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Title: How merit is acquired
Post by: bananacue on December 05, 2019, 03:58:29 AM
I have read some post that in order to get merits you should have quality post. Is there any standard to identify whether your post is in quality or not? Like the length, contents or styles?. I've seen some posts that in my opinion are in quality but didn't get any merit. Is there any other way to get merit?


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: hd49728 on December 05, 2019, 04:05:26 AM
I don't give you link because it is better for you if now you begin to learn how to use the Search tab of the forum (the left one besides the Profile tab).
Key words:
- Merit system and rank requirements theymos
- Writing a welcome message theymos
You can also do it with any search engine (google, bing, duckduckgo). After getting those topics and after reading, you will know how to earn merits.
Length does not equal to quality (read in Writing a welcome message).
You can believe your posts are good (in quality) but in reality, the others don't think so.


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: Upgrade00 on December 05, 2019, 04:10:09 AM
Is there any standard to identify whether your post is in quality or not?
There is no standard, post quality is subjective but if you regularly out effort into the posts you make and they are helpful and relevant, many other members are bound to find them to be quality.
I've seen some posts that in my opinion are in quality but didn't get any merit.
You can report quality posts which[self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0) didn't get any merits here:
Is there any other way to get merit?
Other than making quality discussions, there is no other way that is ethical and within the forums rules.


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: Bttzed03 on December 05, 2019, 04:31:31 AM
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Is there any standard to identify whether your post is in quality or not?   
It's usually informative and helpful.

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Like the length, contents or styles?.
There is no specific style of presentation or length. For content, other than what I already said above, it helps if the post or comment is not repetitive (it hasn't been said/discussed already). For presentation, at least have a good format (spacing, bullets, tables, etc.).

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I've seen some posts that in my opinion are in quality but didn't get any merit.

"Quality" is subjective. Sometimes, quality posts are not seen because they are posted on spam boards like Altcoin discussion. Many senior members here rarely reads topics on that section.




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Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: Lafu on December 05, 2019, 04:35:23 AM
Yes as others have written, just be helpful and nice to other users, respectful and be a good contributor to the forum.
Dont expect Merits for good posts, sometimes you get nothing.


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: Krislaw on December 05, 2019, 07:57:45 AM
There's no standard to what a post should look like before it gets merited. You need to keep a good post history because some merit sources always check post history before they merit a post. If you are spammer, you won't rank up on time here.
 You get merited if you post helpful threads, burst scams, and other. Do not make most of your post in Altcoin discussion because some merit sources rarely go there.


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: BIT-BENDER on December 05, 2019, 07:59:25 AM
I have read some post that in order to get merits you should have quality post. Is there any standard to identify whether your post is in quality or not? Like the length, contents or styles?. I've seen some posts that in my opinion are in quality but didn't get any merit. Is there any other way to get merit?
If you make a reply and it answers a problem or Atleast goes far into discovering the answer to the problem you post is qualified to be considered as a quality post even if the reply was lengthy or not length, some lengthy post can be a big roll of junk or for other purposes.
Be More concerned about the drive or usefulness about the post.


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: DdmrDdmr on December 05, 2019, 08:38:36 AM
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Meriting is subjective, and not subject to a specific criteria. A common denominator would entail the posts being of interest, helping out, stating a well versed opinion, and so on. Style is diverse, but generally it should envolves the content to be easy to read (i.e. not written in broken-English – there are local boards for those not well versed in English).

Length should not be a factor (providing it’s not a one-liner garbage post), but placement does have a weight in visibility (i.e. Altcoin boards may be more difficult that say Beginners & Help, and posts on tails of mega-threads are generally not that good at obtaining merits).

Some posts obviously may go unmerited for multiple reasons, but on average, if the poster created decent content, he will be merited on some of his posts. Even the best posters may have averages of being merited say in 1 out of 5 posts (although the merit per post ratio may be higher if the amount of merits received on the merited posts is high).

Normally it all boils down to the content provided, the expressivity used, and the time one has to create that content (correlated to the amount of thought put into the content).

Note: Looking over your posting history, you tend to overly quote other people’s posts entirely. It is better to delimit the quote to the part you want to respond to, and not the whole post, in order to render a better understanding and read.

Note 2: If you want to see it from a quantitative perspective, you can play around with the Merit Dashboard that figures on my profile.


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: trumpman on December 05, 2019, 08:43:16 AM
I have read some post that in order to get merits you should have quality post. Is there any standard to identify whether your post is in quality or not? Like the length, contents or styles?. I've seen some posts that in my opinion are in quality but didn't get any merit. Is there any other way to get merit?

Its half luck, half effort! Just try to make constructive, meaningful posts and if people find them useful or entertaining they might send you some merit! Also, don't try to exchange merit with other people, it's frowned upon here and there are always people keeping an eye out for people trying to game the system :)


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: masulum on December 05, 2019, 09:52:09 AM
Its half luck, half effort!

50:50? I think it's not like that. Maybe only 10% (I can't give an actual percentage about this) we can get merit based on our luck. Like, we are expected to get 1 merit for our post, but in reality we got 20 merit just from that post. It can be said as luck. Merit that we get is based on effort, even our very good  post (on your behalf) not get merit, it's not because we are not lucky. But, merit is subjective as DdmrDdmr says above. Good for us, maybe for another member it just a general post, so we don't get merits. Think about our effort first to get merit. Because merit is not a lottery ticket. :)

IMO


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: Henri Cartier on December 05, 2019, 11:17:43 AM
The quality post doesn't mean lengthy content or stylish content. The post should be good, understandable by everyone and it should be useful for everyone. And do not think about merits while posting anything. You just actively post on different threads and sections of forum. Merit will be automatically given by the community members for the good posts. I have collected few useful threads in my list of useful threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179785.msg52298513#msg52298513). You can refer that to know which all threads had acquired more merits.


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: UserU on December 05, 2019, 12:50:57 PM
Other than making quality discussions, there is no other way that is ethical and within the forums rules.

Actually there is, by locating those giveaway threads if you've some contributions to share.


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: LbtalkL on December 05, 2019, 02:06:40 PM
Don't focus and pressure yourself in earning merits, Just read the forum rules, be a good member enjoy your stay, read some threads and help other members if you have some knowledge to share about his question. That's it and merits will come to you my friend.
Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0
Newbie guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: Daniel91 on December 05, 2019, 03:38:29 PM
There are a lot members in this forum but most members with smaller ranks no longer have merit to share, or very little.
This actually means that the merits are given by those who have them, which are older members with higher ranks or/and merit source.
All these members already know a lot about this forum and bitcoin in general and it's not easy to meet the criteria to obtain merits.
I suggest you first study this forum well and crypt in general, investigate scams in the btc world, find news that might interest others and then share it in the forum.
I usually reward such posts with merits, and I believe other members with merits also. 


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: gentlemand on December 06, 2019, 12:19:26 AM
Don't write acres of pointless shit. Deliver your point and run away.

Be yourself. Don't pretend to know something you don't.

Don't 'educate' people in a boring and spammy way which seems to be the most common form of merit fishing. A question is just as interesting as an answer.

If it makes me think, enlightens or entertains me then I'll merit it.


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: trumpman on December 06, 2019, 08:06:44 AM
Its half luck, half effort!

50:50? I think it's not like that. Maybe only 10% (I can't give an actual percentage about this) we can get merit based on our luck. Like, we are expected to get 1 merit for our post, but in reality we got 20 merit just from that post. It can be said as luck. Merit that we get is based on effort, even our very good  post (on your behalf) not get merit, it's not because we are not lucky. But, merit is subjective as DdmrDdmr says above. Good for us, maybe for another member it just a general post, so we don't get merits. Think about our effort first to get merit. Because merit is not a lottery ticket. :)

IMO

50:50 is more like a figure of speech. What I meant is that even if you make a really, really, really, useful or constructive or entertaining post it's not certain that somebody will actually bother to merit you.


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: aristiano on December 06, 2019, 09:39:34 AM
In my own opinion. Merit is a compliment from others for your dedication, help, or news to the community. Make yourself rich, I and you are on the same path!


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: Juggy777 on December 06, 2019, 11:48:24 AM
I have read some post that in order to get merits you should have quality post. Is there any standard to identify whether your post is in quality or not? Like the length, contents or styles?. I've seen some posts that in my opinion are in quality but didn't get any merit. Is there any other way to get merit?

@bananacue there’s no minimum length but avoid posting one word liners and then get upset at not getting merits for the said post. The minimum qualification is proper command of the English language, and along with it try and make it helpful and filled with facts so other users like reading what you have posted.

You can also read more merit guides here:

1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206754.msg53255728#msg53255728

2) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5189040.0


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: bestered10 on December 07, 2019, 04:08:41 AM
I don't give you link because it is better for you if now you begin to learn how to use the Search tab of the forum (the left one besides the Profile tab).
Key words:
- Merit system and rank requirements theymos
- Writing a welcome message theymos
You can also do it with any search engine (google, bing, duckduckgo). After getting those topics and after reading, you will know how to earn merits.
Length does not equal to quality (read in Writing a welcome message).
You can believe your posts are good (in quality) but in reality, the others don't think so.
it would have been a great pleasure shearing d link but all d same thinks for key words to search


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: tbct_mt2 on December 09, 2019, 01:19:22 AM
@bananacue there’s no minimum length but avoid posting one word liners and then get upset at not getting merits for the said post. The minimum qualification is proper command of the English language, and along with it try and make it helpful and filled with facts so other users like reading what you have posted.
Quality does not correlated with languages or length of posts. Posters are able to receive merits from their recognised contributions by some of their good posts.

I say some because not all of good posts will be read by the others. It is the fact because of the forum has still been affected by lots of shit posts. The another reason is merit sources are unable to spend their time to find and read all of good posts in the forum, and sometimes good or un-good (not shit) posts are subjtectively judged by readers.

From this aspect, language is not the most important thing. I agree that posts written in good English will do help rising the probability to catch attention of readers, and when readers understand most part of what posters want to mention, and when readers like or agree with posters' opinion, readers will probably send merits to the posts they read and like / agree with.

Overally, good posts always have higher probability to receive merits with whatever language (English or locals) but English-written posts might have a little higher probabilty (due to higher reading-times)


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: xZork on December 09, 2019, 03:08:32 AM
There is no standard for a quality post, maybe it's a high-profile post that can be a scam warning. The forum does not rate your post, all smerit owners will evaluate it themselves.
Just post something useful to the community and people will give you merit.
I think the only way to earn merit is to be a helpful person and publish quality articles.


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: GSpgh on December 09, 2019, 02:02:39 PM
Be yourself. Don't pretend to know something you don't.

This is the only thing that will work in the long run. I'm surprised how many reputable members here are trying to play along with the OP and provide some strategy tips. There is no universal strategy that can make one a better poster, other than just do what you would normally do in a forum and forget aiming for merit.

You do memes well? Can get merit for that if you do it in the right place and time. Know how to swear in 3 different languages? Might work too. Can manually hash a Bitcoin block? Welcome back, Satoshi, here is 100 thousand merits for you. This place is so extremely liberal that you can even get merits by posting about shitcoins which is mindblowing to me but it does happen. And there are many posters who will never get merits no matter how hard they try, that's a fact too.

For example I looked at the few merits I earned and there is no chance I could have predicted that those posts would have earned merits. Except maybe the threads I started. Threads are more likely to earn merits I think maybe because people don't read past the OP. But it would be bad advice to say "create threads to earn merits". Don't do that. Create threads only if you have something to say that is not said in other threads and doesn't fit into other threads.


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: 3 angle on December 09, 2019, 03:46:50 PM
There is no standard for a quality post, maybe it's a high-profile post that can be a scam warning. The forum does not rate your post, all smerit owners will evaluate it themselves.
Just post something useful to the community and people will give you merit.
I think the only way to earn merit is to be a helpful person and publish quality articles.

Quote from @Juggy777:

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7) Make sure your posts are constructive and helpful: I can’t stress how important post quality is, but since every guide has covered it in details I’ll keep it short here focus on quality rather than quantity.

I think that's an important point and one of the many suggestions I like about "How merit is acquired".
Visit: Merits Guide based on my personal experience. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206754.msg53255728#msg53255728) to read all the guidelines from @Juggy77, he shared his experience of merit acquisition there.


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: Onuohakk on December 09, 2019, 07:03:19 PM
Be consistent in the forum, read other people's post before suggesting yours. Post meaningfully without making much grammatical errors. Keep following up your post, don't just post for posting sake to meet up bounty post


Title: Re: How merit is acquired
Post by: COCKSMUGGLA69 on December 09, 2019, 10:16:58 PM
I got all my merit from posting in the art contest. Any thread that solicits content creation is a good place to get merits.