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Hi friends, here I'm, your brother Stedsm with an updated version of a scam you all may not be aware of, as well as may also get trapped if I don't make you aware of it. So, let's start without any more shit.

Today, I was contacted by a person named Hamsi Puerta (written in his telegram name).
Unknown to me completely, I asked him who is he? He replied that he is Peter from Canada. I never knew any such guy during my whole life, so I asked him what's the matter. He asked me whether I know about crypto and would like to earn some bitcoins? I thought to go ahead with the conversation as I wanted to know if it's a new type of scam or old school again so I said Yes. He asked me to visit https://betxloot.com/, a place where you need to bet some BTC which will convert and show USD instead in the total jackpot, each round seems to be of 2 minutes which starts when at least 2 players place bets each. So, he told me that he is from their support team and he came to know about a flaw that, even though the algorithm of the website chooses a random winner every time, this flaw could fetch him constant wins during each round. He told me that he can't play with his BTC as his addresses and transactions are being monitored by the team as he looked suspicious to them and so, he wants me to play it there on their website and he'll make me a winner every time or every 3-4 rounds. He then asked me to go to the site and give him any player's name I want to choose as a winner, so I gave him and he did what he said exactly, he just made that player a winner of that round.

The catch starts now
After a long story of what I saw and how he tried to convince me, I just asked him to get to the point and let me know what do I need to do. He asked me to make a new account there and deposit BTC0.01 to their site and play, then he'll make me a winner whenever I'll place a bet. I said that I don't have BTC so if you want, you can send me some and I'll bet with yours and we can share 50-50. He started abusing and then just deleted the whole chat history and blocked me as well as deleted the chat too, so unfortunately I couldn't capture the images as it didn't took a second for him to delete everything.

How can it be a scam?
Well, 3 things are for sure:
- He is trying to lure you to play with your money on their site and even if you win, they don't pay you anything and it may prove scam as the website came into existence on 23-11-2019 (check their whois) while we don't have any reviews nor heard about then ever before.
- He is trying to bring players to their website through all this shit he talked in front of me.
- He may not make you a winner and you may lose all of your capital, or he may just show you 3-4 wins and ask you to bet all, you go all in and bang, you're fucked.

Whatever, if you are going to play there, DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK, I'm not recommending you to play there at all and it's not a game for small fishes as minimum bet itself is BTC0.01 /jk
Don't fall for these schemes, especially newbies. I've tried my best to elaborate the situation I faced so that you may not suffer but in the end, it's your mind and your choice so use your brain wisely.

https://deathwing.me/i/7mY8z.png

TBZ winning them great games.


All in all, good find. I wanted to check the website out. All looks good, fancy, flashy animations. But on a deeper check, you can see that everything from the chat to the balances to the game system is just fake. (Just check the chat, that's enough.) No site owner (or an admin) would deliberately kill their site anyway. Never believe in free coins.

The method sounds familiar to me but I cannot remember where I read it first. It is also similar to the way scammers trick random people about winning in a lottery but they have to pay a "fee" first before they can claim their winnings. Whether gambling site or lottery, crypto or fiat, these scammers will always try to exploit the ignorance and the greediness of some gullible people. I'm hoping we see less scammed stories this year  

That one was outstanding. Yeah, while I was checking the website name before posting it here, I just saw many names from Bitcointalk which literally shows that some member of this community only is the owner of that website, else how can anyone randomly contact me and how come we have our lovely Bitcointalk members playing on their website? That owner is using and creating random users on the website with reputed names of Bitcointalk, and is visiting our profiles to check if we've shared our TG here, then he's targeting us all. Don't fall.


Noticed one more thing that even if there are 2 bettors one of whom bets (let's suppose) $78 and the another one bets $250 (which totals it to $328) and the round completes, I've seen the winner of that round getting around $1026.xx, I mean how's that possible? It shows that they're just trying to pull in users to get the deposits, then make them lose and enjoy the free money they'll have.

SCAM! That is all I needed to hear.

Unfortunately stuff like that has been around for a while now. Take a look at this thread and the exact same pattern. Even the site name is similar. The person who contacted you used https://betxloot.com/ and this guy (who might be the same person) used Bitxbet.org

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5091487.0

Wow, literally the same shit, the same pattern and he tried it after a year, wow! However, I've got a surprise for you all, I don't know how but I captured this (forgot actually and while going through my photos, I got this):

https://i.ibb.co/B4cSndt/Screenshot-20200103-144746.jpg

Enjoy this bastard's name, username and bio and I hope he/she will not contact / scam you at any cost. Stay aware, stay safe.

And did you notice a recognized name in the image (in the middle)? Look for TheButterZone (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60600). This is a forum username who is Legendary here. I bet the user even do not know that his name are being used in some random sites.

This is another (There are several common/uncommon strategies that they apply to trap online users especially inexperience users. A very recent try that I faced by one of the scammer or group of scammers is here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214057.msg53492445#msg53492445) and reading this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5171618.0) will help the users to find some other tactics that the scammers commonly use to lure people.) common practice by the scammers. They will create a site especially gambling sites, they will have few common usernames (they basically create this usernames from their admin panel. These are all fake, no real person behind those usernames) known to a community and then they will start advertising their site in that community or will target users of that community by sending personal message (This is what happened with the OP in here) with different offers and such. Our psychology is that when we see familiar names or feel the environment is known to us then we feel comfortable. The scammers take this chance to lure us.

Good thing is that OP seems to have huge bag of experience in the forum, the memory was trained (most of our long memory stored by the subconscious mind) by seeing some of these happened in the past so he knew exactly where the conversation will end. But if this was with an inexperience user then they would see that it worked with a user that they selected so it will work for them too. They would get excited and would fall for the trap. I am sure these scammers do find inexperience online users very often or they would not spend much time in this kind of attempts.

FYI, everything can be removed in TG and scammers actually like TG for this reason. I am in contact with @notoscam to report the recent incident that happened with me but it seems they are very slow. They still have not read my message that was sent day before yesterday.

This is this bot @userinfobot also useful to pull up a users information like ID, which is not changeable but for some reason I found some error when I tried to pull info for the scammer I was targeted.

Well, they seem to have another site just the same, with a different IP, and a temporary name in accordance to the IP's first three digits.
This one lacks SSL (as if that means anything really) and seems older, although I cannot tell if it’s the same , or a shady "original" site in the dark.
 

have you ever participated in some airdrop,... with your telegram? because i am now wondering whether the scammer has bought one of those lists with bitcointalk accounts' social media and other information on it (possibly even KYC that ICOs "buy") and is targeting bitcointalk members specially since the site has known usernames that exist on bitcointalk too.

P.S. it is good to see scammers are trying harder again. it shows people have become more suspicious of scammers not like in the past where they just told you to send them money without any site or anything else!

Stedsm, this is nothing new, is actually a very old method that was once used by e-mails, and today scammers use social networks like Telegram, Facebook or Twitter. Unfortunately, there are a lot of naive people being fooled this way, which just shows how dangerous social networks are and that they should be used with great caution.

I stop using Telegram, never used FB, and Twitter is something I use very rarely. It's not because I'm afraid someone will cheat on me, there are simply too many scammers who send messages every day that it becomes quite disturbing. The best way to answer them is to report to a competent abuse service, which is not a permanent solution, but still makes it a little difficult for them to do their dirty work.

Almost fall to that one but I have seen warning here in Bitcointalk, it's not really new we have threads like this in the scam section, that is why some telegram channels and groups always make a pinned post that they are not going to be the one to message people, I'm still using Telegram but I do not waste time on these people, because they have been exposed, some of them even act like newbies asking newbie question to get your trust.