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Title: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: CoinLearn on March 18, 2014, 02:05:29 PM

Source: http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/17/dorian-satoshi-nakamoto-denies-having-created-bitcoin-says-hes-not-been-coding-for-over-a-decade/



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Title: Re: Dorian sent legal letter to Newsweek
Post by: bitcoinnewshk on March 18, 2014, 02:12:26 PM
It is really bad to affect his family.  >:(


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: indeed on March 18, 2014, 03:01:57 PM
I think it's time the very thing that has caused disruption in this mans life should come full circle and help him. If we could setup or arrange a legitimate btc account for this guy, would be nice if the community would throw a bunch of btc at him for his troubles. I know I would.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: Rannasha on March 18, 2014, 03:06:38 PM
I think it's time the very thing that has caused disruption in this mans life should come full circle and help him. If we could setup or arrange a legitimate btc account for this guy, would be nice if the community would throw a bunch of btc at him for his troubles. I know I would.

You mean the fundraiser by Andreas M. Antonopolous that has already gathered 46 BTC?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ztjmg/andreas_im_fundraising_for_dorian_nakamoto/


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: Predatorian on March 18, 2014, 03:07:32 PM
That was really sucks what newsweek done with this poor guy, i hope they gonna give him some recompensation and clear he's name etc.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: BitCoinDream on March 18, 2014, 07:04:07 PM
Sorry for not going by the trend of denying Dorian to be Satoshi. Me too is a supporter of Satoshi staying anonymous. But a Q is haunting me...

Dorian claims he had to cut off internet for financial condition. But then, how did he continue his train collecting passion, where he has to import it from different country ?


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: Rannasha on March 18, 2014, 07:11:26 PM
Sorry for not going by the trend of denying Dorian to be Satoshi. Me too is a supporter of Satoshi staying anonymous. But a Q is haunting me...

Dorian claims he had to cut off internet for financial condition. But then, how did he continue his train collecting passion, where he has to import it from different country ?
Public libraries, places with free wifi, internet cafes, ...

Plenty of options that are cheaper for occasional internet access than having a fixed line.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: BitCoinDream on March 18, 2014, 08:28:09 PM
Newsweek has responded...

Quote
Newsweek has not received any statement or letter from either Mr. Nakamoto or his legal counsel. If and when we do, we will respond as necessary.

Source: https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/445606231479025665


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: natoshisakamoto on March 18, 2014, 08:51:14 PM
In a way, the Blockchain is like a train that keeps adding cars, each one filled with a set of transactions.

Not saying Dorian invented it (I'm on the fence), but thinking about model trains has helped me imagine how someone might approach inventing something like the Blockchain.

Out of curiosity, if he's lying about not being involved (hypothetically speaking), are there any legal repercussions for him making a public statement that is completely deceptive?

Seems like someone could deny something without technically breaking the law, so I'm not convinced by the legal letter, by itself, although some of the other arguments showing why he's not the guy (like Mike Hearn's post) are very convincing.

Also, everyone seems to assume that it's a binary question, that Dorian either WAS or WASN'T Satoshi, but it seems very possible to me that SN was a cadre of people working on the issue, and Dorian was just one member of a team of people.

Personally, if I was the guy who invented it, I'd very much like to have someone else write the paper!


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on March 18, 2014, 08:52:22 PM
Air Traffic Control programmer, so he has the skills.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: Coinster on March 18, 2014, 09:06:14 PM
Out of curiosity, if he's lying about not being involved (hypothetically speaking), are there any legal repercussions for him making a public statement that is completely deceptive?

I asked myself that same thing! I'm not a lawyer but I don't think there can be any legal repercussion.

To get in trouble for blatantly lying in public, when not under oath, it has to affect someone else directly. So, for example, you can't commit libel/slander which is defamation of someone (actually might apply to Newsweek against Dorian).


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: BitCoinDream on March 19, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
What is most disturbing here is that this identity confusion has disturbed his personal life.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: ov on March 19, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
I thought everybody already agreed it was Nick Szabo. When did this change? What is Nick's initials backwards?


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: natoshisakamoto on March 19, 2014, 03:29:57 PM
Maybe I'm an optimist, but I feel that in the long run, this will be a positive thing for Dorian.

It's clear he's had some tension in his life, and some difficulty relating to people, and now he has a community of thousands of people that have affection for him, regardless of whether he's the "real Satoshi" or not.

The positive vibes of thousands of people being directed at a man with a difficult life can't help but be a good thing, in the long run, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: BitCoinDream on March 19, 2014, 03:36:07 PM
Maybe I'm an optimist, but I feel that in the long run, this will be a positive thing for Dorian.

It's clear he's had some tension in his life, and some difficulty relating to people, and now he has a community of thousands of people that have affection for him, regardless of whether he's the "real Satoshi" or not.

The positive vibes of thousands of people being directed at a man with a difficult life can't help but be a good thing, in the long run, in my opinion.

This is reality. I wish the donations actually reaches his hand and he actually accepts them !!!


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: CoinLearn on March 20, 2014, 03:08:52 PM
Newsweek has now moved their eye from Satoshi to Malaysian flight.

https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/446648821804580864

Seems controversy is what they like...


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: freequant on March 20, 2014, 03:25:40 PM
Out of curiosity, if he's lying about not being involved (hypothetically speaking), are there any legal repercussions for him making a public statement that is completely deceptive?

I asked myself that same thing! I'm not a lawyer but I don't think there can be any legal repercussion.

To get in trouble for blatantly lying in public, when not under oath, it has to affect someone else directly. So, for example, you can't commit libel/slander which is defamation of someone (actually might apply to Newsweek against Dorian).
Politicians are lying all day long, and they are doing just fine.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: ryanmnercer on March 20, 2014, 03:42:05 PM
It's. Not. Him. I don't know why people keep talking about it, the dude just wants to get back to his life so honor that and stop bringing him up.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: Jcw188 on March 20, 2014, 03:56:56 PM
Newsweek has apparently gone the way of US Magazine and the Enquirer etc.    I haven't read the Newsweek article but I see he has legal counsel.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him sue Newsweek particularly if it really has hurt his job search.  However 46 Bitcoin may help him find a little light from his experience!


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: Lethn on March 20, 2014, 04:47:38 PM
Newsweek has responded...

Quote
Newsweek has not received any statement or letter from either Mr. Nakamoto or his legal counsel. If and when we do, we will respond as necessary.

Source: https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/445606231479025665

If this isn't prove that these guys are total cunts I don't know what is, the least they could do is apologise, but I suspect they're another of these news organisations that think they're doing 'gods' work by stalking and harassing people.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: 600watt on March 20, 2014, 08:45:21 PM
Newsweek has now moved their eye from Satoshi to Malaysian flight.

https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/446648821804580864

Seems controversy is what they like...


newsweek uncovered the missing plane !


http://www.globalpost.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/gp3_small_article/photos/2014-March/mh370_hide_radar_sia68.jpg



Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: leopard2 on March 20, 2014, 09:45:12 PM
He should invest the 46 btc into sueing Newsweek for a million

Assholes...

But how this publicity is bad for him finding a job is beyond me, should it not be helpful?


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: BitCoinDream on March 21, 2014, 02:08:39 PM
He should invest the 46 btc into sueing Newsweek for a million

Assholes...

But how this publicity is bad for him finding a job is beyond me, should it not be helpful?

Corporations generally avoid controversial characters like plague, e.g. no media will ever recruit Salman Rushdie.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: activebiz on March 21, 2014, 02:23:16 PM
So his actually a programmer!
I think satoshi is v.smart to stay anonymous.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: BitCoinDream on March 22, 2014, 10:00:02 AM
Newsweek has now moved their eye from Satoshi to Malaysian flight.

https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/446648821804580864

Seems controversy is what they like...


newsweek uncovered the missing plane !


http://www.globalpost.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/gp3_small_article/photos/2014-March/mh370_hide_radar_sia68.jpg



This is awesome ...where is it ?


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: BitCoinDream on March 24, 2014, 09:20:59 PM
Seems like MH370 was down to Indian Ocean !!! Newsweek was right :o

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjhdVpOCEAAhqr-.jpg:large


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: joninoakland on March 25, 2014, 07:37:36 AM
Sorry for not going by the trend of denying Dorian to be Satoshi. Me too is a supporter of Satoshi staying anonymous. But a Q is haunting me...

Dorian claims he had to cut off internet for financial condition. But then, how did he continue his train collecting passion, where he has to import it from different country ?

They're called paper catalogs.  They still exist.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: BitCoinDream on March 25, 2014, 09:19:09 AM
Sorry for not going by the trend of denying Dorian to be Satoshi. Me too is a supporter of Satoshi staying anonymous. But a Q is haunting me...

Dorian claims he had to cut off internet for financial condition. But then, how did he continue his train collecting passion, where he has to import it from different country ?

They're called paper catalogs.  They still exist.

AFAIK he collected real model trains, not paper catalogs.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: joninoakland on March 25, 2014, 04:41:29 PM
Sorry for not going by the trend of denying Dorian to be Satoshi. Me too is a supporter of Satoshi staying anonymous. But a Q is haunting me...

Dorian claims he had to cut off internet for financial condition. But then, how did he continue his train collecting passion, where he has to import it from different country ?

They're called paper catalogs.  They still exist.

AFAIK he collected real model trains, not paper catalogs.

No, thats perhaps how he bought the trains.  This is how the world worked 10-15 years ago.  You purchased things via catalogs and the telephone.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: Ytterbium on April 03, 2014, 05:49:28 PM
Air Traffic Control programmer, so he has the skills.

Not really, creating bitcoin is way beyond what the typical programmer is capable of.


Title: Re: Dorian's legal statement regarding Newsweek report of being Satoshi
Post by: BitCoinDream on April 03, 2014, 10:38:07 PM
Air Traffic Control programmer, so he has the skills.

Not really, creating bitcoin is way beyond what the typical programmer is capable of.

How do u know Dorian was a typical programmer ?  ;)