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Title: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Rengga Jati on December 30, 2019, 09:13:25 PM
ROI of top coins since exchange listing

https://i.imgur.com/vkUuyby.jpg?1

According to the chart, it is clearly seen that Bitcoin is leading all crypto coins. Yes, NO altcoins can compete with Bitcoin. Even if Ethereum is in second place, it is still very far from what can be achieved by Bitcoin. If we compare Bitcoin to altcoins, it is like comparing an apple to oranges. So, once Bitcoin dominates crypto market and most investors prefer to focus on investing in Bitcoin, we must admit that it is very reasonable.

Source: https://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-roi-beat-altcoin-chart/


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: jossiel on December 30, 2019, 09:36:00 PM
It is very reasonable and there's no way for any altcoin to defeat bitcoin in terms of return of investment. It's the best crypto of all time and nothing can replace it up to this moment.

Anyone who says that there will be a more profitable coin, it's just a temporal profitability but overall it's always bitcoin.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: tenakha on December 30, 2019, 10:54:33 PM
I do not think there will be any altcoin that can reach BTC in this regard. Hence BTC have to leave throne, and this is not going to happen in the near future.

Another subject I want to discuss is BNB. Why does the exchange coin gain so much value when there are dozens of potential altcoins that need to be evaluated? 132x in 2 year. Just wow.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: VanDeinsberg12 on December 30, 2019, 11:18:54 PM
that's true and remember bitcoin has started the price from the zero price while those icos are putting ico price just like a few cents as the starter price. To see bitcoin is always dominating the crypto market is something that will happen forever as it's just like a dollar that has already dominated the whole of the crypto currency.
bitcoin used by all of altcoins to determine the value. it's also used as the main pair for every crypto.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: jhongzjhong on December 30, 2019, 11:19:17 PM
When it comes to ROI, I never doubt bitcoin will win. No one of altcoins can defeat Bitcoin, that's someone ask me what altcoins the will gain more profit. But my answer is bitcoin can do itself to generate profit as long as you will patiently wait at the right time.

Thank you for sharing the chart price ROI in all cryptos, which was very inspiring to those who looking investment.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Adriano2010 on December 30, 2019, 11:33:27 PM
Bitcoin will win and will continue win even some good years from now, but also for early investors who invest on altcoins like Ethereum and others of they sell on bull run they make a lot of profit.

Nice graphics and a good job, thanks.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: o48o on December 30, 2019, 11:42:50 PM
Agreed, and even by some miracle there would be another new challenger it would take time to rise like every bigger altcoin out there. Best bet on challenger in the marketcap would be eth, but it will still be miles away from bitcoin roi.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: CjMapope on December 30, 2019, 11:54:42 PM
Interesting!   i wish you would have wrote this, as i would give you some merit, im a sucker for USEFUL info-graphics haha
i wonder if a person included alot of smallcap but still viable shitcoins if BTC would still be on top..
for example, Raiblocks, which is now NANO, was free for months from a faucet, 1000's of coins at a time with no CD, and later hit 90$ per coin IIRC :O
crypto is so crazy haha


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Bonwin on December 30, 2019, 11:58:24 PM
Only big investors would want to invest more in Bitcoin, because the larger your input, the more your returns, but retail investors prefer altcoins more.
There are 999 reasons why Bitcoin will continue to top. In fact, an altcoin might have better features, but for the fact that Bitcoin is the pioneering coin, it will have every reason to remain at that position and give much better and Reliable returns.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: hello_good_sir on December 31, 2019, 12:12:17 AM
You could also argue that bitcoin's ROI per year on average is significantly lower than that of alts - it's all relative.

At the end of the day, cryptos in general have been extremely profitable over the past few years and you're completely right - to compare bitcoin to alts in terms of their profitability alone is like comparing apples to oranges - especially when you consider the advantage that BTC has in terms of being the first mover.

I do expect BTC to somewhat outperform alts in the near future though, and continue the trend of an increase in bitcoin dominance overall.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: biddicoin on December 31, 2019, 03:30:37 AM
yes it is right in this time. bcz altcoin is down so much right now
but if the data made in early 2018 when bull run happen, it would be much different.

https://i.imgur.com/ztL7Bh0.png


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: maxreish on December 31, 2019, 03:35:46 AM
Obviously, bitcoin offers a high ROI. And well, based also in my past years and months, bitcoin never fail to impressed me with unexpected much higher returns as expected. Most of the investors have chosen bitcoin not only because it is the first major coin invented but also because the capability, reputation and the store value of it is better than altcoins.

But I would admit that Ethereum and other altcoins also give a good ROI, too. But with compare to btc, I will always prefer btc.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: iamaruf on December 31, 2019, 03:41:53 AM
That's why I always suggest people to invest their money in bitcoin. I saw many altcoins, where people made huge profit in short time. But in long run bitcoin is the king.Though few peoples hate bitcoin and love to trade altcoins ( very few people).In my research Bitcoin is Very profitable,if you can hold your bitcoin and I am trying to do that.         


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Kotone on December 31, 2019, 03:51:22 AM
There's a bias here we all know how good will btc bring up some ROI obviously the graph will typicall shows a huge gap and the reason for this is btc is the first crytocurrency that has ever launch. Being first always remember right? Like how the first one to step on the Moon was Neil Armsyrong to be honest I dont remember who is second. So same case here. I did some profits from btc past bull season and likely will invest now while it is so cheap.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: ReiMomo on December 31, 2019, 04:15:09 AM
That's why I always suggest people to invest their money in bitcoin. I saw many altcoins, where people made huge profit in short time. But in long run bitcoin is the king.Though few peoples hate bitcoin and love to trade altcoins ( very few people).In my research Bitcoin is Very profitable,if you can hold your bitcoin and I am trying to do that.         
You have your own answer here. If you want a quick profit but this is very risky just invest in altcoins in a short period of time but when you want a safer investment but need to extend your patient, Bitcoin is the best place to invest in long term purposes. You have a good insight and we are the same, that is right, bitcoin is good to invest.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Kupid002 on December 31, 2019, 04:33:42 AM
That's why I always suggest people to invest their money in bitcoin. I saw many altcoins, where people made huge profit in short time. But in long run bitcoin is the king.Though few peoples hate bitcoin and love to trade altcoins ( very few people).In my research Bitcoin is Very profitable,if you can hold your bitcoin and I am trying to do that.         
also in altcoin not only you can earn huge amount you can also experience vise versa which you can lost all your initial investment thats why its very difficult to decide if you want to invest in altcoin. Bitcoin is more secured and safer compared to altcoin. You can also lost in bitcoin but not that large.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: FairUser on December 31, 2019, 04:39:34 AM
Today most investors in this market only focus on bitcoin, and it makes the total capitalization of bitcoin as well as the level of market dominance very high with previous years. Investing in bitcoin is always a good investment option and we don't need to think too much the same way we choose to invest in altcoins. For years to come I believe that bitcoin will continue to dominate this market with the collapse of a series of useless altcoins. It's best to just invest in bitcoin in the long term and wait for the profits to come to us


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: bitcoindusts on December 31, 2019, 04:45:03 AM
ROI of top coins since exchange listing

https://i.imgur.com/vkUuyby.jpg?1

According to the chart, it is clearly seen that Bitcoin is leading all crypto coins. Yes, NO altcoins can compete with Bitcoin. Even if Ethereum is in second place, it is still very far from what can be achieved by Bitcoin. If we compare Bitcoin to altcoins, it is like comparing an apple to oranges. So, once Bitcoin dominates crypto market and most investors prefer to focus on investing in Bitcoin, we must admit that it is very reasonable.

Source: https://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-roi-beat-altcoin-chart/

Is this chart for exchange ROI?  Or investors ROI?  If it is an exchange  ROI, it is obvious, BTC is the best since almost all trades are done by BTC.  But for the current investors, I think Altcoin ROI is better than Bitcoin because most of altcoin are sold with a discount (ICO/IEO) and sold at a full price on an exchange.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: TravelMug on December 31, 2019, 04:47:13 AM
You just have to check altcoins from their previous all time high and compare it to bitcoin.

We can clearly see that bitcoin is on the road to recovery while the rest of the altcoin are almost dying. So we can conclude bitcoin is going to continue it's dominant because it's ROI is way above those altcoins. And with that said, if you're a smart investor, you know where to put your money with.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: tsaroz on December 31, 2019, 04:54:57 AM
After bitcoin, it seems Ethereum and BNB had the largest growth. And these three are the coins that could lead you to success in 2020.
I have decided to try just these three coins on 2020 and find out what the results would be at the end. It would be Bitcoin and BNB on first half of the year and 50% of BTC goes to Ethereum after mid year.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: joinfree on December 31, 2019, 05:03:52 AM
It's pretty obvious that bitcoin will take the first place as the coin with the highest return on investment. Bitcoin has always been the preferred asset to invest into in this industry and that's why it's ROI is so high. Many crypto enthusiast invest into itmore than they invest into any altcoin. If you  also look critically at coinmarket cap coins like SEELE and DIVI are performing very well.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: iv4n on December 31, 2019, 05:21:49 AM
It's pretty obvious that bitcoin will take the first place as the coin with the highest return on investment. Bitcoin has always been the preferred asset to invest into in this industry and that's why it's ROI is so high. Many crypto enthusiast invest into itmore than they invest into any altcoin. If you  also look critically at coinmarket cap coins like SEELE and DIVI are performing very well.

It's obvious because bitcoin started from zero, without premined coins, without ico, without some other things that today's icos have. It's a simple situation, from zero to anywhere, and we can't say the same for many other coins that had price tag before they are even launched.
What can be interesting is to make a calculation for coins after 2017, to take 2018 bottom prices and to see which one made a huge rise in last year, year and half. Its how some other coins can have even better progress in terms of the price rise then bitcoin.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on December 31, 2019, 06:03:50 AM
I don't think that the chart is very accurate. For example, Bitcoin was first listed in New Liberty Standard in 2010 and the exchange rate was $0.0007 per coin. The current exchange rate is $7,200 per coin. So if you had invested $100 back then (in 2010), then that investment would have (theoretically) grown to $1,028,571,400 ($1 billion). On top of that, you can add the returns from the forked coins such as BCH and BSV.

Similar story for Ethereum as well. The ICO price for Ethereum was $0.31 per coin. The current price is $133. So in case you had invested $100 during the Ethereum ICO in 2015, then your investment would be worth $42,900 now. On top of that, you can add forked coins, such as Ethereum Classic.



Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: JeotQ on December 31, 2019, 06:48:40 AM
Bitcoin will always give the best reliable returns even if all altcoins have better features, bitcoin is unstoppable and it will remain unstoppable for a long period of time, few new altcoins will bring good returns too if you can find them and invest while they are still very cheap


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Eternad on December 31, 2019, 06:56:39 AM
It's pretty obvious that bitcoin will take the first place as the coin with the highest return on investment. Bitcoin has always been the preferred asset to invest into in this industry and that's why it's ROI is so high. Many crypto enthusiast invest into itmore than they invest into any altcoin. If you  also look critically at coinmarket cap coins like SEELE and DIVI are performing very well.
We really see how BTC arises in time, it's increase is too fast that no other altcoins might be able to do it too. Even combines of altcoins can't perform what BTC did in the past years especially 2017 ATH. Those who invested earlier that time are still experiencing the ROI of Bitcoin even we are in bear market as they bought btc in too low price.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on December 31, 2019, 08:03:53 AM
Kinda makes sense considering bitcoin was initially start from zero and climbing all the way up to what it is now though if there's no altcoin and ICO boom last year I must admit that the growth might not be as significant as it is today meanwhile ETH was already having the price stated in early stage of its ICO. Overall, bitcoin is like a gold of digital currency, everyone would prefer it over everything else.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Mianae on December 31, 2019, 08:24:34 AM
Bitcoin ROI stands over time even across different market cycle when compared to Altcoins ROI. In a bull run Bitcoin sets the pace for Altcoins to follow in a bear run, Altcoins are most affected with Bitcoin price getting better than Altcoins price.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: zenhu on December 31, 2019, 08:45:01 AM
It just if we know that how big potential bitcoin was, I don't think that chart is benchmark for good ROI nowadays. I know that chart is for real, that bitcoin is the one of them, bitcoin is initiator for crypto world and start from zero. I think it can be different if there are have at least 5 top coins that launch the same time with bitcoin.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: pikkie on December 31, 2019, 08:46:52 AM
from the data that you provided, bitcoin has very expensive advantages from the beginning which was just under $1 and now it can go up to as high as this can indeed show evidence of the benefits that are obtained very much, but those who bought bitcoin when it was originally created bitcoin did not expect to be so expensive and there was no thought that the price of bitcoin could be expensive.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: wildan88 on December 31, 2019, 08:59:22 AM
It is very reasonable and there's no way for any altcoin to defeat bitcoin in terms of return of investment. It's the best crypto of all time and nothing can replace it up to this moment.

Anyone who says that there will be a more profitable coin, it's just a temporal profitability but overall it's always bitcoin.

yeah altcoin is just a good alternative to collecting bitcoin because eventually, people will prefer bitcoin over altcoin because it's easier to get lots of bitcoin from altcoin, and of course, bitcoin is number one because in terms of price also nothing is ever higher than bitcoin, so bitcoin has a higher ROI.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Trela on December 31, 2019, 09:07:28 AM
Wow, a great chart! I didn't know DASH gave more profits than XRP since exchange listing. It is not too surprising to see BNB in ​​the top 4 in this chart. Since Binance became popular, most countries in Asia have used Binance to trade instead of Bittrex or Poloniex as before. Of course, it also had great promotion campaigns to make it accessible more.

Btw, look at BCH, the profit value is sufficient to prove it's really useless when investing. ::)


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Finestream on December 31, 2019, 09:27:56 AM
Wow, that figure though. . I could have been a millionaire if I knew btc earlier and I've waited for the peak before I sell, there are only few who are really luck and smart at the same time who made money on btc and good thing also as altcoins are also profitable.

The question is, do we still have a chance to make a fortune investing on altcoins in IEO now?


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Yamifoud on December 31, 2019, 09:29:30 AM
Altcoins has a long way to go before taking more beneficial than Bitcoin. Looking at the chart, it was clearly said that Bitcoin is getting far and far away, and having such distance there is no reason to expect that one day there is an altcoin that will dethrone cause it is obviously nothing.

That it makes sense that investors/traders usually look for Bitcoin rather than of having altcoins cause if profitability issues. And we can't deny that most altcoins nowadays are having their ends which it losses confidence for investors to take the risk.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: bitvalak on December 31, 2019, 09:50:58 AM
ETH, DASH and BNB might be the second option. The graph that is seen in general I see the potential of DASH is almost similar to the pattern of Bitcoin, it's just that there is less capital.
BNB is also very surprising to be able to provide ROI in a short time. BNB and ETH I think the pattern is also similar. With such conditions can last a long time then it is possible that other coins will start to be left by investors because of the minimal ROI.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Rengga Jati on December 31, 2019, 10:39:37 AM
Is this chart for exchange ROI?  Or investors ROI? 
Have you accessed the link I enclose in the OP above? I suggest you read carefully the article to know in detail. Then, I am sure you can answer the question yourself.

But for the current investors, I think Altcoin ROI is better than Bitcoin because most of altcoin are sold with a discount (ICO/IEO) and sold at a full price on an exchange.
How can you state Altcoin ROI better? Do you have certain data to prove it? I'm sorry because I doubt it, moreover once you state ICO/IEO tokens are sold at a full price on an exchange. Can you mention what ICO/IEO tokens can be sold at full prices currently?


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Landak on December 31, 2019, 02:18:11 PM
it makes sense, and it's definitely clear that bitcoin does provide the most ROI compared to altcoin, so it's no surprise that bitcoin is the most powerful and dominates the crypto market. although many people compare with altcoin, altcoin is still altcoin which is an alternative definition of bitcoin, it will not be able to defeat the existence of bitcoin especially in terms of ROI.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: cryp24x on December 31, 2019, 02:22:36 PM
It is very reasonable and there's no way for any altcoin to defeat bitcoin in terms of return of investment. It's the best crypto of all time and nothing can replace it up to this moment.

Anyone who says that there will be a more profitable coin, it's just a temporal profitability but overall it's always bitcoin.
This is correct. Bitcoin still the consistent winner in terms of ROI. If you are aiming for a long term investment so it is Bitcoin you should choose. It is also true that some Altcoins seems to excel but it is just temporary status, there is a great possibility that it will go to its lowest price.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: ansi on December 31, 2019, 04:50:49 PM
If you calculate that since day 1 of BTC, of course BC is the king of the ROI of All Time.
But if you compare BTC ROI to other alts & coin in crypto, there is differently bunch of them who made it more profitable than BTC last couple years, like Ethereum, BNB, LTC, XRP & many more.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Wysi on December 31, 2019, 05:32:19 PM
It's quite obvious that no coin can compete with bitcoin now nor in the future as bitcoin will always remain as king of crypto due to it's trading volume and for the very fact that it's the oldest cryptocurrency. But as of now if one wants to earn a huge profit then they need to experiment altcoins on a short term basis because on longer runs altcoins will not be as profitable as bitcoin but altcoin does have the potential of providing good ROI in short runs.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: wxa7115 on January 01, 2020, 06:53:19 PM
ROI of top coins since exchange listing

https://i.imgur.com/vkUuyby.jpg?1

According to the chart, it is clearly seen that Bitcoin is leading all crypto coins. Yes, NO altcoins can compete with Bitcoin. Even if Ethereum is in second place, it is still very far from what can be achieved by Bitcoin. If we compare Bitcoin to altcoins, it is like comparing an apple to oranges. So, once Bitcoin dominates crypto market and most investors prefer to focus on investing in Bitcoin, we must admit that it is very reasonable.

Source: https://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-roi-beat-altcoin-chart/
A very interesting chart but one that we knew will be like this if anyone took the effort to actually go through the trouble of creating it, and the most interesting thing of all is that this is with a market full of altcoins all taking away a small part of the market cap of bitcoin.

When we finally see the world adoption that we are all expecting there is going to be an even greater difference in the chart as most altcoins remain almost static while bitcoin skyrockets since in my opinion there is no way altcoins are going to compete with bitcoin when they are basically using the same technology.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: ATSgrowth on January 01, 2020, 10:22:57 PM
And people still complain that altcoins are overvalued, this graph shows that still there is enough space for another grow. Especially IOTA, if IOTA dominates the IoT world price of one MIOTA could reach 50USD level easily.  8)


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: sorrros on January 01, 2020, 10:31:58 PM
Bitcoin was listed already in 2010? And please, could someone tell what was the first exchange? It would be nice to know. I know only about MtGox - for me it is the oldest exchange what I know.  ;D


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: Lauren Smith on January 02, 2020, 07:53:52 PM
Bitcoin was listed already in 2010? And please, could someone tell what was the first exchange? It would be nice to know. I know only about MtGox - for me it is the oldest exchange what I know.  ;D

Same here and i also want to know this. I wonder if bitcoin can do this again or if that will only ever happen in the early stages.  We sort of at a middle stage with bitcoin so I doubt you will get  1000x the value back ever again. I think it could grow to 2million though. Now is a great time to buy.


Title: Re: Comparing ROI of Bitcoin's to altcoins
Post by: wxa7115 on January 05, 2020, 04:47:07 PM
Bitcoin was listed already in 2010? And please, could someone tell what was the first exchange? It would be nice to know. I know only about MtGox - for me it is the oldest exchange what I know.  ;D

Same here and i also want to know this. I wonder if bitcoin can do this again or if that will only ever happen in the early stages.  We sort of at a middle stage with bitcoin so I doubt you will get  1000x the value back ever again. I think it could grow to 2million though. Now is a great time to buy.
Bitcoin will keep growing but it is obvious that as it becomes bigger it is going to be more difficult to give the huge profits that everyone wants.

And it is the reason why we cannot waste a single second, even if only a small portion of the human population adopts bitcoin that will still put the price of bitcoin at least at 100k during the next decades which depending on where you live that could be all the difference between having a very easy live and struggling and work for decades for a pension that most likely it is never going to be paid to you.