders, most people who are suitable for crypto trading will throw away their focus on stock/other, and choose diversification only from crypto. They understand the risks and like more interesting fluctuations.

both types of investment have high complexity so they are not confused if they only choose one. So the level of comfort in a portfolio is based on comfort with strategies that often find profit effectiveness.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: rdluffy on December 01, 2019, 09:40:39 PM
Yes, with cryptos I diversified my portfolio
I don't have only cryptos, I can't afford to invest all on BTC like some guys, I prefer to diversify and have my own business, my cryptos, my bank savings, and even my money under my bed  ;D ;D ;D

Yes we have to be prepared for any kind of situation


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: Kyraishi on December 01, 2019, 09:44:07 PM
I just posted an article on Medium to shed light upon diversification into crypto for traditional investors.
https://medium.com/velvet-capital/want-to-diversify-your-portfolio-adding-some-crypto-might-help-32c62eb402e?source=friends_link&sk=f6265fc28cad39fb0a86095e6d3cfc8a

Curious to hear your thoughts. Is the low correlation with traditional assets going to be persistent? What do you think?
It's going to be hard to attract more institutional investors, there is no question that a lot of them got burned by the market crash last year and there is a 99% chance they aren't going to be coming back in the game.

It just seems like milennials and other risk-taking people who are actually invested in the crypto-scene, and the worst part is that a lot of those people are only invested in crypto-currencies. I personally think, going 100% in crypto is the worst decision you can make, and people need a lot  safer holdings (like real estate).


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: hello_good_sir on December 01, 2019, 09:57:40 PM
Most crypto-investors, like me and my friends will understand that the market is basically a gamble if you make money or not. I personally wouldn't ever invest in crypto if I had a lot more financial freedom, but so far I just put it off as a hobby and if I end up making profits, I sell and maintain my portfolio at a certain value.

Have the mindset that the money you have in crypto is already gone, and I would invest in crypto if I didn't have investments in more safer, traditional options.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: boyptc on December 01, 2019, 10:01:56 PM
in fact each time a newbie mentions "portfolio" and "diversification" while saying their portfolio only consists of bitcoin and two dozen altcoins i tell them they have NOT diversified at all.
I saw them a lot of times, when they are asked about their crypto portfolio it's no longer a surprise for me if they will mention a lot of altcoins included to their portfolio which is around 10 or more.

and real diversification is when you have traditional assets and then buy bitcoin alongside them to benefit from the huge profit that bitcoin gives you while still having one leg in the traditional market and enjoy the less risk that they give you.
I have understood this lately, real diversification is not just with crypto but you have to include the real-world assets and investments that we know.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: xiboothrezi on December 01, 2019, 10:11:23 PM
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It just seems like milennials and other risk-taking people who are actually invested in the crypto-scene, and the worst part is that a lot of those people are only invested in crypto-currencies. I personally think, going 100% in crypto is the worst decision you can make, and people need a lot  safer holdings (like real estate).
You are right, and this is where the importance of risk management is. Even though cryptocurrency has a good opportunity for those who like to take risks, but plan B must really be prepared to overcome the worst. Dividing investment into several parts is one way to avoid losing all at once, as well as in investing cryptocurrency must be further divided into several coins and potential tokens.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: pixie85 on December 01, 2019, 10:31:07 PM
I'm not a traditional investor so it doesn't help me to diversify. I only have my apartment, some fiat and some cryptocurrencies.

I'm not going to diversify by buying into stocks. I invest in what I know and understand and at this time its real estate and Bitcoin.
Stock market doesn't look attractive at this time and there's a high risk or recession. Many traditional investors would laugh at me but I find Bitcoin to be a very safe investment when my choices are between stocks, bonds, fiat currencies and real estate.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: CryptoBry on December 02, 2019, 12:08:52 AM


In my view, cryptocurrency can be a good addition to a mix of someone's basket of investments and as a way to diversify one's exposure to the marketplace. For the past many exciting years, cryptocurrency (not including the shitcoins, of course) has been giving good return of investment (ROI) though the problem is that this industry can be volatile from time to time that is why many can be afraid to stake a part of their assets in here. Notwithstanding the inherent risks, many fund managers and institutional investment platforms are already into cryptocurrency partly because other investment vehicles have been dull for the past many years, so they look for good alternatives.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: mk4 on December 02, 2019, 02:35:10 AM
Crypto investments are more or less akin to gambling right now but so are stocks. I am not sure what is the lesser evil though. Maybe stock up on precious metals?

Sure. Investing in stocks sure also has a gambling aspect too, but think about it. You're investing in businesses that actually has a working product and is running right now, versus 99% of cryptocurrencies which are mostly vaporware and are bound to fail sometime in the future anyway.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: barabarian1 on December 02, 2019, 03:07:04 AM
yes of course the existence of cryptocurrency will increase investment options. the more types of investments that we participate in will give us many benefits. because we don't only rely on one type of investment. I myself have several types of investments the first I invested in crypto I have bitcoin and some altcoin. secondly I also buy gold and thirdly I also own property. of the three types of investment, of course, the bitcoin that provides the fastest profit. but I also know that bitcoin also has a high risk so I also invest in gold which has a lower risk.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: samcrypto on December 02, 2019, 03:16:38 AM
Cryptocurrency is a good investment as well so if you don't want to put all your investment in one basket then you can consider cryptocurrency. Wise investors always says that diversification is the best option to earn profit and of course to save your money from the black swan. You should also diversify your investment in cryptocurrency, a lot of good coins to be consider and earning profit is much higher if you have more coins in wallet.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: DreamStage on December 02, 2019, 04:42:10 AM
The simple quicker answer is YES, of course.
The complete one is: I can use a portfolio of multiple investment cryptocurrencies so that when price changes on specific alts i can switch to others and trade immediatly.

Taking changes of markets volatility and price fluctuation makes me a safer investor for not losing everything i invested for.
That's why you should divide your investment according with markets 24h cap and price value.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: avikz on December 03, 2019, 04:17:22 PM
Crypto investments are more or less akin to gambling right now but so are stocks. I am not sure what is the lesser evil though. Maybe stock up on precious metals?

That's true for any investment in this world! Be it a traditional stock or unregulated cryptos, both can be considered as gambling, especially for the day traders!

I personally believe cryptos can be a good choice for diversifying a traditional investment portfolio! In the regime of falling/negative interest rate, cryptos can really bring great value addition which can definitely help in fetching major ROI.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: stompix on December 04, 2019, 03:12:06 PM
That's why you should divide your investment according with markets 24h cap and price value.

One reason people should not take advice from forums and blogs
Trading based on market cap and volume in crypto is the bulletproof way to lose your money in a matter of days.

The simple quicker answer is YES, of course.
The complete one is: I can use a portfolio of multiple investment cryptocurrencies so that when price changes on specific alts i can switch to others and trade immediatly.

You don't understand what diversification means.
It means investing in stuff that is either unrelated so it won't take a hit, like cocoa futures and BMW shares or totally opposite so in case one of them fails the other one will probably rise in value.

What you're doing is basically spreading your money in 300 shitcoins which will all go down if bitcoins sneezes. Your diversification is not helping you stay with no worries even for a week, a coin going down is not being compensated by another going up and if something bad happens to the crypto scene they all go down!



Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: Eugenar on December 05, 2019, 12:13:16 PM
From the topic subject itself, actually being involved in cryptocurrency is already having a different portfolio and is readily diversible, meaning to say that yes it does really diversify your portfolio but introducing you to a whole new umbrella of investment cryptocurrency. So, if you are an investor,  is it quite hard to maintain all your investment if you have other than cryptocurrency. If you want to invest and have a good porfolio in cryptocurrency, then you must stay focused on it, always look at the market condition, and accumulate many promising cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: Eternad on December 05, 2019, 12:19:19 PM
When you plan in financial planning crypto is considered as alternative investment and it does add value in our investment as it compounded it's value depended on market conditions just like in stocks. It will depend on how much we put as investment in it and I believe it's a good investment too. It good to diversify our investment depending on our risk appetite so better have still some investment that may not increase a lot but still have a chance to secure our capital.


Title: Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio?
Post by: blckhawk on December 05, 2019, 03:12:54 PM
It does help, though the risks are higher, especially if what you're considering are those altcoins that are maybe irrelevamt or a whale could just crash it to death. Still, we have to acknowledge that cryptocurrencies provide another space for investment, although still it isn't meant to be a speculative asset, but rather has a main goal of having an alternative payment system.