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Hey, guys! Check this video where Tone Vays shares his opinion on future of Bitcoin's price. He considers that BTC will fall to $5k and will start growing just after that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qABFMlxnmFA

no one knows the future and no predictions are 100% accurate, currently there are many predictions related to bitcoin, some estimate that bitcoin leads to 10 thousand, some say bitcoin will continue to fall, I myself do not really care about that prediction, Prefer to own analysis.

All we can make a educated guesses depending on how we analyse what we see on the charts.  I really respect Tone Vays as a trader and I look forward to seeing how his prediction pans out.

I am not sure with the decline in bitcoin to $5000 especially after that it will experience good growth. I think this way if only bitcoin can grow well but no one knows its future predictions how it will happen.
Bitcoin will be normal in the next 2 weeks at a price of $7000- $7500 but after the new year arrives bitcoin will begin to grow slowly.

actually prediction is just a prediction. Think about it, if people can accurately predict the prices of goods and currencies, is it too easy to make money? I never believe in predictions, I believe in price lines. because the price lines tell the truth that bull or bear side is stronger and the trend can change anytime. My opinion is that bitcoin is still in the downtrend zone and it can bounce up at any time because the selling power at $ 7k or less is very low. That has led many times Bitcoin to reach $ 7k and rebound after that very quickly.

He just predicted the bitcoin price.Every prediction is not always right.Because many people predicted that btc price will be 50k+$ in 2019 and many people told that it will be 2k-3k even it can be 0. So don’t take all prediction seriously. Do your own research.But I don’t think bitcoin will go down to 5K$ but in can be down or it can reverse anytime.               

If bitcoin fall to $5k, and will start growing after that, then i will hold it. Actually i can't do TA or any analysis in trading. Usually i only see people's perspective although in bitcoin trading usually i will do hold for longer time. As long i not in urgent condition, although need a months or years to hold bitcoin is ok for me.

I find this scenario very possible considering Bitcoin has been going down overall since massive pump in April. I don't mind $5K really. It's just another opportunity to acquire more Bitcoin, cheap Bitcoin ;) I'm glad that he also said that BTC will grow after $5K. I mean yea halving is happening soon. If Bitcoin keeps its downtrend even after halving, that bad :D

Bitcoin never grows slowly!

And here we go again, another day, another new predictions.
Actually since we're seeing that the price bitcoin is not so well for the pas few days, his opinion might be true. But it could be not either.

The price as of now is always around $7100ish, it needs to go below that mark to go down even more. No matter if halving is happening soon, after all, the last halving took quite the time until bitcoin reached the bull run and a new ath. Who knows, things could be different this time or not.

I have no idea why the need to post this. The guy literally just passed by the prediction, it didn't even take 30 seconds, a few seconds at most and bam, the discussion about BTC probable price and done. Plus, the source itself is a problem since it's an interview. I'd rather have a prediction made with explanations through the use of charts and such during a video, one that this video didn't show. Additionally, this was posted around a month ago already? You never know, he may have actually changed his prediction already.

The part where he said about the growth of 10k and above once it has reached that checkpoint, I couldn't agree more about it though. I've done a bit of studying and well, based on past records, it's pretty easy to see how BTC moves during halvings (Considering no other surprise factors are involved).

Yeah and I don't see any difference between this and all other predictions before. All these speculations are basically clawing on straws. No steady basis and it's as good as anyone's prediction who don't even have any experiences in crypto. Better not mind any of these anymore as they're just the same as the others. I have my own predictions and that's as good as this with the same chances of coming true. To each his own I think.

I don't understand what's the big deal on this. He was just asked for his own views and nothing more because that was an interview. He "guessed" and not actually gave a prediction meaning his statement was based on how he looks at the status this year.

And aside from that, it's up to anyone if they will buy it or not.

The whole video was not totally about that "prediction". So sort of a clickbait.

Move this thread into Speculation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=57.0) if you still want to talk about predictions regarding this.

He made that prediction 3 weeks ago. He posted a new video 2 days ago: https://twitter.com/ToneVays/status/1204929773253922817

He's still leaning bearish but he's waiting for a breakdown below the $7,080 low, which he says is a critical support, before expecting more downside. He also thinks a short squeeze is possible from here. In other words, it could go up or down.

I'm bullish to Bitcoin but if it will go down to its 7k$ support, the next targets are around $5k which is the 200 day MA at this moment and going lower from it will go to a possible 2-3k which is I think will not happen at least.

Well, this is just another prediction coming from another Bitcoin trader and even an mere investor who isn't trading at all can share his prediction too. Making your own technical analysis is better than following the analysis of others since in the end, nobody knows what can happen in the future.

Bitcoin is a volatile cryptocurrency so we can't said the future pump and dump. But I am sure it will never cross the below 5k USD, because we saw the previous dump on Bitcoin so we predict some upcoming pump and dump so again it will going to moon, May be it will cross the 15k USD again investors are sell some Bitcoin then we see some dump on Bitcoin.

You said that bitcoin is volatile so not being a negative guy here, it can fall in to $5k USD. But let's help each other promote bitcoin and wait for it to rise again. But most of the things that fall, stand up twice or thrice. So maybe, it will exceed again to $10K USD and that's a wonderful thing for the bitcoin's future and for us holder's future.

Never underestimate bitcoin's ability to regenerate itself again from downfall.

This kind of analysis make bitcoin price will really fall to that point because people are trusting the analysis. So, people who don't have bitcoin yet will wait at 5k to buy and people who already have are selling it because they want for lower price. So i think if many people are predicting like this and the price will be really like this

The scenario of returning to $5k is possible, because the current state of bitcoin is in sideways, when it exits sideways it can go up or down. And if bitcoin goes down through the closest support line, it will definitely go to $5k. But I still don't think that bitcoin will be under $5k because btc's position is quite strong when viewed from the chart.

it's not like that, because there are so many predictions out there, that it won't be easy for people to believe every prediction. unless they don't have the knowledge to trust especially when it comes from famous influencers. but in my opinion, it's still realistic, when prices will grow higher, it will definitely go down before.

Well Tone Vays did make a lot of wrong predictions in 2018 and in mid 2018, if I remember correctly, he said the same prediction, $5000. So I don't consider Tone Vays as one of those so called experts, although he shares his technical analysis which is again, false.

Thanks for the video, but I'm very skeptic of his every prediction. I also recalling him predicting that bitcoin will reach $100,000 in 2017, which didn't happened obviously.

yes, do not just believe on a prediction, I mean it is just a thought of someone or an idea of someone, we should not rely on it, or we should not conclude so easily, yes bitcoin experiences a lot of dumps this year but It did not go as low as $5000 just wait for bitcoin to come back again to its high price. let just wait and do not make any fud about bitcoin.

I would like to see the growth of bitcoin without falling to 5 thousand  ;D ;D

I've heard the name Tone Vays before but I haven't a clue who he is.

If he's saying bitcoin's going to drop to $5k and then go higher, that's quite a specific prediction--and since he can't see the future any better than the rest of us, his prediction is probably as wrong as any of us could make.  This is why I hate guessing about what bitcoin's going to do.  It just seems so pointless. 

But even more pointless would be to listen to predictions like this one.  Sure, it could happen but I don't think bitcoin is going to go as low as $5k and if it does, I'm not sure when it would even get back to where it is right now, which is just above $7k.  Getting down to $5k would be very, very bearish.

dont beleive pridiction of any people because no one can give exact price . bitcoin already make correction and this bear market will end soon ; the good solution is to buy bitcoin and dont sell ; halving comming and there no reason for sell now

Didnt clicked out that link.Its just an another speculation where even an ordinary person could do or presume.Prices of this market is always been unpredictable, it can go below 5k or to the level
where people cant even think of.

Important thing here is that we do know how to utilize these movement to make money.You can short or long and this is where trading and investing skills would matter.If you can
withstand no matter the market trend is then consider yourself as good trader.

The fud today is just too soft, looks like a sign of giving up on their part. It use to say Bitcoin going ZERO but this time it only say its going to be dumped. Tone is a reputable individual in crypto and I guess if his followers will really believe him, the price would have been declining since it been weeks when this video was uploaded.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Di0pouUW0AARjSb.jpg:large
You never seen this guy? A haircut like that is......hard to forget. :P

Anyway, he's just a Twitter analyst/trader who got big mainly just because he's so loud in his opinions. He called the top at $7,500 in 2017 and kept defending it all the way up. I honestly think that's how he became so well known. He's usually too bearish.

If we really understand the flow of crypto even not bitcoin it is normal but I think no one knows if when it will happen. There are so many prediction some say that bitcoin will going zero value and that is impossible. But I think analyst are only guessing their prediction because even they study about previous prices it doesn't mean that this is the pattern to know the future prices.

if before halving the price of bitcoin will go down it will not be under $ 5,000 as I said, there is a big buy support of $ 5500 - $ 6000, but I do not guarantee that the price will go down again if you like the benefits of buying at this time is not a faux pas in my opinion, I don't think it will go down to touch that price before halving, there is still 5 months from now to play with the price before it actually leaves because the long queue behind makes the price kick away. I am rarely interested in hearing Tone Vays predictions

That is a fact! Bitcoin price can't predict by anyone exactly. Yes, you can make a suggestion base from its timeline, fundamentals and technical analysis.
But what ever we predict, I think it is a matter of good timing. If you buy for only 5K dollars and sell it for 10k dollars then it is a win game for you.

I dont think its possible for bitcoin to retest $5k price range. If you look at it in technical perspective it could be possible for bitcoin to drop back down to the $6k price for a retest but right now momentarily we've been save by a whales bet for 5 million doge. Once bitcoin drops back to $6k we will see how it goes from there and look for a confirmation either to the downside or upside, so in the short term im bearish.

well, i know this guy before and he's one of the influencers in our crypto world. But I want you to know that no one can predict the future. If there are predictive formulas, the financial market will not exist because everyone wins and no one loses. I thought bitcoin would only hit $ 6k5 hard support and then bounce back and we can expect it to be an uptrend until the end of 2020.

It's very likely that we'll see a big drop. In my opinion, if Bitcoin stays in the bear channel where it's been in for like the last 4 months, we should see a correction to $5,000 or $4,500 since it's such a psychological barrier. that's why people say the best advice is to sell before 2020, because some people will sell off at the bottom of these big drops and then have to buy back in when it recovers, costing them more money than if they just let it be. I even expected it to drop back down in the $3,000-$4,000 range again, but maybe some news will pushed it well above $5,000.

It's just an speculation and her own opinion which there's no specific theology about what he just said in her video . In fact its impossible if you you make a technical analysis nor monitoring the market because bitcoin still have strong grip indeed . Don't easily trust those who share theology about the market make your own research and technical because mostly nowadays are fake and always claim their selves as a professional and expert when it comes the market conditions..

5k should come pretty quickly. I believe it will happen similarly to 2018/2019 3.3k range. We can expect some sideways action then and depending on how long it takes to consolidate we will be entering the next cycle some time in 2020 or 2021.

I'm not so sure though. Many people had their target set at a recovery to +$10k levels and they were wrong, and badly so. Currently people target the $5k level and I think they will be wrong again.

I however don't see why $4.5k is such a psychological barrier? It would have made sense to say $7k, $6k but there is not much about $4.5k that makes it relevant. If we drop below $5k sub $4k is the next logical target.

I becomes more sure that market is controlled by group of whales because those whales are seeing people prediction on the internet, They will look at the most analysis are targeting which price and then they will make it the opposite. This is only my personal speculation based on what happened on the field.

I’ve watched him on YouTube and he seems to be very good at reading charts, but he makes it clear that any prediction makes is not guaranteed to happen and it can change based on other signals.

Indeed, In this season there will be many people who predict the price of Bitcoin, we just enjoy their predictions.
So do not be influenced by the predictions they say, you better analyze it yourself without hearing the predictions of others.

I didn't watch the video, so I don't know exactly what he said, but falling to $ 5000 is not impossible. If break support at $ 7060 can drop to $6500 and if  break support at $6500 we can see $ 5000. But I believe that falling to $ 5000 will be temporary and the price will increase later

Yes, speculation and prediction is not a certain answer because it's all based on the recent price in the charts. So therefore no one could really predict the future, it will all depend in the present. Let's just hope it won't drop to the 7k support level or else the price would start to drop slowly.

There will always be "famous" crypto people who will tell the same stuff, just recently someone said bitcoin will be $20-$25k as well but now another person is saying it will be $5k, it is quite chaotic when you go into what the "famous" people say. I am saying "famous" instead of famous because these people have no other connection to real world aside from crypto world, they are not know by 99%+ of the people in the world so what they say doesn't carry any weight if you ask me.

Tone could be bearish, he could be bullish and it wouldn't matter, just because he said something doesn't mean it is a good prediction. Could what he said turn out to be true? It could be but it won't happen because he knew it beforehand, he just made up a prediction and could happen to be right this time.

If Bitcoin falls down to $5k then I bet it will not stay there longer because for sure a lot of crypto people will invest and buy more Bitcoin during that time including myself. Anyone here who are in the crypto space for a long time knows that Bitcoin will eventually increase its price in the next 5 or 10 years from now so its worth to hold.

There are currently more sellers than buyers and it simply means that the price could drop anytime since the last support is at $7,000. I am hoping for the price to go down since it is a required movement for bitcoin to have a healthy correction so it can come back stronger in the future. Halving is very near soon and it can help the price to go up very high so it will an easy profit for people who will take the dips as a buying opportunity.

It just prediction but I'm sure we want fall below $ 5k but rise after that. I see many people still have optimist with bitcoin even red market still running and become the longest time we ever know. Just suggestion please stay away from bitcoin market and buy back again below $ 6k, whatever the price just buy but use martiangle money management for your safety. See you next year and goo luck to you.

Listening to others can be beneficial but following them does not make any sense because that would be more like, they are living your life too. People who make such predictions do have some point in their words but still no one can predict the actual values of Bitcoin’s pumps or dumps. The market is bearish at the moment and expected to rise after halving. It is common sense which action is to be taken during what time.

In my opinion, no one can be sure which bitcoin price will move in what direction, nor does Tone Vays explain his prediction regarding the future
of bitcoin. After I saw the video there was nothing new about bitcoin that he had explained, because there were already many people over the
past few months have predicted that bitcoin can drop to $ 5000. So don't trust the results of other people's opinions too much. Just do the analysis
by yourself, the most important thing is that bitcoin goes down at any price. Bitcoin will definitely go back up, we better just hold the bitcoin we
have until the price of the bitcoin reaches the target we want.

I agree with you because no one can say exactly what Bitcoin's exact prediction is But in the coming year, its prices are likely to rise If the price of Bitcoin goes down to $ 5k, then many will go out of crypto and many will buy bitcoin to invest because the price will rise.

it is only a prediction and speculation, not necessarily true. but I don't think bitcoin this time will go down to 5k usd. the lowest level maybe at the 6k level after which it will recover again up and on and on.
If it really happens down to 5k, no problem. no one knows exactly which way bitcoin prices are currently going down or up. for example, last night bitcoin went down, this morning it went up again.

IMO, it is still difficult to believe in.
He have all the reason and analysis but yet I am not moved by it or even consider a little to follow it.

There is so much FUD that is happening now just because of the recent drop. But as far as I know the value of bitcoin is still way higher than what it had just 10 years ago.
Compare it to all commodities that had been discovered and they are not even close to what bitcoin had achieved.

Certainly, this had been warned before when the price of bitcoin was still at $ 7,000. If Bitcoin 7000$ support level breaks, its price will drop and its next stop target is 5500-5800$. Do not buy BTC or altcoin at this time because certainly in the next few days the price will continue to fall, hold on to USDT and wait for the best time to shopping.

I guess it won't take that long for bitcoin to get up again and recover to $7000 or so. Bitcoin's price has been quite stable in $7000 to $7500 so it wasn't surprising seeing it breaks especially this holiday season which the people needs money for celebration. But 2020 looks interesting for bitcoin though, I've seen a lot of news tackling bitcoin positively affects the market and led them to adopt it. Hence the market is very unpredictable who knows it is some kind of massive manipulation along with the holiday season to deceive people. It's interesting to see this way.

Of course, when a support zone is broken, people will talk about the lower support zone. No one can say exactly what time it is to buy bitcoins except whales.
In my opinion, trading on the cryptocurrency market is only trust and luck when we do not have any laws to against the price manipulation.

The whales are still not making moves right now and so it was expected that btc price will be more drowned this December. We're in the middle of holiday season of Christmas day, people will possibly going to spend a lot of money. We aren't in control to that occurrence, because most traders will convert their digital asset for personal spending needs.

Yes you are right but I think you need to research and analyze Bitcoin yourself in addition to watching the chart. It's hard to say whether Bitcoin will go below $ 5k. So keep investing you will definitely benefit from the increase in prices.

Yes, we don't know for sure if Tone Vays is right about that. It's possible that the price will even go below that or maybe not. I was also thinking that before the next halving the price might decrease a bit and after the halving it will start going up till it reaches another ATH. But, I can't really tell if that's how it's going to be or not.

Or, maybe it will go up a bit from the current price and then go higher after the halving. Whatever it is going to be, as long as it doesn't go down to $3000 or below that, then I'm okay with it. I don't really want it to go down below that price because if it does I might have to sell my coins and wait for a better time to get back in.

How come you think they didn't make their moves right now?

Since provably they are the one who's manipulating or riding the current market trend and provably they are fully happy to have cheap btc right now but actually I didn't expect any dump in December since I really think that we can see a moderate pump until next year block halving came. But let see if we can see a good view of pump in future.

That certain whales really affecting the market, whoever this man who predicted that the value will fall up to $5k can be right if all the whales will play accordingly, if they will continue to sell out those big bag holds that they've got and let all the weak holders to follow them. Bitcoin Fates still unsure as market have a lots of twist in terms of support around the industry.

Nothing is confirmed yet this is all speculations and nothing more nobody really knows if bitcoin will go down to that levels, but if bitcoin doesn't manage to close its weekly candle in the key support or above it then we should expect a bearish movement will most likely occur and the price may dump, all the way to the $5000 levels. However it will serve as an opportunity also to buy in the lows.

$5000 is not that unrealistic. I could see it drop that low but I would be surprised to see it go much lower if at all. I believe that as we get closer to the halving, the price will gradually increase.

Do you believe? I have another person's prediction video that says bitcoin will rise to 50k, 100,200,1000k.
so which would you believe?
actually no one knows for sure and it's only speculation from him, everyone can even make their own predictions, so don't believe too much that there are no predictions that are really accurate.

If in the next few days BTC continues to fall below 5800$ then I think it will quickly drop below 5000$ soon. But fortunately, the BTC price is recovering from the bloodshed today. I hope things do not get worse, 6400$ is a suitable bottom for 2019.

Yes, nobody knows exactly what will happen next. In fact, so many speculations have been created but the fact that we are in the volatility market, no one could point out the accurate value( or even just in a day). It is to think that speculations can't be trusted at all, even though they are experts but as what many say, nobody could ride the price and tell everyone that this is the price for the next hours...

Those speculators and speculator wannabe can speculate all they want but fact is, no one can precisely predict how much price of Bitcoin will be in the next couple of days, just look at what happened at the price of Bitcoin yesterday and today, the price went back to $7,200 while the other days some are claiming Bitcoin is dead again. Just hold and sell when you reach your target.

the price reduction actually happened, but after going down, the price recovered to $ 7000. I quite hope that the predictions are wrong about this. I hope the price of $ 6500 achieved a few days ago is the lowest price this month. although the predictions are close to that, I really hope that the price of bitcoin does not go down to the price of $ 5,000. I think the price of $ 6500 is enough to put emotional pressure.however, the price of altcoin is also affected due to the decline. hopefully, prices will go up from here.

Many people don't want that to see since it's totally depressing to see those price to come up, And it's great to see those recovery since it gives confidence to the future since if this good performance continue then provably the $5000 predicted fall will gone and the positive price up will be the one speculated by the people here.

Let's stay positive and those emotional pressure should be taken down so that we will not get any stress.

He is somewhat popular as a researcher and analyst. May be he is right? But the point is how concrete his claim is. Anyway, still ain't nobody knows on what will be the bitcoin situation at a certain time though, it is just like we are riding in a wave in which no one controls it. Furthermore, we can claim whatever we wanna say about crypto future but it is only about that. The real game rely upon what the situation holds, anyway.

He was too negative early in 2019, he didnt spot the regular trend giving a clue of later much more positive prices.   Or at least thats my recollection, I watch him a few times but I dont follow religiously.    I would not presume he is correct right now but perhaps feasible in outlining a scenario possibility for BTC price direction.
   Its really hard to guess on the spirit for BTC a bit like a sleeping crocodile you dont presume  :-X  Its quite explosive and very speculative in its moves but there is usually some lines it has trouble crossing day to day which form regular patterns up or down.


This is fair advice/strategy tbh  - https://youtu.be/qABFMlxnmFA?t=359

The low $5K area totally makes sense to me, the 200 Week MA is currently at $5K and rising, there is the 0.786 fib retracement around $5.6K, as well as previous consolation in May this year between $5.1K-$5.6K roughly. A lot of confluence basically. So if the $6,500 support level doesn't hold (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209110.msg53330184#msg53330184), I'd expect this to be the next level of support that would.

I am not surprised if someone says something about bitcoin price because nowadays, there are so many predictions and speculating many people have made that. But they don't know the truth about what will happen with bitcoin price, and they say like that based on what they see at the market, so they make they're predicting. We can also predict bitcoin prices like what he said and spread it to the public, but once again, we don't know the truth. We can only wait and see it later.

Even bitcoin didn't fall below $6500, seems people still don't want to sell at a cheaper rate, I don't want either. Whenever the price drop, buy the dip is more rational at the current price, the year the potential of bitcoin to reach over $10K in the next year, it's $3000 profit. Then, what will happen after the halving? Bitcoin surely reaches new ATH.

Most people still thinking that bitcoin will faill to $5000 but look at now the price sudden spike up to $7k level its hard to predict when bitcoin goes up or down but the good thing we have a chance to buy bitcoin at a low price before bitcoin going spike so high.

This is the second thread I read, about Bitcoin going down, to $5000 level so far we have escaped that and Bitcoin is recovering and now reached the $7000 level again, the unpredictability of the market make these experts missed a lot of experts predictions I hope now that it recovers, it will continue to grow, we have a very long bear trend, it's time that we have a breather.

We will see enough at the level of $7100 and as it will increase again if viewed from the direction of the graph, with many saying bitcoin will touch $5,000 it will not happen and it is still too far to go down, bitcoin will soon end this obstacle and recover soon as previously.
Expert predictions always miss what they say so it's also hard to believe in them.

The increase in the price of bitcoin is everyone's dream, at the end of this year hope that the price that is not so good ends this year. would be great if in 2020 the price of bitcoin would continue to fly to the moon for at least $ 50K. but however we should not expect too much because the price of Bitcoin is very volatile, we still have to enjoy the flow of the rise in Bitcoin in the future.

I'm not saying there's no chance for it, of course there is but just like others speculation, it's not guaranteed that it could happen. That is just a theory formed based on their observation, analysis, etc. Anyone can do it and have their own theory. Even I, thought the price are also heading it's way to less than $6k since the $7k resistance has been broke and goes down but the price recovered and back at $7k again. That says it all, no one can predict accurately because of market volatility. It's up to you if you are going to believe other words or believe yourself first.

You're completely right, and Tone is also saying it's not guaranteed and that of course $6,500 could be the low. You'll hear him say "It's possible" repeatedly in his videos, just like when we were at $7,800. In the video, and many at least others, he's speculating that the highest probability scenario is for the price to go to the $5K area. I have theories ranging from anywhere between $2,500 and $6,500 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188537.msg52592386#msg52592386), but most longer-term signs for me point to $4K-$5K. Which I find it hard to believe personally, but that's at least what analysis as shown me.

That aside, I'm more interested in time based analysis surrounding the halving, than price based right now. I think it will become increasingly relevant in the coming months.

If we are discussing low prices then the very extreme range possible is going to include what is quite likely a spike that does not last long.   Thats normally the bottom pricing, people give up buying and it drifts and then falls before someone enters or many orders are triggered together and we realise 4500 was the bottom price afterwards.   Its usually obvious because we can never get back there and everyone swears they would buy at 4500 if only it would return, hence it becomes ironic and we never see 4500 again until or unless many months later the market once again become dejected and stops buying but usually a peak completely opposite happens first.

Spike low to 4500 could happen from like 12pm drifting downwards from 6500, at 3pm it spikes down in a sudden panic sell but also these buy orders triggered and by 4pm its too late to capture any of those low prices and its already above the original normal low of 6500.   The vast majority end up not getting the sub 6000 prices.   Low volume in itself shows a price level was not especially stable or significant, the value prospect or less price with not much volume is jumped on by many speculators who do the work to always monitor and judge these things.  But most of us are busy elsewhere sadly.

I was doubting what he said but maybe he was more right than I assumed, dude maybe knows what he is talking about looking at how the bitcoin has been moving in this past week.

I still think 5k is too low for bitcoin to reach but it may get close to it one day if it continues the decline this way. This shows people how we should not have prejudice against people like tone, I was like that and I thought "who is he and why would I care about his predictions?" but now looking at whats going on I feel like dudes interview got featured for a reason because he must be someone known and maybe he knows what he is talking about. I feel like there is a silent barrier around 6k where if it goes under that then we might be in a free fall to 5k but if not breaking 6.5 anymore then we can keep going up.

so can you share your analysis in terms of halving?

It will be good if that really happens.
Taking out the small investors when they shake their hands in panic.  ;D
A good buy opportunity for the rest of us who are willing to risk their money in exchange for a higher amount of bitcoin.
I do. I will. Hoarding more of it will mean good in the future when all of a sudden the price pumps again.

Every time we see people say that let bitcoin come down and we shall buy but they never buy and wait for it to be more low value which cannot happen.
Where were all those people when bitcoin was 3K. Why didn't they buy that time ? Those who don't wana buy keep on expecting bitcoin will come again low for them to buy , the cycle keep repeating and they do not buy.

I don't have any specific analysis for the halving, price wise at least*. Predominantly because the event only happened twice, and personally I wait for a third confirmation for a pattern as I follow my own strict statistical theory of: 1 is an anomaly, 2 is coincidence and 3 is a pattern. Especially since the 12 months leading upto the third halving has been very different price action than what we saw the first and second time. Hence I don't have specific analysis published re halving, even if I do have related bull(ish) theories (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209110.msg53330184#msg53330184) of accumulation leading upto the event. That said, I'm also a hypocrite and believe the long-term accumulation zone is between the 2 & 4 Year MAs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206530.msg53247794#msg53247794), although this has only happened twice, so go figure :P

Halving analysis aside, nearly all of my long-term analysis points to the low arriving before May 2020, between $2,500 and $6,500. I think the best way to analysis the halving is how a bottom could be formed around it, leading up to it, or because of it - with time-based analysis - as opposed to price-based. This I haven't done yet but intend to.

*On a personal note, my havling strategy is dollar cost averaging 6-month leading into the halving (Nov 14th 2019 - May 14th 2020), with the intent of continuing for 6-month following the halving (May 14th - Nov 14th 2020), as long as the price isn't capitulating, otherwise I'd be expecting $2,500 (that I give a 2% chance (https://twitter.com/DragonOnRedirec/status/1206893152336011265) of happening for reference sake). This is in addition (and separate) to my price-based averaging between $4,500 and $6,500, meaning that I'm aggressively accumulating right now, as both time and price targets have been met.

Will be good indeed for optimistic investors who are capable of holding and keep their assets inside their wallets. Weak holders will be doomed if they will see that the value will keeps on dropping. There's no way for this people to hold fearing that the entire investment will be washed away. In the meantime, positive investors will keep accumulating in order to hold more and earned lots of benefits.

His speculation could make sense since whales are always there, ready to dump the prices once again before the actual halving. I just thought that he is too pro-Bitcoin. He holds on it to his life, and that could instill bias on his opinions. And although no one could really predict the price trend after the halving, it would most likely to be bullish since it has been observed in the past.

Any price could be possible.
The real problem here is making FUD. It is somehow a strategy of those who are holding bitcoin with large amounts.

Just like this.
You could see that he is still positive with the outcome. Telling strong hands to keep it and the weak to sell it now and buy back at low price.
But we all know that would not happen.

very probably though noone knows about the future. However, as long as ponzi scam projects from China continues to sell off their BTC, it is really hard for us to see the growth of BTC. In my opinion, I also think $5k is the bottom of BTC price, and the whole market will have a massive growth in 2020-2022 the same as what we witnessed from 2015-2017

I don't follow that so called Bitcoin experts and don't stick to what they say. Personally I think people give too much attention to such announcements.
Further corrections of price are possible, that is true however I don't expect that price will fall as low as 5000$. To my opinion it will not go below 6000$ if another correction happens. In opposite case we might even reach 8000$ by the end of the year.

There are many who are waiting for bitcoin to come to 5000$, so that we can buy it. But 7000 USD is proving to be a strong support for bitcoin and seems like our dream for 5000 USD bitcoin will never be a reality.

If you're quoting this guy's TA I'll ask you a question:

Was Tone Vays ever right?

Last year he was predicting the low of 1k. We only touched 3k.
Then when we bounced back he predicted the recovery to 7k, we went to 14k.
Now he was predicting 5k when we were at 8, but we only went down to 6.5k.

I hope it won't be touched, I myself am worried about the decline in bitcoin to $ 5,000,
but some of the traders are certainly happy to see strong support touched

I don't like Tone's predictions because he's too bearish for me but he's still better than some shitcoin propagators like Richard Heart who claim to be objective.

I looked at the chart and we are witnessing a nice pump attempt on Bitcoin. For now it's nothing special but if we could go above 8000 with it we could watch a big breakout in the next few days. Christmas rally anyone?

Last i looked it is a lot closer to 8k then 5k.

Actually, not bad even to see Bitcoin will drop down to $5k again. Besides, we don't have a good start this year, we had $3k last January( correct me if I'm wrong) and even the price will touch to $5k I couldn't think that we've been worried so much. This is all about market volatility, we don't want to turns like that bit we can't hold it. Only I could say, we have to stay positive and look for a better opportunity when the market drop again.

I won't be celebrating until:

1) We breach this yellow downtrend line.
2) We establish a higher high > $10,350 Bitstamp. Until that happens, it's still all lower highs and lower lows.

https://i.imgur.com/Xz31jet.png

The June-December downtrend is potentially over already but we need some proof.

Seems a very strong open right now, see if it holds or fails and disappoints.    Tone has very possibly cursed the bears with his prediction of lower, maybe he knew his power and meant to do it.

https://i.imgur.com/r9b8BsD.png

Above lower fib level, above prior channel down, above moving averages.  Seems its got to be taken as positive right now, short term.  50 day is 7777 i think

Everyone in crypto world is free to give his/her opinion. Tone Vay predicting that because earlier this year bitcoin went down below 4000$ and then came back strongly to 12000$. My friend history of bitcoin not always repeats in same manner. Buy when you think it’s right time to buy and sell when you think you are getting enough profit. I never pay any attention to such predictions.

The resistance at 7000 is proving to be formidable, most likely this has to do with the halving, as soon as the price goes down there are many buyers willing to take the bitcoin out of the hands of those that want to get out of the market, but at the same time the price is finding huge problems to grow, so it seem we are going to be stuck at the current levels for a long time, for traders this is a bad scenario but for investors this is a dream come true, we will be able to buy bitcoin for months for a price that is somewhat stable.

Resistance of bitcoin price between $7000 and $7500 because last three days bitcoin keep stable with above price, for back lower under $5000 I think is not possibility for bitcoin and have resistance keep to higher price again, but in bitcoin everything have chance to be come true where bitcoin suddenly can dump with lower price and have behind to higher price without can't prediction before.

In the last 3 months, there were 41 days when BTC was up in the daily. Out of these 41 days, 25 times BTC went down the next day and 16 times BTC went up the next day, which means that there was 61% chance of BTC going down after an up day. If we extend this analysis to the last 6 months, it evens out more with 85 up days with 48 subsequent down days (56%) and 37 down days (44%).

But history never repeats itself.

Right this moment BTC looks like its making many attempts to break upwards on multiple timeframes.  

https://i.imgur.com/iZxDJdT.png

Its still below some resistance but its also above the 8 day and 30 day averages which means it retains some momentum.   It'll be squeezed between those two paths, to fail the MA or it could be pushed over the line and upwards.  
  Since this is the weekend I'll wait till we hit the first waves on Japanese markets opening which is late Sunday for alot of us.  When we enter the working week I would then take things a bit more seriously and also MA continues no matter what as BTC trading never closes ever.  
  When we have consensus across many timeframes it can be like turning a key in a lock and we proceed from where we were first blocked but thats still a maybe, its just a possible scenario I'm thinking of.   Upwards here would seem to end Vays predictions as many think 2020 is a bullish year.  

I'm noticing price has moved above the 50 Day MA that hasn't happened since October 26th 2019 / $8,900 which is a positive sign.
For me it needs to get above $8,400 and out of the bearish channel, otherwise it's still bearish on Weekly view and merely moving to the anticipated selling target, even if bullish on Daily and lower time-frames. The 200 Day is still up very high around $9,250, not convinced we'll break and stay above that very easy though  :-\
Of course, the bottom could be in, this could be accumulation (I believe it is), or we could go lower.
Same story, different month  :P

It's why we call it speculation, change can happen, but not necessarily. I don't think that Bitcoin's price will go so low, a couple of days ago Bitcoin was under $7,000 for a moment on CMC, but now we are at $7,470. Bitcoin has some bullish momentum, and as we can see the price changed direction and jumped for $500 in a very short period of time. We are running away from $5,000 mark, with big steps.

We hit the open waters of the first main market trading day and its rough weather.   Its a fair bet we pull back from that resistance line seems like :

https://i.imgur.com/9suTiB3g.png

So we are a bit iffy on the 50 day moving average right now and blue line above is the 2 day so its a bit off kilter short term.   I think the last low of 7256 is where (if we make a new low) its looking more bearish beyond the initial shock from cold waves of the week open.   It could easily still beat the 50 day, the weekly bars are more accurate but if it wavers about here its par for the course.

It looks like Bitcoin has returned to very important $7500 support. It is possible that it will stay at this price, but for me it is more likely that we will see another big dump price before the beginning of increases. I don't know if it will fall to $5000, because in my opinion a much lower fall is more likely.

Each downward movements always been a good chance to accumulate and those who understand the benefits are their to harvest all those dumped
coins coming from the weak supporters. If there's no wide support from strong investors then the chance to fall is really possible, make sure to have
enough funds so you won't bothered if ver you are holding your assets best to buy if you have spare money.

After he posted this video I've checked the price if there is an indication that it will go $5000 but there was no indication and on the current price of $7500 right now, there is also no indication that it will go down, although I'm not ruling out a dip because there are unforseeable events that we have no control of, but I don't think it will go down to $500 level.

During the past days we had very positive movement for bitcoin but now we are experimenting a correction, it is interesting to see how low bitcoin will go down this time, even if bitcoin reaches 7500 again this could be the first indication that the bear market in which we have been for months may finally be over, this could mean that during the next months the price could begin to range in preparation for the increase in the price everyone is expecting during the halving.

We're way up consistently for a while now.     Its had alot of momentum since year start and the only faltering I really see is the loss at times of the 2 day average but its kept the weekly average which is the real short term line for a strong positive phase.    Its slightly extended now, it could pull back and still be quite bullish to continue and I have to predict that its going to be attempting the 200 day before any idea of returning to the 50 day to confirm pricing there.  

https://i.imgur.com/iI8Vy9d.png

Here 2 day is blue and orange is a roughly weekly moving average, above there I keep expecting it to in sum total stay positive and repeatedly resolve upwards.

The efficient-market hypothesis seems to have this funny contradictive aspect, that people who don't believe in it are themselves pricing in future events because they believe they still have an edge, while those that do believe in the EMH don't price in events themselves because they believe they can't beat the market in that way.

Anyway, what support levels are you talking about ? $5k levels seem to be far off right now. We just broke out of the channel and are looking for confirmation. But we broke out of the channel on the downside as well without really punctuating it any further. I'm calmly bullish for now without any trade in mind. Just holding.

Nothing is confirmed yet that's all speculations and nothing more no one really knows if bitcoin will go down to that level, but if bitcoin doesn't manage to close its weekly candle in or above the key support then we should expect a bearish movement to occur most likely and the price could dump all the way up to the $5000 levels. It will also act as an opportunity to buy in the lows, however. I wish it drops that much so that i could pick up some cheap corn.

5k is increasingly unlikely.   What I think happened is the same thing as start of 2019 where Tone Vays was correct to some extent in a bearish bias to price but he overcooked it and went a little too negative.
    I'm massively bearish on alot of things, a pessimist, disbelieving every positive trend as lasting, far more negative then I should be while knowing how powerful technology is.    I'm very often wrong in this giant greenhouse constructed to cook every price upwards, made by the FED.   That is dollar inflation and lax standards, this is such a elephant in the room its wonder we manage to ignore it somehow but money has never been as cheap as it is now for many hundreds of years.
  We'd have to go back to some kind Game of Thrones scenario with giant chaos upsetting generations of trade and massive dilution of monetary standards via some vast gold discovery or similar disruption to pricing.  The Spanish conquest and discovery of new gold and silver mines for example or the pilgrimage to Mecca of Mali’s king, Musa I who spent so much of the nations gold in every country he changed prices for generations after.
   We are living in quite unique times I think, not just tech but the change in bias away from FIAT.  So I dont blame Tone Vays, he'd be right under normal lighting but this is a meteor storm in the dead of night and 5k is quite likely wrong.   BTC price has to reverse quite quickly here and fail (false break up perhaps) 200 day average badly to give any credence to this prediction.

certain prices are simply not going to happen under normal circumstances. a price as low as $5k requires a massively horrible thing to happen in bitcoin world for such a drop to happen at this point. something like Coinbase scamming all of its users for example! otherwise we are  currently on a rising momentum that started at the beginning of 2020 and is the continuation of the 2019 bull run that is growing in both speed and size as we get closer to halving and both adoption and hype increases.

it is only a prediction that can be true or false. everything is possible in the bitcoin market. This year there are some bitcoin investors who predict that bitcoin will be reduced by half this year, which will make bitcoin prices go down. but looking at its current development I doubt bitcoin will fall at the price of $ 5k. let's wait what will happen after bitcoin is reduced by half?

I thought the same that Bitcoin price will go down before rising up highly. I have been thinking this since March 2019, but Bitcoin price did not go back to 5K USD yet! As the halving date is coming I don't think BTC will fall down to 5K USD anymore! Maybe the 6800 USD was the bottom to start a new journey to hit a new high!

everyone has their own opinions, their predictions can be right or perhaps can be wrong. If you look at the current price, the price tends to rise slowly, if the price drops maybe it's just a correction. I don't think prices will touch 5000 USD at least before halving takes place, nowadays people are collecting bitcoin as much as they can and this is due to halving wich only 4 months left.

I think it's still very much possible to get to the $5K area, around $5.5K maybe. Less likely now we are above $8K, but still entirely possible (while remaining long-term bullish).

https://i.imgur.com/KdPX9CF.png

We are out of the downwarding channel in the monthly. To reach the $5k area, we would have to break back in to the channel and move all the way down to the bottom of it, and that we have to do in the halving pregnant headline area. Won't happen.

I really hope you're not betting significant money on this $5k idea.

We can see that there are positive moods on the market, but let's not forget that whales do not look at it. If someone with a very big wallet wants to lower the price, then with such low market capitalization, he will easily do it. Also, I don't think we will ever see $5k again, but in my opinion big price drops are still possible.