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In red market its always a good idea to dump once you get the chance because many new projects are just failing even IEO projects dump after few weeks to month of trading but its still better to keep few coins because of tomorrow, no one knows what will happen for sure, but presently take out your profits as soon as you can, if this continues no new project will be spared and its thing that developers needs to start implementing something that will keep a coin or token at a good price, we are in dump season

IEO and ICO doesn't have that much difference. They get a crowd sale for their project to be funded and after that, it's up to the investors and developers on what's going to be the next deal.

And for keeping coins, I'll choose to keep the known coins rather than the coins that are bound and potential to be dumped after the sale. Well, if this cycle continues, sale > pump > dump then the next thing would be investing to the top coins.

Mostly, the only project that has real working products are the only one who will manage to come back even after this so-called dump season. I witnessed a lot of projects like this before. after their prices have been fallen, they suddenly managed to get on their track once their project is fully functional. From the start, you should know which project will you invest because if you invested in some random project, you will end up losing your money after this dumping season because more likely they will not recover after this event.

Yeah good luck with that, because it's not as easy as saying. keeping token in a good price always involves capital except you have a really good project that people are anticipating and is really worth it to have otherwise no coin could get away from the dump of bearish market even bitcoin. maybe there are a few that are being pumped but most of them are low volume coin that can be easily manipulated.

Yes, I absolutely agree to take profit when the time for selling comes.
I have been avoiding IEO for a long time, yes, even though many say it is profitable, but not for those who are late entering. Yes, it's more fun to buy coins or tokens that already have good prices and development.

I do think that there are other factors to consider when there's a bear market.

• It could have been caused by political changes concerning a country or a government
• When people can't support the price and needs funds
• The short term psychology
• and many others

That's what I'm currently practicing, getting all the profits, and being satisfied with what I gained and focusing on the reality that we need to be practical, especially when money is involved. It's not just projects, but certain groups of people should have to develop. The learning never ends, and companies shouldn't stop too. People should always be ready with what the market gives and be responsible for your actions as well.

Altcoin industry works this way. You must be ready to risk all your 100% of capital here unlike what bitcoin investments require. IEO is just a new version of ICO and expecting those exchanges to filter-out scammers is really a wrong assumptions from investors' side. Some crypto people speculate like 99% of altcoins will bite dust like will hit zero value over the time. This is because altcoins are getting their value from bitcoins and when bitcoin is finding its up-trend, altcoins are falling. So, if bitcoin will rise up in future then altcoin may value in single digit to zero satoshi.

I guess most crypto adopters might have alright realized about the "season", that is the reason we are seeing altcoins are getting dumped even bitcoin prices are trading relatively stable. I am too afraid of my altcoin stash but I believe out of 25+ coins and tokens, if at least 2 to 5 coins survive and find pumping, I guess I will be able to recover my capital, let's wait what time is having to unfold for all of us.

But the tricky thing is about how to be independent of bitcoin. Bitcoin has already used as a way to determine the price of the coin. The developer must think about how to be independent of bitcoin. That will not give a lot of impacts even if you are creating a bunch of updates to the platform and the price of your token still follow the bitcoin's fluctuation. This is the problem that already faced by all of the altcoins. They wanna be independent but they can't. That prevents the developer from thinking about how to make it happen ( to prevent the dump).
I think it's an almost impossible thing to do that right now.
Just keep in your mind even various projects have used their formulas to leave from the bitcoin's domination

It is difficult to predict the market in its current condition, prices are still volatile and there are many coins whose prices continue to fall. If we look at the market value of the cryptocurrency market cap, it is still stagnant in the range of $ 200 billion and in my opinion in the past few months there has been no increase

Crypto market is actually in a very good position. Right now most of the projects that were just empty promises are dying off, that is actually a good thing. It gives more space/resources to teams that are at least doing something.


Yes, like do actual development.

Development does not guarantee us anything, look at Stratis. The price keeps declining without making any comeback these two years, what is the reason?
They never stopped developing the project, enabling smart contracts like others, scalable. But why the price keeps declining?
In bear market everything is on the decline without exception, which means sell your coin as long as you get the profit.

Altcoin prices have fallen quite rapidly this year. And the market is still more volatile. Investors have begun to choose older coins as a safe harbor instead new projects. In this case, new projects failed because they could not find enough funds. In order to change this situation, i think that the dominance of Bitcoin should decrease and the positive movement in altcoin prices should start again.

But it is still around, isnt it ? Look at how many coins/projects completely vanished. Most of the scammers made a bee-line out of the door. Theres a bigger chance that the projects that are still being developed are not scams and might grow into something.
Naturally you should take profit but what this bear market really showed is how over leveraged people were. People risked way more than they could afford to loose and even once they had money they had no understanding on how to preserve it.

Or maybe just don't invest if you will just dump anyway.
The fact that you recognize it as a red market, it means we are in a bad market where investing for short term is not good.

let's admit it, majority of us are investing in crypto for short term return only that's why we are frustrated to see this long bearish market and we think of dumping. For me, I would not do that, if ever I have invested in the past, I will just hold it until the market recovers, then just sell.

Personally, I think that now the cryptocurrency market is very unstable. And there is every chance to lose your money. And now it remains only to wait for the moment when you need to press the button in time and get a good profit. And not everyone has achieved success since many will lose their money. Now everyone must choose for themselves what they will do with their investments.

New projects will experience a lot of challenges especially if the market is down and its up to them whether to give up or to continue fighting so they can reach their goal. Its normal for a new token/coin to dump on bear market just like the coin whose on top, what important the most here is that their plan and their roadmap to keep the project alive.

Agree. Never participated in any IEO cause I can not explain myself why on earth that shitcoin should pump. Logically, it should fall. Meanwhile marketmaking is only a temporary solution and there's no guarantee that it will work even next time.

Most projects will never recover from this so called dump season so do not invest on useless tokens and coins, some coins with real use cases will surge after dumping season is finally over

If the projects are successful, none of them will not be dumped, almost 99% of them are shitcoins. Listed exchange is not more important than the project itself. Even if it is listed in the good exchange, its price will increase for a few days due to the hyip, then again it will return to the deserved price. The only culprit is the project developers, the existence of a real use product is almost the only solution.

Controversial advice. You never know what will happen tomorrow.
Yes, current market trends are more likely negative than positive if we are talking about the altcoin market as a whole.

However, many IEO projects released in 2019 show excellent growth compared to the rest of the majority of the market.
It all depends on what kind of assets at your disposal, the higher their liquidity, the higher the chances of growth.

yes more with chance on present that developer might defines of one on option as referring initial terms as collecting immediate supports on coverage with the funding as expecting project completion with the imo, ieo and ico scheme of modulation.

Nowadays, is different from yesterday like the situation of the market in which so down and some investors doubt to invest due to some project that can be scam and not legit. Likewise, we need to aware the possible not legit project and we need to search more time of it in order to avoid those possible scammers around here in crypto currency community.

Hey. I agree, the situation this year taught me how to take profit while it is there. Do not live in illusions. I am glad that I sold my altcoins at a good price, today it costs almost nothing at all.

True, even if there is a surge in prices on coins that are useful after the current dumping season, it will also not be too far, because something that has fallen will be a little difficult to rise to a higher direction.

You can only make speculations, crypto market/ trade with conditions like this, that's a natural thing. So, you have to make your own strategy to adjust the market situation.

i agree we are really in dump season because almost everyone is just waiting for the next bitcoin halving and doing their best to get more bitcoin
some of them will sell for lose and we can really expect big drop for altcoin.

Yeah that's true that is the reason why some members are frustrated due to the downfall of coins. Even i would not sell until the market reaches it's peak. Should have some patience just wait for the right moment and act.

Market is not stable, always going up and down, most times smart people always take advantage of the low price and buy, if you understand the market properly, you can still make good profit trading, unfortunately not every has the right knowledge to trade in such low market, i always prefer to hold some good coin in the hope that it will yield good reward in future.

I think this advice is only good for bounty hunters, if you invest in projects from binance or other top exchanges do no bother because they will surely rise better, look at all IEO projects on binance, after many investors dumps their tokens the projects still surges on their own, this is the power of top exchanges

I wonder why no one is talking about new projects that get listed on binance, kucoin, gate, coinall etc because these projects are doing extremely fine, i would invest in projects like celer network, matic, sero, gowithmi because the teams means business, they are not here for gains but for the success of their project

You should use the red market to inverse your money. It is good time to inverse your money. In this crypto market, both pump and dump is occur in very short period.I don't know why people get panic for the short dump. If you want to earn more from your investment, you need to eliminate your panic and try to hold your coin for longer period.


The  price of altcoin is purely depend on bitcoin most of the time.But the needed one is patience in your trade. Wait for your time to sell your holdings.Some times, even it need of some months to sell your holding at good price.

Well i never like sane things  ;D its good to be craze, in crypto space its indeed craze, daze etc you name it, if you are in need of cash its better to always pull out your profit but as a bounty hunter i suggest you should only promote projects you can keep for long term, projects with real use cases will not fail if the teams are ready to work though

We are in this red mood, already science 2018 and nothing changes. Altcoins are falling, mass adoption is not increasing, the amount of scammers is increasing as well, we need a miracle to make things look better.

I think this is a bad idea, since the IEO industry is already dying and if you try to make money now, you can lose more than there is a chance to make money. Let's better not give ourselves to the manipulators and will sit quietly in USD and wait for a new cycle of market growth.
Then it’s already possible to buy altcoins with all the money and enjoy profit in the future, you have to be optimistic.

Lot of scam has been carried out in this space I will advice everyone not to get emotional with any project pull out your funds when you can buy later there's always a buy opportunity at the moment you have need for it.

He has been insane for a long time, just many noticed it only now when they began to realize that they began to lose more than earn, so always, it happens so suddenly smoothly that we do not pay attention to it. You must always monitor the market and go with the flow, then you will begin to notice cycles of growth and fall, and when you understand it then you will perceive it as true and will not assume that this is not adequate.

IEO and ICO are not the fact IMO. The main fact is the crypto market is full of scammers. So where we go we can see scamming. For that the crypto world is now lack of real/big investors like before. Now people only just want to earn instantly. For that Whales are now trying to Discover some ways where they can earn in short periods and thus the new and little like us investors faced the problems. And people now trying to avoid long term investment.   

By "some coins" you mean all? Frankly, only 10 coins aren't useless

My strategy is day trading regardless of Bitcoin moves, up or down. Every move is a chance to trade and get some profit. My main aim is to increase my BTC amount in the long term, not to increase in dollars. So I would not participate in IEO's as I find them too risky.

Are there people who are still investing in projects? In my opinion it’s obvious that now is not the best time for cryptocurrencies. The market is already oversaturated already, so there is no reason to buy anything besides top and verified coins.

I think to safeguard investors there are many things that project teams can do and one of the biggest thing which we also see in traditional shares markets is the lower lock where if the price dumps to a certain level then the trading halts while in some better techniques team provides liquidity by placing buy order at some level so that people who want to exit can sell without causing serious dumps.

IMO the market is strong except for some disruptions. Although not all, most new projects lose value due to their own mistakes or they are just shitcoins. But that is not what we need. Actually, "trading on time" tactic is applied in normal situations. "Those that need to be sold are sold, those that need to be hold are hold".

dump is inevitable, even developers can't create new sensations to prevent it. at least trading and staking competitions are effective in maintaining their volume even though prices do not keep up. only IEO products that still can survive, most ICO products end up insane, investors only panic with the inability of developers to anticipate prices, or even immediately hands off.

It probably whales are looking for some alternatives that is why we can't see them so active just like what they did before. Too bad to thnk how scammers ruin the market, they took advantage of being in the anonymity which somehow will affect the trust for big investors as well. Of course, it is a big risk into their part, and the is the reason why they are much careful by now.

I also realized long ago that to sell coins you need immediately. No need to wait long. You need to keep bitcoin or ether for a long time. Other altcoins need to be speculated because few of them will live long.

In my observation of some projects, even if they get a dump, they are making their way to back in the track. Even though at 1st they fail, but after that, they will back to track and making it a success in the end. Some projects are like that and for me IEO and ICO are most likely the same.

You are right there is a lot of dumping occurring and price manipulation by large holders of both Bitcoin and the major assets but that's not a reason to panic sell, and if you're a first time investor it presents a great opportunity to buy and accumulate at good value

Things don't always work out as you plan it in crypto space so there for its better to understand the risk before jumping in, for now crypto market is not in good shape so many will be disappointed along the way, the only sure way of income now is trading, only if you know how to

almost 2 seasons we were tested in the cryptoqurrency room whether it was a prize hunter or a project investor. especially the altcoin holders who buy high prices very rarely get profits now because altcoin prices have lost a lot of value. for me currently holding bitcoin to secure your money here or throw away a few coins if there is still a chance.

The reason is because it's a new trend and everyone is hyped base on the crowd response. That's why others saw the chance and opportunity in that case while others didn't bother to invest because obviously, they have a huge similarity.

The established coins will still dominate the market and regardless of new idea comes out again but if it would be the same with crowd sale, they'll really experience the same scene.

I think indeed we are being in that phase, a continuous dump on a new project that always gives too many bonuses in sales.
And there is also a high allocation of airdrop and bounty that can make the price worse on the exchanges if the dev does not do the buyback or anything.

haha, yeah this is very crazy. from a drastic increase in prices, then dropped dramatically and until now there has been no drastic increase again. then added with the ico / ieo industry which also did not produce anything in one year. overall the crypto track record for 2019 is crazy, this is crazy.

New projects are just there to make us more money, that is the reality of cryptocurrency today. No matter how innovative it is, no matter how good the marketing is, it is all the same. You make a project, you get investors, you got an exchange, you dump, and then you make another project. The cycle of ICO and IEO. There's no ending to it and that's why cryptocurrency as a whole will be affected. Unless it's a stable coin with a good budget on its own.

Actually quite true. IEO projects for me aims to open a new trending investment for traders. Meaning, there's  a chance invetsors to gain some ROI/ profit with it. Look on Troy the newly launchpad of Binance, it earn 2x profit with its price during their lottery stakes. Then slowly dumping now. Anyway, some already exit and get their profits. Anyway, some projects are all same cause and likely to do the same.

That's how developers think right now, they are just creating project and bring investors money inside then list it inside the exchange and dumped the together with early investors who bought within the pre-sale period. Traders who will buy after being listed will be trapped and sadly say that will be
losing their money. The cycle will keeps repeating itself and many more projects will show up with the same concepts.