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The crypto industries and communities has been quite expecting the upcoming bitcoin halving with much hope of another bull run coming up after the bull run failed in 2018 through 2019 now we all looking at the 2020 with the halving as an excuse to trigger the bulls to start running 🏃.

I personally is not putting much expectations on this, no one should fall for the hype. After what happened to the litecoin halving this year, I Don't expect too much from bitcoin.

Too many eyes on bitcoin now, too many interests are more reason why you shouldn't expect so much from the next halving. There will definitely be a bullish move but not as much as we anticipate or what most analysts has predicted.

The next bull run will come unexpectedly all you need to do is stay focused.

2020 is 2 days away trade and invest wisely. 2018 was hell to many investors don't be part of the sad story next year.

Happy new year in advance

If you do not put your hopes in 2020 then I am here to put my full hopes in 2020 I want the bullrun to come back like in 2017, yes indeed what we hope for is after halving because there are many people assume bullrun will occur, although that is uncertain because indeed prices are still fluctuating and in technical analysis will be heading for a new ATH.
Hopefully that happens, if it really happens there will be more investors about bitcoin.

Just keep optimistic, and be sure after bitcoin halving, the trend should be controlled by a bull. 2017 is paradise for investors and in 2018 on the contrary, bitcoin is an asset with high volatility, so bitcoin surpasses or makes a new ATH is not impossible. Stick to your opinions, and be careful about money.

~Dyor

I have not enough hope for 2020,like 2017. But I hope for 2021.In 2020 btc price will rise.I think we can see bull run like 2017 in 2021.And I am waiting for it.God knows what will happen in future.   

LTC increased from $20 to $140 this year. Is that a little? And halving was the most important factor in this increase.
https://i.imgur.com/CcbMYas.jpg?1

Obviously, we do not have the ability to know the outcome in advance. But if we do not evaluate news like halving, what should we do with the others?

I dont put that much expectation for bullrun because if it doesnt happen to my desired date i will just be disappointed, better off without that expectation, although a bullrun happens every halving it's safe to say a bullrun will happen at 2020 (just by graphs), but don't put expectation or you'll be dissapointed. Better to get more coins before the possible upcoming bullrun.

I don't understand why we should think about 2017 pump, that time there was no halving but price was running. Next year will be halving time after that market will be ok slowly as history. I mean this effect of Bitcoin halving we will see after 1-1.5 years. Bitcoin price will be more than 2017 after 2020.

We can't also expect that what will happen in 2017 will also happen after the halving of 2016 to 2020 to 2021 pump as many aspects change and modified now. Before there are no big restrictions attached in crypto in different countries many are free to buy and trade unlike now that many bans it or not allowed to use exchanges. We will soon to see if ever history repeats itself once bull run really happen.

I don't think there will be a bull run in 2020, it just Bitcoin halving will happen, and history says halving effect will start after a year of halving date, it means we may see the Bitcoin bull run in 2021, not in 2020. But for the hype, BTC price may hit 15K USD in the next year, which will be more than okay to me. I don't want another pump and dump scheme like 2017, I want to see strong organic growth for Bitcoin price which will stay longer times.

I think this may be the last time we see the price of bitcoin this low. when Bitcoin halving is near, more people will convert their Altcoins to BTC to ride this thing called bull run. to be able to get some profits on this coming bull run, you need to invest in bitcoin wisely just before the price pump next year, make sure you already buy Bitcoin from as low as $6000-7000.

We will not see the regular bull run that accompanies most bitcoin halvings for the past years. Surely the price of bitcoin is going to increase but we are not going to see any huge increase in price to some insane figures that some technical analyst are saying. My prediction of the price of bitcoin after halving will not be higher than $15K.  ;D

I still have hope on the price of bitcoin because I know somewhere in the year 2020 bitcoin will hit again the 20,000$. We do not know that year that bull run will appear but most of the prediction about it is around 2020-2021 so maybe we just need to wait. Just like what others here just stay positive and keep on holding bitcoin.

If we're careful about the management of our money, don't think about bullrun. Always take the opportunity of halving along with the growth of btc price, and contrary with possible bullrun; the outcome will be most awaited.

Bullrun in 2020 will not be significant maybe it will be above $ 10000 because it takes a long process to reach the new ATH, my opinion.
I also hope that the price of bitcoin is more stable at the price of $ 10,000 and above for me is enough and will affect the price of other coins as well, halving will happen anyway whether there will be a good pump? while the market price is still like this so we just wait for the right time and the bullrun will occur but does not reach ATH.
Many say that experts in 2021 are moments when the price of bitcoin soared above $ 50k, actually I don't believe that.

Could you mind to move this thread to the correct board, Bitcoin Discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=1.0)

Halving event, this issue has been discussed so much privously. I'll pick some thread as an example

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186276.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148536.0
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205014.0

You can try to read some of them and I'll be sure you'll find the answer.

Totally right! One should be conservative on what's gonna happen. Do not rely on the upcoming halving about your current decisions towards crypto. Life goes on even without this halving and optimize your opportunities that surround within you.

It is what we are all hoping for let there be bull run and make the price so high again.
This is what we are waiting since the price started to fall down in December 2017.
But we all know that it would be hard to reach another ATH but at least reach near the ATH price.

Yes, we hope that this halving will give a huge increase in the price of bitcoin, just like what happens to LTC.
This is the most awaited thing to come and next year might probably the best year for crypto.
It will be hard to reach another ATH, but there is no impossible for bitcoin, it might make another history that we have never expect.

yeah right, bullrun can come at any time depending on investors so in my opinion news about bitcoin is just a way to call investors we don't know whether investors are interested or not so don't focus too much on news about bitcoin

It's reasonable to conclude the halvening can affect price. basic on supply and demand. but we can not put a exactly time prediction on it. However, I believe 2-4 months leading up to the halving we will see a slight bull run in anticipation of the halving. the actual halving will be uneventful, and then 4-8 months later we should see the effects of the halving affecting the price upwards as miners need to sell to offset costs and less bitcoin is being circulated into the crypto market, because I think miners have enough reserves and forward contracts on energy etc for 4-8 months. but after these come to close and need renewing the price starts to catch up.

I am in the crypto market for three years and there is bull run every year. The only problem I see is that most of us are not willing to buy when the market is down rather we are busy cursing the market and spreading negative news about the future of crypto. If you buy when the market is down you will definitely get in chance in the coming months to sell at high.

People want to believe in bull run but nobody knows is it going to happen or not

Yes nobody knows if bull run will happen again especially that bitcoin price now is unpredictable.

2020 Bitcoin price is unpredictable and i think like you said i dont expect more big price jump because many investors will secure thier profit when they see price increase.  And for me bitcoin halving will not give more effect on price especially now that bitcoin is manipulated by big whales.  

Many litecoin holders had been disappointed when the halving didn't start the bullrun of the coin. I was expecting price to at least jump 2x after halving but its price instead dip lower. It was funny losing money instead when you expect to double the funds you think will be an easy profit. I don't know if the disappointment will be inherited by BTC halving but there weren't much option for traders though but to keep expecting. If its going to have a bullrun this year then be it.

In fact, many people still expect about the bullrun after Bitcoin halving next year although previously, LTC halving is not as good as what we expected. However, in my opinion, BTC and LTC are quite different. BTC, most people trust this coin to pump again likely in 2017, or even more, higher.

I also think so, I do not put my high expectations to meet bullrun in 2020. Does 2020 become the starting year for bullrun? I mean that the bullrun may not be in 2020, but a year after it. For, 2020 may be the year for market recovery again?

I have high hopes in 2020 but hitting the bull run next year is not one of them. I am expecting to have a lot of price movement because of halving expectations but I expect the real bull run to begin in 2021. There will plenty of opportunity to earn and accumulate before it starts.

even if you will not expect bull run in 2020 there will be a price correction after halving
the price always rises during halving because of the decrease in block rewards

I think Litecoin lost its steam after Charlie Lee sold all his positions. Selling it to focus on its development is a vague reasoning imo. Because for me, I would be holding more if I am very confident on myself and my team.

So yes, I don't think that Bitcoin halving will be the same with Litecoin. Not that I am also expecting too much on Bitcoin but I just think it will increase and won't fall like Litecoin.

And that's a fact. People are expecting too much this upcoming halving just because the biggest bullrun ever happened because of the hype of the halving. There's just too much happened this past few years and I don't think there will be enough money or investment in the whole cryptocurrency to get that all-time high again. Too much scams and frauds happened last year and this year which I think reduced the overall investors. Too little time had past since then so I think we'll need a little bit more patience for Bitcoin to increase in price again.

It also needs strong support from the community. And accumulations will take the time that is why we can't perfectly see its pumps instantly once halving done. If there is a possible Bullrun, most likely we gonna see it in the 3rd quarter. Not really sure but most previous halving effect will be shown at that time.

Every bitcoin halving till date has seen a rise in price of bitcoin and every bull run of bitcoin has caused a similar trend into altcoins.
So, there's no reason to doubt about this one. Though there might be whales and margin traders involved in creating a different scenario, it would be really hard to stop the bull. Investors are waiting for it for years.

FOMOs   ;D . Better yet stay away with such attitude people, and let yourself be more interested in crypto not because with the current hype but because you are really interested in it.

Halving is near but bullrun may take out too lately than they already thought. Because looking back upon the last halving which happened last 2016, bullrun starts to occur late on 2017, and majority are saying that it is because of halving while others have their particular conspiracies so, although we specifically have no idea what was the real reason behind. Still we must be aware of the market current condition not because of halving hype but because bullrun sometimes happened randomly.

Bitcoin halved twice in the past and the effect of the reduce in supply in addition to increase demand led to bullish market as at the time. Now, bitcoin will halve in May and many people will buy bitcoin. Altcoin price also did increased during this time in past, so people will buy altcoin as well. All these will cause bull run again in 2020. I have saved enough bitcoin and altcoin for this. Let us expect that it is imminent that bitcoin price will double again while altcoin may even triple next year or in 2021.

Don't assume that if one good news would happen it can cause a suddenly bull run because sometimes there are some scenario that it would not success and there are not much investor would be joined.

I think it would affect the price but not like a bull run.

2018 and 2019 are big learning experience to all of us here, and 2020 because of the halving can give us hope, and hopefully, it's not going to be false hope, but we should not only rely on halving, there should be a series of good news and many people are coming in to invest, for us to see the price, without it, it will just become another halving.

The year 2020 is one so many are waiting for because of the bitcoin halving, I think this will generate hype as everyone is expectant, the hype alone of the halving could cause sudden price surge,which might be seen as bull run, but might not be organic, we should be watchful so as not to miss that opportunity.

right, bullrun is suddenly possible, with that incident we have to prepare assets and dare to take risks. so it's not just bitcoin that will surge, but it is possible altcoins will also be affected. and that's when many people around the world will come back to pay attention to bitcoin according to its original purpose

The price rise due to halving is generally organic as the total number of new coins being added are limited. The rewards the miners are getting are halved and to fulfill the loss in coins, there should be a gain in price. It's not that the price would just double but it would certainly move to a higher support level as miners won't sell coins for loss.

many possibilities can occur when halving. Bull Run can come before halving, when halving takes place or after halving. Surely there will be a lot of FOMO and many are trapped in the Whales game. This will be very dangerous for people who just want to benefit but do not see the risk that will occur later.

Generally when everyone expects something to happen that means it is already priced in. Maybe halving will lead to a bull run, or maybe it won't, but the general expectation that prices will rise is likely already at least partially factored into the current price and current movement.

I can only hope for the best for cryptocurrency, hopefully this will really happen like 2017, but if it hasn't happened this will also be a test of patience before everything is completely recovered. I am really looking forward to a good surprise in 2020 and hopefully this will come true and all doubts about cryptocurrency will be reduced and investors will return

I completely agree that we do not need to hope very much that Halving will greatly affect the price. the next bull market will begin when we will see positive news from governments that will begin to understand what bitcoin is and how it can help to many people. halving can bring just a small profit

It's not good to completely carried away due to speculations as it will be a huge disappointment for most of the users if we don't see any bull run post halving because almost 70% of users including myself are convinced that we will have bull run post halving. We need to have an alternative plans for future as we cannot be dependent on just bull runs.

all investors are now waiting for halving and will make all their plans according to this development. In my opinion, the price of halving will affect a little. but I think this effect will come after the btc price drops a little more.

Believe me, many people wanted to move on from that sad story :). All I can think of the solution to this problem is bitcoin halving. I remember the bitcoin halving last 2017 as it was the wick of a bull run. Big bull run. And it's also expected in the next halving. Many are predicting that it will fall to 100k dollars or more. Hope that's true, that's for the benefit of all.

Last time i thought that halving was already in the price. i was so wrong. This time i think it's going up again with a similar fashion, but i a afraid that i am wrong again.

Definitely, the highly waited and anticipated bull run is slowly cooking and we are just at the start of the next bull cycle that is expected to last good 12 to 24 months and personally im expecting biggest ever bull run this time around because of entrance of institutions and also legal products like bakkt already launched and growing everyday.

In 2020 we can expect Bitcoin bull run due to Bitcoin halving and also different news about the regulation of cryptocurrency in China and also launching coin by Facebook and also some other news about the regulation of cryptocurrency. So I think year 2020 will be a good year for cryptocurrency.

I like what you said and that is true that we shouldn't be brought for the hype although, we really are expecting a reversal this time because we're already done with the bears.

We want to see something good and I think this year started it and it's possible that it will continue next year but dont have a big expectation.

I thin it's gonna be the date that the crypto community i waiting for for sure.
BTC halving ha a great historical data (check the BTC chart), so i guess it's gonna be great date for sure especially that the next halving date will take even more years to reach it which makes BTC even more worthy in dollar value.

Halving speculation already got priced in from May 2019 to May 2022, hence the rise from $5K to $14K.
Halving "stock to flow" growth will come shortly afterwards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209110.msg53330184#msg53330184) in my opinion, following accumulation that will lead to moon moon moon.
Too many speculators front-ran the "year before the halving pump" and overshot the mark in my opinion, that story has already been bought & sold.
But then what did you expect when something happens twice, people bet on the third time lucky scenario.

I think it is okay if we cannot see bitcoin is not get a bull run in 2020 because bitcoin will rise in the future. We still have many times to see bitcoin will be back to the higher price, but now, many people waiting and hope that the bull run will happen in the next year. Many people are curious about what will happen to bitcoin before and after halving moment because if we check at the history before, after the halving time, bitcoin price will start to increase and break every high price.

what we are seeing now could be a bull run :)
several analysts were claiming that 6200-6400$ is the support level for this year and we would be lucky to not see it drop
maybe the market is buying in expectations of the next year's halving , but the curve is going to be not the steep " it was 7500 and is 15.000 next week "
historically we see every halving goes exponential , peaking half a year after the actual halving happens
but if what we see now is the bull run , then the price could be even lower than today
I sincerely hope for solid , not a bubble -like growth the next year , nut I'm slightly sceptical because the adoption is not going as fast as we all would like
bitcoin is far from being widely used as a payment method and not so many big names are accepting it
people are waiting for SEC , halving , miraculous price growth etc. while sitting on their coins and doing nothing
maybe when everybody puts in some effort , even if it is telling about bitcoin to your friends , neighbors  etc.
the price will be growing together with the bitcoin's audience

I'm finding that, like you, people aren't very excited about the halving. Some people think it'll be a dud, others think lots of miners will shut down and that'll be bearish for the price.

I recall similar sentiment in early 2016. Everyone said the halving was priced in.....then the price doubled. :P

although we still don't know what lies ahead, but I also hope for the next halving. according to available information and data, halving on bitcoin is always positive in increasing its price, but I don't really expect it at very high prices. I think this is a little different in the halving that happens to Litecoin. I think people are preparing halving for bitcoin.

I always think the value of BTC is as much as its mining value and to me, this is the most convenient way. Now, considering that mining value will be twice at halving, the price should be twice the current value. I do not know if BTC will reach this price before or after halving, but make sure it will. As a result, the price is more likely to increase.

Why do you compare Bitcoin to LTC, even in terms of halving? LTC is altcoin, fade copy of BTC and 2017/2018 is crushed altcoins so hard that they will not recover for a long time (maybe never). It actually turned out that there could only be one king on the throne, everyone else will fail over time.

What bull run in 2018 or 2019 you are talking, did anyone expect a bull run in those years? These were definitely years of correction and accumulation, bull run so far occur in the period 1 to 1.5 years after halving (2016 halving/2017 December big bull run).

You really mixed a lot of wrong and irrelevant facts, with completely wrong periods of time and with a certain amount of pessimism. I am not saying next halving will make 100% new big bull run, but there is no good reason to say that it will not be the same as 2017. The only problem is in fact that we should wait maybe 2 years for this to happen, and I have no doubt that this will produce a large number of new skeptics and pessimists.

Well, for me, I personally do believe that even if the upcoming event which is the Bitcoin halving that will happen in the year 2020 will not trigger the bullrun, then at least there will be an improvement on the prices of the cryptocurrencies within the market so that all of our waiting will be all worth it for at least we have breath from a long hold. Well for me, I am just being positive that 2020 will gave us something to offer which I expect to be good despite of the current situation the market is into, the entrance of 2020 may lead us all into prosperity and end all of our sufferings from the recent years that the market has been down. I strongly believe that if the halving might not trigger the bull run, may at least an event would come into 2020 to boost the prices of the cryptocurrencies in the market to rise up into a desirable price as much as possible.

i think 2020 will be good for bitcoin and prices can surge much because market already doing lot of correction  since past two years and bitcoin can reach another high prices this in 2020 because of halving for sure that can make market in good way because of reduce supply mining bitcoin

Correct, we are already in a launchpad/accumulation period. 2020 will be lots of fun.

Why everyone is hyped of the upcoming halving? Because of another take-off to the moon? What if your expectations didn't meet? Will you be disappointed? Will you tell all folks that BTC is going nowhere?

Remember that good progress takes several years in the process.

If people are really optimistic about bitcoin's moon price in the future, even there's an upcoming halving or not, people just need to focus on accumulating BTC as much as possible. Bull or bear, it's always good to have BTC in hand.

Don't expect too much for that moon price after halving even we have several reasons why should we believe in that. If something good will happen after, then much better, if not, so be it.

Pretty dumb advise. What does 2020 have to do with 2018? Was halving in 2018, or was 2 years before?  2020 will be just like 2016. Like when last halving happened. Pretty boring year with tiny slow growth. probably few pumps and dumps on the way. For sure in summer around halving and others when Chinese president will speak. But overall at end of year we will mostly see Bitcoin at like 50-100% higher price as it is right now. Great year for any asset. A boring year for Bitcoin.

Honestly, Bull run is not my thing anymore, I just want to see Bitcoin price above 15K USD! Bull run not mean Bitcoin at 20K USD like 2017, we have to forget that pump and dump bull run! This year crypto gonna be rock, I feel positive that many big companies will come to the crypto industry and they may open the door for crypto payment! Therefore the most awaiting bitcoin halving is coming! So, overall, the crypto market can see the real bull run this year!

Yes, I feel the same! Many good and big things are fixed to come gradually in 2020! One after another, so, people will keep talking and involving in various sections of crypto. Bitcoin halving will bring much good news in the crypto world, Actually, I am very excited to welcome the year!

Look at where the price was 12 months ago, and where we are now. Halving may already be priced in. Personally, looking at the long term trend, I don't expect a new ATH next year yet.

Since I have a long term target, I don't care if we reach a new top in 2021 or in 2023 ... as long as we get there :P

Litecoin halving had turned out a disaster indeed

But it was a disaster specifically because Bitcoin was going down. If Bitcoin had been going up when the Litecoin halving came along, we would have seen Litecoin prices skyrocket. However, there is no Bitcoin for Bitcoin as there is Bitcoin for Litecoin to arrest its rise despite the halving. The point is, while we shouldn't in fact expect too much from the coming halving but definitely not for the reasons why the Litecoin halving has failed

It's a worthwhile comparison to make. You are focusing on "Bitcoin dominance" but you are ignoring that Litecoin massively outperformed both BTC and the entire altcoin market during it's pre-halving pump this year. That's a pretty strong indication that halving-driven demand is a real thing. That spells real implications for the BTC market as we approach the 2020 halving.

After halving of Litecoin price literally bullrun almost 30 USD to 150 USD. I put my all expectation in Bitcoin for halving. Some expectation for Ethereum 2.0. For Bitcoin halving my expectation is in two system. Bitcoin should bullrun or after halving keep surge until the end next year.

A bull run in Bitcoin that doesn't break the ATH is not a bull run. This may be called a fakeout :D
A real Bitcoin bull run will take us to 50k if it ever happens. I believe it will because it gains support in the lows year after year and 5 years from now this low will be higher than we are now, which will give us a significant margin to move up. Bitcoin will break ATH or die, I don't think it will ever stabilize so you can expect a bull run like in 2017 somewhere in the future. Not necessarily in 2020.

This might be the key to be a successful holder.  ;D
After what happened with bitcoin actually when it entered the realm of 2018. Should we still expect something else?
It had been a great dump and I think investors are still quiet and just want that money back.
They cannot sell for they bought it at a larger price even with the $14k in July of 2018 is not enough.

Any constant continue price change can be called bull run if there's no intervention and even if we will not reach the current ATH made by the past 2017 bull run still we are lucky if we bought bitcoins more cheaper since imagine the total percentage we possibly get if the upcoming halving will bring another historic greatness next year.

Lol. A rum doesn't break ath is not a bull run??! Does this dude even know what he's talking about? You all time high is not a parameter for a bull run. It's correct that a sustained rise in price can already be considered as such. Some people just hasn't gotten over what happened in 2017 and we must accept that that kind of run mat not happen again in the future. We're all looking at a steady market movement towards our goal.

I guess Bitfinex can't print so many tethers

Or can they? Well, it is not even certain if they will be able to print anything due to ongoing investigations into their shady practices of rigging the market. Now we will probably see real evidence emerge of what has been rumored for 3 years. Namely, that the ATH of 20k in 2017 was all fake and happened entirely thanks to crafty market manipulation carried out by a tightly-knit group of knowledgeable people (read, no more bull runs of the 2017 scale)

I will never agree that comparisons of BTC with LTC or any other altcoin should be done, and especially that we should be afraid that BTC halving will have zero effect like LTC halving (long term). I know there are those who still think the time will come for altcoins, but I think that 2018/2019 made many people aware that altcoins (LTC included) are not a smart investment option. LTC is starting this year with $30, and it ends it just above $40, but it is true that at one point it hit almost $120.

What is different with BTC and LTC halving is time period after the price is starting to rise, and if BTC is stay on this price level one year from now, many will say that halving is have zero effect. I think that 2021 is a year of big events, but that's just my personal opinion.

Expecting too much ain't bad if you are aware as well that such expectation couldn't happen on the other hand. FOMOs are surely will occur when this bullrun starts to occur with so much hype coming around. Besides looking back upon the last halving which happen last 2016 bullrun starts to happen late at 2017 which means in the incoming halving in 2020 that ain't assured that bullrun would happen right away as well.

If everyone would believe that bull run will affect the market to turn into bullish, then it's not impossible to see a bull run by 2020.
That should be a great year for us if it ended up achieving a new all time high and we will surely forget the struggles of holding that we are experiencing for  more than a year already.

The hype should be here by next year so the pump that we used to see last 2017 will again be seen next year.
As the year will end, I am optimistic that we will have a good start next year especially when closer to the halving schedule.

don't forget the countdown https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/

the only thing that the market needs is a kickstarter to simply enter the bull market overnight. it will start by a moderately sized rise at first which will take a lot of people who haven't been preparing or were falling for FUD and waiting for drops, by surprise and then the FOMO begins as all those unprepared people jump back on board. the holidays could also make this more intense as if the price starts rising early in January a lot of people would come back to see the big rise and then FOMO even harder.
then comes the halving hype and with all the rises that has been going on we can even see the ATH be very close by then.

Well honestly I don't put too much expectations on it but I do still hope that there will be a bull run occur after the halving and I do take the risk of buying cheap coins as well. Regarding with Litecoin halving I think it is different from Bitcoin so I guess if Bitcoin will pump other coins will do so. Perhaps halving of other altcoins is not comparable in Bitcoin.

I certainly never argued anything like that. On the contrary, in fact.

LTC's first halving occurred in August 2015. At the time, it was trading around $3. Today, it trades around $41. Zero long term effect? You tell me.

Short term, the effects are apparent too. From April-June 2015, LTC jumped 810% in price. In hindsight, this was obviously "the halving pump" that also occurred before BTC's halvings in 2012 and 2016 and LTC's 2nd halving in 2019.

The halving is one of the event people are really wanting for as many people hope that bitcoin should set a new high in pricing. I hope from January through December bitcoin will keep growing.

I completely agree that 2018 has nothing to do with 2020 and vice versa but people like to draw connections and find patterns and similarities even there where they don't exist. But Bitcoin is not functioning that way and we don't need to make comparisons all the time with evenrs that happend in the past, that leads nowhere except to false predictions and expectations.

I think this is a good take.  Those looking to benefit from the greater fool theory should be buying continuously with their eye set on Q4 2021 to cash in.

I think you are quoting the wrong post men since my point is the same to your conclusion maybe next time try to read up so that you will not miss to quote the correct post but anyways let's became open minded on possibilities since this all talks is pure prediction and we can see the final result once we are nearly at block halving month.

I think there is no higher chance that bull run and expect for 2017 price will achieve this year. maybe the halving event may support the price to up but it couldn't help much to make a higher price that what we want. although it is not happening, we should not lost our hope and still hodling and purchase for lowest price if we want to make profit. 

It takes process and all aiming to see something good to be happen when bull run occurs but it's good thing to see really that there's a slow growth since meaning the halving slowly taking it's effect and maybe we cannot see some good growth for this year but maybe in year 2021 we can see the massive price bull run(but this is just a speculation so don't take it seriously).

Bitcoin halving surely would be as expected, a new ATH is definitely going to be the case_for me there's no cause for alarm.

Do you know how to identify a bullish market? It is simply using 100 moving average. If the 100 moving average strikes down the price where it act as support then it is now the start of bullish market. The halving may affect the trend of the market. I do not want prediction and I just want to rely on current situation. My decision will also depend on what will happen in the price of the bitcoin. But one thing is sure, there will be an effect to the price of bitcoin after the halving.

"The halving is slready priced in". The statement that you should be telling everyone, if you actually wanted to buy in in a cheaper price to HODL. 8)

Halving is coming soon but I'm not really confident that shows a bullish trend. May others are so optimistic about this but we also realize that the market is totally different from the past years. And yes,  we can't give assurance that it leads to having a positive response from the investors and may help to uplift the downfall trend. Cause everything may change and knows how the market behaves differently makes no way that halving will drive to be bullish. 

Previous halvings didn't have effects on the price right after the halving, only after some time, to be accurate 6+ months, we saw the the price rising. I think we will have similar situation this year, after the halving minimum 6 months is January 2021, it the time when bitcoin price will have some significant increase, everything before that will be classic volatility in this range where are we now, between 7 and 9 thousand dollars. I'm sure that next year we will see the price rising over 10k, but that will be just temporary.

People were saying the same thing in 2015 about the 2013 bull run. That it was all thanks to the bot Karpeles had set. That it was all fake and won't ever happen again, but it did. I hope the next bull run will be all natural instead of a speculative bubbles like 2013 and 2017, but I believe it will happen.


Does that mean a constant price change that we've witnessed in 2018 can also be called a bull run? For over a year we were going from 20k to 3k. It fits your definition. ;)

You can price in expectations but not real change in coin supply

This is not to say that the coming halving will necessarily trigger a massive surge in prices. But if it will not, this will be due to the mostly negligible effect of the next reward halving on the total supply of coins. Don't forget that halving is intended to work and does actually work in line with the law of diminishing returns

With each halving coming along and by, the reward gets diminished until there is virtually nothing left to diminish further (we are still far from that but you get the point). And thus no mind-boggling and earth-shattering effect on prices should be expected that would come about specifically because of the decrease in the supply of new coins


To be exact, people were saying quite different things in 2015 and 2019. Just in case, tethers emerged only in April 2017, if I'm not mistaken

To much expectation coming and people want to see some immediate increase since for sure they have lose more money from the unexpected long streak of bearish market and hopefully all of this predictions are right so that we have time to recover the loses we encounter for the past years, And I believe to many people get anxious by now since market still striking them down.

Tether emerged in 2014, though it wasn't until 2017 that it blew up in popularity and market cap.

He's talking about the Willy Bot. (https://www.coindesk.com/bot-named-willy-did-mt-goxs-automated-trading-pump-bitcoin-price) People said the 2013 bubble was "fake" because the Willy Bot supposedly pumped the market up. Sort of like now, how people say the 2017 bubble was "fake" because of Tether printing.

I'm sure the naysayers will come up with yet another narrative for why the next bubble is "fake" too. :P

The most important thing is that it should be in the first place

Fake or not, as long as we can make dough, it's okay with me (more or less). With that said, though, what makes you think that the previous bubbles were not "fake" enough? Willy the Bot or Bitfinex the Tethers doesn't cut it, or what? Ask me and I'll tell you that any bubble is inherently fake. Also, I've heard rumors that a certain NYAG is looking into this matter now, apart from the two class actions filed on essentially the same assumption. Or should I better say accusation? As they say, what goes around comes about

Yes, exponential run-ups are always "fake" to some extent because after certain point like 40% of the slope people turn their thinking off. First it's all about analysing the charts, not going all in, taking profits, but once it's up 500% and you were taking profits every 50 you go all crazy. I'm not saying "you" in particular but most people. They sell their houses and take loans to get more money to exchanges thinking that it's going to be up 100% next week and then another 100% after that.
Does that mean we shouldn't count all time highs? No. Does that mean there won't be another ATH? No! Fake doesn't erase that it happened and that it will happen again because of how people are.

The price action. Take the 2013 bubble. It started going parabolic around $12. After the bubble popped, the price never returned below $150.

If all that demand were "fake" then why did price never return to $12 and below? Clearly between 2013 and 2015, real demand had increased significantly to keep prices so high.

You can run the same exercise with the 2017 bubble. If it were "fake" then why is the market trading at $7K right now? Why not sub-$1200, or $0?


I disagree. Real buyers meeting real sellers on the order book is as real as it gets. That's real price discovery, which is all that matters.

I mostly agree with this observation

I had been sticking around back in the day. In fact, I got to know crypto since October 2013 (due to Coinbase ads all over the place), and I'm 100% sure that I was not the only one who became aware of Bitcoin around that time (as it had been only about Bitcoin at the time). So the 2013 rally was definitely due to explosive demand, some part of which stayed after Billy had kicked the bucket


This is where I tend to disagree

If we analyze the price action in 2015-2017, we will see that Bitcoin started to rise in the fall of 2015 from below 200 dollars. Then halving had come, and the real price action began in late 2016 and early 2017, i.e. before Bitfinex started to pump the market with tethers. And in late 2018 we crashed to lower 3k's, basically to square one if you ask me (read, we shouldn't really take current prices as a point of reference) 


You don't know if the demand is real. Besides, even if it is, it doesn't mean that the growth is not speculative in and of itself, which is what makes it a bubble

Give positive effect for bitcoin halving because many investor have claimed bitcoin will go to the moon when halving come, I will invest with bitcoin now and sell after bitcoin halving before one week. Every four year bitcoin halving time give effect for bitcoin have higher price but when you not really trust with bitcoin halving just wait and see about bitcoin and altcoin price.

That is pure fundamental and sentiment analysis. Many opinions in the cryptocurrency market that keep saying that the bitcoin can have a strong upward move after the halving. It is just their prediction and we should not fully rely on it. Yes the feature will be improved but we are still do not know if there will be an effect to the supply and the demand of the bitcoin in the market.

It's true, many Bitcoin users use their emotions and wishes when making analsys instead of reasonable thinking. That is why many results of such analsys are exaggerated and don't have connection with comon sense.
Also, every event connected with Bitcoin, like halving they see as magic that will push Bitcoin price to some huge price. At the end result is usualy disappointment.

Bitcoin halving about in April 2020 but not guarantee bitcoin have higher price because just few months later with halving time bitcoin still down and never raise to higher price, maybe when halving just two months later give impact for bitcoin and altcoin will have higher price but until today bitcoin keep down, just waiting only for us to see bitcoin raise back to higher price again.

You know the reason why, don't you..

The market struggles for more or less 2 years and that's look enough for our expectation to recover but it's still not happening.
Now we have a chance with this halving HYPE, let's make it real and bring bitcoin back to the moon again.

I miss the MOON and HODL which was very popular way back, now.. most are just worries.

This halving will decrease bitcoin inflation to that around the USD. I expect a nice bull run right before, but then about 6 months after. $35k is the lower end of my range here.

There is a lot of prediction yet we don't know what will happen in the future and the price could go down or up but i guess the price might bounce back to $10,000 or more than thay before the halving.

And we might see a slight plummet after the halving since the market community will sure be full of FUDs and FOMO.

You are right buddy no one knows what will happen to bitcoin. Because bitcoin is the most anonymous crypto and it’s hard to predict the price of bitcoin accurately but we can make predictions according to market condition. Right now so many people are buying bitcoin because it’s going to be high in 2020.

Honestly I'm again alive with what I am seeing now, bitcoin already trading at $8,000 after being down for months and stayed at $6K+ for awhile.
With the halving is happening in 126 days from now, if that bullish start we have now will continue, this should create a great price nearing the event.

I'm quite too optimistic but this is how people react when they saw bitcoin is moving bullish.
let's check this schedule again and again (https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/)

When the price makes this kind of sudden jumps everyone is excited! We don't need to rush with conclusions, Bitcoin price can change direction in seconds, we all know that. The halving day is approaching, many people expect miracles on that day, but we need to stay on the ground. We need to be satisfied with the current situation and this nice price increase we just experienced.

The price increase that we have seen during the last weeks is without a doubt promising but we should not let our guard down, for what I'm seeing there are several indications that the price increase that we are seeing is not going to last, maybe I am wrong but if I am not then I will not be surprised to see the price below 8000 again.

I really think that people are too hyped about the halving and this is blinding them to the realities of the market and what it can achieve in a short amount of time.

But that's how things have been all this time

Well, not about the halving specifically, of course, but just about anything crypto related. People get all worked up when the price first goes up and then goes down (it works in reverse order as good). As an illustrative example and in line with the thread topic, it can be claimed with a degree of certainty that virtually any bull run inevitably ends with a bull trap, and the higher the price rises, the deeper will be the trap. So even more people will get excited and blinded to "the realities of the market and what it can achieve in a short amount of time", as you put it

And it seems like everything was just a hype, after we touched $9K, now we are witnessing how the price continues to dump, trading now at $8400 but as of today, btc is still down in compared to the last 24 hours. We don't know if it will bounce again but for sure, when it bounce back to $9,000, we will again see the hype we saw and early this month.

Actually I am not in a hurry because regardless I will still hold and wait for a high price which is in my year ago.

After a year of bear market and another year of slow growth, the momentum has been built for the bull run. Plus the 2020 halving will act as a catalyst. I am expecting a positive growth. But still bull run is not confirmed. Unless 9600 becomes the support from resistance, I won't call such an appreciation a bullish market. There was a major selloff at 9400. This needs to change.

My hope is that in 2020 bitcoin can reach its ATH, so altcoin can improve and find its season if bitcoin is stable at high prices. We have been waiting for almost 2 years from 2018 to 2019 for the increase in bitcoin and altcoin at good prices. If so, we can trade by enjoying profits and in a more stable market situation than in the past years. It seems like for now almost everyone hopes as I expect.

Here is a need to atleast reach $10k mark before bullrun may happen. For now it's still challenging to move that far and create bull run as many are already happy in low gains now that be calm in waiting. They probably learn from what bull run or ATH effects before.