Title: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: OasisDre on December 02, 2019, 06:59:54 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters?
+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Ailmand on December 02, 2019, 07:12:35 AM It actually depends on the arrangement between the bounty manager and the team. Some projects bounty are distributed by the manager and sometimes managers are only responsible on keeping track and submitting the spread sheet to the team for distribution.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: bitcampaign on December 02, 2019, 07:43:10 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? not really, indeed the work of the bounty manager is the selection of bounty participants and after that is paid if they submit their work, then the project team processes payments, if the project team does not pay means they are scam +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams if your idea is like that maybe many project teams feel disadvantaged, because the bounty manager might be able to run off their money, so the project team and bounty manager invite trusted people in the forum to become third-party escrow who hold project funds for bounty hunters+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Zeke_23 on December 02, 2019, 08:00:16 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? not really, indeed the work of the bounty manager is the selection of bounty participants and after that is paid if they submit their work, then the project team processes payments, if the project team does not pay means they are scamIt is correct that if the project do not pay it is already a scam, but I also think that if the bounty manager will hold the fund then chances for bounty hunters to get paid is high. +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams if your idea is like that maybe many project teams feel disadvantaged, because the bounty manager might be able to run off their money, so the project team and bounty manager invite trusted people in the forum to become third-party escrow who hold project funds for bounty hunters+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Escrow really take a big part in here, it is to avoid scam users to run the monry for their own. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Byakuga on December 02, 2019, 08:15:39 AM Your point makes sense but if the bounty manager himself or herself can't be trusted there will be issues as well, to me both bounty manager and project team can fail to pay hunters, so instead i suggest to always promote projects from reliable bounty managers
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: angrybirdy on December 02, 2019, 08:31:12 AM Your point makes sense but if the bounty manager himself or herself can't be trusted there will be issues as well, to me both bounty manager and project team can fail to pay hunters, so instead i suggest to always promote projects from reliable bounty managers But why would bounty hunters will participate in untrusted bounty managers in the first place. As for me, I don't want to have any unnecessary situations which makes my situation be hard.Paticipating in bounty campaigns handled by popular bounty managers is indeed way better than to participate in some unpopular managers. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: ajiz138 on December 02, 2019, 08:48:46 AM It all depends on the opportunity between the developer and the bounty manager. But in general the token is still in the hands of the developer and will be distributed by the developer when the bounty manager has submitted the file of participants who have done the task to completion. If the bounty manager is given the authority to hold tokens and distribute tokens, then there will be more costs to be paid to the manager.
But this method won't overcome the junk project, even though the token in the junk project distribution will produce shitcoin which cannot be sold. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: shodik007 on December 02, 2019, 08:51:37 AM rightfully so to avoid fraud from the project team, but in this case we also cannot 100% trust the bounty manager, you understand how much is allocated to a bounty and with that much money do you believe you will put it in the bounty manager? they can run away whenever they want, are you aware of this? it is true that there should be an intermediary for this so that bounty participants are no longer cheated
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: wajik-tempe on December 02, 2019, 09:06:41 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team I think it's almost imposibble for a single bounty manager do those task because most of bounty manager are holding more than one bounty and if they have to send out the payment after the bounty ends, it will really cut their time. It can be happen if the salary of the bounty manager is so big so the bounty managers are just holding one bounty at the time but i think the project team itself won't pay bounty manager so high. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Rodeo02 on December 02, 2019, 09:09:24 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? Even bounty manager have the allocated tokens there is no security that you will get paid.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Since more of the ICO project use token and many project also making a new token contract if they see that there are something wrong with the old contract then your payment will be worthless. Even you have the tokens for your payment if there are no exchange tradeable that token then this also a worthless tokens until its listed. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: danherbias07 on December 02, 2019, 09:11:36 AM + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends No, they won't let this happen. Managers will just manage. They will submit the spreadsheet of how much every participant will be paid accordingly. They wont give that tokens to the manager for security. They could just run with it and tell that it had all been submitted to each participant. If you are the owner of the ICO or IEO, will you trust the manager to keep his word? Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: bitcampaign on December 02, 2019, 09:38:31 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? not really, indeed the work of the bounty manager is the selection of bounty participants and after that is paid if they submit their work, then the project team processes payments, if the project team does not pay means they are scamIt is correct that if the project do not pay it is already a scam, but I also think that if the bounty manager will hold the fund then chances for bounty hunters to get paid is high. +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams if your idea is like that maybe many project teams feel disadvantaged, because the bounty manager might be able to run off their money, so the project team and bounty manager invite trusted people in the forum to become third-party escrow who hold project funds for bounty hunters+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Escrow really take a big part in here, it is to avoid scam users to run the monry for their own. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: anjiitem on December 02, 2019, 10:00:28 AM + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends No, they won't let this happen. Managers will just manage. They will submit the spreadsheet of how much every participant will be paid accordingly. They wont give that tokens to the manager for security. They could just run with it and tell that it had all been submitted to each participant. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: p3ppymon on December 02, 2019, 11:08:19 AM I used to participate in many different bounty campaigns a few years ago with a few decent payouts. Nevertheless, only one in 20 was a good payout while the others revealed unsatisfactory (too much time - little reward).
These days, it seems that the rate has further declined and I am not sure bounty hunters are still able to make a decent profit / hour. Managers just do their job. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: ecnalubma on December 02, 2019, 11:29:54 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? These are the disadvantages when the bounty rewards are not esrowed. Bounty hunters should know the terms of the campaign eg duration, allocation and the time distribution, however some campaigns don’t keep their promises due to unexpected events.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: mrdeposit on December 02, 2019, 11:34:09 AM In the past, the bounty managers themselves were personally involved in the distribution, and there were even projects that saw them as a member of the team. But now it is almost impossible to face such situations. Managers' work is limited to hunters' compliance with rules and the correct division of weekly stakes. Like us, they also expect when the reward will be given. Therefore, managers are not always guilty if the reward is not given on time or not at all.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: DDante on December 02, 2019, 11:36:10 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? not really, indeed the work of the bounty manager is the selection of bounty participants and after that is paid if they submit their work, then the project team processes payments, if the project team does not pay means they are scam +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams if your idea is like that maybe many project teams feel disadvantaged, because the bounty manager might be able to run off their money, so the project team and bounty manager invite trusted people in the forum to become third-party escrow who hold project funds for bounty hunters+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: jossiel on December 02, 2019, 11:39:34 AM There are bounty managers that are ensuring the payment for their participants because it's part of their responsibility to choose the legit and reliable bounty that they will manage. If the management of that project doesn't agree with his given term, it's up on him on how he will handle the rule.
They can follow up the distribution until it's all solved to give assurance for their participants which is part of their job. But if not, their part is limited and that's why you have to be picky in choosing although many of the bounties are not that good anymore. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: TheClownSong on December 02, 2019, 12:32:02 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? not really, indeed the work of the bounty manager is the selection of bounty participants and after that is paid if they submit their work, then the project team processes payments, if the project team does not pay means they are scam +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams if your idea is like that maybe many project teams feel disadvantaged, because the bounty manager might be able to run off their money, so the project team and bounty manager invite trusted people in the forum to become third-party escrow who hold project funds for bounty hunters+ Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends A good project will definitely choose a bounty manager who already has a good reputation in this forum and is well known in the cryptocurrency community. From what I understand, the bounty manager has the authority to manage the campaign, but for payment matters, it still depends on the developer team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: DaMut on December 02, 2019, 12:39:00 PM If projects team are thinking that the bounty manager might run off with the bounty tokens then they should start using well known professional bounty managers A good project will definitely choose a bounty manager who already has a good reputation in this forum and is well known in the cryptocurrency community. From what I understand, the bounty manager has the authority to manage the campaign, but for payment matters, it still depends on the developer team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: fuer44 on December 02, 2019, 01:14:13 PM in my opinion between the bounty hunters and gift managers are almost the same, they are just workers. and who has full control over the bounty and the token remains the team. tokens will be distributed or not, will be valuable or not, it depends on the team not the manager. so when there is a scam or a very low price, it's not the manager's fault but his team.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: oktana on December 02, 2019, 01:33:53 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? Managers must have an important role and carry out all the tasks associated with campaign forums, and also distribution.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team if the developer doesn't believe there is still an escrow from DT. there must be some kind of initial insurance of a few percent in the form of btc or usd to guarantee the project is not negative or let the project fail only on circumstances and make participants disappointed. If it's not like this, many projects with poor quality will always move. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: soramon on December 02, 2019, 01:40:29 PM Well i think bounty manager already make a deal with the team. Bounty manager only manage campaign but the rules will create by the team. Usually the rules can be change by team and thats the sad part. Bounty manager doing his job for the best
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: dimonstration on December 02, 2019, 01:46:13 PM Well i think bounty manager already make a deal with the team. Bounty manager only manage campaign but the rules will create by the team. Usually the rules can be change by team and thats the sad part. Bounty manager doing his job for the best Only few developers approves to escrow bounty funds since some funds were only available after the ICO succeed. All we can do is assess whether the project have what it takes to b succeed and get investors to assure the payment but if not then probably we're wasting our time even the bounty manager is good but the project itself is not.Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: DoublerHunter on December 02, 2019, 01:54:42 PM We have nothing to do by that because there are also some projects that being escrowed already the fancy token but it also ends up nothing when it is not listing to exchange. The distributions were there but dont have value in the market. It seems useless if they are all like this. The only solution is they will pay through dollars not just by their fancy tokens. Or they will pay Ethereum as their fund collected. All projects that I joined last year, they are nonsense and no value.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: stephanirain on December 02, 2019, 01:59:34 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team The managers could also have the same thing of holding or take the token for himself instead of distributing it to the hunters as it is his job. We couldn't judge them of course, especially if they are in this industry longer than anyone else. I guess, it will all depends on the setup of the manager and the team of devs and they must agree with the terms and trust that both will keep their end of the bargain. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Palider on December 02, 2019, 02:06:55 PM +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: NewRanger on December 02, 2019, 02:11:33 PM Well i think bounty manager already make a deal with the team. Bounty manager only manage campaign but the rules will create by the team. Usually the rules can be change by team and thats the sad part. Bounty manager doing his job for the best Only few developers approves to escrow bounty funds since some funds were only available after the ICO succeed. All we can do is assess whether the project have what it takes to b succeed and get investors to assure the payment but if not then probably we're wasting our time even the bounty manager is good but the project itself is not.Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: hulla on December 02, 2019, 02:25:40 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? You're absolutely right because a situation where the project team later run away with the bounty token does happen and we also have situations where the team discard the rules providing during their campaign. But, bounty manager to hold the bounty payment usually happen on the bounty host site and before it could really on the forum I believe forum police and bounty managers have to make such rules and regulations.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: agentx44 on December 02, 2019, 02:30:26 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? ICO's were complete mess ever since it started though it had a good run way back. Some bounty manager has become too greedy that they invalidated the bounty hunters effort to meet the requirements needed to recieve huge rewards. It usually takes up too long before ending because the marketcap is needed to be met or atleast near it. Whenever a bounty manager fails to pay back the bounty hunters, too much of their time gets wasted that's why I think it is way more better to join IEO's than ICO's today.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: posi on December 02, 2019, 02:30:47 PM I support the OP suggestion but it will be hard for manager to be fund account holder as bounty is concern because 95% of the bounty managers have what it takes to be manager, to be trusted with bounty fund which sometimes worth $ Million and the last time I checked most. bounty manager are always after their cut while the project owners won't want to pay for escrow services.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Greatchu on December 02, 2019, 02:48:52 PM The problem is bounty managers can cheat and project teams can cheat as well, Nestree teams was handed the spreadsheet after bounty ends but they never send my token yet few bounty hunters claim they got their, its vice versa
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Golftech on December 02, 2019, 03:32:51 PM We have nothing to do by that because there are also some projects that being escrowed already the fancy token but it also ends up nothing when it is not listing to exchange. The distributions were there but dont have value in the market. It seems useless if they are all like this. The only solution is they will pay through dollars not just by their fancy tokens. Or they will pay Ethereum as their fund collected. All projects that I joined last year, they are nonsense and no value. Yeah right, even the tokens has been distributed but if the team behind didn't bothered to list the coin to any exchange there's nothing left for the bounty participants. The situations nowadays is really getting tougher, there's no other options but to continue trying your best looking fro the right team and projectto support and participate hoping for the best outcomes.. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: FireBallex on December 02, 2019, 03:33:21 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? Some bounty managers can't be trusted that is why project teams don't want to send all tokens for bounty manager to hold and distribute, we all know how much a bounty pool always worth, thousands of dollars to millions +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Landak on December 02, 2019, 03:33:42 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? if I remember correctly before 2018, the distribution was carried out by the manager and the project team never used their team as a manager in the bounty program but everything changed after the number of managers' performance that was not correct and often cheating then therefore now the project teams had do not entrust the distribution carried out by managers outside the team.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team there are good and bad things, good at reducing cheating by incompetent managers, the bad thing is, often not paid and is not responsible because they are directly handled by the project itself. The last bounty manager I participated in and really believed was at the bountyhive portal, because I think everything was handled by the bountyhive team, everything was paid even though not all of them (the project) were successful but still paid. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: makolz26 on December 02, 2019, 03:45:28 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? Some bounty managers can't be trusted that is why project teams don't want to send all tokens for bounty manager to hold and distribute, we all know how much a bounty pool always worth, thousands of dollars to millions +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team There's really very few bounty managers that could be trusted, everyone here in our forum really wanted to earn a lot, but for some they are doing something that will make them rich in just a blink of an eye, since they are the manager, they are taking this for granted as they know that they are the ones controlling on it. But still I believe that there's a lot of managers out there that can still be trusted. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Thomas-s on December 02, 2019, 04:38:09 PM I think that the ideal way to distribute rewards is when the project team sends tokens to the guarant before the start of the bounty campaign and the guarant is not the bounty manager, but just an independent person. After the work is done, the bounty managers send the spreadsheet to the team and the team instructs the guarant to begin distributing the reward
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: White Christmas on December 02, 2019, 04:43:58 PM Actually it depends on the situation on what would be the agreement of the bounty manager and the project team. If the project team or the project developer that the bounty manager is the one who will just manage the bounty hunters on checking if the bounty hunters that he/she allowed to joined on the bounty campaign are doing good or the bounty hunters are just keep messing around the project, or the bounty manager will be the one who will give the payment, stakes, tokens to the bounty hunters who are participating to the bounty campaign. In my years here in crypto I experience a lot of that who are the bounty managers are just the person who checks the operation of the bounty project.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: o.ogurlu on December 02, 2019, 04:50:29 PM The task of the bounty manager is to successfully run the bounty campaign. Token delivery depends on the agreement with the manager and the team of the project. But in general, the tokens are probably distributed by the team.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: robelneo on December 02, 2019, 04:59:00 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team There are a lot of projects that their bounty managers are part of the project, so the team will be the one to decide about the distribution, and when it comes to an independent manager, it depends on the arrangement, but it's better if the bounty manager has a good reputation and the arrangement is he is the one to hold the tokens that he will be distributing, it's fairer to bounty hunters because they are sure to receive the bounty. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: valuater on December 02, 2019, 05:15:35 PM I think it's a bit true that it causes bounty hunters not to receive their rewards, but in the past I often saw several bounty managers escort rewards for bounty participants and the surprise happened because bounty manager corrupted by manipulating spreadsheets as if it were a participant's account even though it was is a fake account created by them and from there they took a lot of profit and the great thing was that it was an altseason so I think they got hundreds of thousands of dollars easily, and because of this I think we go back to old tradition of waiting for the team of project to share rewards but I think if we choose the right project we will still get paid.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: ned.ryerson on December 02, 2019, 05:16:24 PM the most important thing is that the bounty manager also receives a reward in the tokens of his project. in this case, he will also be interested in the project living and developing
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: asus09 on December 02, 2019, 05:20:31 PM I think it's a bit true that it causes bounty hunters not to receive their rewards, but in the past I often saw several bounty managers escort rewards for bounty participants and the surprise happened because bounty manager corrupted by manipulating spreadsheets as if it were a participant's account even though it was is a fake account created by them and from there they took a lot of profit and the great thing was that it was an altseason so I think they got hundreds of thousands of dollars easily, and because of this I think we go back to old tradition of waiting for the team of project to share rewards but I think if we choose the right project we will still get paid. Many bounty campaign manager can't believe with their project after ICO success and have distributed reward for bounty campaign participants, I found one bounty campaign manager always delay distributing bounty reward more than three months after bounty campaign ended, from finishing spreadsheet take more than one month until distributed coin always delay.Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: johnwest on December 02, 2019, 05:23:59 PM Its not that simple as you feel, there are allot of factors which play in between a team and a bounty manager. An escrow might help interfacing everything with a neutral perspective but these practices will need more investment which the companies wont like to pay. There are some very good managers like Yahoo who are transparent and answer most of the queries.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: kodtycoon on December 02, 2019, 05:31:46 PM correct, most of the bounty managers only do a calculation and monitor the participants, but most of the events that exist are to always use escrow but many projects do not agree with these rules so they will only hire bounty managers who have no reputation in the forum. so to anticipate being hit by a scam project is about seeing who the manager is and whether the funds or prizes have been saved in escrow or not, so at least the bounty participants will be comfortable and no longer need to bother researching every existing project
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: enhu on December 02, 2019, 05:38:01 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team It was already done in the past but the project turned out to be a scam, while the tokens are worthless after it. I wasn't even added to the exchange so the cycle of all these scams are still going on up to this day. Bounty hunters will start to trust when there is someone who will serve as escrow but then tokens are still going to be worthless when its not on the exchange. This is why its best for them to just pay BTC or ETH. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: landoffaucets on December 02, 2019, 05:38:50 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? Yes, but also reputable bounty manager is not a warranty that you will receive your tokens.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Also in last days I do not see problem that tokens are not paid to bounty hunters, but the problem is that the tokens do not have value. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Pearls Before Swine on December 02, 2019, 05:43:11 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? I don't know exactly what you meant by that, but I'm pretty sure that's what they do. What the projects *don't* do is, one, pay in bitcoin or Eth and two, put funds into escrow before the bounty starts. I think that's why so many bounty hunters get scammed. If they didn't pay in tokens, the project owners would be able to escrow funds and thus ensure that the hunters got paid and there wouldn't be reason to worry. As it stands, the bounty hunters do all of this work on spec, all up front, and then they hope they get paid in the end. That's one of the big issues. These bounties aren't run like typical signature campaigns that you see in the services section. I don't think I've ever seen any of those scam their participants at the end of the campaign. They usually get paid weekly as well. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: duuuuude on December 02, 2019, 05:49:28 PM Your point makes sense but if the bounty manager himself or herself can't be trusted there will be issues as well, to me both bounty manager and project team can fail to pay hunters, so instead i suggest to always promote projects from reliable bounty managers No matter how reliable the managers are now, they will not be able to change the situation on the market. In general a manager is only a hired employee who does his job and only counting and distributing tokens depends on him. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: seleme on December 02, 2019, 05:52:07 PM The arrangement between the bounty managers and the team is the point here, they never want to use the escrow for holding the campaign budget. If there was an escrow, the delaying bounty distributions shouldn't happen in the first place. The changing variables are more in the bounty campaign allocations which can be reduced or increased depending on the market conditions.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Hamphser on December 02, 2019, 05:55:25 PM Your point makes sense but if the bounty manager himself or herself can't be trusted there will be issues as well, to me both bounty manager and project team can fail to pay hunters, so instead i suggest to always promote projects from reliable bounty managers No matter how reliable the managers are now, they will not be able to change the situation on the market. In general a manager is only a hired employee who does his job and only counting and distributing tokens depends on him. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: biddicoin on December 02, 2019, 06:17:37 PM So, How if the bounty managers turn to scam the dev and bounty hunter?
if bounty managers hold the tokens, it would be risky for stakeholder (dev, investor, bounty hunters) That's why bounty managers dont hold the tokens. isnt it logic? The big problem why bounty hunter doesnt get paid is about 'dev scamming' and 'dont get good investment' Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: vanya.pronin.1983 on December 02, 2019, 06:19:32 PM Generally speaking you are right, but I have met enough bounty managers that just scammed hunters after the end. Furthermore, not all bounty projects are managed by famous managers on this forum, a lot of bounties are held by their teams.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: tenakha on December 02, 2019, 09:47:58 PM Yes, but also reputable bounty manager is not a warranty that you will receive your tokens. I do not think so. Reputable BMs are not stupid enough to sell the trust they have collected over the years for a few bucks. In addition, they always know how to do their jobs well and not trust anyone. Therefore, they request that the sufficient amount be kept in escrow.Generally speaking you are right, but I have met enough bounty managers that just scammed hunters after the end. Furthermore, not all bounty projects are managed by famous managers on this forum, a lot of bounties are held by their teams. It is possible to face all kinds of BM in this forum, even one of the project developers can manage the bounty. It is good to stay with the reliable ones, they essentially work with good projects and they are safe enough.Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: cytpoway121 on December 02, 2019, 10:10:45 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team For me I think it doesn’t really matter Any project that will pay will do so either with an escrow or not Sending rewards to escrow or bounty manager is not the way out Because the token could be swapped after or before sales The best way is to follow the right project and the right pattern of payment after work happens naturally Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Finestream on December 02, 2019, 11:24:54 PM + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends I am alright with this suggestion as long as the bounty manager who holds is reputable or we can hire the service of a reputable escrow here. But, with only few number of bounty managers that pass in my definition of reputable, I doubt the team would allow that to happen, because if bounty manager will scam, it would still affect their reputation badly, and remember that the total reward is a big amount ranging from $100K to $1M value in tokens or coins. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: htsy585 on December 02, 2019, 11:27:36 PM It actually depends on the arrangement between the bounty manager and the team. Some projects bounty are distributed by the manager and sometimes managers are only responsible on keeping track and submitting the spread sheet to the team for distribution. I still think its wrong. Whatever the arrangement is with the Project team. It only shows that the bounty manager is incapable and lacks eptitutde. Bounty0x has exhibited such ugly attitudes in the past and hunters hate them for it. Actually, they suffer distrust and credibility issues at the moment because hunters have lost confidence in them Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Maslate on December 03, 2019, 12:00:09 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team For me I think it doesn’t really matter Any project that will pay will do so either with an escrow or not Sending rewards to escrow or bounty manager is not the way out Because the token could be swapped after or before sales The best way is to follow the right project and the right pattern of payment after work happens naturally Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: owengtam09 on December 03, 2019, 04:35:13 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? I think it still depends on their arrangement and agreement of each other. Some bounty ends up unsuccessful so it ends up nothing but sometimes ends up successful too so it depends unless that newly open bounty campaign might have a previous campaign and reopen to make another project and profits as well maybe that is the time that a Manager of that bounty can hold the payments. +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Callanta787 on December 03, 2019, 04:57:19 AM 1. Bounty managers can run away with the total tokens
2. They can't be both trusted this is part of the risks bounty hunter must consider 3. New projects should seek out for highly rated bounty managers on this forum, they will have to come to an agreement or just avoid the headache and start following good bounty managers Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: LouVandetta on December 03, 2019, 05:07:09 AM + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends This one might be too risky. Because who knows if the bounty managers has any hidden agenda behind it. What if they took off with the participants' payment?Sure, they could give the managers in charge to manage the distribution, only if that managers has a solid, and good reputation through and through. They cannot just easily give access to bounty managers about such thing. Whether you get paid or not is another story. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: romero121 on December 03, 2019, 05:07:47 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? What's been mentioned is a must, but when the project team itself fails to pay the bounty managers then how come the participants will receive the bounties. There are lot of bounty managers who take responsibility of bounty transfer, but when the team fails nothing will be distributed. Here the project team moves on looking for the development of some other project. The bounty managers are the one who gets negative trust and bad reputation.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team For this reason most of the bounty managers just serve as a moderator who looks after the campaign as well as submits regular reports to the project team. Rest will be between the participants and project team. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: TanakabZX on December 03, 2019, 05:09:14 AM Its left for the teams to decide if they are going to let the bounty manager distribute the tokens or not, sometimes new project find it hard to trust bounty managers that is why they do the distribution themselves
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Pamadar on December 03, 2019, 05:17:01 AM + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends This one might be too risky. Because who knows if the bounty managers has any hidden agenda behind it. What if they took off with the participants' payment?Sure, they could give the managers in charge to manage the distribution, only if that managers has a solid, and good reputation through and through. They cannot just easily give access to bounty managers about such thing. Whether you get paid or not is another story. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Kambal2000 on December 03, 2019, 05:18:46 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? I think it still depends on their arrangement and agreement of each other. Some bounty ends up unsuccessful so it ends up nothing but sometimes ends up successful too so it depends unless that newly open bounty campaign might have a previous campaign and reopen to make another project and profits as well maybe that is the time that a Manager of that bounty can hold the payments. +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team There were times when the bounty manager itself are the ones taking the tokens so it would be really hard for the team to trust them too, also bounty manager can easily get those tokens and can manipulate the sheet, so the team needs to handle the tokens, I won't agree that the manager will handle it, but still depends if the bounty manager is trusted like Yahoo then why not. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Natalim on December 03, 2019, 05:27:08 AM + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends This one might be too risky. Because who knows if the bounty managers has any hidden agenda behind it. What if they took off with the participants' payment?Sure, they could give the managers in charge to manage the distribution, only if that managers has a solid, and good reputation through and through. They cannot just easily give access to bounty managers about such thing. Whether you get paid or not is another story. I don't know how the team will manage to make sure the funds are secured and they their reputation are not accepted if the manager choose to steal the money. The normal trend in the market is that the team always holds the tokens and then they will just send it after the bounty program is over, however, if its possible to do it in a weekly basis, I think that would be a wise solution. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Aaroenz0r on December 03, 2019, 05:41:34 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? In fact, most of the bounty managers don't take all their money to run away, there are very few cases like that. But the more unfortunate case is that I see more and more bounty managers getting scammed every day. they are like us, working for others and when that project goes wrong or is fraud, they will have 0 salary. I also did a small bounty campaign and unfortunately it was a scam project and I didn't have any money for 2 months serving them. so don't blame the bounty managers, they're victims as well as us.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: maxreish on December 03, 2019, 06:04:09 AM I think you misunderstood the job and the responsible of the bounty manager.
Bounty manager actually manages the whole campaign or the project itself. Selections of bounty hunters who will gonna promote the project, distribution of token rewards that the CEO gave to the manager. The payment of the project always depends on the owner. They are just giving the trust to the manager. Well, that was my experience before as a bounty hunter. Always select the best bounty manager to give you the benefit of the doubt. Some may forward the bounty hunters to the team itself after the promotions for the rewards but some may not and let the manager do it as well. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: starblocks on December 03, 2019, 06:09:37 AM What you're referring to is escrow of the bounty rewards and this isn't common practice amongst most bounty campaigns although it should be and you could request it up front when applying for a campaign if you had any concerns as this is one of the major issues bounty hunters face
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Asuspawer09 on December 03, 2019, 06:11:01 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? Sometimes the bounty managers to a good job handling the bounty campaign but end up as the owner itself do not pay the bounty managers and the bounty hunters,+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team The owner itself is the one who will be going to pay the bounty hunters the managers will just be sent the list of the eligible bounty hunters that will received the reward, But still depends on the agreement of the bounty manager and the owner of the campaign itself. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: BigBos on December 03, 2019, 06:33:29 AM yeah, i also think that way. it would be better if the manager also helped in the distribution and more about the bounty. but, it's like escrow, and after all, I think the team still controls it. it's the same as a bountyhive site, or other bounty sites. they are trying to become an escrow for the part of the bounty project that they handle, but until now it seems that this has not been realized evenly on each bounty project.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Kotone on December 03, 2019, 06:53:24 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team The problem here is that some manager dont often concern on the participants. Yes the project is indeed legit but somehow you can't force them to spend the tokens they promise right away to those who joined their campaign especially if the price of the token could somehow depleted in the future. I am so disappointed with these kind of projects which after some works rendered by hunters it seems they utmost concern is the liquidity alone of the project. How about the efforts those who help them reached their stance? Manager should be helpful to them. Funny cause they are paid but its okay their reputation is on the line. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: EdvinZ on December 03, 2019, 06:56:43 AM I really liked the idea of having tokens for subsequent rewards at the disposal of well-known bounty managers on the forum. So the guarantee on the payouts are increased several times. Nobody of the local bounty manager would not risk his reputation and not to pay tokens. And now the distribution of tokens after the bounty is managed by people from the project team, who do not care about their reputation, so there are so many non-payments and cuts in payments.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: tianglistrik on December 03, 2019, 07:17:35 AM I really liked the idea of having tokens for subsequent rewards at the disposal of well-known bounty managers on the forum. So the guarantee on the payouts are increased several times. Nobody of the local bounty manager would not risk his reputation and not to pay tokens. And now the distribution of tokens after the bounty is managed by people from the project team, who do not care about their reputation, so there are so many non-payments and cuts in payments. unfortunately the campaign manager only does their job by collecting data, and distribution matters are returned to the project team people who have access to the tokens. if only the manager could hold the payment fund for the participant, maybe the project would be pureTitle: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: aioc on December 03, 2019, 07:20:47 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? If the bounty manager is trustworthy I want him to hold the tokens and he will be the one to distribute to bounty hunters, but sometimes, these projects are the one who manages the campaign, we just have to check if the project is legit, a legit project will not let jeopardize their campaign by not distributing bounties of their participants, it will ruin their reputation.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: OasisDre on December 03, 2019, 07:52:52 AM Its better to always follow popular bounty managers then if you think its a bad idea for bounty managers to hold tokens but few bounty managers can be trusted, we know them because of their sincerity
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: leea-1334 on December 03, 2019, 10:44:58 AM 1. If bounty managers run then they cannot take a second job,,, so they have to open a new accounts with new identities, which will not even be looked at by campaigns.
2. The risk is always there on all ends but this is why the reputations of both managers and projects should be considered by bounty hunters. 3. New projects should do things themselves for full transparency I believe, or spend a lot on good managers. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: HabiebRiziq on December 03, 2019, 03:21:50 PM +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: biddicoin on December 03, 2019, 03:36:18 PM I think you misunderstood the job and the responsible of the bounty manager. Most of tokens rewads is distributed by the owner, not bounty managersBounty manager actually manages the whole campaign or the project itself. Selections of bounty hunters who will gonna promote the project, distribution of token rewards that the CEO gave to the manager. The payment of the project always depends on the owner. They are just giving the trust to the manager. Well, that was my experience before as a bounty hunter. Always select the best bounty manager to give you the benefit of the doubt. Some may forward the bounty hunters to the team itself after the promotions for the rewards but some may not and let the manager do it as well. Like yobit, the rewards is distributed by yobit, Not Yahoo as bounty managers You miss the main concern the OP post about why the bounty isnt paid. you dont talk about that Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: red4slash on December 03, 2019, 03:48:26 PM I think you misunderstood the job and the responsible of the bounty manager. Most of tokens rewads is distributed by the owner, not bounty managersBounty manager actually manages the whole campaign or the project itself. Selections of bounty hunters who will gonna promote the project, distribution of token rewards that the CEO gave to the manager. The payment of the project always depends on the owner. They are just giving the trust to the manager. Well, that was my experience before as a bounty hunter. Always select the best bounty manager to give you the benefit of the doubt. Some may forward the bounty hunters to the team itself after the promotions for the rewards but some may not and let the manager do it as well. Like yobit, the rewards is distributed by yobit, Not Yahoo as bounty managers You miss the main concern the OP post about why the bounty isnt paid. you dont talk about that Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: yangongear on December 03, 2019, 04:08:17 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? Well, It is all your decision. There are many bounties out there that use escrow, like the bounties of yahoo62278. But it is a very small number. Most bounties have terms and conditions as the project team makes the final decision, and when you participate you have to agree with it. So you can not ask for the above.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: ProteinBar on December 03, 2019, 04:15:00 PM There are many projects that don't pay bounty hunters. They should not submit to distribution projects because if doing so the risk of bad kites will increase.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: sapnu on December 03, 2019, 04:42:29 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? Well, It is all your decision. There are many bounties out there that use escrow, like the bounties of yahoo62278. But it is a very small number. Most bounties have terms and conditions as the project team makes the final decision, and when you participate you have to agree with it. So you can not ask for the above.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: bitvalak on December 03, 2019, 05:44:09 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? Are you sure that the bounty manager you are referring to can be trusted completely? It could be that they play without the knowledge of the project team. +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team It is common knowledge that there are some bounty managers who have a monopoly, but there are also some who have a good reputation and integrity. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: mobilestrike on December 03, 2019, 05:55:31 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? In the current time it is the major issue with many projects. In this case I will request the authorities to make a rule that the projects have to escrow the funds with manager from the start of the bounty campaign. Many projects ends with failure and the bounty hunters get nothing for their work in this case it is also important that the developers have to escrow some funds in BTC or other valuable coin so that if their coin fail then bounty hunters get paid in cash for their hard work.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: NoirSuccubus on December 03, 2019, 06:11:43 PM It depends from a project to another project. I have worked with some bounty hunting in which manager was responsible for giving and distributing the bounty while there are those in which manager just has to keep record and track of the spread sheet for the team.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: gundala on December 03, 2019, 11:25:43 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? Come on, friend, you can't force personal will to be like that. The division of tasks and work and rules have become the authority of the bounty manager and the development team. Usually a professional bounty manager with a good reputation will explain how the reward distribution process will be, whether handled by the developer team directly, or through the bounty manager, or through an escrow service as proof that they will really pay. So you should understand that well and look for information clearly so that it is not easy to draw conclusions and think bad.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: setialovers on December 04, 2019, 01:04:14 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team From what I know, the bounty manager has no right to pay hunters but only runs a bounty campaign. The Bounty manager cannot function as IEO does because the bounty manager does not hold a payment escrow Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: poodle63 on December 04, 2019, 01:51:40 AM It depends from a project to another project. I have worked with some bounty hunting in which manager was responsible for giving and distributing the bounty while there are those in which manager just has to keep record and track of the spread sheet for the team. Your are so lucky person dude. I have worked with several managers and they were getting the crap project. As far as i know even some trusted ico didn't pay the bounty hunters with the correct amount that already agreed when the campaign has started. Manager is responsible to calculate and manage the campaignTitle: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: fortunecrypto on December 04, 2019, 02:54:01 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team If it's possible the bounty manager should be the one to hold if the manager is a freelancer, he can protect the integrity of the distribution because his reputation is at stake here, if he fails to deliver the bounty in a fair manner. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: DabsPoorVersion on December 04, 2019, 03:01:54 AM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team From what I know, the bounty manager has no right to pay hunters but only runs a bounty campaign. The Bounty manager cannot function as IEO does because the bounty manager does not hold a payment escrow Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: xOdiumNostrumx on December 04, 2019, 09:36:16 AM Pre-paid campaigns should really become a new standard of bounty hunting. Escrow + reputable bounty managers, the ones that would have a lower risk of fleeing with the funds. It would be doable but status quo is just so much simpler and easier so I doubt it will change any time soon.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: swivel1983@gmail.com on December 04, 2019, 04:32:16 PM It happens that the bounty manager is in agreement with the project team and together they deceive the bounty hunters. But to be honest, it all depends on the conditions under which the bounty manager works. Sometimes he is not responsible for counting tokens and therefore is not responsible for the fact that you are not paid for the work.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Gotumoot on December 04, 2019, 05:00:04 PM The bounty managers should actually hold the funds to give to bounty hunters when the campaign is over.
This is also mentioned in another theread, which should also be half of the bounty rewards based on ethereum or bitcoin so that the bounty hunter's time, sacrifice and effort are worth it. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Greatchu on December 04, 2019, 05:01:15 PM Its good to follow top bounty managers on this forum to avoid not getting paid but sometimes newbie accounts will introduce better bounties, its all about risks you know
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: gabbie2010 on December 04, 2019, 05:15:38 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? Well, It is all your decision. There are many bounties out there that use escrow, like the bounties of yahoo62278. But it is a very small number. Most bounties have terms and conditions as the project team makes the final decision, and when you participate you have to agree with it. So you can not ask for the above.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team its sad to hear touching stories of bounty hunters not being paid after many days and months of promoting a project this is some of the risk involved in bounty campaigns. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: xiboothrezi on December 04, 2019, 09:50:12 PM My preferred bounty hunting campaign is the ones which is escrowed and held by a reputable member of this forum, a hunter will be on a safer side ie the possibility of cheating a hunter if the fund is held by the manager is zero, the decision must be made by the hunter thus by doing so is at the hunter's risk, Very good consideration. That can minimize the recent drama that often happens where bounty hunters often become victims, it could be because of the allocation that was cut, the delay in distribution, tokens or coins locked, etc. Before joining a bounty, we must also prepare mentally to face such a bitter reality.its sad to hear touching stories of bounty hunters not being paid after many days and months of promoting a project this is some of the risk involved in bounty campaigns. I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? Your bad experience with this type of payment cannot be generalized. I participated in many bounty projects whose distribution was handled by the developer but still gave the bounty manager the full right even though there were a few dramas, yes we know that the market situation was not good, so it could be tolerated.~ But never mind, that way you understand that it is one form of risk in joining bounties, right? My advice, do not make conclusions like that, it really depends on each project, can not be generalized, next time choose a project with more depth, choose a reliable BM, and prepare mentally stronger. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: dirgayeah on December 04, 2019, 11:09:13 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? +The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team first of all, you must to know that every deal with some project has a different condition. in some projects, maybe BM can make a deal with the team for doing ESCROW (Bounty Payment) to the third party to avoid scam in the future. but sometimes, the team don't want to do an escrow and want to handle their payment with their own. at least, the main duty of Bounty manager is managing and controlling bounty participants and make sure they do their task in every campaign. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: tiptopgemdotcom on December 04, 2019, 11:48:14 PM The dirty bounty campaigns don't pay the bounty hunters with blaming the market conditions but the market condition is the excuse for filtering the bounty hunters. I doubt the bull market will show the good sides of the bounty campaigns, the situation will be stable for a long time. I also prefer to join the reliable bounty campaigns because of the payment issues at the end of the campaigns or after the token sale.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: zhengqi on December 04, 2019, 11:58:10 PM It is possible that the bounty Manager will be in cahoots with the project team. Such cases have already been. Don't worry about it. Because our complaints will not lead to anything good. We should stop complaining.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: bittick on December 05, 2019, 01:44:05 AM The bounty managers should actually hold the funds to give to bounty hunters when the campaign is over. The problem is when you can't dictate the developer. Okay, let's say you will create an agreement between the manager and the develoepers but the developers are so greedy and they don't wannt to send the money even to the trusted manager. So many developers are doing it right now. This is also mentioned in another theread, which should also be half of the bounty rewards based on ethereum or bitcoin so that the bounty hunter's time, sacrifice and effort are worth it. Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: best123 on December 05, 2019, 02:10:17 PM The above highlighted issue facing bounty hunters, managers and team have made many hunters to have issues with the manager(s). I can remember PMing a manager asking when we will be paid and said "it's not him that will pay rather the team". Till date we were not paid.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: GideonGono on December 05, 2019, 04:20:29 PM In a time where a lot of bounties turned out to be a scam sometimes you don’t which to believe and join. As you don’t really know much about how reliable are the people behind these projects then you will resort to the bounty manager hired by the team of the project. Reputable members would surely be a good impression since there are bounty mangers who are quiet strict on what bounties to manage by going through extreme measures to ensure that it would not be waste of his time and his bounty participants.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: miklesm on December 05, 2019, 05:55:18 PM In my opinion, if the team of a crypto project let's the Bounty Manager to organize their Bounty campaign, they need to use him as an escrow and to send him tokens before the start of the campaign.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: rudin123 on December 07, 2019, 06:59:27 AM Managers should indeed hold bounty hunters' tokens and distribute them, but now there are rarely such projects that want to send them first to the manager. I see all the prizes that I participated in by the project team themselves who sent the bounty tokens, and the manager only counted the work of the bount hunter.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: Genemind on December 07, 2019, 11:15:53 AM It depends on how they're going to do the payment and distribution. We can't put all the blame to bounty managers because in some cases, even managers end up being unpaid. The entire team including the developers plays a vital role in the distribution of payments. It's just necessary that we have to look for trusted bounty managers and legit projects so we'll have an assurance of being paid accordingly.
Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: shoreno on December 07, 2019, 02:22:59 PM Managers should indeed hold bounty hunters' tokens and distribute them, but now there are rarely such projects that want to send them first to the manager. I see all the prizes that I participated in by the project team themselves who sent the bounty tokens, and the manager only counted the work of the bount hunter. that is the sad truth on bounty . we rarely see a manager hold the funds ( or escrow atleast ) but the owner wants the project to finish first before he lend out the payments . many hunters still agree with this kind of rule though even if its risky and the chances of thier work to be wasted is high because they are the ones that needed the job anyways so why will they be against with the rules' ? unless if they are picky then they will just ignore these kind of bounties Title: Re: Just a thought about bounties and bounty managers Post by: tukagero on December 07, 2019, 03:12:05 PM I heard that what most bounty managers do is to conduct the bounty project and later submit to projects teams for distribution, is this not why some projects never paid bounty hunters? if the manager is trusted im not afraid if he hold the tokens for the bounty, but if the manager is newbie and not trusted i will not allow him to hold the bounty tokens, cause there are already cases where the manager run away together with the bounty tokens after the campaign.+The job of a bounty manager should be the guide standing between bounty hunters and project teams + Bounty managers should be the ones to hold on to the project tokens and distribute after bounty ends Avoid these and teams might decide not to pay or send out half payments to half of the hunters, it should be more like how IEO is where exchange stands between investors and team |