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Title: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Wh00re on January 03, 2020, 05:09:29 PM
If you've been following the latest crypto news, you'll have noticed all the exchange hacks as of lately, especially in Q4 2019, we've seen some pretty brutal hacks.

It made me wonder, if 2020 truly is the YEAR of DEX's? Most decentralized exchanges today, is hardly used, but they are constantly being worked on, and made easier for the average guy to use.

Blocknet caught my attention lately, and their website: https://blockdx.com/ made me believe for the first time in a long time, that it's the future.

Anyone else feeling the same? Sure a DEX doesn't have FIAT on/off ramps, but you don't really need it, when you can trade your coins for stable coins, and use them all over the world basically.

Which DEX's do you guys recommend me to look into, and why? Not interested in: Binance, Waves, IDEX, Bisq, etc.. They aren't truly decentralized sadly, though I'm sure they are working to make them 100% decentralized.

Happy new year to everyone! :)


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: 100bitcoin on January 03, 2020, 05:11:39 PM
Which DEX's do you guys recommend me to look into, and why? Not interested in: Binance, Waves, IDEX, Bisq, etc.. They aren't truly decentralized sadly, though I'm sure they are working to make them 100% decentralized.


BISQ is the true DEX for Bitcoin. For ERC20 tokens, try ForkDelta.app.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: cabron on January 03, 2020, 05:19:35 PM
Which DEX's do you guys recommend me to look into, and why? Not interested in: Binance, Waves, IDEX, Bisq, etc.. They aren't truly decentralized sadly, though I'm sure they are working to make them 100% decentralized.


BISQ is the true DEX for Bitcoin. For ERC20 tokens, try ForkDelta.app.

Forkdelta isn't a decentralized exchange. They already change the meaning of decentralize, it now means it can stand without a website to deface nor an owner who can change things on it that he will one day do a mandatory KYC for all that has to withdraw ETH.  Blocknet seem to have solve it for them, this is how they solve the centralized exchanges. If you were to try right now,  you would install the blockdx.com so you can use it in the future.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: 100bitcoin on January 03, 2020, 05:28:12 PM
Which DEX's do you guys recommend me to look into, and why? Not interested in: Binance, Waves, IDEX, Bisq, etc.. They aren't truly decentralized sadly, though I'm sure they are working to make them 100% decentralized.


BISQ is the true DEX for Bitcoin. For ERC20 tokens, try ForkDelta.app.

Forkdelta isn't a decentralized exchange. They already change the meaning of decentralize, it now means it can stand without a website to deface nor an owner who can change things on it that he will one day do a mandatory KYC for all that has to withdraw ETH.  Blocknet seem to have solve it for them, this is how they solve the centralized exchanges. If you were to try right now,  you would install the blockdx.com so you can use it in the future.

Who is deciding listing on BlockDX? Can I trade HEX over there? It is not listed on https://blockdx.com/listings/


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Darooghe on January 03, 2020, 05:59:20 PM
On the one hand, centralized Exchanges provide higher liquidity and a greater volume of trade. On the other hand, decentralized exchanges only provide the possibility of trading, without storing private information about users. Centralized cryptocurrency exchanges are being managed by one central body and have convenient interface but decentralized exchanges use blockchain technology and have inconvenient interface. Though centralized exchange model has disadvantages still it has some important advantages. Thereby, I think we have a long path to DEX adoption.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Mighty_crypt on January 03, 2020, 06:02:55 PM
All available dexs have problems and are not perfect yet if we compare to centralized exchanges, if this can change then many will move to DEX for sure, many dex users complains of bugs and confusing trading interface


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: bigcash2011 on January 03, 2020, 06:08:56 PM
Personally i do not see such a smooth run for dexes, i am more in for atomic swaps and instant exchanges kind of platform, this kind of titles were seen at the end of 2018 as well but we have seen that dexes have not been able to get the required adoption in 2019, i may be wrong but in my opinion people just fo not like to use Dexes that is why they opt for centralized exchanges with easy to use options and attractive interface.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Winscosinally on January 03, 2020, 06:11:43 PM
Exchanges that offers insta swaps are better, e.g changelly and shapeshift, dex exchanges are still far from perfect and currently they are plague with lack of volumes, the only successful thing about DEX is better security


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Thomas-s on January 03, 2020, 06:32:51 PM
I do not see anything wrong with centralized exchanges at the moment. decentralized exchanges are generally not suitable for trading. they are effective for some one-time use, just to connect and sell or buy some coins. they have very small volumes. it’s better not to study decentralized exchanges, but to properly protect your assets


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Samayuki on January 03, 2020, 06:36:06 PM
For traders dex exchanges are worse, for p2p trading there is always volume issues, i think centralized exchanges will remain the best for years to come, i don't see how dex issue will get fixed any time soon.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Leonardo7 on January 03, 2020, 07:10:07 PM
Dex is usually too low on liquidity, this is one major setback in DEx, more so some DeX just makes things to be over complicated for noobs, they should be as simple as possible. Some persons find it difficult to use Idex, Folkdelta, and likes. Dex should be like I connect my private wallet, and see orders on market and just trade, while executed trades just automatically enter my private wallet without necessarily making withdrawals as Ddex has this function in some part save ETH needs to be unwrapped. I prefer DEX to centralized exchanges that will wake up one day and steal all your fund and run away.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: timmmers on January 03, 2020, 08:41:15 PM
I believe that finally DEX will show us the power. Look, we already have thousands of centralized exchanges, but a lot of them are not to be trusted. And also there is a problem with regulations and FATF organisation. They will push every exchange to require KYC from every customer, this will be devastating for many exchanges.

And for better adoption, we need to solve how to trade multiple types of cryptocurrencies on the decentralized exchanges.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Nadziratel on January 03, 2020, 08:48:09 PM
If you've been following the latest crypto news, you'll have noticed all the exchange hacks as of lately, especially in Q4 2019, we've seen some pretty brutal hacks.

It made me wonder, if 2020 truly is the YEAR of DEX's? Most decentralized exchanges today, is hardly used, but they are constantly being worked on, and made easier for the average guy to use.

Blocknet caught my attention lately, and their website: https://blockdx.com/ made me believe for the first time in a long time, that it's the future.

Anyone else feeling the same? Sure a DEX doesn't have FIAT on/off ramps, but you don't really need it, when you can trade your coins for stable coins, and use them all over the world basically.

Which DEX's do you guys recommend me to look into, and why? Not interested in: Binance, Waves, IDEX, Bisq, etc.. They aren't truly decentralized sadly, though I'm sure they are working to make them 100% decentralized.

Happy new year to everyone! :)

We don't have complete decentralized multi-coin exchange yet. Bisq is good one but it is not enough. We need a more comprehensive exchange. DEXs should be both reliable and at least as good as CEXs. And today, unfortunately, most of the exchanges named DEX are far from being DEX. Binance DEX is one of the best examples of this.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: electronicash on January 03, 2020, 09:03:12 PM

a DEX would just be used if there will be a volume to it. there are plenty of these DEX starting from bitshares, WAVES paltform, etherdelta, blockdxn and to the latest we have today but all these would just be useless if we still can't find ways to pile a volume for DEX. we are all here in the forum spreading more information that its best to use dex if concern of safer funds but there are still more traders on CEX.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Nadziratel on January 03, 2020, 09:09:44 PM

a DEX would just be used if there will be a volume to it. there are plenty of these DEX starting from bitshares, WAVES paltform, etherdelta, blockdxn and to the latest we have today but all these would just be useless if we still can't find ways to pile a volume for DEX. we are all here in the forum spreading more information that its best to use dex if concern of safer funds but there are still more traders on CEX.


There are too many projects claiming to be DEX. Some of these are what you say ... But if there was already a really big DEX, the volume would have gathered somewhere.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: EdenDice on January 03, 2020, 09:27:30 PM
I don't think people will come to the decentralized exchange. Exchange hacking is not a new issue, every year some of the major exchange gets hack! From Poloniex to Binance, Bithumb every year! But yet Decentralized exchange even has no such adoption or popularity. IDEX keeps migrating into Centralized, Bancor seems dead, Frokdelta seems going to shut down anytime! How can you hope by only one true decentralized, the Blocknet exchange? I have no hope for DEX in this year.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on January 03, 2020, 09:47:14 PM
All available dexs have problems and are not perfect yet if we compare to centralized exchanges, if this can change then many will move to DEX for sure, many dex users complains of bugs and confusing trading interface
Mainly trade volume problem, people rarely put their money into dex and god knows why that's why most of DEX are lacking the users and can't develop to compete with centralized ones while those centralized exchange are having tremendous profit generated from fee alone. Other problem is kinda irrelevant if our main problem to dex is lacking users which hardly solved. Maybe, people are afraid or doesn't have clue to use dex.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: knuckey on January 04, 2020, 10:19:58 AM
Indeed some DEX is available, but so far the centralized exchange remains a favorite of all trader. DEX conditions are quiet from trader, making trading volume low and sometimes buy and sell orders are not available, therefore centralized exchange is preferred.

In the case of hacking exchanges, I think it has happened since the beginning and hacking also occurs in any field, not just crypto. So if you are a trader, then don't keep assets too long in exchange, after trading and making a profit, then pull back assets into a personal wallet.

I hope that in the future DEX will be created in accordance with expectations and become a better choice than a centralized exchange.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Kvalentine on January 04, 2020, 10:31:25 AM
Lack of liquidity and good volume is what is pulling DEX back all this while, the only good thing DEX fixed is total security, no fund will ever be lost because it's total P2P trading platform


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: mcnocon2 on January 04, 2020, 10:49:30 AM
Despite of the hacks on cetralized exchanges I still go with them, cause they are the one providing real liquidity for traders. But if some Decentralized exchanges will gdt liquidity same as centralized exchanges then I will use Dex. People will also adopt on using DEX if they see the real purpose it.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Byakuga on January 04, 2020, 12:25:20 PM
I refuse to accept OP's points because DEx are not as good as centralized exchanges are, great volumes, better liquidity and good clean interface, many will still choose centralized exchanges over dex


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Gotumoot on January 04, 2020, 12:34:58 PM
Exchanges that offers insta swaps are better, e.g changelly and shapeshift, dex exchanges are still far from perfect and currently they are plague with lack of volumes, the only successful thing about DEX is better security
Ofcourse DEX is good for security hackers are smart also if they can't hack DEX (Decentralised Exchange) Hackers will attack users or investor thru phising link thats is easy to create and easy to copy all dex exchanges website face.  And this is hard for us to find the legit one especially if we are in hurry.  So the only thing we can do is to save Dex website link,  or bookmarked this.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Wh00re on January 06, 2020, 07:05:05 PM
I refuse to accept OP's points because DEx are not as good as centralized exchanges are, great volumes, better liquidity and good clean interface, many will still choose centralized exchanges over dex

That's true, right now, however I'm sure once we see better DEX platforms on the market, that more and more people will start to adopt them. The thing is, right now it's way too complicated, and the liquidity is low. Once you can trade inside your own multi currency wallet (Blocknet is soon releasing this), it will become way more accessible, and easy to transact from peer 2 peer.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: tenakha on January 07, 2020, 12:21:47 AM
if 2020 truly is the YEAR of DEX's? Most decentralized exchanges today, is hardly used, but they are constantly being worked on, and made easier for the average guy to use.
I do not think hacking will help DEXes become more attractive. If so, the community would have switched to DEXes a long time ago. Check out the list, how many DEX are in top 10? The ranking will not change this year as well.

Blocknet caught my attention lately, and their website: https://blockdx.com/ made me believe for the first time in a long time, that it's the future.

Anyone else feeling the same? Sure a DEX doesn't have FIAT on/off ramps, but you don't really need it, when you can trade your coins for stable coins, and use them all over the world basically.
Check out this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211372


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: asriloni on January 07, 2020, 02:23:12 AM
I refuse to accept OP's points because DEx are not as good as centralized exchanges are, great volumes, better liquidity and good clean interface, many will still choose centralized exchanges over dex
that's true and so many times DEX has already created by various entities but as the result of the dex are still getting low demand compared with when we are seeing CEX. So many advantages that already offered by CEX is still superior compared with the advantages that already offered by the DEX. I guess the dex can be an alternative but it will not replace CEX at all.
People will be more careful with the liquidity rather than the security.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: oktana on January 07, 2020, 02:52:12 AM
I refuse to accept OP's points because DEx are not as good as centralized exchanges are, great volumes, better liquidity and good clean interface, many will still choose centralized exchanges over dex
that's true and so many times DEX has already created by various entities but as the result of the dex are still getting low demand compared with when we are seeing CEX. So many advantages that already offered by CEX is still superior compared with the advantages that already offered by the DEX. I guess the dex can be an alternative but it will not replace CEX at all.
People will be more careful with the liquidity rather than the security.
dex has advantages, but the packaging still looks old.

if there are indeed developments and new options offered, still 1:7 with cex. the thing I predict next is in the end all dex will use kyc like idex and can't avoid it. Current users prioritize liquidity, asset security / accountability, and how the system works profitably packaged on one platform.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: mamahdedeh on January 07, 2020, 02:54:21 AM
Exchanges that offers insta swaps are better, e.g changelly and shapeshift, dex exchanges are still far from perfect and currently they are plague with lack of volumes, the only successful thing about DEX is better security
Ofcourse DEX is good for security hackers are smart also if they can't hack DEX (Decentralised Exchange) Hackers will attack users or investor thru phising link thats is easy to create and easy to copy all dex exchanges website face.  And this is hard for us to find the legit one especially if we are in hurry.  So the only thing we can do is to save Dex website link,  or bookmarked this.
right, habits of error in individuals. many are less thorough when logging into the real web. besides that many unclear emails tell us to follow his direction by offering attractive prizes. therefore we must take care of ourselves



Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: tranduong123 on January 07, 2020, 03:01:45 AM
Interest in DEXs is increasing but not significantly, a lot of newly developed exchanges are CEX, and even the big guys are not interested in their DEXs. The reality is that CEXs have more products, features, and ease of use than DEXs.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: rahmathidayat93 on January 07, 2020, 04:12:37 AM
Interest in DEXs is increasing but not significantly, a lot of newly developed exchanges are CEX, and even the big guys are not interested in their DEXs. The reality is that CEXs have more products, features, and ease of use than DEXs.
If I already know about DEX, but for CEX I don't know it myself, can you give an explanation of what is CEX? because the DEX is also easier to use, although the features are not very complete.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 07, 2020, 04:13:26 AM
Even I have tried a lot of these DEX sites, including BISQ for Bitcoin and Etherdelta/Forkdelta for the ERC-20 tokens. But the main problem with these exchanges is the lack of liquidity. And almost all the users consider DEX platforms such as Etherdelta as a dumping ground, and therefore the exchange rates are much lower than what we have in the normal exchanges. The only advantage is that they don't freeze your accounts and ask for KYC information, such as scanned copy of passport or national ID.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: South Park on January 10, 2020, 07:42:10 PM
On the one hand, centralized Exchanges provide higher liquidity and a greater volume of trade. On the other hand, decentralized exchanges only provide the possibility of trading, without storing private information about users. Centralized cryptocurrency exchanges are being managed by one central body and have convenient interface but decentralized exchanges use blockchain technology and have inconvenient interface. Though centralized exchange model has disadvantages still it has some important advantages. Thereby, I think we have a long path to DEX adoption.
I think the main thing that we are missing is that there is still not a clear winner about which model we're going to follow when it comes to decentralized exchanges, there is not a bitcoin equivalent, and that is definitely a problem because people do not really know if the exchange in which they are trading that they believe is decentralized is actually completely decentralized and this is creating confusion, and that is never a good thing especially for a service that is not really popular right now.


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: electronicash on January 10, 2020, 08:15:11 PM

a DEX would just be used if there will be a volume to it. there are plenty of these DEX starting from bitshares, WAVES paltform, etherdelta, blockdxn and to the latest we have today but all these would just be useless if we still can't find ways to pile a volume for DEX. we are all here in the forum spreading more information that its best to use dex if concern of safer funds but there are still more traders on CEX.


There are too many projects claiming to be DEX. Some of these are what you say ... But if there was already a really big DEX, the volume would have gathered somewhere.

there isn't really a real dex as they said. as long as there is someone creating it then its not a dex. even blockdxn isn't a dex since there is someone controlling who will add coins to it and develops it. something like this will have you questioning which is real dex.  not i'm not sure if the market is really meant o be decentralize but a coin could possibly be.



Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: Chuky92 on March 03, 2020, 08:38:24 PM
If one needs high security of private information this is where Dex comes to play but apart from that they have a long way to come, that is just the reality. Ask most people why they trade on centralized exchanges the first thing they will say is high volume which is found wanting in Dex. Another reason they would give for trading on centralized exchanges is that they (centralized exchanges) offer good UI which of course is found wanting in Dex. Am not saying Dex aren't worth it but I think there is a large room for improvement if Dex are to stand up against centralized exchanges. Lastly, I used to like Idex until their recent upgrade, therefore I think Ddex is a good one...


Title: Re: 2020 - The year of true DEX adoption?
Post by: boltz on March 03, 2020, 08:47:36 PM
Will see as this hype of DEX seems to slowly down and I'm not so sure about the DEX adoption anymore and I have some reasons like :

Waves manipulate the price and making a hybrid exchange so its no longer a dex exchange this caused price to pump a little then go down again and it will stay in this area maybe forever.
Blocknet : Gave up on simple masternodes but did a huge update regarding Blocknet Comet so this I can't pronounce yet but price seems to swing a lot lately so its even accumulation or even a whale got angry and he wants out of the game because there are no TRANSACTIONS FEE generate into the network so those with a lot of coins are generating nothing.
Stakenet : Good team , solid project but lately they lack money and financial support and I do hope they will get it.


This are my 3 dex coins so after this conclusions there are only 2 left because waves its a hybrid one already.