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Now that the p2pb2b scammers have locked their thread with the same title as this one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205331.0), I guess that means the end of their aims of trying to dupe people here for the foreseeable future.

Their now-locked trash thread did not resolve even one issue, instead they dug a deeper hole for themselves. They were exposed for using stock images and passing them off as their team members  ::)

Their attempts to use a bounty campaign in the hope having their negative Trust removed failed. Their attempts at trying to divide our community failed.

p2pb2b is owned by Ukrainian scammer called Valerii Solodovnyk who has multiple fake exchanges including coinsbit.io: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

Let us hope they do not post in this forum again

BEWARE OF SUPER SCAM: P2PB2B claim to be worlds biggest exchange !: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192497.0



UPDATE: Their locked bounty thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203715.msg53152280#msg53152280


UPDATE: The tweets by Angry Beur have been deleted and his Twitter account closed but here is what was tweeted (https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650)


UPDATE: The Angry Beur Twitter account is back up again: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

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They also locked their bounty campaign thread - total FAIL.....lol

They should have rather accepted being shady and try to prove us that they have become legit somehow. But there core was shady afterall, and they already knew they were fighting a fake fight. Dick Move !

Not sure what their end game was by intending to post in the forum trying to clean their scam from their past but it failed. The scammers were never accepted here.

In the mean time they continue to post fake trading volumes at CMC...  ::)

CMC will report whatever figures these scam exchanges give them & have no shame - it is literally a platform for promoting scams if the bribe is right.

From what I have seen in the past scammers don't really stop not until everyone on their group is behind bars. The exchange P2PB2B as a name might stop but I'm guessing that their scam will run in another name and I'm really sure of that. So don't be surprised if a similar exchange will pop out here with an ANN Thread that has similar offerings as P2PB2B, It will be just our instincts to know who they are.

As ridiculous as it sounds the fact of the matter is there were some users from this forum that were all too happy to provide their services to promote p2pb2b in their bounty campaign.

How was it possible that some of us completely disregarded the disgraceful p2pb2b bounty campaign yet others decided to fall for it? In some cases sure it was clear some users decided go for money even though they knew the p2pb2b background however for those that were not familiar with the history of p2pb2b (or Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk who operates multiple fake exchanges including p2pb2b and coinsbit.io) easily fell for the trap.

Anything related to Valerii Solodovnyk must be avoided: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650 who own various scam exchanges

@AngryBeur has disappeared from Twitter...

Most closely related reason for it would be him being embarrassed of himself looking at the accusations against him on bitcointalk. It looks like an overall community success on bitcointalk towards building more cleaner crypto environment.

Asshole !

I think you have misunderstood the situation.

The user called AngryBeur on Twitter was exposing coinsbit, p2pb2b and all the other scam exchanges operated by Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk.

The fact he is no longer on Twitter is somewhat sad. I hope he will return at some point. Personally, I am grateful for the tweet he made helping let others know about Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk and the scam exchanges he uses as vehicles to steal from people.



Yes he has disappeared from Twitter but here is the post he made which was subsequently widely quoted


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I wonder why he closed his Twitter account

Couldn't have said better! I see CMC as the root cause of all these scummy exchanges and throwaway coins. They will literally put a potato on the market if the price is right. @JollyGood - Good stuff dude. Always been a fan of your investigations.

The last tweets of his that I recall were highly critical of the shitnode called PAC Global (http://pacglobal.io/). Their CEO Drew Saunders answered his (now deleted) criticisms on Twitter here
https://twitter.com/pacnode/status/1202878829057867776

In your screenshot of the now deleted Nov 4th tweet, the hashtag #PACGlobal can be clearly seen, especially in the second tweet


BTW, do you have https://whitebit.com/ listed as a Solodovnyk exchange?
Because...
His Twitter website listing is n-chain.io (https://twitter.com/TripsUA), which is only Host log in. A quick search shows Alexey Kovaliov, CTO at n-chain.io is also Alexey Kovaliov CTO at WhiteBit.

Edited, wrong.

Also  a fake team scam accusation. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4933915.0)

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I notice that, a few minutes before I am posting this, our forum has been hit with a deluge of 160 x spam [ANN] type posts on behalf of PAC Global by a shill account. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1041257)
I have reported them as such, so here's an archive
http://web.archive.org/web/20191216231753/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2110925.msg53365057%23msg53365057

Coincidence?

It seems, now is clear 2b or not 2b dilemma. :D


CMC took money from them for listing, probably he can't delist them so easy.



whitebit.com and xcrypt.pro are produced by the same people as p2pb2...

Thank you for your kind words Joel_Jantsen, it is most appreciated.

I wish I was more active here and being more productive as far as contributing to scam busting is concerned but I have had to take a back seat for the last couple of months because there is a lot happening outside crypto-world for me so I decided to make fewer posts. Hopefully I will start to become more actrive in the scam-busting department soon.

You misunderstand me.
I know that whitebit are obviously part of the P2PB2B/ coinsbit organization (for the reasons I listed above), I was wondering why I hadn't seen them mentioned before as such, although I haven't read every post on the many P2PB2B threads.
xcrypt.pro? If the only proof of them being part of this group is what's mentioned here on Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/dz4snw/i_think_p2pb2b_exchange_scammed_nearly_3000_from/f86sx19/), then I think that's a bit flimsy. Given the absurd hundreds of exchange licences that Estonia has granted in such a short period of time, I'd think it's inevitable that some would use similar web templates and T&C's.
What about Folgory.com (https://twitter.com/Folgory1/status/1202868760849403904), for example?
Which brings me to what I meant when I said

This was in reference to the second part of my post regarding #AngryBeur and Pacnode's forum spam.
#AngryBeur may have disappeared from Twitter, but he seems to be a member on this forum. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1389347)
 
All very curious.

Yes, you are so satisfied with Whitebit that it is the only subject you have ever posted about here.

Excellent post, you picked up on something very strange indeed.

If that user here is the same AngryBeur then why would he delete his Twitter account that was so helpfully exposing Ukrainian exchange multi-scammer Valerii Solodovnyk?

Maybe somebody can shed light on this...

https://twitter.com/PACcoinOfficial/status/1190293442712211457


and other PAC related comments, may make you think like I do; that it's possible that internal changes at PAC got him back onside, and that any criticism of P2P was seen as counterproductive from then on. Idk.

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Timeline:
Dec 16: 172 x spam posts made promoting PAC on BCT (and deleted by mods quite quickly)
Dec 16: Angry Beur twitter account closes
Dec 17: Last (critical) post by Aktarus (AB?) on BCT

All of this adds to the confusion surrounding what is going on. If all these events including the Twitter account being shut down by Angry Beur are connected, then it could mean several things including the possibilities that Angry Beur was threatened in to silence or was paid to go silent, or maybe something else.

From what I recall about reading his Tweets he was not an ex-member of a team or project and he was not out to make Tweets in revenge so this situation is very confusing. He did link all the Valerii Solodovnyk related scam exchanges together and Tweet about them but from the other activity on his Twitter account it did not seem because he was a disgruntled ex-employee, most of his activity seemed to be non-crypto related.

Maybe some information might be posted in the coming days that can shed more light on this.

Another Estonian crypto exchange that has come to my notice is infinances.com. (http://infinances.com.)

They claim

They give their company information as
That is the same address and the same company registration number as Whitebit, which is shown above to be a Solodovnyk enterprise.

Infinances came to my notice on Twitter (https://twitter.com/factcheckmypost/status/1209934652200366082/photo/1), where a hitherto reliable source claims a user has been threatened by Infinances, with his personal details, obtained thru KYC, being put into "bad hands" if he does not drop his complaint, leading to him "losing a lot of money".




 

This Solodovnyk guy seems to be creating a scam a week....

https://prntscr.com/qgfkmw    :o ;D ;) scamers 

He seems to be involved in many crypto related scams all using fake exchanges

As much as i want to give Solodovnyk credit for Infinances i think it's not one of theirs.

It looks like a clone exchange of Whitebit, like Aerochange, Bitegt, Avrobit, Egtbit etc...screenshot provided by vantim1989 pretty much confirms it.

Fake exchanges where you receive a promo code and then your account is being frozen until you deposit 0.01 BTC.

I think we had a mega-thread in Scam Accusations but i can't find it, their topics look like this: FREE 0.02 BTC! (http://archive.md/ut6ma) and HOW TO GET EASY (0.005 BTC) (http://archive.md/dFFBE)

People behind P2PB2B would make x10000 more money by reporting fake volumes than occasionally scamming noobs on discord for 0.01...just my opinion.

I would not put it past Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk to use Telegram or Discord to dupe investors out of 0.01 BTC but it does seem highly unlikely. They seems happy to scam investors by having fake IEOs on their platform which would bring them a far bigger and regular income.

I seriously thought they want to repair their image when they opened a thread here and supposedly resolve their issues. But to no avail, they couldn't resolve any. I hope traders or users stop using their exchange. Or maybe, they will create more fake volume to be on top???

I think the thread you are looking for is this: New scam schema on the forum - Free Money To Test Casinos  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5081286.0). At first it was casinos then they shifted their attention to fake exchanges too.

Looking at the message, and the way the talk of free BTC. It could be the same scammers behind infinances.com too.

There is a link between Whitebit and P2P, via Solodovnyk, in the names Alexey Kovaliov and Glib Ushakov.
Solodovnyk's Twitter website link is n-chain.io (https://twitter.com/TripsUA), a Kyiv company called Next Chain (https://www.linkedin.com/company/next-chain), an Information Technology and Services company with supposedly 11-50 employees and scant information about its activities.
Next Chain's CEO is Glib Ushakov (https://www.linkedin.com/in/glib-ushakov?trk=org-employees_profile-result-card_result-card_full-click) who also lists himself as CFO of Whitebit.
Alexey Kovaliov is listed as CTO at n-chain.io  (https://www.google.com/search?q=Alexey+Kovaliov%2C+CTO+at+n-chain.io&rlz=1C1CHFX_enGB506GB506&oq=Alexey+Kovaliov%2C+CTO+at+n-chain.io&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8); the first result in that search directs to a page identifying him as CTO of Whitebit. (https://djinni.co/r/33504-cto-at-whitebit/)
Which begs the question, why would Solodovnyk link to a Ukrainian site, which shares top management with Whitebit, unless he had some financial interest in it?

I guess the next question is whether infinances is a drive by clone of Whitebit, or part of their organization?

infinances.com is now flagged by Cloudflare as a suspected phishing site (http://infinances.com./).
There is a Kyiv based company (https://www.apollo.io/companies/INFINANCE/556d2eaf736964120818a600?chart=count) involved in banking and IT-technology called infinance but their .ua site is 404.
And that's about it, so I guess there is nothing I can find that shows that Whitebit knows of infinances existence.

Their intent was to simply use bounty as a bribe to divide the community and hoped those participating in the bounty/bribe campaign would remove previous negative Trust and feedback but thankfully they failed on both counts.

The forum users did not let the p2pb2b scammers (Valerii Solodovnyk and his cronies) to divide and succeed. Well done to our community.

One interesting possibility to disrupt (albeit for a short time only) is to report their websites and activities to Cloudflare or any other CDN provider these scammers might use because they would not want their brand to be seen as complicit in any scam (or alleged scam).

The other thing is to maintain a campaign of mentioning their scams to alert any potential victim to stay well away from them.

It seems he is back:

https://twitter.com/AngryBeur
https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

Probably temporarily suspended by Twitter because of many reports.

He seems to be talking about scams more than anything else, I doubt Twitter banned him. Something else must have happened.

They're back:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205331.msg53564302#msg53564302

What a joke outfit. They must be getting desperate.

yes, they do not give up  :o
Also, KYC it became a mandatory process for them. I guess comply with the law.

https://twitter.com/p2pb2b/status/1214919867679281152?s=20

Crazy right? Nobody in their right mind would/should give a company their personal details when the company themselves are using fake team members.

Now, i guess P2PB2B team members have started expanding their business over LinkedIn.  ;D I recieved a message from one of their team on my LinkedIn account. Quoting the screenshot below. I hope not many peoples fall for this after knowing it is a scam exchange. At first even i thought it is amongst the reputable one as identifying a scam exchange is getting tougher these days but thanks to the reputation board as it exposes such scammers.

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I am even doubting if this individual named "Max Rebane" is a real one or just using a fake identity?

It's a fake identity, they stole it from the web as I pointed out previously:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205331.msg53321103#msg53321103

So are the others that are/were on their website. Dimitrius:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205331.msg53322716#msg53322716

I see they have removed one of the fake profiles from their website though - luckily I archived it:

https://archive.is/h2geC

Alex, Head of Partnerships was actually a guy called Egor Padalkin (Eгop Пaдaлкин):

https://topdb.ru/egorpadalkin
https://yandex.com/images/search?text=%D0%95%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%20%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD

Again, they simply stole his ID from the web. Nothing is legit about this scammy outfit - everything is either fake or a lie.

Here is also original source. We can't trust you and discuss in the thread under your management. I hope you can understand why.
It is not a game to play it when you want.

LULZ.  Not. A. Chance.

The only spam on your thread was coming from you, before you locked it - that was a dick move.

Congrats on the YouTube fame BTW:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv8TBQg2iFc&feature=youtu.be&t=205

Over 18,000 views....nice.

I am unsure as to exactly why they keep using this forum to try to fool more users when all they do is make a fool of themselves.

Hopefully all of the exchanges owned/operated by Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk will be shut down after they are raided by the law enforcement agencies

I hope this exchange called p2pb2b will finally be dealt with, i pity many new projects who used such exchange to raise fund because it was rated as a top exchange not knowing its all fake

People who use such exchanges without doing any background checks are also to blame. They keep falling for such scam traps and that keeps the scammers in the game. If people were more careful enough, do due diligence and ignore using p2pb2b completely, it would eventually die out.

These types of fake exchanges are scamming on multiple fronts.

Among their conduct they send fake data to CMC and others which makes it impossible to calculate real BTC value and they also use fake data statistics to charge around $100,000 to list coins and tokens.

Add to that the number of fake exchanges they operate then the damage they are causing to crypto becomes clear.

I think it is necessary to look with special care at the exchanges licensed by the country of Estonia, and it is best to bypass it. Since it seems she does not conduct any checks, and also does not bear any responsibility for the fact that she issued a license to the company where literally everything is faked.

Add StrainBIT to the list, same claims word for word and same address. Dont fall for this bs guys!

Even though p2pb2b is a scam, my understanding is that company based in Estonia that owns p2pb2b is portraying itself as a genuine company.

Here is a link: https://www.e-krediidiinfo.ee/14572266-PARTIDA%20SERVICES%20O%C3%9C

the fact is they are failing are there is nothing impressive about having a 2500EUR capital and not have anything of substance to show such as number of employees

I mean think about it, their listed company email address is:  partida.company@gmail.com

They did not even manage to get a professional email address for a company that claims to have a trading volume of over $600 billion in crypto every year

I don’t understand how it is possible to establish a registered capital of 2,500 euros for a stock exchange, where a deposit of one user can exceed the authorized capital ten times? If a similar practice is used in Estonia, I repeat once again that you need to bypass all exchanges registered in this country. If this is applied everywhere around the world - to hell with such exchanges, and certainly you should not store your assets there

Several scam exchanges are registered in Estonia. The scammers advertise their exchange as based in EU when they are just sitting at home probably operating from their sofa.

Looking at their figures clearly shows the people behind p2pb2b and coinsbit etc are compulsive liars. They do not trade billions of USD$ every hour and there is no real exchange at p2pb2b

I see that you want to have a dialogue. So write in this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205331

It was created specifically to handle such complaints.

I see you are trying to BS your way out of your lies again - please do so in this thread so that you can't lock it again when hard proof is provided.

This thread was created specifically to handle your censorship of the truth.

If you were careful, you would notice that we paused thread for winter holydays. And we wrote that we will continue after that holidays. And we returned, as promised. In the end, you can always come back here.

For now I recommend to write here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205331.msg53204675#msg53204675

Absolutely despicable conduct from  the representative of p2pb2b scammers ::)

I am so happy other exchanges operated by Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk are being exposed too: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650


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Right, sooo....


Did you lose track of your own lies again?....

Every time you post something you dig yourself a bigger hole, lie after lie.

It's funny. Don't stop.

so the statement nothing in common with coinsbit was a lie! lol
they admitted that at one point, both were developed by one team. i dont think that team has nothing to do anymore with both exchanges.
guess, its not yet the time for p2pb2b to redeem themselves.
they couldnt even have their campaign push thru in this forum. maybe one thing they can do, is stop the very obvious fake trading on their platform. or maybe lessen it at least...huh!

The common theme between all those scam exchanges is Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk. Multiple scam exchanges, multiple lies being told to the forum users then they forget which lies they told and get caught out.

Shameful

Dude, looking at your post history it's obvious you're a shill account for p2pb2b/Pacglobal scammers with your copy/paste shitposting - don't you got no brainz?

Reported, tagged & ignored. Dipsh*t.

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So p2pb2b scammers claim to be trading MORE of the BNB that Binance created and is trading on their own platform... another pathetic claim by these scammers

Looks like mods have deleted most of this shill accounts posts defending p2pb2b scammers - nice that mods reacted so quickly. I actually tagged the account last year for shitposting/spamming about PACGlobal, not realising that it was connected to p2pb2b at the time. I guess we should be thankful he posted though in a way, because it proves that PACGlobal & p2pb2b are either the same group or part of the same group of scammers & that the twitter account @Angrybeur was 100% correct in his statement.

Things must be pretty grim for p2pb2b right now if they have to stoop so low as using sock puppet accounts to post BS about themselves. This is good & the BCT community should give itself a pat on the back for what they are doing here.

I see they try posting on their own thread now & then with yet more excuses, but still refuse to address the facts, ie: massive fake volume, fake photos, ripped off customers, lies, etc, etc. Until they actually address these important issues the community should keep up the pressure on them until they fade away & die from here entirely.

Their user name pops up in the forum from time to time trying to portray p2pb2b as a bonafide project but when they get the reception they deserve they leave the forum again.

You are right things are probably not looking good for the p2pb2b scammers hence their attempts to try to salvage whatever they can of their trash reputation. I hope the website gets shut down by the authorities along with coinsbit, exrates, whitebit and everything else these scammers are associated with.

They are back, this time it's maticBIT (maticbit.com).

Same MO, Discord promo codes, you enter the code and you get BTC "credited", then you have to deposit 0.05BTC to withdraw.

https://i.ibb.co/kgt77cc/Screenshot-2.png
https://i.ibb.co/nrggv9V/Screenshot-3.png

Who is back? How they "maticbit" are related to p2pb2b?
by the second screenshot, it seems they use similar exchange software, but it is not real proof. If you know something more, can you share it with us?

I made a similar mistake/assumption here with a site called infinances.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209604.20

I think this maticBIt is a scam clone of the P2PB2B/Whitebit bunch of sites and, if the infinances scenario plays out, then maticBIT will end up a phishing site.

Just a follow-up on this comment - the scammers have now removed all their fake identities from their website, their "team" is no longer listed.

It does seem from the layout of certain things related to the website that the same scammers are operating this too.

Having said that was there ever concrete evidence of maticbit.com being operated by the p2pb2b/coinsbit/whitebit/extrates scammers?

https://ibb.co/pXwdkN1
-> message in Discord, winning 0.69 BTC, name: slibit.com


https://ibb.co/DRZ82yc
-> whitebit vs slibit

Hi all,
New here, made an account to inform you all of the latest of their line of scam sites: https://tylobit.com
Same MO, discord message with a code for 0.55BTC but ofc you have to pay some BTC to get it out... Shameful.

It's all well done though, nice website, support team that answers quickly and quite professionally... They fooled me into giving 0.0045BTC, ah well.

So yeah, TYLOBIT.COM is another one for the record.
I came across this thread via their "company number" or "register code" 14637422
Full "about us" section is:
tyloBIT Financial Company OÜ Sepise tn 1 Lasnamäe linnaosa, Tallinn Harju maakond 11415. Register code: 14637422

slibit.com that was mentioned here has the exact same website.

Hello to any that read this, I've decided to post this since I have yet to see this site be mentioned. I was approached via Discord DM some user saying that I won some giveaway. They advertised a site called homyBIT (https://homybit.com/en)

Based on the list of things that scam sites mention from tmfb (i.e. ...group of professionals..., ...95% currency stored in cold wallets... etc.), and that the domain name of the site was created merely 5 days ago (according to IsLegitSite as of the time I am writing this post), I have come to the conclusion that this site is most definitely a scam.

Additionally, under About Us is: homyBIT Financial Company OÜ Sepise tn 1 Lasnamäe linnaosa, Tallinn Harju maakond 11415, with a Register Code of 14637422, and the website looks nearly identical to the slibit.com website.

How is this related to p2pb2b? Can you give us more details about the connection between p2pb2b owners and homybit also? On this way, you only dilute the whole thing about p2pb2b accusations legitimacy.
Someone develop exchange script and resell it to p2pb2b owners if you find it on some other places, very possible that someone also buys the same script. it does not mean by default that this new exchange is also from p2pb2b kitchen.
Better open new scam accusation topic, there will be more people in discussion and it will more effective.

It's not just "the script", but the whole shebang though. Same MO, same site, same info, same everything really.

When I say same script, I mean when you use identical software like many other people, you have an almost identical interface, identical content etc... Someone tries to make small changes to make something different.
certainly, I believe this application/software is available to anyone, so it can be 100% connection with other users.

Hi. Don't bother to duplicate old topics. If you have constructive complaints, write to the topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205331.0.

If not, please keep out from creating useless posts.

Go back and crawl under the rock you just poked your ugly head out from.

Recently I was passing by a crowd of teenagers, they communicate among themselves in a similar manner. Weren't you there?

No I was not there.

When is Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk going to start posting on all his scam exchanges that Estonian government kicked them out and withdrew their licence  ;D


https://i.postimg.cc/rss0NSdf/coinsbit-p2pb2b-scam.jpg

Your history here, your reputation, the manner how you treat your customers, cannot justify such an attitude. In this case, you are still scammers with many unethical manners.
I still not read anything from you, about fake trading volume, about a fake London office, fake team... You point us to a thread where you tried to give a new name for fraud and name it as a misunderstanding.
Better start resolving your customer's problem, rather than get into an argument and insult with other members of the forum.

He received a well-deserved answer.

This is adequate manera of communication?👇


I dont think so. And all adequate people will say the same. However this "person" have positive trust. At least  the "person" with such thoughts should not be allowed to communicate with other people. This leads to the fact that he received positive feedbacks only for wittiness. Accordingly, his trust is valueless and under the question. His aspirations is temporary and will disappear. In contrast, the P2PB2B will function for a long time.

Just watch for this situation longer, and you will see.

Why do you think so? There are logical answers for this. Let's continue our conversation in the topic. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205331.0